SDCC 2015 Exclusive Transformers Generations Devastator - Individual Constructicons and Gestalt Shot
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TRANSFORMERS: GENERATIONS COMBINER WARS DEVASTATOR Special Edition Action Figure
(Ages 8 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: $179.99/Available through HasbroToyShop.com or Booth #3213 at Comic-Con International in San Diego)
Be the first to get your hands on Hasbro’s largest TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS: COMBINER WARS figure! This massive set features six Voyager scale figures packed out in their combined DEVASTATOR mode in an exclusive window box display with a unique CONSTRUCTICON theme. This Special Edition of DEVASTATOR also features a brand new head sculpt and an exclusive deco featuring vac-metal parts! Fans will also receive a Hasbro SDCC exclusive cover edition of IDW
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Posted by Spanbauer on June 11th, 2015 @ 2:05pm CDT
Posted by steals_your_goats on June 11th, 2015 @ 2:08pm CDT
Spanbauer wrote:Whipped up a comparison of the Hasbro retail versions versus the SDCC versions. Like I keep saying, the vac-metal purple is the least notable change. The SDCC versions are dramatically superior in the paint apps and decals department.
That comparison definitely solidified my decision to go with the SDCC version, and at only $30 more than the regular it's a no brainer. Now I just have to watch HTS like a hawk.
Posted by dragons on June 11th, 2015 @ 2:09pm CDT
Posted by megatronus on June 11th, 2015 @ 2:16pm CDT
Posted by galvatron00 on June 11th, 2015 @ 2:18pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 11th, 2015 @ 2:22pm CDT
megatronus wrote:Before it looked like chrome; now it's metallic highlights, right?
"Vac-metal parts" (short for "vacuum metalised parts") basically means it has chrome covering certain parts, like Transmetal figures from Beast Wars (hopefully not as flaky).
Posted by Robogeek1973 on June 11th, 2015 @ 2:24pm CDT
Posted by Logan. on June 11th, 2015 @ 2:32pm CDT
The chrome appears more like a metallic paint in effect.
At the moment, I think I will buy this version, waiting possible Takara version pictures.
Posted by william-james88 on June 11th, 2015 @ 2:40pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 11th, 2015 @ 2:48pm CDT
They went with a model of cement truck that would be of appropriate size with Long Haul's gigantic mining dump truck altmode.william-james88 wrote:You know, the more I think about it, I dont get why Mixmaster couldnt be the conventional cement truck he was in G1. Both ends could easily be interchanged if designed a little different.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 11th, 2015 @ 2:51pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:You know, the more I think about it, I dont get why Mixmaster couldnt be the conventional cement truck he was in G1. Both ends could easily be interchanged if designed a little different.
Like Scrapper's missing elbows it's probably for stability. The cab of the original toy was rather big and still had the wheels in leg mode, while CW Mixmaster has a smaller foot, more room to wiggle and above all, no wheels.
Posted by william-james88 on June 11th, 2015 @ 2:53pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:They went with a model of cement truck that would be of appropriate size with Long Haul's gigantic mining dump truck altmode.william-james88 wrote:You know, the more I think about it, I dont get why Mixmaster couldnt be the conventional cement truck he was in G1. Both ends could easily be interchanged if designed a little different.
Ah, but as we all kind of agreed on, alt mode scale is not something any of us really expect from the brand
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Like Scrapper's missing elbows it's probably for stability. The cab of the original toy was rather big and still had the wheels in leg mode, while CW Mixmaster has a smaller foot, more room to wiggle and above all, no wheels.
I rpeffer this reason to the one above. I am all for structural integrity
Posted by no-one on June 11th, 2015 @ 2:54pm CDT
It has finally dawned on me.
I've used that image off and on as my phone's wallpaper.
Posted by Sabrblade on June 11th, 2015 @ 2:56pm CDT
Between group teammates in this line, it is. Hence the reduction of Groove to a Legends.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:They went with a model of cement truck that would be of appropriate size with Long Haul's gigantic mining dump truck altmode.william-james88 wrote:You know, the more I think about it, I dont get why Mixmaster couldnt be the conventional cement truck he was in G1. Both ends could easily be interchanged if designed a little different.
Ah, but as we all kind of agreed on, alt mode scale is not something any of us really expect from the brand
They wanted the Constructicons to all be giant mining vehicles, so the model of cement truck they went with for Mixmaster is the kind that is that big. And they wanted to modernize him.
