Video Review - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Sky Lynx
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Posted by Bradimus on January 25th, 2016 @ 8:14am CST
Posted by william-james88 on January 25th, 2016 @ 8:52am CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:The dragstrip mold, as an arm, has almost no articulation at the shoulder as the shoulder chunk gets obstructed by the kibble on the menasor/o/p mold and hotspot/onslaught mold thus making it a very poor arm mode
What you see as a problem with dragstrip, I instead see as a problem with the Menasor and Defensor/Bruticus torso.
Posted by Agamemnon on January 25th, 2016 @ 9:06am CST
Joe-Prime77 wrote:So since you own both have you tried swapping hip joints? or are the molds slightly different to not allow a hip replacement?
I haven't as yet. I prefer BC Prime with the good hips and don't intend to ever combine OP, so the hips are good in that fashion. I don't see why it wouldn't work, though.
Posted by Joe-Prime77 on January 25th, 2016 @ 9:10am CST
Posted by Va'al on January 25th, 2016 @ 9:11am CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 25th, 2016 @ 9:55am CST
Posted by Bradimus on January 25th, 2016 @ 11:45am CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 25th, 2016 @ 11:49am CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:The dragstrip mold, as an arm, has almost no articulation at the shoulder as the shoulder chunk gets obstructed by the kibble on the menasor/o/p mold and hotspot/onslaught mold thus making it a very poor arm mode
Really? I have no issue with him as an arm hindering shoulder movement...maybe we transform him differently in arm mode?
And Sky Lynx as an individual is cool but not totally wow, but combined mode HOLY SCRAP THAT THING IS BEAUTIFUL!!!!
Posted by RiddlerJ on January 25th, 2016 @ 11:59am CST
Posted by Dr. Caelus on January 25th, 2016 @ 12:08pm CST
Posted by Bradimus on January 25th, 2016 @ 12:13pm CST
Caelus wrote:I'd really like to see Sky Reign scrambled differently. Maybe with Mirage, Prowl, or Ironhide in the mix. I'm used to asymmetric colors on combiners, but there should be some colors shared back and forth, and there's really nothing there that ties Trailbreaker and Hound in with the rest of the team, and given that it looks like a good bit of Sky Reign's stability issues come from Hound being especially heavy compared to the others, I don't see much point in using him there.
Sky Reign's floppiness is due to the shoulders not locking into place and the hip ratchets being useless. According the video. Changing the limbs isn't going to solve those problems.
Posted by Generator_G1 on January 25th, 2016 @ 12:20pm CST
Replace Groove with Wreckgar and Skyreign gets a yellow-orange crotch. Lol.
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Posted by Carnivius_Prime on January 25th, 2016 @ 12:22pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on January 25th, 2016 @ 12:26pm CST
Carnivius_Prime wrote: That was part of the fun of the original toy.
Along with it being huge!
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 25th, 2016 @ 12:31pm CST
Generator_G1 wrote:This is the best look that I can do adding Groove to Skyreign. Groove essentially hangs on to the side of the torso but with no dedicated pegs to hang on to, he will fall out at the slightest movement.
Replace Groove with Wreckgar and Skyreign gets a yellow-orange crotch. Lol.
Anyway to attach him to the back somehow?
Posted by Generator_G1 on January 25th, 2016 @ 12:39pm CST
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Generator_G1 wrote:This is the best look that I can do adding Groove to Skyreign. Groove essentially hangs on to the side of the torso but with no dedicated pegs to hang on to, he will fall out at the slightest movement.
Replace Groove with Wreckgar and Skyreign gets a yellow-orange crotch. Lol.
Anyway to attach him to the back somehow?
Nothing to hang on the back, I'm afraid.
Posted by Spotter5 on January 25th, 2016 @ 12:41pm CST
Posted by Stuartmaximus on January 25th, 2016 @ 12:43pm CST
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Still undecided. The torso mode didn't interest me other than having a Lynx head that could be used in a fan-mode Lynx form (and the torso mode seems quite useless to those who did want to use it if it's that unstable). If I see it in Toys R Us in the UK I may pick it up, moreso if in a sale. Like others I really would have preferred a seperate Lynx mode. That was part of the fun of the original toy.
christ! we'll have a wait til it comes to the UK won't we?(in physical stores) even Kapow have it penned in for Feb/March release.
