Transformers: Age of Extinction Makes $41.6 Mln Opening, $80mln Internationally
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Thanks to a tip from fellow Seibertron.com user Rodimus Prime, we can share an article on ComingSoon.net regarding the opening numbers for recently released (in several countries, though not all around the world) Transformers: Age of Extinction. As of June 28th 2014, the total national US gross was $41.6 million, with an international total of $80 million in its first three days! Read part of the full article below, and head here for more - and make sure to discuss the fim on our boards!
Michael Bay's Transformers: Age of Extinction, starring Mark Wahlberg, opened on Thursday night to the tune of $8.8 million in previews and it's now being reported that it has grossed an estimated $41.6 million its opening Friday (including those previews).
UPDATE: "Age of Extinction" grossed $52 million internationally in 36 markets on Friday, bringing its international total to $80 million after three days. China brought in a record-breaking $30 million in a single day in its regular and IMAX theaters, the latter 148 screens making up 24% of the total IMAX screens globally.
This is the biggest opening day for any movie this year, giving it the best chance at being the first movie of the year to gross over $100 million its opening weekend, although there are other factors to consider before jumping to that conclusion.
Read more: Transformers: Age of Extinction Takes $41.6 Million Opening Day - ComingSoon.net http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienew ... #/slide/55#ixzz360kJ92oy
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Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction Makes $41.6 Mln Opening, $80mln Internationally (1586545)
Posted by Rodimus2006 on June 29th, 2014 @ 2:42am CDT
Posted by Rodimus2006 on June 29th, 2014 @ 2:42am CDT
Saw the movie the other day, also I saw it in 3D big improvement since I last say DOTM in 3D which was almost un-watchable in 3DS it was to Blurry & gave me a headache.
3D must have been improved dramatically since then it was clear as crystal & nice sounds.
My thoughts on AOE.
Loved the Film big improvement over DOTM
Long Movie almost 3 Hours
Focuses more on Transformers & less on Humans Nice + Here
Mark nailed his Role as Cade Yager, surpasses Shia.
We learn more on the Transformers Origins
We learned that Optimus is a Knight of Cybertron
The Dinobots were not called Dinobots nor did they have names
Dinobots did not have much Screen Time.
Hound was one of my Favorite new Bots
Hated the Samurai Bot
Also thought Crosshair was a Douchebag
They Made Bee to be out like a Immature Teen had awesome moments in the film when he saw his Clone Stinger.
Loved the Human-Made Transformers & their Transformations were Amazing & also different.
The Drones were also Awesome.
To me Lockdown Dogs reminded me of Energon's Terracons.
Lockdown's Ship OMG is all I can say about that.
Sets up nicely for Transformers 5
May not even have Optimus Prime back in TF 5 could be new leader maybe Ultra Magnus, Rodimus takes over.
Nice Transition from Old to New sets up for 2nd Trilogy.
Want to learn more on the Creators maybe different than G1 Quints.
The Seed was also Interesting seems to have an effect like the Key to Vector Sigma did in G1 transforming Organic into Metallic.
Optimus Prime was Darker, but given the circumstances I do not blame Prime, the Humans Turned on them, Butchered & killed Autobots without Reasoning, Leadfoot, Ratchet that was hard to watch.
Kelsey Grammar nailed his Villan role superb performance.
Did not care to much for Savoy he was a Douchebag.
Galvatron, was Weird, that is all I could say on him, but he wil big time be back in TF 5.
His Robotic Mode was Also Weird so was his VA, couldn't really tell that was Frank Welker anymore should have been done by Nimoy.
Overall I loved the movie, just took it a little bit to get it going, overall it was a big improvement over DOTM.
Also I didn't care to much for the Soundtrack or its Musical Score.
But overall I give AOE a 4 out of 5.
Also I didn't like Prime's Jet Mode, Different liked it better in DOTM reminded me of Jet Convoy in Armada.
Cant wait for Transformers 5 learn more on these Creators.
3D must have been improved dramatically since then it was clear as crystal & nice sounds.
My thoughts on AOE.
Loved the Film big improvement over DOTM
Long Movie almost 3 Hours
Focuses more on Transformers & less on Humans Nice + Here
Mark nailed his Role as Cade Yager, surpasses Shia.
We learn more on the Transformers Origins
We learned that Optimus is a Knight of Cybertron
The Dinobots were not called Dinobots nor did they have names
Dinobots did not have much Screen Time.
Hound was one of my Favorite new Bots
Hated the Samurai Bot
Also thought Crosshair was a Douchebag
They Made Bee to be out like a Immature Teen had awesome moments in the film when he saw his Clone Stinger.
Loved the Human-Made Transformers & their Transformations were Amazing & also different.
The Drones were also Awesome.
To me Lockdown Dogs reminded me of Energon's Terracons.
Lockdown's Ship OMG is all I can say about that.
Sets up nicely for Transformers 5
May not even have Optimus Prime back in TF 5 could be new leader maybe Ultra Magnus, Rodimus takes over.
Nice Transition from Old to New sets up for 2nd Trilogy.
Want to learn more on the Creators maybe different than G1 Quints.
The Seed was also Interesting seems to have an effect like the Key to Vector Sigma did in G1 transforming Organic into Metallic.
Optimus Prime was Darker, but given the circumstances I do not blame Prime, the Humans Turned on them, Butchered & killed Autobots without Reasoning, Leadfoot, Ratchet that was hard to watch.
Kelsey Grammar nailed his Villan role superb performance.
Did not care to much for Savoy he was a Douchebag.
Galvatron, was Weird, that is all I could say on him, but he wil big time be back in TF 5.
His Robotic Mode was Also Weird so was his VA, couldn't really tell that was Frank Welker anymore should have been done by Nimoy.
Overall I loved the movie, just took it a little bit to get it going, overall it was a big improvement over DOTM.
Also I didn't care to much for the Soundtrack or its Musical Score.
But overall I give AOE a 4 out of 5.
Also I didn't like Prime's Jet Mode, Different liked it better in DOTM reminded me of Jet Convoy in Armada.
Cant wait for Transformers 5 learn more on these Creators.
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction Makes $41.6 Mln Opening, $80mln Internationally (1586546)
Posted by BumbleDouche on June 29th, 2014 @ 2:58am CDT
Posted by BumbleDouche on June 29th, 2014 @ 2:58am CDT
This pains me greatly. It all but guarantees a continuation of the Bayverse crap-fest into perpetuity.
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction Makes $41.6 Mln Opening, $80mln Internationally (1586547)
Posted by Shuttershock on June 29th, 2014 @ 3:23am CDT
Posted by Shuttershock on June 29th, 2014 @ 3:23am CDT
Much like a new coat of paint only hides the structural flaws of a poorly built building, AoE is for the most part just a facelift. We've got a slightly better pedigree in terms of cast, but they're still forced to act like blithering incompetents when the slag hits the fan. The terrible script is still there, the terrible editing is still there, and the terrible plot holes are still there.
What little structure/plot the last films had to push them to their conclusions doesn't exist here. We have no feel for the stakes or any sense of urgency, so the movie feels nightmarishly long and I found myself being bored and just wanting it to end. And by that point, every tedious moment of forced comedy and bad editing did nothing but generate ill will for the movie as a whole, even the parts that I had been okay with previously.
I'll be honest, I was liking the first third of the movie, which was paced soberly, took time to set things up and, frankly, tricked you into thinking themes and attitudes had been overhauled. The worst I thought we'd have to weather was T.J. Miller being a douchebag and Mark Wahlberg being a tired stereotype of a "protective dad". I am now firmly convinced that this segment was directed by a second unit, because by the second act, we loose all focus, all subtlety, and crank the stereotype generator on full blast.
More than anything else, the writers, producers and directors STILL haven't learned that we'd much rather see a story with the Transformers as the stars, and adding big names like Wahlberg, Tucci and Grammer aren't helping that matter. Wahlberg is a good action star, but this is not HIS action movie. And what truly baffles me is that the Transformers franchise has to put up with this treatment. Consider this: if a superhero movie took drastic amounts of time away from the titular character to focus on uninteresting rehashed side characters, you'd hate that movie as a poor adaptation. But we have to put up with what I call the "Godzilla Syndrome" because our superheroes, now with 30 years of history and lineage to their names, just happen to be originally be based on a toyline? Is it because they don't think they can write alien robots as convincing characters, or that they don't want to try?
Either way, why do we have to grit our teeth and bear the fact that the most public branch of one of our favorite franchises, the one that likely dictates said brand's future, is at best just "okay" and at worst a tedious, unpleasant, poorly-written slog that shows no interest in changing or adapting? I'm not saying that we DESERVE more, but shouldn't we WANT more?
What little structure/plot the last films had to push them to their conclusions doesn't exist here. We have no feel for the stakes or any sense of urgency, so the movie feels nightmarishly long and I found myself being bored and just wanting it to end. And by that point, every tedious moment of forced comedy and bad editing did nothing but generate ill will for the movie as a whole, even the parts that I had been okay with previously.
I'll be honest, I was liking the first third of the movie, which was paced soberly, took time to set things up and, frankly, tricked you into thinking themes and attitudes had been overhauled. The worst I thought we'd have to weather was T.J. Miller being a douchebag and Mark Wahlberg being a tired stereotype of a "protective dad". I am now firmly convinced that this segment was directed by a second unit, because by the second act, we loose all focus, all subtlety, and crank the stereotype generator on full blast.
