Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-04 Devastator size comparison with Superion

Scaling gone mad!

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:
Scaling gone mad!

Yup. Very much. Just like Megs and Soundwave.

I held one of the Constructicons in my hand yesterday. They are freakin' huge!
And imho more like a kid's toy than a collector's figure. Unless you happen to collect really big things, I suppose.

fenrir72 wrote:

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:
Scaling gone mad!

Yup. Very much. Just like Megs and Soundwave.

Am I the only one who thinks that Devastator being bigger than the other combiners is s cool revamp to his character and makes him seem even more awesome?

In the IDW comics they're still the same size there abouts, definitely not a difference in height like that picture.

NuclearConvoy wrote:Am I the only one who thinks that Devastator being bigger than the other combiners is s cool revamp to his character and makes him seem even more awesome?

No. You are not.

NuclearConvoy wrote:Am I the only one who thinks that Devastator being bigger than the other combiners is s cool revamp to his character and makes him seem even more awesome?

You are definitely not the only one, my friend. Devastator is LARGE and IN CHARGE!

Add me to the list of those that likes Devastator much biggen than the rest.

The way I'm having my Combiners displayed is to have Superion vs Menasor and Defensor vs Bruticus. Then on a seperate shelf I'm going to have Devestator embroiled in an epic battle against my Third Party Dinobots.

From Yuki:

Why is metroplex keeping devy straight?

ZeroWolf wrote:Why is metroplex keeping devy straight?

He's restraining a Decepticon prisoner guarded by Optimus, Blossom, that purple-haired girl, and himself.

Syn_13 wrote:Add me to the list of those that likes Devastator much biggen than the rest.

The way I'm having my Combiners displayed is to have Superion vs Menasor and Defensor vs Bruticus. Then on a seperate shelf I'm going to have Devestator embroiled in an epic battle against my Third Party Dinobots.

Me third or fourth this. Given how the real life construction vehicle reference images posted here in the thread, not surprised as all. Did you guys see how a "Scrapper" type vehicle can fit 20+ people in its shovel doohickey? A fighter plane's cockpit can just fit a maximum of 2 in it's cockpit.

Though really, people so uppity about Dev's size but no one complains about how Megs and Soundwave can "mass shift" in the cartoon?

Its fiction guys. A bit of suspended belief is a given when we got into the Transformer mythos.


Now activating "jerk" mode.........hows about anyone complain about the hollow arms of the limbbots in Superion? Or have I been living under a rock and just missed the complaints?

"Jerk mode" off

fenrir72 wrote:

Syn_13 wrote:Add me to the list of those that likes Devastator much biggen than the rest.

The way I'm having my Combiners displayed is to have Superion vs Menasor and Defensor vs Bruticus. Then on a seperate shelf I'm going to have Devestator embroiled in an epic battle against my Third Party Dinobots.

Me third or fourth this. Given how the real life construction vehicle reference images posted here in the thread, not surprised as all. Did you guys see how a "Scrapper" type vehicle can fit 20+ people in its shovel doohickey? A fighter plane's cockpit can just fit a maximum of 2 in it's cockpit.

Though really, people so uppity about Dev's size but no one complains about how Megs and Soundwave can "mass shift" in the cartoon?

Its fiction guys. A bit of suspended belief is a given when we got into the Transformer mythos.


Now activating "jerk" mode.........hows about anyone complain about the hollow arms of the limbbots in Superion? Or have I been living under a rock and just missed the complaints?

"Jerk mode" off

Add me to the list that isn't bothered by Devy's size in relation to the other combiners.
I also agree with your point that scale just can't be that big of a deal for people...
A figure being good in and of itself should completely trump how tall or short it is next to other figures.

I still can't believe that not more people are complaining about the Autobot car figures in this line. Wheeljack imo is by far the best, and actually does compete with the previous version.
I'm glad people are complaining... Just surprised, because those figures are completing underwhelming for me, and I don't feel like I have crazy unrealistic standards.

Will Wheeljack have shoulder/back wings? If not, then sorry, but the other Classics version still wins, hands down.

Agamemnon wrote:Will Wheeljack have shoulder/back wings? If not, then sorry, but the other Classics version still wins, hands down.

That's a good point imo. Those types of details are what make the previous releases of these G1 characters so good.
IF I needed/wanted a G1 Smokescreen in my collection, I wouldn't want him to only be a leg of a combiner...
Yet, as an individual, he's not G1 enough for me in form, color distribution, or details such as the door "wings" and shoulder canons.
I totally get why Hasbro made these new incarnations... It makes sense.
And if it helps the line as a whole, that's cool with me.

