Transformers Combiner Wars: SDCC Devastator On Display
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Posted by TimothyR on June 18th, 2015 @ 10:57pm CDT
I think this is in the wrong section, I believe it was meant for the fisher price display.. Right?
Posted by Bumblevivisector on June 18th, 2015 @ 11:10pm CDT
Course, the only question big enough to match a box of that size is:
Any sign of six extra guns in with him?
Posted by MaverickPrime on June 18th, 2015 @ 11:34pm CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on June 18th, 2015 @ 11:59pm CDT
Posted by phantom1592 on June 19th, 2015 @ 12:20am CDT
fenrir72 wrote:A toy for kids. That's what it is
Aren't we all kids at heart?
Posted by william-james88 on June 19th, 2015 @ 12:21am CDT
MaverickPrime wrote:Are thre images of the individual Constructicons?
Are you ok with stock images instead of in hand pics? Because there are a ton here.
Here<s a quick one of all of them in one frame:
Also, I hope no one hates me too much but I actually do not like the chrome. Since just some of the purple is chrome, it looks kinda weird. I didnt care too much about Leader Jetfire's Chrome because it was optional (you could remove the guns) and all the chromed pieces were the same red pieces, fitting uniformly on the figure. But some people didnt like it, and now I kinda get it because here it totally distracts from the rest of the figure and gives an uneven look. The paint apps are better, sure, but the adding of chrome takes away any G1 show accuracy and instead gives us something that doesnt really jive well all together. Just my opinion and a reason to not have to splurge on this toy.
Also, the headsculpt is not the head I associate with Devastator but thats a personal thing.
Posted by fenrir72 on June 19th, 2015 @ 12:23am CDT
phantom1592 wrote:fenrir72 wrote:A toy for kids. That's what it is
Aren't we all kids at heart?
Oh you know what I mean bro' That Titan size is just what the doctor has ordered to go with my Voyager size G1 figs. It's just some people who just are ostinate about it.
Posted by King Kuuga on June 19th, 2015 @ 2:04am CDT
TimothyR wrote:Hey look.. Green garbage.
I think this is in the wrong section, I believe it was meant for the fisher price display.. Right?
I look at the picture you responded to and I honestly do not see anything meriting that kind of a comment. Yes, CW Devy has flaws, but he's impressively articulated for a figure his size and what problems there are do not subtract from his impressiveness. They especially do not deserve to be hated upon at every turn.
Posted by BlueBefore on June 19th, 2015 @ 3:13am CDT
That Bot wrote:TimothyR wrote:Hey look.. Green garbage.
I think this is in the wrong section, I believe it was meant for the fisher price display.. Right?
I look at the picture you responded to and I honestly do not see anything meriting that kind of a comment. Yes, CW Devy has flaws, but he's impressively articulated for a figure his size and what problems there are do not subtract from his impressiveness. They especially do not deserve to be hated upon at every turn.
Tim is an attention seeker. It's best to ignore him.
Posted by DMSL on June 19th, 2015 @ 3:36am CDT
Posted by MemphisR56 on June 19th, 2015 @ 4:42am CDT
DMSL wrote:He looks really nice. I have noticed that on the stock images the tracks are painted on the outside for Bonecrusher and Scavenger, yet at Botcon ony one has the outer side of the tracks painted green.
Perhaps because scavenger's treads should be purple?
Posted by steals_your_goats on June 19th, 2015 @ 7:26am CDT
DMSL wrote:He looks really nice. I have noticed that on the stock images the tracks are painted on the outside for Bonecrusher and Scavenger, yet at Botcon ony one has the outer side of the tracks painted green.
They are painted but the purple and black is hard to see in the less than favorable lighting.
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 19th, 2015 @ 8:02am CDT
Posted by dragons on June 19th, 2015 @ 8:15am CDT
Bumblevivisector wrote:And with that face on the back, his box doubles as an homage to the Ohmeg Xt'Tapalatakettle head in your basement!