More than anything else, the writers, producers and directors STILL haven't learned that we'd much rather see a story with the Transformers as the stars, and adding big names like Wahlberg, Tucci and Grammer aren't helping that matter. Wahlberg is a good action star, but this is not HIS action movie. And what truly baffles me is that the Transformers franchise has to put up with this treatment. Consider this: if a superhero movie took drastic amounts of time away from the titular character to focus on uninteresting rehashed side characters, you'd hate that movie as a poor adaptation. But we have to put up with what I call the "Godzilla Syndrome" because our superheroes, now with 30 years of history and lineage to their names, just happen to be originally be based on a toyline? Is it because they don't think they can write alien robots as convincing characters, or that they don't want to try?
Either way, why do we have to grit our teeth and bear the fact that the most public branch of one of our favorite franchises, the one that likely dictates said brand's future, is at best just "okay" and at worst a tedious, unpleasant, poorly-written slog that shows no interest in changing or adapting? I'm not saying that we DESERVE more, but shouldn't we WANT more?
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction Makes $41.6 Mln Opening, $80mln Internationally (1586548)
Posted by Shuttershock on June 29th, 2014 @ 3:25am CDT
Posted by Shuttershock on June 29th, 2014 @ 3:25am CDT
Much like a new coat of paint only hides the structural flaws of a poorly built building, AoE is for the most part just a facelift. We've got a slightly better pedigree in terms of cast, but they're still forced to act like blithering incompetents when the slag hits the fan. The terrible script is still there, the terrible editing is still there, and the terrible plot holes are still there.
What little structure/plot the last films had to push them to their conclusions doesn't exist here. We have no feel for the stakes or any sense of urgency, so the movie feels nightmarishly long and I found myself being bored and just wanting it to end. And by that point, every tedious moment of forced comedy and bad editing did nothing but generate ill will for the movie as a whole, even the parts that I had been okay with previously.
I'll be honest, I was liking the first third of the movie, which was paced soberly, took time to set things up and, frankly, tricked you into thinking themes and attitudes had been overhauled. The worst I thought we'd have to weather was T.J. Miller being a douchebag and Mark Wahlberg being a tired stereotype of a "protective dad". I am now firmly convinced that this segment was directed by a second unit, because by the second act, we loose all focus, all subtlety, and crank the stereotype generator on full blast.
More than anything else, the writers, producers and directors STILL haven't learned that we'd much rather see a story with the Transformers as the stars, and adding big names like Wahlberg, Tucci and Grammer aren't helping that matter. Wahlberg is a good action star, but this is not HIS action movie. And what truly baffles me is that the Transformers franchise has to put up with this treatment. Consider this: if a superhero movie took drastic amounts of time away from the titular character to focus on uninteresting rehashed side characters, you'd hate that movie as a poor adaptation. But we have to put up with what I call the "Godzilla Syndrome" because our superheroes, now with 30 years of history and lineage to their names, just happen to be originally be based on a toyline? Is it because they don't think they can write alien robots as convincing characters, or that they don't want to try?
Either way, why do we have to grit our teeth and bear the fact that the most public branch of one of our favorite franchises, the one that likely dictates said brand's future, is at best just "okay" and at worst a tedious, unpleasant, poorly-written slog that shows no interest in changing or adapting? I'm not saying that we DESERVE more, but shouldn't we WANT more?
What little structure/plot the last films had to push them to their conclusions doesn't exist here. We have no feel for the stakes or any sense of urgency, so the movie feels nightmarishly long and I found myself being bored and just wanting it to end. And by that point, every tedious moment of forced comedy and bad editing did nothing but generate ill will for the movie as a whole, even the parts that I had been okay with previously.
I'll be honest, I was liking the first third of the movie, which was paced soberly, took time to set things up and, frankly, tricked you into thinking themes and attitudes had been overhauled. The worst I thought we'd have to weather was T.J. Miller being a douchebag and Mark Wahlberg being a tired stereotype of a "protective dad". I am now firmly convinced that this segment was directed by a second unit, because by the second act, we loose all focus, all subtlety, and crank the stereotype generator on full blast.
More than anything else, the writers, producers and directors STILL haven't learned that we'd much rather see a story with the Transformers as the stars, and adding big names like Wahlberg, Tucci and Grammer aren't helping that matter. Wahlberg is a good action star, but this is not HIS action movie. And what truly baffles me is that the Transformers franchise has to put up with this treatment. Consider this: if a superhero movie took drastic amounts of time away from the titular character to focus on uninteresting rehashed side characters, you'd hate that movie as a poor adaptation. But we have to put up with what I call the "Godzilla Syndrome" because our superheroes, now with 30 years of history and lineage to their names, just happen to be originally be based on a toyline? Is it because they don't think they can write alien robots as convincing characters, or that they don't want to try?
Either way, why do we have to grit our teeth and bear the fact that the most public branch of one of our favorite franchises, the one that likely dictates said brand's future, is at best just "okay" and at worst a tedious, unpleasant, poorly-written slog that shows no interest in changing or adapting? I'm not saying that we DESERVE more, but shouldn't we WANT more?
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction Makes $41.6 Mln Opening, $80mln Internationally (1586549)
Posted by Sagitta on June 29th, 2014 @ 3:34am CDT
Posted by Sagitta on June 29th, 2014 @ 3:34am CDT
There will always be naysayers who, for some reason, keep going back to see each new film only to complain. But that's the lovely thing about opinions...we all get to have some. 
Loved the movie due to the differnt direction it happened to take and the coherancy of the story. And much of it was beievable given the "backdrop" and situations given.
Someone may have have mentioned Optimus Prime and the other Autobots being out of character in certain areas. But when they wittnessed the recording of Ratchet being ruthlessly slaughtered...or when Optimus killed a human to save someone's life while leaving himself wide-open for a crippling shot there is a lot of sense to it and their actions.
The fact Sam and his obnoxious parents weren't involved were very big pluses. Not to mention the lack of crude humor was another big plus.
The fact it wasn't just another of Bay's "Humans and the Occasional Transformer" was perhaps the biggest plus of all.
Loved the movie due to the differnt direction it happened to take and the coherancy of the story. And much of it was beievable given the "backdrop" and situations given.
Someone may have have mentioned Optimus Prime and the other Autobots being out of character in certain areas. But when they wittnessed the recording of Ratchet being ruthlessly slaughtered...or when Optimus killed a human to save someone's life while leaving himself wide-open for a crippling shot there is a lot of sense to it and their actions.
The fact Sam and his obnoxious parents weren't involved were very big pluses. Not to mention the lack of crude humor was another big plus.
The fact it wasn't just another of Bay's "Humans and the Occasional Transformer" was perhaps the biggest plus of all.
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction Makes $41.6 Mln Opening, $80mln Internationally (1586551)
Posted by dabattousai on June 29th, 2014 @ 3:43am CDT
Posted by dabattousai on June 29th, 2014 @ 3:43am CDT
Not as good as the first film, better than the second film and it is up to par with the third film. It was long, and the "liquid transformation" is stupid and makes me think they were just too lazy to create real transformations for the Decepticon side. The Dinobots is the best part of the movie. The darker tones were great and Lockdown was badass. Like it has been mentioned, Michael Bay is just horrible with direction to flush out the story. I felt that it was there, could have been a good story if more dialogue and more detail was put in, but alas, Bay is only good with explosions. The Autobots were more entertaining. Loved Bulkhead Hound, Crosshairs and Springer Drift. They all had character and felt more attached to the bots this time around. It's a fun movie to see, but I would not go as far as to call it a masterpiece. TF5 looks promising and hope it's done right. No "liquid transformation" on the next round please...
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction Makes $41.6 Mln Opening, $80mln Internationally (1586557)
Posted by Burn on June 29th, 2014 @ 4:31am CDT
Posted by Burn on June 29th, 2014 @ 4:31am CDT
MegaDump wrote:This pains me greatly. It all but guarantees a continuation of the Bayverse crap-fest into perpetuity.
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction Makes $41.6 Mln Opening, $80mln Internationally (1586558)
Posted by Devastated on June 29th, 2014 @ 4:31am CDT
Posted by Devastated on June 29th, 2014 @ 4:31am CDT
This is my first post in these forums. I enjoyed the movie it was a bit long and I also hated the liquid transformation as well. I'll watch these transformer movies always but after 4 movies 7 years and Megatron/Galvatron not being able to transform into a gun but Lockdown maybe 10-15 min after walking on to the set already has a gun form 
Lockdown was bad ass tho haha
Lockdown was bad ass tho haha
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction Makes $41.6 Mln Opening, $80mln Internationally (1586559)
Posted by Devastated on June 29th, 2014 @ 4:34am CDT
Posted by Devastated on June 29th, 2014 @ 4:34am CDT
does anyone know where I can get that ringtone from the movie? It's a ring tone of the g1 transformers transition screen
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction Makes $41.6 Mln Opening, $80mln Internationally (1586564)
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 29th, 2014 @ 5:18am CDT
Most superheroes movies though don't have a large cast that eat up all the effect budget, even in the avengers, only two heroes out of the six needed heavy special effects to portray them. This is the drawback of live action. The transformer movies I hear people wanting time and time again would have to be totally CGI, which I'm guessing is a route they don't want to go down (except for tv for a strange reason). Live action works for them and whatever vision they have.
As for wanting more...The problem is no one can agree on what that 'more' is. Plus end of the day what does it matter really? The film has still performed really well, well enough to get tf 5 and 6 greenlit probably. They are just movies at the end of the day, they are hardly going to ruin the franchise.
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 29th, 2014 @ 5:18am CDT
Shuttershock wrote: And what truly baffles me is that the Transformers franchise has to put up with this treatment. Consider this: if a superhero movie took drastic amounts of time away from the titular character to focus on uninteresting rehashed side characters, you'd hate that movie as a poor adaptation. But we have to put up with what I call the "Godzilla Syndrome" because our superheroes, now with 30 years of history and lineage to their names, just happen to be originally be based on a toyline? Is it because they don't think they can write alien robots as convincing characters, or that they don't want to try?