Posted by MrBlack on June 11th, 2015 @ 3:00pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Between group teammates in this line, it is. Hence the reduction of Groove to a Legends.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:They went with a model of cement truck that would be of appropriate size with Long Haul's gigantic mining dump truck altmode.william-james88 wrote:You know, the more I think about it, I dont get why Mixmaster couldnt be the conventional cement truck he was in G1. Both ends could easily be interchanged if designed a little different.
Ah, but as we all kind of agreed on, alt mode scale is not something any of us really expect from the brand
They wanted the Constructicons to all be giant mining vehicles, so the model of cement truck they went with for Mixmaster is the kind that is that big. And they wanted to modernize him.
It's worth noting that there seem to be enough details on both ends of the truck that Mixmaster can pass as a more traditional cement mixer if that's what you want him to be.
Posted by william-james88 on June 11th, 2015 @ 3:01pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Between group teammates in this line, it is. Hence the reduction of Groove to a Legends.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:They went with a model of cement truck that would be of appropriate size with Long Haul's gigantic mining dump truck altmode.william-james88 wrote:You know, the more I think about it, I dont get why Mixmaster couldnt be the conventional cement truck he was in G1. Both ends could easily be interchanged if designed a little different.
Ah, but as we all kind of agreed on, alt mode scale is not something any of us really expect from the brand
They wanted the Constructicons to all be giant mining vehicles, so the model of cement truck they went with for Mixmaster is the kind that is that big. And they wanted to modernize him.
That still seems to go against the general look of the figure that is basically: pure G1. I find that its G1 look is more invasive than it's theme of them being giant mining vehicles.
And as for groove, while I totally see that Hasbro logic being carried in both that release and this one, I am pretty sure the fandom proved just how much they would rather have a deluxe one.
MrBlack wrote:It's worth noting that there seem to be enough details on both ends of the truck that Mixmaster can pass as a more traditional cement mixer if that's what you want him to be.
Oh totally! Hence why I wasnt sure why they didnt simply go full on G1. But the wheels comment makes sense, and it seems the capability to make him face either way is a good compromise to the alt mode change for structural reasons.
Posted by King Kuuga on June 11th, 2015 @ 3:06pm CDT
SillySpringer wrote:MrBlack wrote:1) Prowl took Hook's place as Devastator's upper torso, with Hook becoming Devastator's right leg (replacing Scrapper). Thus, an accurate Prowlastator would require two new figures: Prowl as the upper torso, and a new Hook to form the right leg. In addition, building a Prowl who would be his usual black and white in robot and car mode and green in combined mode would tax even the most brilliant engineer at Takara.
1) Prowl is green in both modes as a constructicon, so it wouldn't be as hard as you are making it out to be.
Prowl is black and white. Period.
That picture you posted of Prowl in green and purple is fanart.
Posted by william-james88 on June 11th, 2015 @ 3:10pm CDT
Posted by Va'al on June 11th, 2015 @ 3:11pm CDT
That Bot wrote:
That picture you posted of Prowl in green and purple is fanart.
Or rather, colourist Josh Perez playing around with the scene. But yes, not official colours in any way.
Posted by no-one on June 11th, 2015 @ 3:14pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Hey guys. now that we have a better look at the remolded head for the SDCC version, which one do you preffer? I actually like the normal one but I preffer the paint apps on SDCC. And for only 30$ more, it sounds fair. But since I dont want to end up with 2 devastators (I dont even have space for 1 but I will figure something out), I think I will stick to the normal version dur to its head sculpt.
I'm with you Will. I'm torn over the head, but dem paint apps.
$30 isn't enough to sway me, so it comes down to deco preference.
Posted by Cobotron on June 11th, 2015 @ 3:21pm CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on June 11th, 2015 @ 3:28pm CDT
Cobotron wrote:Just so we can see them side by side.
By the way, shouldn't the SDCC version have a metallic gray/silver forehead too, if it's trying to match up with the alternate cartoon character model (or the original toy).
Posted by no-one on June 11th, 2015 @ 3:36pm CDT
I actually like the black forehead better. I just want some cool guy shades on my Devy.
