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News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:33 am

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:
Scaling gone mad!

Yup. Very much. Just like Megs and Soundwave.

by **jay5** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:06 am

I held one of the Constructicons in my hand yesterday. They are freakin' huge!
And imho more like a kid's toy than a collector's figure. Unless you happen to collect really big things, I suppose.

News Credits: 8 · by **NuclearConvoy** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:20 am

fenrir72 wrote:
OptimalOptimus2 wrote:
Scaling gone mad!

Yup. Very much. Just like Megs and Soundwave.

Am I the only one who thinks that Devastator being bigger than the other combiners is s cool revamp to his character and makes him seem even more awesome?

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:36 am

In the IDW comics they're still the same size there abouts, definitely not a difference in height like that picture.

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:01 pm

NuclearConvoy wrote:Am I the only one who thinks that Devastator being bigger than the other combiners is s cool revamp to his character and makes him seem even more awesome?

No. You are not.

News Credits: 65 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:15 pm

NuclearConvoy wrote:Am I the only one who thinks that Devastator being bigger than the other combiners is s cool revamp to his character and makes him seem even more awesome?

You are definitely not the only one, my friend. Devastator is LARGE and IN CHARGE!

by **Syn_13** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:31 pm

Add me to the list of those that likes Devastator much biggen than the rest.

The way I'm having my Combiners displayed is to have Superion vs Menasor and Defensor vs Bruticus. Then on a seperate shelf I'm going to have Devestator embroiled in an epic battle against my Third Party Dinobots.

News Credits: 372 · by **Cyberpath** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:18 am

From Yuki:

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:10 am

Why is metroplex keeping devy straight?

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:44 am

ZeroWolf wrote:Why is metroplex keeping devy straight?

He's restraining a Decepticon prisoner guarded by Optimus, Blossom, that purple-haired girl, and himself.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:52 am

Syn_13 wrote:Add me to the list of those that likes Devastator much biggen than the rest.

The way I'm having my Combiners displayed is to have Superion vs Menasor and Defensor vs Bruticus. Then on a seperate shelf I'm going to have Devestator embroiled in an epic battle against my Third Party Dinobots.

Me third or fourth this. Given how the real life construction vehicle reference images posted here in the thread, not surprised as all. Did you guys see how a "Scrapper" type vehicle can fit 20+ people in its shovel doohickey? A fighter plane's cockpit can just fit a maximum of 2 in it's cockpit.

Though really, people so uppity about Dev's size but no one complains about how Megs and Soundwave can "mass shift" in the cartoon?

Its fiction guys. A bit of suspended belief is a given when we got into the Transformer mythos.

Now activating "jerk" mode.........hows about anyone complain about the hollow arms of the limbbots in Superion? Or have I been living under a rock and just missed the complaints?

"Jerk mode" off 8-}

News Credits: 9 · by **Sowndwave76** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:28 pm

fenrir72 wrote:
Syn_13 wrote:Add me to the list of those that likes Devastator much biggen than the rest.

The way I'm having my Combiners displayed is to have Superion vs Menasor and Defensor vs Bruticus. Then on a seperate shelf I'm going to have Devestator embroiled in an epic battle against my Third Party Dinobots.

Me third or fourth this. Given how the real life construction vehicle reference images posted here in the thread, not surprised as all. Did you guys see how a "Scrapper" type vehicle can fit 20+ people in its shovel doohickey? A fighter plane's cockpit can just fit a maximum of 2 in it's cockpit.

Though really, people so uppity about Dev's size but no one complains about how Megs and Soundwave can "mass shift" in the cartoon?

Its fiction guys. A bit of suspended belief is a given when we got into the Transformer mythos.

Now activating "jerk" mode.........hows about anyone complain about the hollow arms of the limbbots in Superion? Or have I been living under a rock and just missed the complaints?

"Jerk mode" off

Add me to the list that isn't bothered by Devy's size in relation to the other combiners.
I also agree with your point that scale just can't be that big of a deal for people...
A figure being good in and of itself should completely trump how tall or short it is next to other figures.

I still can't believe that not more people are complaining about the Autobot car figures in this line. Wheeljack imo is by far the best, and actually does compete with the previous version.
I'm glad people are complaining... Just surprised, because those figures are completing underwhelming for me, and I don't feel like I have crazy unrealistic standards.

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:31 pm

Will Wheeljack have shoulder/back wings? If not, then sorry, but the other Classics version still wins, hands down.

News Credits: 9 · by **Sowndwave76** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:51 pm

Agamemnon wrote:Will Wheeljack have shoulder/back wings? If not, then sorry, but the other Classics version still wins, hands down.

That's a good point imo. Those types of details are what make the previous releases of these G1 characters so good.
IF I needed/wanted a G1 Smokescreen in my collection, I wouldn't want him to only be a leg of a combiner...
Yet, as an individual, he's not G1 enough for me in form, color distribution, or details such as the door "wings" and shoulder canons.
I totally get why Hasbro made these new incarnations... It makes sense.
And if it helps the line as a whole, that's cool with me.

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:57 pm

Sowndwave76 wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:Will Wheeljack have shoulder/back wings? If not, then sorry, but the other Classics version still wins, hands down.

That's a good point imo. Those types of details are what make the previous releases of these G1 characters so good.
IF I needed/wanted a G1 Smokescreen in my collection, I wouldn't want him to only be a leg of a combiner...
Yet, as an individual, he's not G1 enough for me in form, color distribution, or details such as the door "wings" and shoulder canons.
I totally get why Hasbro made these new incarnations... It makes sense.
And if it helps the line as a whole, that's cool with me.