Either way, why do we have to grit our teeth and bear the fact that the most public branch of one of our favorite franchises, the one that likely dictates said brand's future, is at best just "okay" and at worst a tedious, unpleasant, poorly-written slog that shows no interest in changing or adapting? I'm not saying that we DESERVE more, but shouldn't we WANT more?
Most superheroes movies though don't have a large cast that eat up all the effect budget, even in the avengers, only two heroes out of the six needed heavy special effects to portray them. This is the drawback of live action. The transformer movies I hear people wanting time and time again would have to be totally CGI, which I'm guessing is a route they don't want to go down (except for tv for a strange reason). Live action works for them and whatever vision they have.
As for wanting more...The problem is no one can agree on what that 'more' is. Plus end of the day what does it matter really? The film has still performed really well, well enough to get tf 5 and 6 greenlit probably. They are just movies at the end of the day, they are hardly going to ruin the franchise.
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Posted by SlyTF1 on June 29th, 2014 @ 7:34am CDT
Posted by SlyTF1 on June 29th, 2014 @ 7:34am CDT
Good.
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Posted by Fox Thiagarajan on June 29th, 2014 @ 7:42am CDT
Couldn't agree more. I loved this movie.
Posted by Fox Thiagarajan on June 29th, 2014 @ 7:42am CDT
Burn wrote:Why do people waste time with reviews? Why not just go and see the movie and form your own decision instead of relying on the opinions of others to decide what you may or may not like?
Couldn't agree more. I loved this movie.
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Posted by Skywarp64 on June 29th, 2014 @ 7:57am CDT
Posted by Skywarp64 on June 29th, 2014 @ 7:57am CDT
Anyone else REALLY pissed off at how Galvatron was handled in this movie?
I mean, it just felt like such a missed opportunity to me. You had Frank Welker and Peter Cullen in the same recording studio once more and they barely get to have any banter. They only meet face to face once and Galvy only gets to say one line during that one, brief meeting.
And I know Lockdown is cool, but IMO he had no right to upstage the Lord of Decepticons like that.
I mean, it just felt like such a missed opportunity to me. You had Frank Welker and Peter Cullen in the same recording studio once more and they barely get to have any banter. They only meet face to face once and Galvy only gets to say one line during that one, brief meeting.
And I know Lockdown is cool, but IMO he had no right to upstage the Lord of Decepticons like that.
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Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 29th, 2014 @ 8:01am CDT
I didn't like the "transformation" but I think they started well with the "new" Galvatron character. He wasn't the main bad guy, but was given a mostly solid foundation for his return in the next film. This was Lockdown's 15 minutes, but Galvatron is here to stay until the end, IMO.
I was thinking about this at work, and given his new awesome truck mode, I really hope in the next film they give him a trailer with which he can combine. THAT would be a badass Galvatron.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 29th, 2014 @ 8:01am CDT
Skywarp64 wrote:Anyone else REALLY pissed off at how Galvatron was handled in this movie?
I didn't like the "transformation" but I think they started well with the "new" Galvatron character. He wasn't the main bad guy, but was given a mostly solid foundation for his return in the next film. This was Lockdown's 15 minutes, but Galvatron is here to stay until the end, IMO.
I was thinking about this at work, and given his new awesome truck mode, I really hope in the next film they give him a trailer with which he can combine. THAT would be a badass Galvatron.
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Posted by Skywarp64 on June 29th, 2014 @ 8:04am CDT
More like Lockdown's hour or so, Galvatron's 10 or so minutes, 2 or 3 lines.
No, that would be a badass Motormaster. Galvatron shouldn't be copycatting Optimus, that's not only Motormaster's job but also a bit of a cliché in films right now. I for one am sick and tired of villains being just bigger, stronger versions of the heroes.
Posted by Skywarp64 on June 29th, 2014 @ 8:04am CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:This was Lockdown's 15 minutes
More like Lockdown's hour or so, Galvatron's 10 or so minutes, 2 or 3 lines.
Rodimus Prime wrote:and given his new awesome truck mode, I really hope in the next film they give him a trailer with which he can combine. THAT would be a badass Galvatron.
No, that would be a badass Motormaster. Galvatron shouldn't be copycatting Optimus, that's not only Motormaster's job but also a bit of a cliché in films right now. I for one am sick and tired of villains being just bigger, stronger versions of the heroes.
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Posted by SlyTF1 on June 29th, 2014 @ 8:08am CDT
I thought he was the most badass character in the movie, besides Optimus. Lockdown was badass too, but I was expecting that from him. But Galvatron, I wasn't expecting him to do much of anything.
Posted by SlyTF1 on June 29th, 2014 @ 8:08am CDT
Skywarp64 wrote:Anyone else REALLY pissed off at how Galvatron was handled in this movie?
I thought he was the most badass character in the movie, besides Optimus. Lockdown was badass too, but I was expecting that from him. But Galvatron, I wasn't expecting him to do much of anything.
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Posted by Skywarp64 on June 29th, 2014 @ 8:10am CDT
And he didn't. He had 2 or 3 lines, he complained about how the Autobots were ruining everything, then just gave up, saying "Eh, I'll get you later".
Posted by Skywarp64 on June 29th, 2014 @ 8:10am CDT
SlyTF1 wrote:But Galvatron, I wasn't expecting him to do much of anything.
And he didn't. He had 2 or 3 lines, he complained about how the Autobots were ruining everything, then just gave up, saying "Eh, I'll get you later".
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Posted by SlyTF1 on June 29th, 2014 @ 8:25am CDT
He started the entire uprising and gave a speech.
Posted by SlyTF1 on June 29th, 2014 @ 8:25am CDT
Skywarp64 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:But Galvatron, I wasn't expecting him to do much of anything.
And he didn't. He had 2 or 3 lines, he complained about how the Autobots were ruining everything, then just gave up, saying "Eh, I'll get you later".
He started the entire uprising and gave a speech.
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Posted by BumbleDouche on June 29th, 2014 @ 8:38am CDT
You're my new best friend lol. What really made me lose all hope for humanity was hearing people in the cinema actually laugh at some of the attempts at humour in this film. It's honestly getting embarrassing telling people I'm a Transformers fan because they immediately relate it back to these films. I've not been a "ruined forever" type in the past, but these movies really pain me. And yes, to the other poster, I HAVE gone through several boxes of Kleenex, wiping away tears lol.
Posted by BumbleDouche on June 29th, 2014 @ 8:38am CDT
Shuttershock wrote:Much like a new coat of paint only hides the structural flaws of a poorly built building, AoE is for the most part just a facelift. We've got a slightly better pedigree in terms of cast, but they're still forced to act like blithering incompetents when the slag hits the fan. The terrible script is still there, the terrible editing is still there, and the terrible plot holes are still there.
What little structure/plot the last films had to push them to their conclusions doesn't exist here. We have no feel for the stakes or any sense of urgency, so the movie feels nightmarishly long and I found myself being bored and just wanting it to end. And by that point, every tedious moment of forced comedy and bad editing did nothing but generate ill will for the movie as a whole, even the parts that I had been okay with previously.
I'll be honest, I was liking the first third of the movie, which was paced soberly, took time to set things up and, frankly, tricked you into thinking themes and attitudes had been overhauled. The worst I thought we'd have to weather was T.J. Miller being a douchebag and Mark Wahlberg being a tired stereotype of a "protective dad". I am now firmly convinced that this segment was directed by a second unit, because by the second act, we loose all focus, all subtlety, and crank the stereotype generator on full blast.
More than anything else, the writers, producers and directors STILL haven't learned that we'd much rather see a story with the Transformers as the stars, and adding big names like Wahlberg, Tucci and Grammer aren't helping that matter. Wahlberg is a good action star, but this is not HIS action movie. And what truly baffles me is that the Transformers franchise has to put up with this treatment. Consider this: if a superhero movie took drastic amounts of time away from the titular character to focus on uninteresting rehashed side characters, you'd hate that movie as a poor adaptation. But we have to put up with what I call the "Godzilla Syndrome" because our superheroes, now with 30 years of history and lineage to their names, just happen to be originally be based on a toyline? Is it because they don't think they can write alien robots as convincing characters, or that they don't want to try?
Either way, why do we have to grit our teeth and bear the fact that the most public branch of one of our favorite franchises, the one that likely dictates said brand's future, is at best just "okay" and at worst a tedious, unpleasant, poorly-written slog that shows no interest in changing or adapting? I'm not saying that we DESERVE more, but shouldn't we WANT more?
You're my new best friend lol. What really made me lose all hope for humanity was hearing people in the cinema actually laugh at some of the attempts at humour in this film. It's honestly getting embarrassing telling people I'm a Transformers fan because they immediately relate it back to these films. I've not been a "ruined forever" type in the past, but these movies really pain me. And yes, to the other poster, I HAVE gone through several boxes of Kleenex, wiping away tears lol.
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Posted by Skywarp64 on June 29th, 2014 @ 8:48am CDT
As I recall, that "uprising" was crushed within minutes.
Megatron's always been a joke in Bay's films and, frankly, I'm sick of it.
First he was a terrible pilot who crashed in the arctic where he was stuck for literally thousands of years, including most of the first movie until the last 25 minutes or so.
Then, he willingly debased himself before The Fallen.
Then, he was a total wuss who pretty much handed his command over to Sentinel and put up no fight whatsoever when Optimus attacked him.
Now, he's a whiny bitch who, apart from the part you mentioned, does little more than complain about how the Autobots are ruining everything, never actually confronting said Autobots to DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, then just sort of walking away, figuring "eh, I'll get you later".