Posted by jay5 on June 11th, 2015 @ 3:46pm CDT
The non-rotating mixer barrel, non-extending crane arm, and the likely non-jointed excavator arm irk me, though.
itscramtastic wrote:I agree with you Megatronus, I haven't run in to any paint issues with TT, jay. Usually the case is that the TT paint ends up being more accurate to the original item (either animation or toy model) I thought?megatronus wrote:What do you mean? Takara-Tomy normally has AWESOME paint apps.jay5 wrote:Ah, I guess if most of it is actually color-infused plastic and not painted plastic or painted metal, the poor quality of paint application we've seen on TT products won't be as much of an issue.
The reviews of some of the car Autobots have shown pretty poor paint quality control issues. Same with Soundwave and the cassette Decepticons. For Masterpiece-level models, they seem to have inferior paint to this TG combiner Devastator.
Posted by jay5 on June 11th, 2015 @ 3:50pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Hey guys. now that we have a better look at the remolded head for the SDCC version, which one do you preffer? I actually like the normal one but I preffer the paint apps on SDCC. And for only 30$ more, it sounds fair. But since I dont want to end up with 2 devastators (I dont even have space for 1 but I will figure something out), I think I will stick to the normal version dur to its head sculpt.
Unless Hasbro has a store page where you can order the SDCC version, or you are able to attend the convention yourself, which very few people overall are able to do, it's more like 100% more, not $30 more. Look at eBay - all of the listings are around $300 for an SDCC version Devy.
Posted by william-james88 on June 11th, 2015 @ 3:50pm CDT
carytheone wrote:I would imagine the heads are swappable, but some of the purple may go with it.
I actually like the black forehead better. I just want some cool guy shades on my Devy.
The shades really make all the difference for me.
Posted by Cobotron on June 11th, 2015 @ 3:51pm CDT
dittowilliam-james88 wrote:carytheone wrote:I would imagine the heads are swappable, but some of the purple may go with it.
I actually like the black forehead better. I just want some cool guy shades on my Devy.
The shades really make all the difference for me.
Posted by william-james88 on June 11th, 2015 @ 3:52pm CDT
jay5 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Hey guys. now that we have a better look at the remolded head for the SDCC version, which one do you preffer? I actually like the normal one but I preffer the paint apps on SDCC. And for only 30$ more, it sounds fair. But since I dont want to end up with 2 devastators (I dont even have space for 1 but I will figure something out), I think I will stick to the normal version dur to its head sculpt.
Unless Hasbro has a store page where you can order the SDCC version, or you are able to attend the convention yourself, which very few people overall are able to do, it's more like 100% more, not $30 more. Look at eBay - all of the listings are around $300 for an SDCC version Devy.
Come on man, its written right there in black and white:
Retail Price: $179.99/Available through HasbroToyShop.com
All those who preordered him for 300$ are currently trying to cancel their orders, I am sure.
Posted by megatronus on June 11th, 2015 @ 3:53pm CDT
jay5 wrote:Paint looks good on the SDCC
The non-rotating mixer barrel, non-extending crane arm, and the likely non-jointed excavator arm irk me, though.itscramtastic wrote:I agree with you Megatronus, I haven't run in to any paint issues with TT, jay. Usually the case is that the TT paint ends up being more accurate to the original item (either animation or toy model) I thought?megatronus wrote:What do you mean? Takara-Tomy normally has AWESOME paint apps.jay5 wrote:Ah, I guess if most of it is actually color-infused plastic and not painted plastic or painted metal, the poor quality of paint application we've seen on TT products won't be as much of an issue.
The reviews of some of the car Autobots have shown pretty poor paint quality control issues. Same with Soundwave and the cassette Decepticons. For Masterpiece-level models, they seem to have inferior paint to this TG combiner Devastator.
First of all, you shouldn't conflate Masterpiece and Generations; even when both fall under Takara, they're different animals.
Second, the only MP figure I know of that saw widespread paint QC issues was Sideswipe, and that was several years ago. I haven't heard anything negative about the cassettes or Soundwave in that department, so if you could provide links or source those claims, I would appreciate it. I've had no such issues with mine.
Posted by steals_your_goats on June 11th, 2015 @ 3:53pm CDT
jay5 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Hey guys. now that we have a better look at the remolded head for the SDCC version, which one do you preffer? I actually like the normal one but I preffer the paint apps on SDCC. And for only 30$ more, it sounds fair. But since I dont want to end up with 2 devastators (I dont even have space for 1 but I will figure something out), I think I will stick to the normal version dur to its head sculpt.