Posted by Survivefan23 on January 25th, 2016 @ 12:55pm CST
I mean, that's just sick.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 25th, 2016 @ 1:04pm CST
Survivefan23 wrote:I just saw photos of this guy who owns him where he took Legion Groove and had him in Sky Lynx in torso mode and attached him to the most uncomfortable & inappropriate place, his crotch. He says that Groove will fall off with a little jingle.
I mean, that's just sick.
Yeah, considering we have seen nary an official picture of them combined (like all the others) and the fact that those who do have him cannot seem to combine him, I'm pretty sure hasbro straight up lied to us about wreck gar combining with sky reign in order to get us to buy yet another wasted repaint.
And I agree, that is a very jaded reviewer
Also, very sad to here that hasbro skimped on the designing of Sky Reign too, the amount of respect that I have for them is now approaching negative numbers
Posted by Generator_G1 on January 25th, 2016 @ 1:10pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:Survivefan23 wrote:I just saw photos of this guy who owns him where he took Legion Groove and had him in Sky Lynx in torso mode and attached him to the most uncomfortable & inappropriate place, his crotch. He says that Groove will fall off with a little jingle.
I mean, that's just sick.
Yeah, considering we have seen nary an official picture of them combined (like all the others) and the fact that those who do have him cannot seem to combine him, I'm pretty sure hasbro straight up lied to us about wreck gar combining with sky reign in order to get us to buy yet another wasted repaint.
And I agree, that is a very jaded reviewer
Also, very sad to here that hasbro skimped on the designing of Sky Reign too, the amount of respect that I have for them is now approaching negative numbers
I said jiggle not jingle.
That is the only place that you can put Groove on as far as I can see on the figure.
And I am not that jaded reviewer...haha.
Posted by Doctor McGrath on January 25th, 2016 @ 1:13pm CST
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 25th, 2016 @ 1:14pm CST
Generator_G1 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Survivefan23 wrote:I just saw photos of this guy who owns him where he took Legion Groove and had him in Sky Lynx in torso mode and attached him to the most uncomfortable & inappropriate place, his crotch. He says that Groove will fall off with a little jingle.
I mean, that's just sick.
Yeah, considering we have seen nary an official picture of them combined (like all the others) and the fact that those who do have him cannot seem to combine him, I'm pretty sure hasbro straight up lied to us about wreck gar combining with sky reign in order to get us to buy yet another wasted repaint.
And I agree, that is a very jaded reviewer
Also, very sad to here that hasbro skimped on the designing of Sky Reign too, the amount of respect that I have for them is now approaching negative numbers
I said jiggle not jingle.
That is the only place that you can put Groove on as far as I can see on the figure.
And I am not that jaded reviewer...haha.
No, I was replying to multiple thoughts on the thread without posting multiple times, that was not aimed at you, but maybe keep trying, that peg and hole on grooves legs have got to do something
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 25th, 2016 @ 1:24pm CST
Posted by Dr. Caelus on January 25th, 2016 @ 2:20pm CST
Bradimus wrote:Caelus wrote:I'd really like to see Sky Reign scrambled differently. Maybe with Mirage, Prowl, or Ironhide in the mix. I'm used to asymmetric colors on combiners, but there should be some colors shared back and forth, and there's really nothing there that ties Trailbreaker and Hound in with the rest of the team, and given that it looks like a good bit of Sky Reign's stability issues come from Hound being especially heavy compared to the others, I don't see much point in using him there.
Sky Reign's floppiness is due to the shoulders not locking into place and the hip ratchets being useless. According the video. Changing the limbs isn't going to solve those problems.
Thank you, but did I watch the video, and the reviewer noted that Hound and Wheeljack were substantially heavier than the other two. That's part of the reason why I'd like to see him scrambled differently. Less weight on the arms might help prevent the shoulders from sliding out of place when he's standing in place, and it should drop his center of gravity to reduce torque on his hips.