It's high time Bay realized that ending a film like this DOES NOT guarantee a sequel, so Galvatron should get to have his moment now. You can't count on another movie being released to save his shining moment for.
Posted by Skywarp64 on June 29th, 2014 @ 8:48am CDT
SlyTF1 wrote:Skywarp64 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:But Galvatron, I wasn't expecting him to do much of anything.
And he didn't. He had 2 or 3 lines, he complained about how the Autobots were ruining everything, then just gave up, saying "Eh, I'll get you later".
He started the entire uprising and gave a speech.
As I recall, that "uprising" was crushed within minutes.
Megatron's always been a joke in Bay's films and, frankly, I'm sick of it.
First he was a terrible pilot who crashed in the arctic where he was stuck for literally thousands of years, including most of the first movie until the last 25 minutes or so.
Then, he willingly debased himself before The Fallen.
Then, he was a total wuss who pretty much handed his command over to Sentinel and put up no fight whatsoever when Optimus attacked him.
Now, he's a whiny bitch who, apart from the part you mentioned, does little more than complain about how the Autobots are ruining everything, never actually confronting said Autobots to DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, then just sort of walking away, figuring "eh, I'll get you later".
It's high time Bay realized that ending a film like this DOES NOT guarantee a sequel, so Galvatron should get to have his moment now. You can't count on another movie being released to save his shining moment for.
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Posted by ZeroWolf on June 29th, 2014 @ 10:49am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 29th, 2014 @ 10:49am CDT
Okay a few things to consider.
In the first film it said that Megatron crashed because of the earths magnetic field, not bad piloting.
Second film, Megatron was the Fallens student, as explored in the prequel comics.
Megs only lost in DOTM because of all the damage that hadn't healed since the finale of the second movie. He wasn't 100%.
In the first film it said that Megatron crashed because of the earths magnetic field, not bad piloting.
Second film, Megatron was the Fallens student, as explored in the prequel comics.
Megs only lost in DOTM because of all the damage that hadn't healed since the finale of the second movie. He wasn't 100%.
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Posted by TurboMMaster on June 29th, 2014 @ 11:20am CDT
Posted by TurboMMaster on June 29th, 2014 @ 11:20am CDT
I feel your pain, bro. Like I said beofre, it is strange that he dosen't do anything personaly to stop Autobots, witch is odd. Beign one of the most powerfull Decepticon Warriors, tha already proved that is a challenge for entire Autobot Team at once, whe should try to stop them by ripping dinobots appart. Especially now, when his power make him virtually invincible.Skywarp64 wrote:I mean, it just felt like such a missed opportunity to me. You had Frank Welker and Peter Cullen in the same recording studio once more and they barely get to have any banter. They only meet face to face once and Galvy only gets to say one line during that one, brief meeting.
That is just a plot exucse to introduce Witwicky's family and expailning why human weapons is so effective. It' dosen't even metter in long term for Megatron's fate.Skywarp64 wrote:First he was a terrible pilot who crashed in the arctic where he was stuck for literally thousands of years, including most of the first movie until the last 25 minutes or so.
So sad that he didn't do anything amazing later.SlyTF1 wrote:He started the entire uprising and gave a speech.
I'm not sure is he should be consider stronger than his First Version movie.SlyTF1 wrote:I thought he was the most badass character in the movie, besides Optimus
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Posted by prowl123 on June 29th, 2014 @ 12:59pm CDT
Posted by prowl123 on June 29th, 2014 @ 12:59pm CDT
Wow it's been a while since I've been on here, so here's my two cents: LOVED the movie, probably my favorite of the series so far. I have a few little gripes of course, but who doesn't? SPOILERS of course
The Bots:
Holy crap, what happened to Optimus? AOE's Optimus Prime is EXTREMELY pissy and dark. He threatens to kill humans several times throughout the movie and doesn't seem to regret it whatsoever. The emotion is actually very real, which surprises me. AOE is the first Bayverse movie where any serious emotion has come from Optimus to the point where I actually feel for him.
Lockdown was cool, but not really developed well. I feel like if anybody going into this movie with no knowledge of TF or who Lockdown really is will be kind of confused by him. Galvatron kind of sucked, the only reason being that he had like 3 lines and maybe a minute total of screen time. We should be seeing more of in the next two movies though, so I'm not mad about it. No Starscream at all! Not even a cameo! There were a few two-headed Shockwave clones but no Starscream? I call BS.
I really loved Hound and Crosshairs. "My fat ass is stuck!" I also loved how they diminished Bee's role a bit so he's not the centerpiece of the damn movie this time around. Drift however was just plain dumb-looking. He was a triple changer with no explanation whatsoever, which once again, would confuse the hell out of anybody watching with no knowledge of TF.
The Humans
It may have taken 3 movies, but Bay finally got the humans right. There wasn't any useless drama bull crap, none of the characters felt really fake and acted, and most importantly, they didn't have more screen time than the Bots.
I was actually shocked by the humans a few times. The human villains were actually a lot more menacing than the Decepticons, and I recall actually yelling "Die bitch!" when Marky Mark threw that one asshat out the window. The human villains were fantastic and really done right this time around. Think what's-his-name from DOTM but better.
I was also shocked when they killed Lucas. To my knowledge this is the first time they've ever killed a human protagonist in the movies. I'm kind upset that they did it because he was such a cool character, but his death really set a tone for the rest of the movie.
The one place the human characters fall short is Stanley Tucci's character. He started off as all dark and calculating and shit, but once Lucas died, they decided to give him a 180 personality and turn him into the comic relief. His "get the fuck out of the way" line was hysterical (I laughed for a good minute), but his comedic side was really unnecessary because Hound was around as well.
Plot
I have nothing to say other than it was a good plot. Not DOTM level good in terms of complexity, but good.
Gripes
WAYYYYYY too long. It was like 2hrs 40 minutes and I was just sitting there towards the end thinking "When will this be over??" The end battle was dragged out a bit too long. Not Man of Steel level dragged out, but pretty close.
The Dinobots. They were only in the movie for like 20 minutes right at the end. To be completely honest, I feel like Bay shouldn't have even introduced them and used the extra time to develop Lockdown a bit more. The explanation as to why they transformed into dinosaurs was very shady and not explained well. I of course understood it, but once again, if a viewer had no knowledge of TF, they would have been very confused.
Lockdown was underdeveloped. We're told he's a bounty hunter working for the CIA under a contract stating he gets to take Optimus Prime alive and give humans a Seed in return. We never really get an explanation of his character though. I feel like he would have been a much better villain if we had gotten an explanation about him from Optimus like he explained who Megatron was in TF1.
Galvatron. Built by humans from Megatron's remains? Uh... no. I don't like that at all. If he was supposed to be based on Optimus Prime, then they should've just made it Nemisis Prime. The tractor trailer fits Nemisis perfectly, and they could have shortened the movie a little bit by not trying to introduce Galvatron. His transformation animation was absolutely epic with the cube cloud shit going on, but I really don't like the fact that humans did it. They could have alluded to Unicron's existence much more heavily if they had done something else.
Conclusion
It was an awesome movie, worth the money, wait, and time to watch. Awesome setup for a new trilogy, I hope Bay stays with it for the next 2.
The Bots:
Holy crap, what happened to Optimus? AOE's Optimus Prime is EXTREMELY pissy and dark. He threatens to kill humans several times throughout the movie and doesn't seem to regret it whatsoever. The emotion is actually very real, which surprises me. AOE is the first Bayverse movie where any serious emotion has come from Optimus to the point where I actually feel for him.
Lockdown was cool, but not really developed well. I feel like if anybody going into this movie with no knowledge of TF or who Lockdown really is will be kind of confused by him. Galvatron kind of sucked, the only reason being that he had like 3 lines and maybe a minute total of screen time. We should be seeing more of in the next two movies though, so I'm not mad about it. No Starscream at all! Not even a cameo! There were a few two-headed Shockwave clones but no Starscream? I call BS.
I really loved Hound and Crosshairs. "My fat ass is stuck!" I also loved how they diminished Bee's role a bit so he's not the centerpiece of the damn movie this time around. Drift however was just plain dumb-looking. He was a triple changer with no explanation whatsoever, which once again, would confuse the hell out of anybody watching with no knowledge of TF.
The Humans
It may have taken 3 movies, but Bay finally got the humans right. There wasn't any useless drama bull crap, none of the characters felt really fake and acted, and most importantly, they didn't have more screen time than the Bots.
I was actually shocked by the humans a few times. The human villains were actually a lot more menacing than the Decepticons, and I recall actually yelling "Die bitch!" when Marky Mark threw that one asshat out the window. The human villains were fantastic and really done right this time around. Think what's-his-name from DOTM but better.
I was also shocked when they killed Lucas. To my knowledge this is the first time they've ever killed a human protagonist in the movies. I'm kind upset that they did it because he was such a cool character, but his death really set a tone for the rest of the movie.
The one place the human characters fall short is Stanley Tucci's character. He started off as all dark and calculating and shit, but once Lucas died, they decided to give him a 180 personality and turn him into the comic relief. His "get the fuck out of the way" line was hysterical (I laughed for a good minute), but his comedic side was really unnecessary because Hound was around as well.
Plot
I have nothing to say other than it was a good plot. Not DOTM level good in terms of complexity, but good.
Gripes
WAYYYYYY too long. It was like 2hrs 40 minutes and I was just sitting there towards the end thinking "When will this be over??" The end battle was dragged out a bit too long. Not Man of Steel level dragged out, but pretty close.
The Dinobots. They were only in the movie for like 20 minutes right at the end. To be completely honest, I feel like Bay shouldn't have even introduced them and used the extra time to develop Lockdown a bit more. The explanation as to why they transformed into dinosaurs was very shady and not explained well. I of course understood it, but once again, if a viewer had no knowledge of TF, they would have been very confused.