Course, the only question big enough to match a box of that size is:
Any sign of six extra guns in with him?
Sdcc does not have individual guns for six members there are pictures show inside of box
Posted by CrankyOldTruck on June 19th, 2015 @ 8:16am CDT
BlueBefore wrote:That Bot wrote:TimothyR wrote:Hey look.. Green garbage.
I think this is in the wrong section, I believe it was meant for the fisher price display.. Right?
I look at the picture you responded to and I honestly do not see anything meriting that kind of a comment. Yes, CW Devy has flaws, but he's impressively articulated for a figure his size and what problems there are do not subtract from his impressiveness. They especially do not deserve to be hated upon at every turn.
Tim is an attention seeker. It's best to ignore him.
No, it's best to address the fact that a great many of the images that we have seen of this thing do, in all honesty, make the combined figure look like a Fisher Price toy. I hate to say it but right from the start that was the exact impression that I got of this thing too and I still hold to that opinion of it even after all of the pictures that have come out since the initial release of this thing. This behemoth is a straight-up Playskool combiner. It may look different once it's actually in a persons hands but if I have to go by pictures, it will never end up in my hands so I fail to see how you can be so dismissive of his viewpoint since obviously he isn't the only one seeing it. I'm not saying that people shouldn't buy it, that's up to the individual and they have every right. I'm just saying that TimR has a right to his opinion and that he's not the only one who shares it and that your dismissal of him as basically being an "attention whore" is b.s.
Posted by william-james88 on June 19th, 2015 @ 8:52am CDT
This Devy is a play arts Kai Kai figure compared to that Optimus.
Posted by shajaki on June 19th, 2015 @ 9:47am CDT
Posted by Optimizzy on June 19th, 2015 @ 9:52am CDT
I mean, yeah there are flaws, and yeah you can point them out...but POINT THEM OUT. Don't just waste space trashing things. Jeez guys. You aren't cool just by being contrary.
Posted by shajaki on June 19th, 2015 @ 10:05am CDT
Yeah, but unfortunately the INTERNET is in no shortage of hate. Now if only we could harness the power of hate... channel it into energon cubes we vanquish the Autob - whoop... sorry... lost my head for a second thereOptimizzy wrote:you know, I thought this was a forum for fans of transformers.
Posted by Evil Eye on June 19th, 2015 @ 10:13am CDT
A fitting analogy considering how awful Play Arts Kai are.william-james88 wrote:This Devy is a play arts Kai Kai figure compared to that Optimus.
Posted by Jones on June 19th, 2015 @ 10:31am CDT
Optimizzy wrote:you know, I thought this was a forum for fans of transformers. Not for people to trash transformers seemingly without good reason. It's a cool toy. When did this NOT become a toy collector forum?
I mean, yeah there are flaws, and yeah you can point them out...but POINT THEM OUT. Don't just waste space trashing things. Jeez guys. You aren't cool just by being contrary.
Truth.
Too many fans view this whole thing as some kind of zero-sum game. Like if Hasbro makes these for a certain segment of fans, then they are legitimately taking away from the others.
Well, the inconvenient truth is that any time something gets released, there's going to be those who like it, those who don't, and those who are indifferent. Every dog has their day, so just chill & focus on all the things that Hasbro has released that you DO love. Your turn will come again if you vote with your wallet.
Personally? This Devastator will be mine. Oh yes, it will be mine.
Posted by william-james88 on June 19th, 2015 @ 10:33am CDT
Delta Magnus wrote:A fitting analogy considering how awful Play Arts Kai are.william-james88 wrote:This Devy is a play arts Kai Kai figure compared to that Optimus.
I was comparing the articulation mainly. What do you personally find awful about them?
Posted by Spanbauer on June 19th, 2015 @ 10:47am CDT
DMSL wrote:He looks really nice. I have noticed that on the stock images the tracks are painted on the outside for Bonecrusher and Scavenger, yet at Botcon ony one has the outer side of the tracks painted green.
