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Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby sicstep » Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:16 pm

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'm sorry, but in no world is killing Frasier to save Marky Mark ok.


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chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'm sorry, but in no world is killing Frasier to save Marky Mark ok.


The exception is the world in which sentient transforming robots who save the world while promoting Oreo cookies, Bud Light, and Victoria's Secret lingerie, exist. Frasier is a real A-hole in that world.
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Transformers: Age of Extinction Makes $41.6 Mln Opening, $80mln Internationally

Postby Va'al » Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:30 am

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Thanks to a tip from fellow Seibertron.com user Rodimus Prime, we can share an article on ComingSoon.net regarding the opening numbers for recently released (in several countries, though not all around the world) Transformers: Age of Extinction. As of June 28th 2014, the total national US gross was $41.6 million, with an international total of $80 million in its first three days! Read part of the full article below, and head here for more - and make sure to discuss the fim on our boards!

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Michael Bay's Transformers: Age of Extinction, starring Mark Wahlberg, opened on Thursday night to the tune of $8.8 million in previews and it's now being reported that it has grossed an estimated $41.6 million its opening Friday (including those previews).

UPDATE: "Age of Extinction" grossed $52 million internationally in 36 markets on Friday, bringing its international total to $80 million after three days. China brought in a record-breaking $30 million in a single day in its regular and IMAX theaters, the latter 148 screens making up 24% of the total IMAX screens globally.

This is the biggest opening day for any movie this year, giving it the best chance at being the first movie of the year to gross over $100 million its opening weekend, although there are other factors to consider before jumping to that conclusion.

Read more: Transformers: Age of Extinction Takes $41.6 Million Opening Day - ComingSoon.net http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienew ... #/slide/55#ixzz360kJ92oy
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Saw AOE - my Thoughts (spoilers)

Postby Rodimus2006 » Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:42 am

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Saw the movie the other day, also I saw it in 3D big improvement since I last say DOTM in 3D which was almost un-watchable in 3DS it was to Blurry & gave me a headache.

3D must have been improved dramatically since then it was clear as crystal & nice sounds.

My thoughts on AOE.

Loved the Film big improvement over DOTM
Long Movie almost 3 Hours
Focuses more on Transformers & less on Humans Nice + Here
Mark nailed his Role as Cade Yager, surpasses Shia.
We learn more on the Transformers Origins
We learned that Optimus is a Knight of Cybertron
The Dinobots were not called Dinobots nor did they have names
Dinobots did not have much Screen Time.

Hound was one of my Favorite new Bots
Hated the Samurai Bot
Also thought Crosshair was a Douchebag
They Made Bee to be out like a Immature Teen had awesome moments in the film when he saw his Clone Stinger.

Loved the Human-Made Transformers & their Transformations were Amazing & also different.

The Drones were also Awesome.

To me Lockdown Dogs reminded me of Energon's Terracons.

Lockdown's Ship OMG is all I can say about that.

Sets up nicely for Transformers 5

May not even have Optimus Prime back in TF 5 could be new leader maybe Ultra Magnus, Rodimus takes over.

Nice Transition from Old to New sets up for 2nd Trilogy.

Want to learn more on the Creators maybe different than G1 Quints.

The Seed was also Interesting seems to have an effect like the Key to Vector Sigma did in G1 transforming Organic into Metallic.

Optimus Prime was Darker, but given the circumstances I do not blame Prime, the Humans Turned on them, Butchered & killed Autobots without Reasoning, Leadfoot, Ratchet that was hard to watch.

Kelsey Grammar nailed his Villan role superb performance.

Did not care to much for Savoy he was a Douchebag.

Galvatron, was Weird, that is all I could say on him, but he wil big time be back in TF 5.

His Robotic Mode was Also Weird so was his VA, couldn't really tell that was Frank Welker anymore should have been done by Nimoy.

Overall I loved the movie, just took it a little bit to get it going, overall it was a big improvement over DOTM.

Also I didn't care to much for the Soundtrack or its Musical Score.

But overall I give AOE a 4 out of 5.

Also I didn't like Prime's Jet Mode, Different liked it better in DOTM reminded me of Jet Convoy in Armada.