Lockdown was underdeveloped. We're told he's a bounty hunter working for the CIA under a contract stating he gets to take Optimus Prime alive and give humans a Seed in return. We never really get an explanation of his character though. I feel like he would have been a much better villain if we had gotten an explanation about him from Optimus like he explained who Megatron was in TF1.
Galvatron. Built by humans from Megatron's remains? Uh... no. I don't like that at all. If he was supposed to be based on Optimus Prime, then they should've just made it Nemisis Prime. The tractor trailer fits Nemisis perfectly, and they could have shortened the movie a little bit by not trying to introduce Galvatron. His transformation animation was absolutely epic with the cube cloud shit going on, but I really don't like the fact that humans did it. They could have alluded to Unicron's existence much more heavily if they had done something else.
Conclusion
It was an awesome movie, worth the money, wait, and time to watch. Awesome setup for a new trilogy, I hope Bay stays with it for the next 2.
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Posted by Adimus Prime on June 29th, 2014 @ 1:19pm CDT
Posted by Adimus Prime on June 29th, 2014 @ 1:19pm CDT
This movie was the best one yet. Yes, It's a Bay flick, so there were things I hated about it. But overall it was a big improvement. Why all of the sudden these new Autobots just appear no one knows. Why the humans would go ahead building Galvatron when obviously Megatron was taking over makes no sense. Why Bumblebee is even more immature, anyone's guess. What happened to Sam and his fam? What happened to Ratchet's spark? What happened to Lockdown's ship at the end? Where is Barricade? What happened to then hatchlings? What were those swords about a the end when Prime grabbed one and turned into a knight? Why does Prime suddenly have jet thrusters? Why was Prime about to scan a truck, turn into a different, brand new truck and be fully repaired all of the sudden? Why don't any of the Autobots even care about human life? What happened to Prime's motto, "Freedom is the right of all sentient beings?" He obviously no longer cares about the humans safety. Why did Prime leave the Bots on earth at the end? Why does Galvatron have no spark? Who were Lockdown's compatriots. Anyhow. theose were my initial questions.
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Posted by ZeroWolf on June 29th, 2014 @ 1:27pm CDT
I think a number of these questions have bbeen answered in other posts in this thread. Especially the ones regarding Prime and Lockdown's ship.
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 29th, 2014 @ 1:27pm CDT
Adimus Prime wrote:This movie was the best one yet. Yes, It's a Bay flick, so there were things I hated about it. But overall it was a big improvement. Why all of the sudden these new Autobots just appear no one knows. Why the humans would go ahead building Galvatron when obviously Megatron was taking over makes no sense. Why Bumblebee is even more immature, anyone's guess. What happened to Sam and his fam? What happened to Ratchet's spark? What happened to Lockdown's ship at the end? Where is Barricade? What happened to then hatchlings? What were those swords about a the end when Prime grabbed one and turned into a knight? Why does Prime suddenly have jet thrusters? Why was Prime about to scan a truck, turn into a different, brand new truck and be fully repaired all of the sudden? Why don't any of the Autobots even care about human life? What happened to Prime's motto, "Freedom is the right of all sentient beings?" He obviously no longer cares about the humans safety. Why did Prime leave the Bots on earth at the end? Why does Galvatron have no spark? Who were Lockdown's compatriots. Anyhow. theose were my initial questions.
I think a number of these questions have bbeen answered in other posts in this thread. Especially the ones regarding Prime and Lockdown's ship.
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Posted by Gallifreyan Autobot on June 29th, 2014 @ 1:29pm CDT
Posted by Gallifreyan Autobot on June 29th, 2014 @ 1:29pm CDT
This movie in opinion was honestly better than the first three Mark was made yo be in this movie I would give it a 4.67 stars apparently there might be a reference to COBRA VIA TATTOO. It would kind of make since since cobra had taken over the Capitol building placing this sometime before retaliation and after DOTM or a possible crossover 
Good with a large cup of Dr pepper at the Fremont Nebraska theater
Good with a large cup of Dr pepper at the Fremont Nebraska theater
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Posted by dreadwing95 on June 29th, 2014 @ 1:42pm CDT
Posted by dreadwing95 on June 29th, 2014 @ 1:42pm CDT
[/quote] I feel your pain, bro. Like I said beofre, it is strange that he dosen't do anything personaly to stop Autobots, witch is odd. Beign one of the most powerfull Decepticon Warriors, tha already proved that is a challenge for entire Autobot Team at once, whe should try to stop them by ripping dinobots appart. Especially now, when his power make him virtually invincible.
well to be honest if i were living as a head for several years and just got my body back i wouldnt be in too much of a hurry to lose it again. im glad he survived though. hopefully next movie we can actually see him in action and prove that he is actually competent lol
well to be honest if i were living as a head for several years and just got my body back i wouldnt be in too much of a hurry to lose it again. im glad he survived though. hopefully next movie we can actually see him in action and prove that he is actually competent lol
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Posted by Janus Prime on June 29th, 2014 @ 2:00pm CDT
Posted by Janus Prime on June 29th, 2014 @ 2:00pm CDT
80 instead of 100, the begining of the end.
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Posted by SlyTF1 on June 29th, 2014 @ 2:10pm CDT
He was a joke in G1. What's changed?
Posted by SlyTF1 on June 29th, 2014 @ 2:10pm CDT
Skywarp64 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Skywarp64 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:But Galvatron, I wasn't expecting him to do much of anything.
And he didn't. He had 2 or 3 lines, he complained about how the Autobots were ruining everything, then just gave up, saying "Eh, I'll get you later".
He started the entire uprising and gave a speech.
As I recall, that "uprising" was crushed within minutes.
Megatron's always been a joke in Bay's films and, frankly, I'm sick of it.
First he was a terrible pilot who crashed in the arctic where he was stuck for literally thousands of years, including most of the first movie until the last 25 minutes or so.
Then, he willingly debased himself before The Fallen.
Then, he was a total wuss who pretty much handed his command over to Sentinel and put up no fight whatsoever when Optimus attacked him.
Now, he's a whiny bitch who, apart from the part you mentioned, does little more than complain about how the Autobots are ruining everything, never actually confronting said Autobots to DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, then just sort of walking away, figuring "eh, I'll get you later".
It's high time Bay realized that ending a film like this DOES NOT guarantee a sequel, so Galvatron should get to have his moment now. You can't count on another movie being released to save his shining moment for.
He was a joke in G1. What's changed?
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Posted by SlyTF1 on June 29th, 2014 @ 2:33pm CDT
Megatron wasn't "obviously" doing anything.
Sam and his family probably got slaughtered by the humans. I hope so.
Where is Barricade? He got killed in DOTM. Did you not watch the movie?
The hatchlings were probably killed by the humans.
Lockdown took Ratchet's spark.
Galvatron and his minions took Lockdown's ship.
Why should the Autobots care about human life? The humans were trying to kill them, and experimenting on their corpses.
And about Optimus's motto, it's like Lockdown said; when you have that kind of loyalty to a cause or an idea, that cause will always betray you.
Optimus left Earth because he endangered the rest of the Autbots and the world by staying there.
Galvatron has no spark because the humans created him.
Lockdown's dudes are Cybertronian mercenaries.
Posted by SlyTF1 on June 29th, 2014 @ 2:33pm CDT
Adimus Prime wrote:This movie was the best one yet. Yes, It's a Bay flick, so there were things I hated about it. But overall it was a big improvement. Why all of the sudden these new Autobots just appear no one knows. Why the humans would go ahead building Galvatron when obviously Megatron was taking over makes no sense. Why Bumblebee is even more immature, anyone's guess. What happened to Sam and his fam? What happened to Ratchet's spark? What happened to Lockdown's ship at the end? Where is Barricade? What happened to then hatchlings? What were those swords about a the end when Prime grabbed one and turned into a knight? Why does Prime suddenly have jet thrusters? Why was Prime about to scan a truck, turn into a different, brand new truck and be fully repaired all of the sudden? Why don't any of the Autobots even care about human life? What happened to Prime's motto, "Freedom is the right of all sentient beings?" He obviously no longer cares about the humans safety. Why did Prime leave the Bots on earth at the end? Why does Galvatron have no spark? Who were Lockdown's compatriots. Anyhow. theose were my initial questions.
Megatron wasn't "obviously" doing anything.
Sam and his family probably got slaughtered by the humans. I hope so.
Where is Barricade? He got killed in DOTM. Did you not watch the movie?
The hatchlings were probably killed by the humans.
Lockdown took Ratchet's spark.
Galvatron and his minions took Lockdown's ship.
Why should the Autobots care about human life? The humans were trying to kill them, and experimenting on their corpses.
And about Optimus's motto, it's like Lockdown said; when you have that kind of loyalty to a cause or an idea, that cause will always betray you.
Optimus left Earth because he endangered the rest of the Autbots and the world by staying there.
Galvatron has no spark because the humans created him.
Lockdown's dudes are Cybertronian mercenaries.
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Posted by Gallifreyan Autobot on June 29th, 2014 @ 2:46pm CDT
He in the animated film was close to epic after with him all wonko post movie he went downhill with cyclonus being a better leader ... >:oP
Posted by Gallifreyan Autobot on June 29th, 2014 @ 2:46pm CDT
SlyTF1 wrote:Skywarp64 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Skywarp64 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:But Galvatron, I wasn't expecting him to do much of anything.
And he didn't. He had 2 or 3 lines, he complained about how the Autobots were ruining everything, then just gave up, saying "Eh, I'll get you later".
He started the entire uprising and gave a speech.
As I recall, that "uprising" was crushed within minutes.