Only the inside of the treads are painted black; if the outsides were also painted black then Bonecrusher and Scavenger would have black legs and that would be both gross and wrong.
Posted by NuclearConvoy on June 19th, 2015 @ 10:51am CDT
Posted by Spanbauer on June 19th, 2015 @ 10:58am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on June 19th, 2015 @ 11:22am CDT
Spanbauer wrote:If the SDCC version was intended to be Devastator in all his "G1 deco, vac metal glory" as they said on the Facebook page, I really wish they'd vac-metalled (chromed) the silver bits instead of the purple bits. That, handguns for the team and purple fists for Devastator would have made the SDCC version perfect.
Woah, if that was indeed their intention, then I would call this a failure. Not a bad deco, but that misses the mark by quite a bit.
Posted by NuclearConvoy on June 19th, 2015 @ 11:27am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on June 19th, 2015 @ 11:48am CDT
NuclearConvoy wrote:At that price, even if I can use my friend's TRU employee discount, it may be more worthwhile to get the Takara version.
I dont understand. Why wouldnt the takara version be even more expensive than this? And have you thought of the import costs when getting it from japan? the shipping will be ridiculous. You can always buy BBTS, but you live in canada right? So let's assume the Takara best case scenario is 200$ US.
Shipping to canada from the states will be 30$ at least. You will be charged 10$ duty and an extra 15% guaranteed tax fee for such a huge purchase/box.
So you would end up paying about 331$ cdn for Takara's instead of about 180$ cdn for the hasbro version at TRU (I am basically cancelling out the taxes with the employee discount). How is this not more worthwhile?
Posted by galvatron00 on June 19th, 2015 @ 12:35pm CDT
Posted by Spanbauer on June 19th, 2015 @ 12:47pm CDT
itscramtastic wrote:I feel like I'm leaning more toward the SDCC version, unless the TT version blows me away on Saturday. I mean, someone can 3D print the guns right? RIGHT?! Also, where's the non-firing missile attachment for SDCC Devastator's head (G1!!)?! Has anyone mentioned that?!
I'd be shocked if a 3rd party didn't offer a set of six blasters, along with anything else a person might want for this set. But I think if you're planning for those additions you've got to factor that into the cost. Settling for the $150 Hasbro retail version and then spending $100 on reprolabels and 3rd party upgrades doesn't make a whole lot of sense in my book - assuming the Takara Version gets you everything you'd want.
Posted by william-james88 on June 19th, 2015 @ 12:49pm CDT
itscramtastic wrote:I feel like I'm leaning more toward the SDCC version, unless the TT version blows me away on Saturday. I mean, someone can 3D print the guns right? RIGHT?! Also, where's the non-firing missile attachment for SDCC Devastator's head (G1!!)?! Has anyone mentioned that?!
I am sure there will be upgrade kits available. But while upgrade kits are fun, pound for pound nothing beats officially licensed exclusive stuff in the secondary market (meaning increased value down the road).
Posted by NuclearConvoy on June 19th, 2015 @ 12:53pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:NuclearConvoy wrote:At that price, even if I can use my friend's TRU employee discount, it may be more worthwhile to get the Takara version.
I dont understand. Why wouldnt the takara version be even more expensive than this? And have you thought of the import costs when getting it from japan? the shipping will be ridiculous. You can always buy BBTS, but you live in canada right? So let's assume the Takara best case scenario is 200$ US.
Shipping to canada from the states will be 30$ at least. You will be charged 10$ duty and an extra 15% guaranteed tax fee for such a huge purchase/box.
So you would end up paying about 331$ cdn for Takara's instead of about 180$ cdn for the hasbro version at TRU (I am basically cancelling out the taxes with the employee discount). How is this not more worthwhile?
Your logic may well be right. I haven't imported much recently.