The shoulders will probably still pop out of place when you deliberately move the arms, of course - just like Menasor and Defensor - so that'll need some clear nail polish or some Construct-Bot parts worked in. Or, I suppose, a person could just grip him by the shoulder instead of by the waist when moving his arm.
Posted by william-james88 on January 25th, 2016 @ 2:36pm CST
Doctor McGrath wrote:Skylynx looks good. I'm still undecided about double dipping so I can have one combined at all times. Not sure I want to buy the aerialbots & white PE kit again to compliment him.
How about you buy one just by himself and you get the Liokaiser set. Like that you have the Skylynx mold as a torso for an homage to an actual existing combiner while not doubling on the same toy
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on January 25th, 2016 @ 2:39pm CST
Posted by gothsaurus on January 25th, 2016 @ 2:41pm CST
Given, I know it's hard to strike a balance between giving an honest review and being an online entertainer. (Not to mention striving not to go overboard brandishing your fan-character/puppet/Waspinator impersonation/cool electronic music/yelling a lot/generally talking forever.) At least it's well lit, in the frame, to the point, and audible.
But I digress... back to the figure.
My opinion — based on seeing the toy and transformation — it seems like it's a home run. Captures BOTH iconic modes seen in cartoon (ie. shuttle and weird dog-leg-bird-thing we have all grown to know and love)... plus it seems like a better scale compared to the awkwardly large G1 toy. It adds combiner mode as bonus, plus the secret puma mode as fourth mode. Lots of win here. I think most of us never separated the two halves of the G1 toy, so losing that isn't too big a deal.
Regarding the packaging... I've noticed the thinner cardboard recently. Since it looks the same visually (ie. for display), packs tighter in storage when collapsed, and uses less trees to make the packaging... I think that's an acceptable place to cut costs. I'd rather see it there than it the figures.... having odd hollow parts, less articulation, or see-through holes like in the wings, etc.
Still, it's a great looking figure. One of the best of the wave, I think.
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on January 25th, 2016 @ 2:45pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on January 25th, 2016 @ 2:47pm CST
SillySpringer wrote:I don't know of it's been posted here before but I found part of a pic of CW Computron on tfw2005:
I guess the rumors were true about him having new feet! Maybe he'll even have ankle tilts! Fingers crossed!
We saw these a long time ago, they are already on this thread and we discussed it. You were part of the discussion too:
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/new-combiner-wars-possible-liokaiser-images-leaked/34506/
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/more-leaked-images-for-transformers-combiner-wars-computron/34508/
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 25th, 2016 @ 2:51pm CST
The foot looks like Victorion's I think. But yeah, we've seen those pics a while ago.
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on January 25th, 2016 @ 2:53pm CST
william-james88 wrote:SillySpringer wrote:I don't know of it's been posted here before but I found part of a pic of CW Computron on tfw2005:
I guess the rumors were true about him having new feet! Maybe he'll even have ankle tilts! Fingers crossed!
We saw these a long time ago, they are already on this thread and we discussed it. You were part of the discussion too:
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/new-combiner-wars-possible-liokaiser-images-leaked/34506/
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/more-leaked-images-for-transformers-combiner-wars-computron/34508/
For heavens sake I already edited it! I realized that and edited the posts but now I already look like an idiot. Oh well, why does Nosecone have a Decepticon symbol I wonder.
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 25th, 2016 @ 2:56pm CST
SillySpringer wrote:william-james88 wrote:SillySpringer wrote:I don't know of it's been posted here before but I found part of a pic of CW Computron on tfw2005:
I guess the rumors were true about him having new feet! Maybe he'll even have ankle tilts! Fingers crossed!
We saw these a long time ago, they are already on this thread and we discussed it. You were part of the discussion too:
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/new-combiner-wars-possible-liokaiser-images-leaked/34506/
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/more-leaked-images-for-transformers-combiner-wars-computron/34508/
For heavens sake I already edited it! I realized that and edited the posts but now I already look like an idiot. Oh well, why does Nosecone have a Decepticon symbol I wonder.
And we already discussed that, too.
Presumably they just used Brawl with a prototype of the new weapon for Nosecone to see how it will look in combined mode.