Megatron's always been a fucking joke in Bay's films and, frankly, I'm sick of it.
First he was a terrible pilot who crashed in the arctic where he was stuck for literally thousands of years, including most of the first movie until the last 25 minutes or so.
Then, he willingly debased himself before The Fallen.
Then, he was a total wuss who pretty much handed his command over to Sentinel and put up no fight whatsoever when Optimus attacked him.
Now, he's a whiny bitch who, apart from the part you mentioned, does little more than complain about how the Autobots are ruining everything, never actually confronting said Autobots to DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, then just sort of walking away, figuring "eh, I'll get you later".
It's high time Bay realized that ending a film like this DOES NOT guarantee a sequel, so Galvatron should get to have his moment now. You can't count on another movie being released to save his shining moment for.
He was a joke in G1. What's changed?
He in the animated film was close to epic after with him all wonko post movie he went downhill with cyclonus being a better leader ... >:oP
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Posted by VirusCarnage on June 29th, 2014 @ 2:50pm CDT
Posted by VirusCarnage on June 29th, 2014 @ 2:50pm CDT
Just got back from watching the movie. I loved it, enjoyed every second of it. I really enjoyed Optimus wielding a Great-sword one handed on Grimlock. My only complaint is the whole creators thing, I thought that the all spark was the source of cybertronians in the movie universe. I feel like this is the best TF movie, the ending was so satisfying as well.
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Posted by Shuttershock on June 29th, 2014 @ 2:58pm CDT
I think the point the original poster was trying to make is that we had to infer answers to all of the above plot holes, because the movie was lacking scenes to provide any context for what was happening. Now I'm not saying that you're answers were wrong or that all movies have to spell out everything, but I think a movie's story should have better quality control than that.
Forgetting that it's a Transformer movie, a Michael Bay Transformer movie, it's still a huge budget mainstream blockbuster movie that a lot of people put time and effort into. Shouldn't the script quality be better than that in terms of loose ends, pacing and characterization?
Posted by Shuttershock on June 29th, 2014 @ 2:58pm CDT
SlyTF1 wrote:Adimus Prime wrote:This movie was the best one yet. Yes, It's a Bay flick, so there were things I hated about it. But overall it was a big improvement. Why all of the sudden these new Autobots just appear no one knows. Why the humans would go ahead building Galvatron when obviously Megatron was taking over makes no sense. Why Bumblebee is even more immature, anyone's guess. What happened to Sam and his fam? What happened to Ratchet's spark? What happened to Lockdown's ship at the end? Where is Barricade? What happened to then hatchlings? What were those swords about a the end when Prime grabbed one and turned into a knight? Why does Prime suddenly have jet thrusters? Why was Prime about to scan a truck, turn into a different, brand new truck and be fully repaired all of the sudden? Why don't any of the Autobots even care about human life? What happened to Prime's motto, "Freedom is the right of all sentient beings?" He obviously no longer cares about the humans safety. Why did Prime leave the Bots on earth at the end? Why does Galvatron have no spark? Who were Lockdown's compatriots. Anyhow. theose were my initial questions.
Megatron wasn't "obviously" doing anything.
Sam and his family probably got slaughtered by the humans. I hope so.
Where is Barricade? He got killed in DOTM. Did you not watch the movie?
The hatchlings were probably killed by the humans.
Lockdown took Ratchet's spark.
Galvatron and his minions took Lockdown's ship.
Why should the Autobots care about human life? The humans were trying to kill them, and experimenting on their corpses.
And about Optimus's motto, it's like Lockdown said; when you have that kind of loyalty to a cause or an idea, that cause will always betray you.
Optimus left Earth because he endangered the rest of the Autbots and the world by staying there.
Galvatron has no spark because the humans created him.
Lockdown's dudes are Cybertronian mercenaries.
I think the point the original poster was trying to make is that we had to infer answers to all of the above plot holes, because the movie was lacking scenes to provide any context for what was happening. Now I'm not saying that you're answers were wrong or that all movies have to spell out everything, but I think a movie's story should have better quality control than that.
Forgetting that it's a Transformer movie, a Michael Bay Transformer movie, it's still a huge budget mainstream blockbuster movie that a lot of people put time and effort into. Shouldn't the script quality be better than that in terms of loose ends, pacing and characterization?
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Posted by SlyTF1 on June 29th, 2014 @ 3:02pm CDT
I like the TF movies because they DON'T explain everything. That's why I get so pissed when people say you have to turn off your brain to enjoy these movies. You really don't. You understand the movie more if you actually pay attention and think about things instead of taking everything the movie says at face value, without going any deeper.
Posted by SlyTF1 on June 29th, 2014 @ 3:02pm CDT
Shuttershock wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Adimus Prime wrote:This movie was the best one yet. Yes, It's a Bay flick, so there were things I hated about it. But overall it was a big improvement. Why all of the sudden these new Autobots just appear no one knows. Why the humans would go ahead building Galvatron when obviously Megatron was taking over makes no sense. Why Bumblebee is even more immature, anyone's guess. What happened to Sam and his fam? What happened to Ratchet's spark? What happened to Lockdown's ship at the end? Where is Barricade? What happened to then hatchlings? What were those swords about a the end when Prime grabbed one and turned into a knight? Why does Prime suddenly have jet thrusters? Why was Prime about to scan a truck, turn into a different, brand new truck and be fully repaired all of the sudden? Why don't any of the Autobots even care about human life? What happened to Prime's motto, "Freedom is the right of all sentient beings?" He obviously no longer cares about the humans safety. Why did Prime leave the Bots on earth at the end? Why does Galvatron have no spark? Who were Lockdown's compatriots. Anyhow. theose were my initial questions.
Megatron wasn't "obviously" doing anything.
Sam and his family probably got slaughtered by the humans. I hope so.
Where is Barricade? He got killed in DOTM. Did you not watch the movie?
The hatchlings were probably killed by the humans.
Lockdown took Ratchet's spark.
Galvatron and his minions took Lockdown's ship.
Why should the Autobots care about human life? The humans were trying to kill them, and experimenting on their corpses.
And about Optimus's motto, it's like Lockdown said; when you have that kind of loyalty to a cause or an idea, that cause will always betray you.
Optimus left Earth because he endangered the rest of the Autbots and the world by staying there.
Galvatron has no spark because the humans created him.
Lockdown's dudes are Cybertronian mercenaries.
I think the point the original poster was trying to make is that we had to infer answers to all of the above plot holes, because the movie was lacking scenes to provide any context for what was happening. Now I'm not saying that you're answers were wrong or that all movies have to spell out everything, but I think a movie's story should have better quality control than that.
Forgetting that it's a Transformer movie, a Michael Bay Transformer movie, it's still a huge budget mainstream blockbuster movie that a lot of people put time and effort into. Shouldn't the script quality be better than that in terms of loose ends, pacing and characterization?
I like the TF movies because they DON'T explain everything. That's why I get so pissed when people say you have to turn off your brain to enjoy these movies. You really don't. You understand the movie more if you actually pay attention and think about things instead of taking everything the movie says at face value, without going any deeper.
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Posted by Shuttershock on June 29th, 2014 @ 3:27pm CDT
Oh trust me, I hate the "turn off your brain" argument as much as any. Story should be an important factor in whatever movie you make, and it's not like a movie about alien robots from another planet is a brain-dead concept with no deeper merit or potential for compelling stories.
I just hate deliberately withholding information, major or minor, with the promise that it'll all make sense if you read the tie-in comics or watch the sequels. Much like Prometheus, I dislike when you ask questions or have legitimate grievances about the plot and the only response you get is "well, I guess you'll have to pay for the sequel to get any answers." That's not engaging storytelling, that's holding my interest and sense of closure hostage.
Posted by Shuttershock on June 29th, 2014 @ 3:27pm CDT
SlyTF1 wrote:Shuttershock wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Adimus Prime wrote:This movie was the best one yet. Yes, It's a Bay flick, so there were things I hated about it. But overall it was a big improvement. Why all of the sudden these new Autobots just appear no one knows. Why the humans would go ahead building Galvatron when obviously Megatron was taking over makes no sense. Why Bumblebee is even more immature, anyone's guess. What happened to Sam and his fam? What happened to Ratchet's spark? What happened to Lockdown's ship at the end? Where is Barricade? What happened to then hatchlings? What were those swords about a the end when Prime grabbed one and turned into a knight? Why does Prime suddenly have jet thrusters? Why was Prime about to scan a truck, turn into a different, brand new truck and be fully repaired all of the sudden? Why don't any of the Autobots even care about human life? What happened to Prime's motto, "Freedom is the right of all sentient beings?" He obviously no longer cares about the humans safety. Why did Prime leave the Bots on earth at the end? Why does Galvatron have no spark? Who were Lockdown's compatriots. Anyhow. theose were my initial questions.
Megatron wasn't "obviously" doing anything.
Sam and his family probably got slaughtered by the humans. I hope so.
Where is Barricade? He got killed in DOTM. Did you not watch the movie?
The hatchlings were probably killed by the humans.
Lockdown took Ratchet's spark.
Galvatron and his minions took Lockdown's ship.
Why should the Autobots care about human life? The humans were trying to kill them, and experimenting on their corpses.
And about Optimus's motto, it's like Lockdown said; when you have that kind of loyalty to a cause or an idea, that cause will always betray you.
Optimus left Earth because he endangered the rest of the Autbots and the world by staying there.
Galvatron has no spark because the humans created him.
Lockdown's dudes are Cybertronian mercenaries.
I think the point the original poster was trying to make is that we had to infer answers to all of the above plot holes, because the movie was lacking scenes to provide any context for what was happening. Now I'm not saying that you're answers were wrong or that all movies have to spell out everything, but I think a movie's story should have better quality control than that.