Unless Hasbro has a store page where you can order the SDCC version, or you are able to attend the convention yourself, which very few people overall are able to do, it's more like 100% more, not $30 more. Look at eBay - all of the listings are around $300 for an SDCC version Devy.
Hasbrotoyshop.com Will have a limited amount of Devy and the combiner hunters set during or after sdcc for the convention price.
Posted by jay5 on June 11th, 2015 @ 4:00pm CDT
megatronus wrote:jay5 wrote:Paint looks good on the SDCC
The non-rotating mixer barrel, non-extending crane arm, and the likely non-jointed excavator arm irk me, though.itscramtastic wrote:I agree with you Megatronus, I haven't run in to any paint issues with TT, jay. Usually the case is that the TT paint ends up being more accurate to the original item (either animation or toy model) I thought?megatronus wrote:What do you mean? Takara-Tomy normally has AWESOME paint apps.jay5 wrote:Ah, I guess if most of it is actually color-infused plastic and not painted plastic or painted metal, the poor quality of paint application we've seen on TT products won't be as much of an issue.
The reviews of some of the car Autobots have shown pretty poor paint quality control issues. Same with Soundwave and the cassette Decepticons. For Masterpiece-level models, they seem to have inferior paint to this TG combiner Devastator.
First of all, you shouldn't conflate Masterpiece and Generations; even when both fall under Takara, they're different animals.
Second, the only MP figure I know of that saw widespread paint QC issues was Sideswipe, and that was several years ago. I haven't heard anything negative about the cassettes or Soundwave in that department, so if you could provide links or source those claims, I would appreciate it. I've had no such issues with mine.
Sure, however I don't have the time right now to take photos of my mint-just-out-of-box cassettes to show their mediocre paint and marred paint issues. They're rather disappointing even for their MSRP, let alone what I paid for them which was much more.
Here's someone who mentioned their Soundwave has poor QC paint issues. Mine is still en route, but hopefully doesn't have those issues.
Here's a video of MP-12 Sideswipe with pretty horrible paint matching between materials fresh out of the box, plus bubbled paint errors on the roof.
Don't have time to pull up more right now, but hopefully that helps.
So is Generations normally better quality than Masterpiece?
Posted by no-one on June 11th, 2015 @ 4:06pm CDT
Cobotron wrote:dittowilliam-james88 wrote:carytheone wrote:I just want some cool guy shades on my Devy.
The shades really make all the difference for me.
Because you are cool guys. *franticly looks for some cool shades to be part if the group, sadly finds none*
Posted by Robogeek1973 on June 11th, 2015 @ 4:10pm CDT
Sadly there isn't a snowball's chance in a furnace that I'll be able to get online in the hope of catching him the two minutes he's available on HTS, so unless I find someone willing to snag one for me I'm outta luck.
Posted by Alpha Dominus on June 11th, 2015 @ 4:11pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on June 11th, 2015 @ 4:17pm CDT
Robogeek1973 wrote:My plan was to hold off and see if TakTom's Devastator did indeed have remolding as teased, but this deco is freaking gorgeous!
Sadly there isn't a snowball's chance in a furnace that I'll be able to get online in the hope of catching him the two minutes he's available on HTS, so unless I find someone willing to snag one for me I'm outta luck.
I wouldnt be so sure he'd be crazy hard to get online. The dinobots were available for a while.
Posted by Robogeek1973 on June 11th, 2015 @ 4:27pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Robogeek1973 wrote:My plan was to hold off and see if TakTom's Devastator did indeed have remolding as teased, but this deco is freaking gorgeous!
Sadly there isn't a snowball's chance in a furnace that I'll be able to get online in the hope of catching him the two minutes he's available on HTS, so unless I find someone willing to snag one for me I'm outta luck.
I wouldnt be so sure he'd be crazy hard to get online. The dinobots were available for a while.
True, but those were movie bots AND an incomplete set.
This is true G1, not a repainted movie figure.
G1 sells.
Posted by Moosey on June 11th, 2015 @ 5:07pm CDT
Robogeek1973 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Robogeek1973 wrote:My plan was to hold off and see if TakTom's Devastator did indeed have remolding as teased, but this deco is freaking gorgeous!