Cant wait for Transformers 5 learn more on these Creators.
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby BumbleDouche » Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:58 am

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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby Shuttershock » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:23 am

Much like a new coat of paint only hides the structural flaws of a poorly built building, AoE is for the most part just a facelift. We've got a slightly better pedigree in terms of cast, but they're still forced to act like blithering incompetents when the slag hits the fan. The terrible script is still there, the terrible editing is still there, and the terrible plot holes are still there.

What little structure/plot the last films had to push them to their conclusions doesn't exist here. We have no feel for the stakes or any sense of urgency, so the movie feels nightmarishly long and I found myself being bored and just wanting it to end. And by that point, every tedious moment of forced comedy and bad editing did nothing but generate ill will for the movie as a whole, even the parts that I had been okay with previously.

I'll be honest, I was liking the first third of the movie, which was paced soberly, took time to set things up and, frankly, tricked you into thinking themes and attitudes had been overhauled. The worst I thought we'd have to weather was T.J. Miller being a douchebag and Mark Wahlberg being a tired stereotype of a "protective dad". I am now firmly convinced that this segment was directed by a second unit, because by the second act, we loose all focus, all subtlety, and crank the stereotype generator on full blast.

More than anything else, the writers, producers and directors STILL haven't learned that we'd much rather see a story with the Transformers as the stars, and adding big names like Wahlberg, Tucci and Grammer aren't helping that matter. Wahlberg is a good action star, but this is not HIS action movie. And what truly baffles me is that the Transformers franchise has to put up with this treatment. Consider this: if a superhero movie took drastic amounts of time away from the titular character to focus on uninteresting rehashed side characters, you'd hate that movie as a poor adaptation. But we have to put up with what I call the "Godzilla Syndrome" because our superheroes, now with 30 years of history and lineage to their names, just happen to be originally be based on a toyline? Is it because they don't think they can write alien robots as convincing characters, or that they don't want to try?

Either way, why do we have to grit our teeth and bear the fact that the most public branch of one of our favorite franchises, the one that likely dictates said brand's future, is at best just "okay" and at worst a tedious, unpleasant, poorly-written slog that shows no interest in changing or adapting? I'm not saying that we DESERVE more, but shouldn't we WANT more?
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby Shuttershock » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:25 am

Much like a new coat of paint only hides the structural flaws of a poorly built building, AoE is for the most part just a facelift. We've got a slightly better pedigree in terms of cast, but they're still forced to act like blithering incompetents when the slag hits the fan. The terrible script is still there, the terrible editing is still there, and the terrible plot holes are still there.

What little structure/plot the last films had to push them to their conclusions doesn't exist here. We have no feel for the stakes or any sense of urgency, so the movie feels nightmarishly long and I found myself being bored and just wanting it to end. And by that point, every tedious moment of forced comedy and bad editing did nothing but generate ill will for the movie as a whole, even the parts that I had been okay with previously.

I'll be honest, I was liking the first third of the movie, which was paced soberly, took time to set things up and, frankly, tricked you into thinking themes and attitudes had been overhauled. The worst I thought we'd have to weather was T.J. Miller being a douchebag and Mark Wahlberg being a tired stereotype of a "protective dad". I am now firmly convinced that this segment was directed by a second unit, because by the second act, we loose all focus, all subtlety, and crank the stereotype generator on full blast.

More than anything else, the writers, producers and directors STILL haven't learned that we'd much rather see a story with the Transformers as the stars, and adding big names like Wahlberg, Tucci and Grammer aren't helping that matter. Wahlberg is a good action star, but this is not HIS action movie. And what truly baffles me is that the Transformers franchise has to put up with this treatment. Consider this: if a superhero movie took drastic amounts of time away from the titular character to focus on uninteresting rehashed side characters, you'd hate that movie as a poor adaptation. But we have to put up with what I call the "Godzilla Syndrome" because our superheroes, now with 30 years of history and lineage to their names, just happen to be originally be based on a toyline? Is it because they don't think they can write alien robots as convincing characters, or that they don't want to try?