Forgetting that it's a Transformer movie, a Michael Bay Transformer movie, it's still a huge budget mainstream blockbuster movie that a lot of people put time and effort into. Shouldn't the script quality be better than that in terms of loose ends, pacing and characterization?
I like the TF movies because they DON'T explain everything. That's why I get so pissed when people say you have to turn off your brain to enjoy these movies. You really don't. You understand the movie more if you actually pay attention and think about things instead of taking everything the movie says at face value, without going any deeper.
Oh trust me, I hate the "turn off your brain" argument as much as any. Story should be an important factor in whatever movie you make, and it's not like a movie about alien robots from another planet is a brain-dead concept with no deeper merit or potential for compelling stories.
I just hate deliberately withholding information, major or minor, with the promise that it'll all make sense if you read the tie-in comics or watch the sequels. Much like Prometheus, I dislike when you ask questions or have legitimate grievances about the plot and the only response you get is "well, I guess you'll have to pay for the sequel to get any answers." That's not engaging storytelling, that's holding my interest and sense of closure hostage.
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Posted by Shuttershock on June 29th, 2014 @ 3:36pm CDT
Plus, a lot of time has passed since G1 and Galvatron. We've got significantly more budget going into the movies and, supposedly, the writing staff. Shouldn't we expect some kind of evolution in terms of the quality of villainy?
Since then, we've had a range of Transformers villains, from charismatic BW Megatron to noble Armada Starscream, and even those are over ten years old now. This characterization of Megatron/Galvatron is the best they can do?
Posted by Shuttershock on June 29th, 2014 @ 3:36pm CDT
Autobot tap out wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Skywarp64 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Skywarp64 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:But Galvatron, I wasn't expecting him to do much of anything.
And he didn't. He had 2 or 3 lines, he complained about how the Autobots were ruining everything, then just gave up, saying "Eh, I'll get you later".
He started the entire uprising and gave a speech.
As I recall, that "uprising" was crushed within minutes.
Megatron's always been a fucking joke in Bay's films and, frankly, I'm sick of it.
First he was a terrible pilot who crashed in the arctic where he was stuck for literally thousands of years, including most of the first movie until the last 25 minutes or so.
Then, he willingly debased himself before The Fallen.
Then, he was a total wuss who pretty much handed his command over to Sentinel and put up no fight whatsoever when Optimus attacked him.
Now, he's a whiny bitch who, apart from the part you mentioned, does little more than complain about how the Autobots are ruining everything, never actually confronting said Autobots to DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, then just sort of walking away, figuring "eh, I'll get you later".
It's high time Bay realized that ending a film like this DOES NOT guarantee a sequel, so Galvatron should get to have his moment now. You can't count on another movie being released to save his shining moment for.
He was a joke in G1. What's changed?
He in the animated film was close to epic after with him all wonko post movie he went downhill with cyclonus being a better leader ... >:oP
Plus, a lot of time has passed since G1 and Galvatron. We've got significantly more budget going into the movies and, supposedly, the writing staff. Shouldn't we expect some kind of evolution in terms of the quality of villainy?
Since then, we've had a range of Transformers villains, from charismatic BW Megatron to noble Armada Starscream, and even those are over ten years old now. This characterization of Megatron/Galvatron is the best they can do?
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Posted by It Is Him on June 29th, 2014 @ 4:00pm CDT
Posted by It Is Him on June 29th, 2014 @ 4:00pm CDT
This thread is a giant wall of text
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Posted by Gallifreyan Autobot on June 29th, 2014 @ 4:04pm CDT
I was born and raised at the end of the beast era, been through rid(I think it is boring), UT, animated , bay verse movies, prime (loooved it) and now looking back,I think that even though it is plagued with animation errors UT has a place in my heart which I started with my enjoyment of the franchise
Posted by Gallifreyan Autobot on June 29th, 2014 @ 4:04pm CDT
Shuttershock wrote:Autobot tap out wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Skywarp64 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Skywarp64 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:But Galvatron, I wasn't expecting him to do much of anything.
And he didn't. He had 2 or 3 lines, he complained about how the Autobots were ruining everything, then just gave up, saying "Eh, I'll get you later".
He started the entire uprising and gave a speech.
As I recall, that "uprising" was crushed within minutes.
Megatron's always been a fucking joke in Bay's films and, frankly, I'm sick of it.
First he was a terrible pilot who crashed in the arctic where he was stuck for literally thousands of years, including most of the first movie until the last 25 minutes or so.
Then, he willingly debased himself before The Fallen.
Then, he was a total wuss who pretty much handed his command over to Sentinel and put up no fight whatsoever when Optimus attacked him.
Now, he's a whiny bitch who, apart from the part you mentioned, does little more than complain about how the Autobots are ruining everything, never actually confronting said Autobots to DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, then just sort of walking away, figuring "eh, I'll get you later".
It's high time Bay realized that ending a film like this DOES NOT guarantee a sequel, so Galvatron should get to have his moment now. You can't count on another movie being released to save his shining moment for.
He was a joke in G1. What's changed?
He in the animated film was close to epic after with him all wonko post movie he went downhill with cyclonus being a better leader ... >:oP
Plus, a lot of time has passed since G1 and Galvatron. We've got significantly more budget going into the movies and, supposedly, the writing staff. Shouldn't we expect some kind of evolution in terms of the quality of villainy?
Since then, we've had a range of Transformers villains, from charismatic BW Megatron to noble Armada Starscream, and even those are over ten years old now. This characterization of Megatron/Galvatron is the best they can do?
I was born and raised at the end of the beast era, been through rid(I think it is boring), UT, animated , bay verse movies, prime (loooved it) and now looking back,I think that even though it is plagued with animation errors UT has a place in my heart which I started with my enjoyment of the franchise
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Posted by Shuttershock on June 29th, 2014 @ 4:04pm CDT
That'll happen when your passionate/opinionated about your thoughts. Still, I think it's managed to stay pretty thoughtful and well-balanced with comments and arguments.
Posted by Shuttershock on June 29th, 2014 @ 4:04pm CDT
It Is Him wrote:This thread is a giant wall of text
That'll happen when your passionate/opinionated about your thoughts. Still, I think it's managed to stay pretty thoughtful and well-balanced with comments and arguments.
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Posted by Shuttershock on June 29th, 2014 @ 4:09pm CDT
I hear ya. I unironically own and watch Armada because of how much attention is given to both sides in terms of development. That Starscream is one of the most interesting in the whole franchise. I missed Energon and Cybertron, but I've seen enough clips of the latter to know that it's a fun, ambitious story with unique characters, worlds and epic stakes.
Posted by Shuttershock on June 29th, 2014 @ 4:09pm CDT
Autobot tap out wrote:Shuttershock wrote:Autobot tap out wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Skywarp64 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Skywarp64 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:But Galvatron, I wasn't expecting him to do much of anything.
And he didn't. He had 2 or 3 lines, he complained about how the Autobots were ruining everything, then just gave up, saying "Eh, I'll get you later".
He started the entire uprising and gave a speech.
As I recall, that "uprising" was crushed within minutes.
Megatron's always been a fucking joke in Bay's films and, frankly, I'm sick of it.
First he was a terrible pilot who crashed in the arctic where he was stuck for literally thousands of years, including most of the first movie until the last 25 minutes or so.
Then, he willingly debased himself before The Fallen.
Then, he was a total wuss who pretty much handed his command over to Sentinel and put up no fight whatsoever when Optimus attacked him.
Now, he's a whiny bitch who, apart from the part you mentioned, does little more than complain about how the Autobots are ruining everything, never actually confronting said Autobots to DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, then just sort of walking away, figuring "eh, I'll get you later".
It's high time Bay realized that ending a film like this DOES NOT guarantee a sequel, so Galvatron should get to have his moment now. You can't count on another movie being released to save his shining moment for.
He was a joke in G1. What's changed?
He in the animated film was close to epic after with him all wonko post movie he went downhill with cyclonus being a better leader ... >:oP
Plus, a lot of time has passed since G1 and Galvatron. We've got significantly more budget going into the movies and, supposedly, the writing staff. Shouldn't we expect some kind of evolution in terms of the quality of villainy?
Since then, we've had a range of Transformers villains, from charismatic BW Megatron to noble Armada Starscream, and even those are over ten years old now. This characterization of Megatron/Galvatron is the best they can do?
I was born and raised at the end of the beast era, been through rid(I think it is boring), UT, animated , bay verse movies, prime (loooved it) and now looking back,I think that even though it is plagued with animation errors UT has a place in my heart which I started with my enjoyment of the franchise
I hear ya. I unironically own and watch Armada because of how much attention is given to both sides in terms of development. That Starscream is one of the most interesting in the whole franchise. I missed Energon and Cybertron, but I've seen enough clips of the latter to know that it's a fun, ambitious story with unique characters, worlds and epic stakes.
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Posted by SlyTF1 on June 29th, 2014 @ 4:45pm CDT
Posted by SlyTF1 on June 29th, 2014 @ 4:45pm CDT
Am I the only one looking forward to the explanation of the Knight's Terminus? Does anyone think they'll explain it in the sequels?
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Posted by chuckdawg1999 on June 29th, 2014 @ 5:03pm CDT
Worst part is I can't post that line anywhere else because people will loose their minds over spoilers.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on June 29th, 2014 @ 5:03pm CDT
sicstep wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'm sorry, but in no world is killing Frasier to save Marky Mark ok.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! TOO. FUNNY!!! HAHAHAHA!!!
Worst part is I can't post that line anywhere else because people will loose their minds over spoilers.