Sadly there isn't a snowball's chance in a furnace that I'll be able to get online in the hope of catching him the two minutes he's available on HTS, so unless I find someone willing to snag one for me I'm outta luck.
I wouldnt be so sure he'd be crazy hard to get online. The dinobots were available for a while.
True, but those were movie bots AND an incomplete set.
This is true G1, not a repainted movie figure.
G1 sells.
By the G1 sells logic, I'm hoping I might be able to get the Combiner Hunters 3 pack on HTS. Fingers crossed.
Posted by munkimus prime on June 11th, 2015 @ 5:17pm CDT
Posted by Robogeek1973 on June 11th, 2015 @ 5:55pm CDT
munkimus prime wrote:I'm not trying to insult Hasbro's retail Release of Devy but after seeing the comparison pics above. The SDCC Devy makes the retail version look like a unpainted prototype. I think I'll go for SDCC's or takaras version on this 'cause those extra paint apps really make Devy pop.
Yeah, if I was Hasbro I'd be ashamed of that retail Devy.
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on June 11th, 2015 @ 6:10pm CDT
That Bot wrote:SillySpringer wrote:MrBlack wrote:1) Prowl took Hook's place as Devastator's upper torso, with Hook becoming Devastator's right leg (replacing Scrapper). Thus, an accurate Prowlastator would require two new figures: Prowl as the upper torso, and a new Hook to form the right leg. In addition, building a Prowl who would be his usual black and white in robot and car mode and green in combined mode would tax even the most brilliant engineer at Takara.
1) Prowl is green in both modes as a constructicon, so it wouldn't be as hard as you are making it out to be.
Prowl is black and white. Period.
That picture you posted of Prowl in green and purple is fanart.
Posted by william-james88 on June 11th, 2015 @ 6:18pm CDT
Robogeek1973 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Robogeek1973 wrote:My plan was to hold off and see if TakTom's Devastator did indeed have remolding as teased, but this deco is freaking gorgeous!
Sadly there isn't a snowball's chance in a furnace that I'll be able to get online in the hope of catching him the two minutes he's available on HTS, so unless I find someone willing to snag one for me I'm outta luck.
I wouldnt be so sure he'd be crazy hard to get online. The dinobots were available for a while.
True, but those were movie bots AND an incomplete set.
This is true G1, not a repainted movie figure.
G1 sells.
Firstly, its established above that he isn't true G1 due to mixmaster's updated alt mode. Secondly, G1 is not a definite sell. Ask anyone about those times TRU tried to sell those reissues. This year's G1 reissued insecticons will stay at KMART and TRU for a long time. If Metroplex sold super well, he wouldnt have been discounted to so low in the end. Sure, you can dissect what I just wrote and give conditions but that just comes to show that a blanket statement like "G1 sells" doesnt mean all that much and isnt inherently true. I think this will sell more because it's a great Devastator and not necessarily because this is true G1.
Posted by william-james88 on June 11th, 2015 @ 6:18pm CDT
Posted by Robogeek1973 on June 11th, 2015 @ 6:28pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Here's hoping Takara's Devastar gets the retail devy head with the SDCC paint apps.
And elbows for Scrapper.
Posted by King Kuuga on June 11th, 2015 @ 6:32pm CDT
Robogeek1973 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Here's hoping Takara's Devastar gets the retail devy head with the SDCC paint apps.
And elbows for Scrapper.
I can say with a fair amount of confidence that that's not happening.
Posted by Robogeek1973 on June 11th, 2015 @ 6:38pm CDT
That Bot wrote:Robogeek1973 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Here's hoping Takara's Devastar gets the retail devy head with the SDCC paint apps.
And elbows for Scrapper.
I can say with a fair amount of confidence that that's not happening.
I dunno man, that TakTom teaser silhouette sure made it look like Scrapper had a bent arm.
Until I see different, I remain optimistic.
Posted by no-one on June 11th, 2015 @ 6:57pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Here's hoping Takara's Devastar gets the retail devy head with the SDCC paint apps.
That thought gives me shivers.
Posted by Alpha Dominus on June 11th, 2015 @ 7:05pm CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on June 11th, 2015 @ 7:06pm CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on June 11th, 2015 @ 7:12pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Here's hoping Takara's Devastar gets the retail devy head with the SDCC paint apps.
I second that notion!