Posted by galvatron00 on June 19th, 2015 @ 12:55pm CDT
Truthwilliam-james88 wrote:I am sure there will be upgrade kits available. But while upgrade kits are fun, pound for pound nothing beats officially licensed exclusive stuff in the secondary market (meaning increased value down the road).itscramtastic wrote:I feel like I'm leaning more toward the SDCC version, unless the TT version blows me away on Saturday. I mean, someone can 3D print the guns right? RIGHT?! Also, where's the non-firing missile attachment for SDCC Devastator's head (G1!!)?! Has anyone mentioned that?!
Seriously though, where's the missile.
Posted by william-james88 on June 19th, 2015 @ 12:57pm CDT
NuclearConvoy wrote:william-james88 wrote:NuclearConvoy wrote:At that price, even if I can use my friend's TRU employee discount, it may be more worthwhile to get the Takara version.
I dont understand. Why wouldnt the takara version be even more expensive than this? And have you thought of the import costs when getting it from japan? the shipping will be ridiculous. You can always buy BBTS, but you live in canada right? So let's assume the Takara best case scenario is 200$ US.
Shipping to canada from the states will be 30$ at least. You will be charged 10$ duty and an extra 15% guaranteed tax fee for such a huge purchase/box.
So you would end up paying about 331$ cdn for Takara's instead of about 180$ cdn for the hasbro version at TRU (I am basically cancelling out the taxes with the employee discount). How is this not more worthwhile?
Your logic may well be right. I haven't imported much recently.
The thing that I keep underestimating is how piss poor our dollar is. It will gravely affect my decision, and probably yours too.
It's so piss poor that it's worse than TRU predicted. Devastator is on preorder for 159.99$ US everwhere which is 196$ cdn, so slightly more expensive than what TRU is asking for.
Posted by galvatron00 on June 19th, 2015 @ 1:00pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 19th, 2015 @ 1:05pm CDT
itscramtastic wrote:Truthwilliam-james88 wrote:I am sure there will be upgrade kits available. But while upgrade kits are fun, pound for pound nothing beats officially licensed exclusive stuff in the secondary market (meaning increased value down the road).itscramtastic wrote:I feel like I'm leaning more toward the SDCC version, unless the TT version blows me away on Saturday. I mean, someone can 3D print the guns right? RIGHT?! Also, where's the non-firing missile attachment for SDCC Devastator's head (G1!!)?! Has anyone mentioned that?!
Seriously though, where's the missile.
Not in the G1 cartoon, therefore not on this toy. It looked rather silly anyway
Posted by galvatron00 on June 19th, 2015 @ 1:24pm CDT
I thought the SDCC was supposed to represent the G1 toy? Therefore it SHOULD exist, but we aren't getting individual bot guns on the SDCC either so..JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Not in the G1 cartoon, therefore not on this toy. It looked rather silly anywayitscramtastic wrote:Truthwilliam-james88 wrote:I am sure there will be upgrade kits available. But while upgrade kits are fun, pound for pound nothing beats officially licensed exclusive stuff in the secondary market (meaning increased value down the road).itscramtastic wrote:I feel like I'm leaning more toward the SDCC version, unless the TT version blows me away on Saturday. I mean, someone can 3D print the guns right? RIGHT?! Also, where's the non-firing missile attachment for SDCC Devastator's head (G1!!)?! Has anyone mentioned that?!
Seriously though, where's the missile.
Posted by NuclearConvoy on June 19th, 2015 @ 1:36pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:NuclearConvoy wrote:william-james88 wrote:NuclearConvoy wrote:At that price, even if I can use my friend's TRU employee discount, it may be more worthwhile to get the Takara version.
I dont understand. Why wouldnt the takara version be even more expensive than this? And have you thought of the import costs when getting it from japan? the shipping will be ridiculous. You can always buy BBTS, but you live in canada right? So let's assume the Takara best case scenario is 200$ US.
Shipping to canada from the states will be 30$ at least. You will be charged 10$ duty and an extra 15% guaranteed tax fee for such a huge purchase/box.
So you would end up paying about 331$ cdn for Takara's instead of about 180$ cdn for the hasbro version at TRU (I am basically cancelling out the taxes with the employee discount). How is this not more worthwhile?