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on January 25th, 2016 @ 2:58pm CST
WAIT A MINUTE! I just realised something! The drill bit is photoshopped onto Brawl's turret!! This is no official image! It looks like someone took CW Scattorshot and some random limbs and then photoshopped them like the Technobots! We have been fooled!
Posted by william-james88 on January 25th, 2016 @ 3:03pm CST
SillySpringer wrote:
For heavens sake I already edited it! I realized that and edited the posts but now I already look like an idiot. Oh well, why does Nosecone have a Decepticon symbol I wonder.
Because it isnt nosecone. It's just brawl with the accessory attached.
Posted by william-james88 on January 25th, 2016 @ 3:12pm CST
SillySpringer wrote:Just put the teasers together.
Thats been done too. Come on man, when we told you this was already available, why didnt you look into it instead of just posting more?
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on January 25th, 2016 @ 3:17pm CST
william-james88 wrote:SillySpringer wrote:Just put the teasers together.
Thats been done too. Come on man, when we told you this was already available, why didnt you look into it instead of just posting more?
Did anyone else notice that it's photoshopped and fake? Also my memory is horrible right now for some reason so bear with me. I think it's because of the heat.
Posted by william-james88 on January 25th, 2016 @ 3:20pm CST
gothsaurus wrote:plus it seems like a better scale compared to the awkwardly large G1 toy.
I disagree. The whole point of Skylynx being a shuttle is that he is bigger than the others and can carry his friends around.
And added to that, Predaking, the largest combiner, is his nemesis. They are scaled to fight against eachother:
While his scale in G1 is as wonky as any other character, this toy is smaller than most of his scale interpretations. The whole point is that he combines with his two components to battle another combiner. This new toy changes his entire combining and scale aspect. Thats fine for an update that doesnt try to capture the original, but it definitely goes against the original interpretation of this character and his scale.
gothsaurus wrote:Still, it's a great looking figure. One of the best of the wave, I think.
I sure hope so, its the only new mold!
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 25th, 2016 @ 3:23pm CST
SillySpringer wrote:william-james88 wrote:SillySpringer wrote:Just put the teasers together.
Thats been done too. Come on man, when we told you this was already available, why didnt you look into it instead of just posting more?
Did anyone else notice that it's photoshopped and fake? Also my memory is horrible right now for some reason so bear with me. I think it's because of the heat.
He's talking about the composite pic I made of the three parts for one of the news posts regarding computron. And either way, heat does nothing to your ability to remember things, nor does it stop you from searching either the news posts, or this thread for the relevant information
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on January 25th, 2016 @ 3:29pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:
He's talking about the composite pic I made of the three parts for one of the news posts regarding computron. And either way, heat does nothing to your ability to remember things, nor does it stop you from searching either the news posts, or this thread for the relevant information
I am gonna leave the boards for today and hopefully tomorrow I won't be having a stupid day. bye?
Posted by ThunderThruster on January 25th, 2016 @ 4:11pm CST
william-james88 wrote:gothsaurus wrote:plus it seems like a better scale compared to the awkwardly large G1 toy.
I disagree. The whole point of Skylynx being a shuttle is that he is bigger than the others and can carry his friends around.
And added to that, Predaking, the largest combiner, is his nemesis. They are scaled to fight against eachother:
While his scale in G1 is as wonky as any other character, this toy is smaller than most of his scale interpretations. The whole point is that he combines with his two components to battle another combiner. This new toy changes his entire combining and scale aspect. Thats fine for an update that doesnt try to capture the original, but it definitely goes against the original interpretation of this character and his scale.
Only in the cartoon. In the comics, he was never 2 separate pieces, more of a triple changer, and his scale can be even more questioned, when his Lynx mode lands on the back of a trailer-less PM Optimus Prime.
Posted by william-james88 on January 25th, 2016 @ 4:21pm CST
ThunderThruster wrote:
Only in the cartoon. In the comics, he was never 2 separate pieces, more of a triple changer, and his scale can be even more questioned, when his Lynx mode lands on the back of a trailer-less PM Optimus Prime.