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Posted by chuckdawg1999 on June 29th, 2014 @ 5:05pm CDT
I don't need tissues to watch this kind of movie, others yes.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on June 29th, 2014 @ 5:05pm CDT
Burn wrote:MegaDump wrote:This pains me greatly. It all but guarantees a continuation of the Bayverse crap-fest into perpetuity.
I don't need tissues to watch this kind of movie, others yes.
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Posted by It Is Him on June 29th, 2014 @ 5:13pm CDT
Agreed. It's what makes Seibertron such a good place to come to. It just seems like everyone who is coming out of the woodworks has a lot to say. I wish I could read it all, but I'm mostly glancing at the high points.
Posted by It Is Him on June 29th, 2014 @ 5:13pm CDT
Shuttershock wrote:It Is Him wrote:This thread is a giant wall of text
That'll happen when your passionate/opinionated about your thoughts. Still, I think it's managed to stay pretty thoughtful and well-balanced with comments and arguments.
Agreed. It's what makes Seibertron such a good place to come to. It just seems like everyone who is coming out of the woodworks has a lot to say. I wish I could read it all, but I'm mostly glancing at the high points.
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Posted by chuckdawg1999 on June 29th, 2014 @ 5:16pm CDT
If you remember Rodimus threw Galvatron out of Unicrons head and it landed head down into a flame pool on Char. The landing and pool damaged its head which was shown by spark glitches when Cyclonus pulled Galvatron out. Galvatron sorta mellowed out after The Return of Optimus Prime part 2.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on June 29th, 2014 @ 5:16pm CDT
Autobot tap out wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Skywarp64 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Skywarp64 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:But Galvatron, I wasn't expecting him to do much of anything.
And he didn't. He had 2 or 3 lines, he complained about how the Autobots were ruining everything, then just gave up, saying "Eh, I'll get you later".
He started the entire uprising and gave a speech.
As I recall, that "uprising" was crushed within minutes.
Megatron's always been a fucking joke in Bay's films and, frankly, I'm sick of it.
First he was a terrible pilot who crashed in the arctic where he was stuck for literally thousands of years, including most of the first movie until the last 25 minutes or so.
Then, he willingly debased himself before The Fallen.
Then, he was a total wuss who pretty much handed his command over to Sentinel and put up no fight whatsoever when Optimus attacked him.
Now, he's a whiny bitch who, apart from the part you mentioned, does little more than complain about how the Autobots are ruining everything, never actually confronting said Autobots to DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, then just sort of walking away, figuring "eh, I'll get you later".
It's high time Bay realized that ending a film like this DOES NOT guarantee a sequel, so Galvatron should get to have his moment now. You can't count on another movie being released to save his shining moment for.
He was a joke in G1. What's changed?
He in the animated film was close to epic after with him all wonko post movie he went downhill with cyclonus being a better leader ... >:oP
If you remember Rodimus threw Galvatron out of Unicrons head and it landed head down into a flame pool on Char. The landing and pool damaged its head which was shown by spark glitches when Cyclonus pulled Galvatron out. Galvatron sorta mellowed out after The Return of Optimus Prime part 2.
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Posted by Gallifreyan Autobot on June 29th, 2014 @ 5:34pm CDT
I have the special collectors edition of the movie on dvd bought for 15.00 at HALF PRICE BOOKS and I remember that scene well
Posted by Gallifreyan Autobot on June 29th, 2014 @ 5:34pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Autobot tap out wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Skywarp64 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Skywarp64 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:But Galvatron, I wasn't expecting him to do much of anything.
And he didn't. He had 2 or 3 lines, he complained about how the Autobots were ruining everything, then just gave up, saying "Eh, I'll get you later".
He started the entire uprising and gave a speech.
As I recall, that "uprising" was crushed within minutes.
Megatron's always been a fucking joke in Bay's films and, frankly, I'm sick of it.
First he was a terrible pilot who crashed in the arctic where he was stuck for literally thousands of years, including most of the first movie until the last 25 minutes or so.
Then, he willingly debased himself before The Fallen.
Then, he was a total wuss who pretty much handed his command over to Sentinel and put up no fight whatsoever when Optimus attacked him.
Now, he's a whiny bitch who, apart from the part you mentioned, does little more than complain about how the Autobots are ruining everything, never actually confronting said Autobots to DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, then just sort of walking away, figuring "eh, I'll get you later".
It's high time Bay realized that ending a film like this DOES NOT guarantee a sequel, so Galvatron should get to have his moment now. You can't count on another movie being released to save his shining moment for.
He was a joke in G1. What's changed?
He in the animated film was close to epic after with him all wonko post movie he went downhill with cyclonus being a better leader ... >:oP
If you remember Rodimus threw Galvatron out of Unicrons head and it landed head down into a flame pool on Char. The landing and pool damaged its head which was shown by spark glitches when Cyclonus pulled Galvatron out. Galvatron sorta mellowed out after The Return of Optimus Prime part 2.
I have the special collectors edition of the movie on dvd bought for 15.00 at HALF PRICE BOOKS and I remember that scene well
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Posted by Gallifreyan Autobot on June 29th, 2014 @ 5:35pm CDT
I have the special collectors edition of the movie on dvd bought for 15.00 at HALF PRICE BOOKS and I remember that scene well
Posted by Gallifreyan Autobot on June 29th, 2014 @ 5:35pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Autobot tap out wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Skywarp64 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Skywarp64 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:But Galvatron, I wasn't expecting him to do much of anything.
And he didn't. He had 2 or 3 lines, he complained about how the Autobots were ruining everything, then just gave up, saying "Eh, I'll get you later".
He started the entire uprising and gave a speech.
As I recall, that "uprising" was crushed within minutes.
Megatron's always been a fucking joke in Bay's films and, frankly, I'm sick of it.
First he was a terrible pilot who crashed in the arctic where he was stuck for literally thousands of years, including most of the first movie until the last 25 minutes or so.
Then, he willingly debased himself before The Fallen.
Then, he was a total wuss who pretty much handed his command over to Sentinel and put up no fight whatsoever when Optimus attacked him.
Now, he's a whiny bitch who, apart from the part you mentioned, does little more than complain about how the Autobots are ruining everything, never actually confronting said Autobots to DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, then just sort of walking away, figuring "eh, I'll get you later".
It's high time Bay realized that ending a film like this DOES NOT guarantee a sequel, so Galvatron should get to have his moment now. You can't count on another movie being released to save his shining moment for.
He was a joke in G1. What's changed?
He in the animated film was close to epic after with him all wonko post movie he went downhill with cyclonus being a better leader ... >:oP
If you remember Rodimus threw Galvatron out of Unicrons head and it landed head down into a flame pool on Char. The landing and pool damaged its head which was shown by spark glitches when Cyclonus pulled Galvatron out. Galvatron sorta mellowed out after The Return of Optimus Prime part 2.
I have the special collectors edition of the movie on dvd bought for 15.00 at HALF PRICE BOOKS and I remember that scene well
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Posted by Skywarp64 on June 29th, 2014 @ 6:21pm CDT
Nah, G1 Megs got shit DONE. I mean, by 2005, he successfully conquered Cybertron.
He later boarded an Autobot shuttle, killing all aboard including Ironhide.
He then succeeded in killing Optimus Prime, albeit being incapacitated in the process.
Posted by Skywarp64 on June 29th, 2014 @ 6:21pm CDT
SlyTF1 wrote:He was a joke in G1. What's changed?
Nah, G1 Megs got shit DONE. I mean, by 2005, he successfully conquered Cybertron.
He later boarded an Autobot shuttle, killing all aboard including Ironhide.
He then succeeded in killing Optimus Prime, albeit being incapacitated in the process.
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Posted by ZeroWolf on June 29th, 2014 @ 6:40pm CDT
To be fair, I always put that down to Shockwave, I mean whenever they went to Cybertron before the movie, he was the one running the show.
Plus I don't think that using 'his' conquest of Cybertron as evidence is going to hold water, as it happened off screen. Now the shuttle attack was good but if the movie hadn't been about clearing toy shelves to make way for new arrivals. Then I doubt he would of killed any character...at least not any named ones. So the real maniacal villains of the cartoon movie are Hasbro for deciding to clear house.
Wow, that was pretty cynical of me. I would love to hold G1 Megs up to the high pedestal of villainy, but he just palls in comparison to BW megs, and Animated Megs who felt more threatening. Oh and of course Megs in the comics...Even if he is an Autobot
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 29th, 2014 @ 6:40pm CDT
Skywarp64 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:He was a joke in G1. What's changed?
Nah, G1 Megs got shit DONE. I mean, by 2005, he successfully conquered Cybertron.
He later boarded an Autobot shuttle, killing all aboard including Ironhide.
He then succeeded in killing Optimus Prime, albeit being incapacitated in the process.
To be fair, I always put that down to Shockwave, I mean whenever they went to Cybertron before the movie, he was the one running the show.
Plus I don't think that using 'his' conquest of Cybertron as evidence is going to hold water, as it happened off screen. Now the shuttle attack was good but if the movie hadn't been about clearing toy shelves to make way for new arrivals. Then I doubt he would of killed any character...at least not any named ones. So the real maniacal villains of the cartoon movie are Hasbro for deciding to clear house.
Wow, that was pretty cynical of me. I would love to hold G1 Megs up to the high pedestal of villainy, but he just palls in comparison to BW megs, and Animated Megs who felt more threatening. Oh and of course Megs in the comics...Even if he is an Autobot
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Posted by Mindmaster on June 29th, 2014 @ 6:48pm CDT
Posted by Mindmaster on June 29th, 2014 @ 6:48pm CDT
Just a quick reminder, fellas: it's alright to voice opinions, but please tone down the language. We have a wide demographic that visits the site, and we'd like to maintain a positive vibe. Thanks! 