Your logic may well be right. I haven't imported much recently.
The thing that I keep underestimating is how piss poor our dollar is. It will gravely affect my decision, and probably yours too.
It's so piss poor that it's worse than TRU predicted. Devastator is on preorder for 159.99$ US everwhere which is 196$ cdn, so slightly more expensive than what TRU is asking for.
And it's all because Stephen bloody Harper decided we, as a country, only needed the oil economy and crippled us by shacking our dollar directly to the boom and bust of big oil.
Posted by galvatron00 on June 19th, 2015 @ 1:43pm CDT
And if it was the U.S. release G1 it would have purple forearms AND fists, so there's that. You win this round JZGR....itscramtastic wrote:I thought the SDCC was supposed to represent the G1 toy? Therefore it SHOULD exist, but we aren't getting individual bot guns on the SDCC either so..JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Not in the G1 cartoon, therefore not on this toy. It looked rather silly anywayitscramtastic wrote:Seriously though, where's the missile.
Posted by Evil Eye on June 19th, 2015 @ 1:54pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Delta Magnus wrote:A fitting analogy considering how awful Play Arts Kai are.william-james88 wrote:This Devy is a play arts Kai Kai figure compared to that Optimus.
I was comparing the articulation mainly. What do you personally find awful about them?
PAK are known for ugly joints, QC problems, bad paint, being overpriced and being woefully out of scale with other figures. I personally don't own any but what with all the horror stories I've heard about them (plus the fact I generally stick to 6" scale for my figure collection, and the insane prices) I avoid them.
Posted by jay5 on June 19th, 2015 @ 2:19pm CDT
NuclearConvoy wrote:william-james88 wrote:NuclearConvoy wrote:william-james88 wrote:NuclearConvoy wrote:At that price, even if I can use my friend's TRU employee discount, it may be more worthwhile to get the Takara version.
I dont understand. Why wouldnt the takara version be even more expensive than this? And have you thought of the import costs when getting it from japan? the shipping will be ridiculous. You can always buy BBTS, but you live in canada right? So let's assume the Takara best case scenario is 200$ US.
Shipping to canada from the states will be 30$ at least. You will be charged 10$ duty and an extra 15% guaranteed tax fee for such a huge purchase/box.
So you would end up paying about 331$ cdn for Takara's instead of about 180$ cdn for the hasbro version at TRU (I am basically cancelling out the taxes with the employee discount). How is this not more worthwhile?
Your logic may well be right. I haven't imported much recently.
The thing that I keep underestimating is how piss poor our dollar is. It will gravely affect my decision, and probably yours too.
It's so piss poor that it's worse than TRU predicted. Devastator is on preorder for 159.99$ US everwhere which is 196$ cdn, so slightly more expensive than what TRU is asking for.
And it's all because Stephen bloody Harper decided we, as a country, only needed the oil economy and crippled us by shacking our dollar directly to the boom and bust of big oil.
To be fair, that could have gone either way. It's the uncontrollable factors that make it a risky and currently bad idea -- factors like the US's continued meddling in the middle east that results in the Saudis and others yanking their leash with oil production to try to bankrupt the shale production companies and the resulting economic fluctuations which are apparently impacting Canada in a worse way.
Posted by Seibertron on June 19th, 2015 @ 3:20pm CDT
Posted by Madeus Prime on June 19th, 2015 @ 3:23pm CDT
Posted by Randomhero on June 19th, 2015 @ 4:02pm CDT
Madeus Prime wrote:Wow, that is some serious back kibble those individual figures are sporting. Just another reason to not feel guilty for passing this up.
right because you never intend to combine them if you do own them and because kibble has been total taboo from Transformers for 30 years. what are you even expecting?
Posted by NuclearConvoy on June 19th, 2015 @ 4:09pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:Madeus Prime wrote:Wow, that is some serious back kibble those individual figures are sporting. Just another reason to not feel guilty for passing this up.
right because you never intend to combine them if you do own them and because kibble has been total taboo from Transformers for 30 years. what are you even expecting?