Sowndwave76 wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:Will Wheeljack have shoulder/back wings? If not, then sorry, but the other Classics version still wins, hands down.

That's a good point imo. Those types of details are what make the previous releases of these G1 characters so good.
IF I needed/wanted a G1 Smokescreen in my collection, I wouldn't want him to only be a leg of a combiner...
Yet, as an individual, he's not G1 enough for me in form, color distribution, or details such as the door "wings" and shoulder canons.
I totally get why Hasbro made these new incarnations... It makes sense.
And if it helps the line as a whole, that's cool with me.

Yeah. I do like the new figures. I like some of the re-imagining. But, like you say, some of the details that define those characters would be sorely missing. I don't think any of these will replace my Classics versions. But I will still enjoy fiddling with the CW versions when I get them.

Agamemnon wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:Will Wheeljack have shoulder/back wings? If not, then sorry, but the other Classics version still wins, hands down.

That's a good point imo. Those types of details are what make the previous releases of these G1 characters so good.
IF I needed/wanted a G1 Smokescreen in my collection, I wouldn't want him to only be a leg of a combiner...
Yet, as an individual, he's not G1 enough for me in form, color distribution, or details such as the door "wings" and shoulder canons.
I totally get why Hasbro made these new incarnations... It makes sense.
And if it helps the line as a whole, that's cool with me.

Yeah. I do like the new figures. I like some of the re-imagining. But, like you say, some of the details that define those characters would be sorely missing. I don't think any of these will replace my Classics versions. But I will still enjoy fiddling with the CW versions when I get them.

CW Wheeljack is not alone in the "no back wings" department:





To name a few.

Technically then this won't be the first wheeljack to combine either

ZeroWolf wrote:Technically then this won't be the first wheeljack to combine either

If you consider Powerlinking combining

What are the chances of TakaraTomy releasing Sky Reign?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:Will Wheeljack have shoulder/back wings? If not, then sorry, but the other Classics version still wins, hands down.

That's a good point imo. Those types of details are what make the previous releases of these G1 characters so good.
IF I needed/wanted a G1 Smokescreen in my collection, I wouldn't want him to only be a leg of a combiner...
Yet, as an individual, he's not G1 enough for me in form, color distribution, or details such as the door "wings" and shoulder canons.
I totally get why Hasbro made these new incarnations... It makes sense.
And if it helps the line as a whole, that's cool with me.

Yeah. I do like the new figures. I like some of the re-imagining. But, like you say, some of the details that define those characters would be sorely missing. I don't think any of these will replace my Classics versions. But I will still enjoy fiddling with the CW versions when I get them.

CW Wheeljack is not alone in the "no back wings" department:



To name a few.

Oh, indeed, and that Downshift figure was my Classics Wheeljack, and an awesome figure, until Classics/Generations Wheeljack came out.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Technically then this won't be the first wheeljack to combine either

If you consider Powerlinking combining

What are the chances of TakaraTomy releasing Sky Reign?

Pretty high I think, since they are releasing every other full combiner team announced by hasbro so far. Even that Optimus combiner. We still dont know if they will use the white or red torso though.

Oh and having played with Hotspot/Defensor, I am very happy I didn't get the Takara version. The deco and inclusion of groove is obviously a plus, but they aren't repairing that mold, or adding stature and articulation to the combiner. With Defensor being my least favourite, I am glad I at least got him for cheap. With canadian taxes hunting my UW 01 Superion down, I probably ended up paying more than most for it, but that mold is so great that I don't mind.

Are Takara releasing cyclonus? Cause I've not heard anything about him...and he's in the same league as sky lynx being a torso with no set team.

I can see them releasing sky lynx, just not maybe in the unite warriors line

ZeroWolf wrote:Are Takara releasing cyclonus? Cause I've not heard anything about him...and he's in the same league as sky lynx being a torso with no set team.

Sky Lynx has a team of limbs: Smokescreen, Wheeljack, Hound, and Trailbreaker.

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Are Takara releasing cyclonus? Cause I've not heard anything about him...and he's in the same league as sky lynx being a torso with no set team.

Sky Lynx has a team of limbs: Smokescreen, Wheeljack, Hound, and Trailbreaker.