The quote I was reponding to was only referring to the cartoon. Also, I will make a bold statement here and say that when fans talk of scale for G1 characters that are present in both media, there is a greater collective priority of achieving the scale found in the G1 cartoon than that found in the G1 comics.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 25th, 2016 @ 4:23pm CST
Posted by dragons on January 25th, 2016 @ 4:34pm CST
Kids combined wars while
Masterpiece figures are aimed at adult collectors that is why combined wars figures little messed up skylynx for example
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on January 25th, 2016 @ 4:44pm CST
dragons wrote:Could have bought generation one skylnxe save money do not buy leader class and voyager class figures use that money to buy generation one skylynx some people forget transformers toys are mad for little
Kids combined wars while
Masterpiece figures are aimed at adult collectors that is why combined wars figures little messed up skylynx for example
*pops in for a brief second* periods and commas help to also convey what you are trying to say in a better way. I personally agree and say that Skylynx looks EXTREMELY cheap, and that they should've done a leader class Skylynx instead. *disappears*
Posted by Stuartmaximus on January 25th, 2016 @ 4:44pm CST
william-james88 wrote:I disagree. The whole point of Skylynx being a shuttle is that he is bigger than the others and can carry his friends around.
he doesn't need to.be huge in order to carry other Transformers around! look at Astrotrain! the Constructicons formed Devastator inside him!(& he's also a shuttle! + smaller!) Silverbolt....a bunch of Autobots managed to cram themselves inside him(jet mode) & Silverbolt is smaller than Sky Lynx, Starscream carried a bunch of humans inside him(more than what the jet he formed would normally carry) & dumped them mid air!(War Dawn).
it's obviously to do with Mass Shifting! in which G1 did a lot.
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on January 25th, 2016 @ 4:46pm CST
Stuartmaximus wrote:william-james88 wrote:I disagree. The whole point of Skylynx being a shuttle is that he is bigger than the others and can carry his friends around.
he doesn't need to.be huge in order to carry other Transformers around! look at Astrotrain! the Constructicons formed Devastator inside him!(& he's also a shuttle! + smaller!) Silverbolt....a bunch of Autobots managed to cram themselves inside him(jet mode) & Silverbolt is smaller than Sky Lynx, Starscream carried a bunch of humans inside him(more than what the jet he formed would normally carry) & dumped them mid air!(War Dawn).
it's obviously to do with Mass Shifting! in which G1 did a lot.
*pops back in again* Sometimes I wish g1 didn't exist so there wouldn't be so many scale issues. *disappears again*
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 25th, 2016 @ 5:42pm CST
SillySpringer wrote:Stuartmaximus wrote:william-james88 wrote:I disagree. The whole point of Skylynx being a shuttle is that he is bigger than the others and can carry his friends around.
he doesn't need to.be huge in order to carry other Transformers around! look at Astrotrain! the Constructicons formed Devastator inside him!(& he's also a shuttle! + smaller!) Silverbolt....a bunch of Autobots managed to cram themselves inside him(jet mode) & Silverbolt is smaller than Sky Lynx, Starscream carried a bunch of humans inside him(more than what the jet he formed would normally carry) & dumped them mid air!(War Dawn).
it's obviously to do with Mass Shifting! in which G1 did a lot.
*pops back in again* Sometimes I wish g1 didn't exist so there wouldn't be so many scale issues. *disappears again*
I think the same sometimes, especially considering the multiple factions there can be within the g1 fanbase like toon only, comic only, toy only etc etc. I respect g1 for starting everything off but I also have more respect for beast wars for doing something new and saving the franchise. I'm trailing off topic here, sorry about that.
If I had the original sky lynx then this update would still be welcomed by me (providing every other factor like available money was sorted)
However I'm not really bothered about owning the original as it's a bit big for my display and storage, space in my house is limited. Only big bot I have on display is Energon Omega Supreme, then next one down is mp grimlock.
I guess what I'm trying to say is thanks hasbro (or takara if they designed it) for making a smaller version of this character to better fit with my collection
Posted by Agregor on January 25th, 2016 @ 6:05pm CST
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Posted by BATTLEMASTER IIC on January 25th, 2016 @ 6:12pm CST