While a little harshly worded, I totally agree.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on June 19th, 2015 @ 4:10pm CDT
Are these the sdcc versions? the legs on the bulldozer guy weren't painted...
Posted by Madeus Prime on June 19th, 2015 @ 4:18pm CDT
NuclearConvoy wrote:Randomhero wrote:Madeus Prime wrote:Wow, that is some serious back kibble those individual figures are sporting. Just another reason to not feel guilty for passing this up.
right because you never intend to combine them if you do own them and because kibble has been total taboo from Transformers for 30 years. what are you even expecting?
While a little harshly worded, I totally agree.
*Sigh* I think the individual figures look, honestly, really crappy. The Combined form is great, no arguing that, but honestly, I don't get a sense of awe when looking at it, the arms look a bit to small and the head is, while perfectly G1, very simple. I'm not trying to aggravate the Devastator fanboys out here, but I'd take any of the 3'd Party figures over this guy. At least they all have elbows, even the legends scale one.
Posted by Randomhero on June 19th, 2015 @ 4:27pm CDT
Madeus Prime wrote:NuclearConvoy wrote:Randomhero wrote:Madeus Prime wrote:Wow, that is some serious back kibble those individual figures are sporting. Just another reason to not feel guilty for passing this up.
right because you never intend to combine them if you do own them and because kibble has been total taboo from Transformers for 30 years. what are you even expecting?
While a little harshly worded, I totally agree.
*Sigh* I think the individual figures look, honestly, really crappy. The Combined form is great, no arguing that, but honestly, I don't get a sense of awe when looking at it, the arms look a bit to small and the head is, while perfectly G1, very simple. I'm not trying to aggravate the Devastator fanboys out here, but I'd take any of the 3'd Party figures over this guy. At least they all have elbows, even the legends scale one.
and i plan on continuing to support Hasbro/Takara to show my gratitude that after 30 years, we still get G1 characters modernized. spend your $600 on $120 worth of plastic. ill continue to support the people that made my childhood great while you spit in their face saying you'd rather buy 3rd party figures.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on June 19th, 2015 @ 4:38pm CDT
He's got a fair point of the individual figures being somewhat lacking. I'm sure lots of collectors display combiners individually; I do, Sometimes I just dismember a combiner and pose my fleet of figures.
So wanting a nice set of individual figures is equally important to some, as a cohesive combined mode is to others. I will not buy this set so long as it is tremendously underpainted, and/or lacks individual elbows. I won't go 3P, I'll just miss out; but I have my rules and Devestator breaks them.
Posted by NuclearConvoy on June 19th, 2015 @ 4:40pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:Madeus Prime wrote:NuclearConvoy wrote:Randomhero wrote:Madeus Prime wrote:Wow, that is some serious back kibble those individual figures are sporting. Just another reason to not feel guilty for passing this up.
right because you never intend to combine them if you do own them and because kibble has been total taboo from Transformers for 30 years. what are you even expecting?
While a little harshly worded, I totally agree.
*Sigh* I think the individual figures look, honestly, really crappy. The Combined form is great, no arguing that, but honestly, I don't get a sense of awe when looking at it, the arms look a bit to small and the head is, while perfectly G1, very simple. I'm not trying to aggravate the Devastator fanboys out here, but I'd take any of the 3'd Party figures over this guy. At least they all have elbows, even the legends scale one.
and i plan on continuing to support Hasbro/Takara to show my gratitude that after 30 years, we still get G1 characters modernized. spend your $600 on $120 worth of plastic. ill continue to support the people that made my childhood great while you spit in their face saying you'd rather buy 3rd party figures.
Considering Hasbro has very intelligently not shut down 3P groups who are clearly infringing on their IP I don't see how anyone is spitting in anyone's face. Hasbro has clearly been watching the 3P stuff to guage what fans want but what most can't afford and have been carefully constructing well engineered official competition for 3P buyer's attention.