Yeah. I do like the new figures. I like some of the re-imagining. But, like you say, some of the details that define those characters would be sorely missing. I don't think any of these will replace my Classics versions. But I will still enjoy fiddling with the CW versions when I get them.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:20 am

Agamemnon wrote:
Sowndwave76 wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:Will Wheeljack have shoulder/back wings? If not, then sorry, but the other Classics version still wins, hands down.

That's a good point imo. Those types of details are what make the previous releases of these G1 characters so good.
IF I needed/wanted a G1 Smokescreen in my collection, I wouldn't want him to only be a leg of a combiner...
Yet, as an individual, he's not G1 enough for me in form, color distribution, or details such as the door "wings" and shoulder canons.
I totally get why Hasbro made these new incarnations... It makes sense.
And if it helps the line as a whole, that's cool with me.

Yeah. I do like the new figures. I like some of the re-imagining. But, like you say, some of the details that define those characters would be sorely missing. I don't think any of these will replace my Classics versions. But I will still enjoy fiddling with the CW versions when I get them.

CW Wheeljack is not alone in the "no back wings" department:

To name a few. ;;)

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:14 am

Technically then this won't be the first wheeljack to combine either

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:20 am

ZeroWolf wrote:Technically then this won't be the first wheeljack to combine either

If you consider Powerlinking combining

What are the chances of TakaraTomy releasing Sky Reign?

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:41 am

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:
Sowndwave76 wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:Will Wheeljack have shoulder/back wings? If not, then sorry, but the other Classics version still wins, hands down.

That's a good point imo. Those types of details are what make the previous releases of these G1 characters so good.
IF I needed/wanted a G1 Smokescreen in my collection, I wouldn't want him to only be a leg of a combiner...
Yet, as an individual, he's not G1 enough for me in form, color distribution, or details such as the door "wings" and shoulder canons.
I totally get why Hasbro made these new incarnations... It makes sense.
And if it helps the line as a whole, that's cool with me.

Yeah. I do like the new figures. I like some of the re-imagining. But, like you say, some of the details that define those characters would be sorely missing. I don't think any of these will replace my Classics versions. But I will still enjoy fiddling with the CW versions when I get them.

CW Wheeljack is not alone in the "no back wings" department:

To name a few.

Oh, indeed, and that Downshift figure was my Classics Wheeljack, and an awesome figure, until Classics/Generations Wheeljack came out.

News Credits: 4525 · by **william-james88** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:09 am

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Technically then this won't be the first wheeljack to combine either

If you consider Powerlinking combining

What are the chances of TakaraTomy releasing Sky Reign?

Pretty high I think, since they are releasing every other full combiner team announced by hasbro so far. Even that Optimus combiner. We still dont know if they will use the white or red torso though.

Oh and having played with Hotspot/Defensor, I am very happy I didn't get the Takara version. The deco and inclusion of groove is obviously a plus, but they aren't repairing that mold, or adding stature and articulation to the combiner. With Defensor being my least favourite, I am glad I at least got him for cheap. With canadian taxes hunting my UW 01 Superion down, I probably ended up paying more than most for it, but that mold is so great that I don't mind.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:13 am

Are Takara releasing cyclonus? Cause I've not heard anything about him...and he's in the same league as sky lynx being a torso with no set team.

I can see them releasing sky lynx, just not maybe in the unite warriors line

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:15 am

ZeroWolf wrote:Are Takara releasing cyclonus? Cause I've not heard anything about him...and he's in the same league as sky lynx being a torso with no set team.

Sky Lynx has a team of limbs: Smokescreen, Wheeljack, Hound, and Trailbreaker.

News Credits: 23 · by **Madeus Prime** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:20 am

Sabrblade wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Are Takara releasing cyclonus? Cause I've not heard anything about him...and he's in the same league as sky lynx being a torso with no set team.
Sky Lynx has a team of limbs: Smokescreen, Wheeljack, Hound, and Trailbreaker.

I think he means that they aren't officially combiners by the Japanese perspective. As I don't believe the IDW comics have been translated over there, hence, Takara has no perspective on the fiction, hence, they wouldn't release a character that combines when in the original cartoon, he didn't.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:21 am

Sabrblade wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Are Takara releasing cyclonus? Cause I've not heard anything about him...and he's in the same league as sky lynx being a torso with no set team.
Sky Lynx has a team of limbs: Smokescreen, Wheeljack, Hound, and Trailbreaker.

Yet again:

Smokescreen from Prowl (even keeping the lightbar)
Wheeljack from Breakdown (total reshell)
Hound from Swindle (who's a reshell of Rook)
Trailbreaker from Offroad

I can see TakaraTomy giving Cyclonus the Grand Scourge treatment, turning him into an obscure double homage (just no Galvatron II please) and making him an exclusive.

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:23 am

Madeus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Are Takara releasing cyclonus? Cause I've not heard anything about him...and he's in the same league as sky lynx being a torso with no set team.
Sky Lynx has a team of limbs: Smokescreen, Wheeljack, Hound, and Trailbreaker.

I think he means that they aren't officially combiners by the Japanese perspective. As I don't believe the IDW comics have been translated over there, hence, Takara has no perspective on the fiction, hence, they wouldn't release a character that combines when in the original cartoon, he didn't.

Takara's releasing Optimus Maximus in Unite Warriors, though.