I think he means that they aren't officially combiners by the Japanese perspective. As I don't believe the IDW comics have been translated over there, hence, Takara has no perspective on the fiction, hence, they wouldn't release a character that combines when in the original cartoon, he didn't.

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Are Takara releasing cyclonus? Cause I've not heard anything about him...and he's in the same league as sky lynx being a torso with no set team.

Sky Lynx has a team of limbs: Smokescreen, Wheeljack, Hound, and Trailbreaker.

Yet again:

Smokescreen from Prowl (even keeping the lightbar)
Wheeljack from Breakdown (total reshell)
Hound from Swindle (who's a reshell of Rook)
Trailbreaker from Offroad

I can see TakaraTomy giving Cyclonus the Grand Scourge treatment, turning him into an obscure double homage (just no Galvatron II please) and making him an exclusive.

Madeus Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Are Takara releasing cyclonus? Cause I've not heard anything about him...and he's in the same league as sky lynx being a torso with no set team.

Sky Lynx has a team of limbs: Smokescreen, Wheeljack, Hound, and Trailbreaker.

I think he means that they aren't officially combiners by the Japanese perspective. As I don't believe the IDW comics have been translated over there, hence, Takara has no perspective on the fiction, hence, they wouldn't release a character that combines when in the original cartoon, he didn't.

Takara's releasing Optimus Maximus in Unite Warriors, though.

Madeus Prime wrote:I think he means that they aren't officially combiners by the Japanese perspective. As I don't believe the IDW comics have been translated over there, hence, Takara has no perspective on the fiction, hence, they wouldn't release a character that combines when in the original cartoon, he didn't.

Actually, they are getting the IDW comics in Japan. They're just a little behind us right now. Last I heard, they were in the midst of "All Hail Megatron".

ZeroWolf wrote:Are Takara releasing cyclonus? Cause I've not heard anything about him...and he's in the same league as sky lynx being a torso with no set team.

I can see them releasing sky lynx, just not maybe in the unite warriors line

But Skylynx is getting a team assigned to him in toy form, just as Optimus is, so that is why they would do it. Cyclonus has no assigned team in the Hasbro toyline so I don't think they would release him, unless it's similar to how they released Scourge.

I know, it's just a thing of let's not count our chickens till there hatched. Though if they really wanted to they could release cyclonus vs sky lynx and give him some evil henchmen via repaints

Cobotron wrote:

NuclearConvoy wrote:Am I the only one who thinks that Devastator being bigger than the other combiners is s cool revamp to his character and makes him seem even more awesome?

No. You are not.

Nowhere even close to being alone

Sowndwave76 wrote:

cloneemperor wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

NuclearConvoy wrote:I'm likewise in a position to not settle for second best. I'm thinking of processing an order with Anime Export tonight, but I've never before dealt with them. Are they trustworthy if I am paying upfront like this?

I wish I could say. I've never ordered from them before. Where's Megatronus? He sure has been quiet lately. I think he has some experience with them.

I know I'm nobody to you guys, never really post, just lurk. That being said, I've ordered quite a bit from anime-export and I've never had a problem. I usually go with HLJ just because it means I don't have to pay for it right away, but whenever I go through anime-export, there's never a problem.

Thanks for the heads-up.
What have you purchased from them recently??

I just received Legends Megatron. All well. Ordered MP BB in the winter, all was well with that too.

I got something in the mail today...










Nice to finally have a full Combiner Wars/Unite Warrior style combiner, when until now I've only had a limbless torso (Optimus Prime).

He's a pretty good set of toys! I look forward to writing a review of them.

Edit:

And here's one more photo, Superion in a group shot with modern versions of other '86 (and beyond) toys:

Yotsuyasan wrote:I got something in the mail today...










Nice to finally have a full Combiner Wars/Unite Warrior style combiner, when until now I've only had a limbless torso (Optimus Prime).

He's a pretty good set of toys! I look forward to writing a review of them.

Edit:

And here's one more photo, Superion in a group shot with modern versions of other '86 (and beyond) toys:

Feels good to have one yes? Also, how're the upgrade fist and hands? They blend well?

Congrats Yotsuya on that wonderful haul. I got him too and I am glad I waited. Congrats on your patience!

fenrir72 wrote:Feels good to have one yes?

Yes... It is mine... My own... My precious!

fenrir72 wrote:Also, how're the upgrade fist and hands? They blend well?

I like 'em! (Which is good, since the order I just got in also included a black set eventually destined for Defensor!) As far as blending... I assume you mean colour-wise? I think they look fine.

william-james88 wrote:I got him too and I am glad I waited. Congrats on your patience!

Congrats on your patience, too! I will admit it was a bit tough any time I saw an Aerialbot in the store... but getting the whole team in one shot, with all the members I wanted, and also with (at least in my opinion, which is the most important one for my own purchases) superior decos... and all for not that much more (about $30) then the Hasbro version? Seems like a no brainer to me.

The cost difference for Defensor is going to be a little harder to swallow... But (a) I really want that Groove, and (b) even after you also figure in the cost of the PE hands & feet, he'll still be less than what I had previously been used to paying for third party gestalts. So in the end, it'll still be worth it.

My UW Superion came yesterday, too. Haven't opened it yet since I've been too busy to do so.

Sabrblade wrote:My UW Superion came yesterday, too. Haven't opened it yet since I've been too busy to do so.

Will this be your first taste of the mold? It is fantastic for a torso.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:My UW Superion came yesterday, too. Haven't opened it yet since I've been too busy to do so.

Will this be your first taste of the mold? It is fantastic for a torso.

And kind of cheap too if you removed the shipping cost, waaaaaaaay cheaper. Best of both worlds in fact.

Enjoy him too Sabr!

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:My UW Superion came yesterday, too. Haven't opened it yet since I've been too busy to do so.

Will this be your first taste of the mold? It is fantastic for a torso.

Yes. I ignored the Hasbro Aerialbots (save for Alpha Bravo and Powerglide) in favor of waiting for this version.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:My UW Superion came yesterday, too. Haven't opened it yet since I've been too busy to do so.

Will this be your first taste of the mold? It is fantastic for a torso.

Yes. I ignored the Hasbro Aerialbots (save for Alpha Bravo and Powerglide) in favor of waiting for this version.

You are in for such a treat!

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:My UW Superion came yesterday, too. Haven't opened it yet since I've been too busy to do so.

Will this be your first taste of the mold? It is fantastic for a torso.

Yes. I ignored the Hasbro Aerialbots (save for Alpha Bravo and Powerglide) in favor of waiting for this version.

Are you using AB and Powerglide as stand-alones? Cause they are great toys by themselves, but I love Powerglide as a gun, it works so well!

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:My UW Superion came yesterday, too. Haven't opened it yet since I've been too busy to do so.

Will this be your first taste of the mold? It is fantastic for a torso.

Yes. I ignored the Hasbro Aerialbots (save for Alpha Bravo and Powerglide) in favor of waiting for this version.

Are you using AB and Powerglide as stand-alones? Cause they are great toys by themselves, but I love Powerglide as a gun, it works so well!

I'll use them with the UW Superion as additional members, with Powerglide as a weapon for Superion and Alpha Bravo as a backup member in case any of the main four limbs gets injured and needs to be swapped out.

Hasbro PG is my Superion gattling gun with addition Gundam pen colore paints for added highlights. TAV PG is my 'bot and plane.

From Yuki:

今週末発売予定の新製品もありますが、８月にも大物が待機中！夏休みに直撃する「UW-02 メナゾール」は来月発売予定！

Fellow Seibertronian Cyberpath is still keeping their eyes open on TFYuki's Twitter doings, and reports back with a new image of Takara Tomy Unite Warriors UW-02 Menasor, in combined mode next to its packaging! You can check out the Japanese market version, scheduled for an August release, of the Stunticon combiner in the mirrored image below.

Cant wait for this! Im gonna ship it as soon as Perfect Effects upgrades come in. And hopefully Renderform is almost ready with the guns. I got a nice big butter tub to store all those ugly stock parts and weapons.

IMO only Mötormaster is the reason to buy this. The other Stunticons aren't worth the buck.

Another one, 80s style!

お約束のＧ１リスペクト合体モード！　車まんまな腕が、意外とイイ感じ♪

I'm still really pissed about Menasor's shoulders. They fall apart if you try and move the arms even a little bit. ruins it for me. Defensor has better shoulder locking.

Sideshow Sideswipe wrote:I'm still really pissed about Menasor's shoulders. They fall apart if you try and move the arms even a little bit. ruins it for me. Defensor has better shoulder locking.

I ended up buying 2 Motormasters because of that. First one had that problem thought it was just mine because reviews I saw didn't have that issue(my Optimus doesn't have the issue) and my second Motormaster has the the same problem. It's not a huge gripe for me because his legs and stance are a bigger issue. All in all I like menasor a lot, he's "solid" for the most part.