Either way, why do we have to grit our teeth and bear the fact that the most public branch of one of our favorite franchises, the one that likely dictates said brand's future, is at best just "okay" and at worst a tedious, unpleasant, poorly-written slog that shows no interest in changing or adapting? I'm not saying that we DESERVE more, but shouldn't we WANT more?
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby Sagitta » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:34 am

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There will always be naysayers who, for some reason, keep going back to see each new film only to complain. But that's the lovely thing about opinions...we all get to have some. :D

Loved the movie due to the differnt direction it happened to take and the coherancy of the story. And much of it was beievable given the "backdrop" and situations given.

Someone may have have mentioned Optimus Prime and the other Autobots being out of character in certain areas. But when they wittnessed the recording of Ratchet being ruthlessly slaughtered...or when Optimus killed a human to save someone's life while leaving himself wide-open for a crippling shot there is a lot of sense to it and their actions.

The fact Sam and his obnoxious parents weren't involved were very big pluses. Not to mention the lack of crude humor was another big plus.

The fact it wasn't just another of Bay's "Humans and the Occasional Transformer" was perhaps the biggest plus of all.
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby dabattousai » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:43 am

Not as good as the first film, better than the second film and it is up to par with the third film. It was long, and the "liquid transformation" is stupid and makes me think they were just too lazy to create real transformations for the Decepticon side. The Dinobots is the best part of the movie. The darker tones were great and Lockdown was badass. Like it has been mentioned, Michael Bay is just horrible with direction to flush out the story. I felt that it was there, could have been a good story if more dialogue and more detail was put in, but alas, Bay is only good with explosions. The Autobots were more entertaining. Loved Bulkhead Hound, Crosshairs and Springer Drift. They all had character and felt more attached to the bots this time around. It's a fun movie to see, but I would not go as far as to call it a masterpiece. TF5 looks promising and hope it's done right. No "liquid transformation" on the next round please...
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby Devastated » Sun Jun 29, 2014 3:31 am

This is my first post in these forums. I enjoyed the movie it was a bit long and I also hated the liquid transformation as well. I'll watch these transformer movies always but after 4 movies 7 years and Megatron/Galvatron not being able to transform into a gun but Lockdown maybe 10-15 min after walking on to the set already has a gun form :sad:

Lockdown was bad ass tho haha
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby Devastated » Sun Jun 29, 2014 3:34 am

does anyone know where I can get that ringtone from the movie? It's a ring tone of the g1 transformers transition screen
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Jun 29, 2014 4:18 am

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Shuttershock wrote: And what truly baffles me is that the Transformers franchise has to put up with this treatment. Consider this: if a superhero movie took drastic amounts of time away from the titular character to focus on uninteresting rehashed side characters, you'd hate that movie as a poor adaptation. But we have to put up with what I call the "Godzilla Syndrome" because our superheroes, now with 30 years of history and lineage to their names, just happen to be originally be based on a toyline? Is it because they don't think they can write alien robots as convincing characters, or that they don't want to try?

Either way, why do we have to grit our teeth and bear the fact that the most public branch of one of our favorite franchises, the one that likely dictates said brand's future, is at best just "okay" and at worst a tedious, unpleasant, poorly-written slog that shows no interest in changing or adapting? I'm not saying that we DESERVE more, but shouldn't we WANT more?


Most superheroes movies though don't have a large cast that eat up all the effect budget, even in the avengers, only two heroes out of the six needed heavy special effects to portray them. This is the drawback of live action. The transformer movies I hear people wanting time and time again would have to be totally CGI, which I'm guessing is a route they don't want to go down (except for tv for a strange reason). Live action works for them and whatever vision they have.

As for wanting more...The problem is no one can agree on what that 'more' is. Plus end of the day what does it matter really? The film has still performed really well, well enough to get tf 5 and 6 greenlit probably. They are just movies at the end of the day, they are hardly going to ruin the franchise.
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby Fox Thiagarajan » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:42 am

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Couldn't agree more. I loved this movie.
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby Skywarp64 » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:57 am

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Anyone else REALLY pissed off at how Galvatron was handled in this movie?

I mean, it just felt like such a missed opportunity to me. You had Frank Welker and Peter Cullen in the same recording studio once more and they barely get to have any banter. They only meet face to face once and Galvy only gets to say one line during that one, brief meeting.

And I know Lockdown is cool, but IMO he had no right to upstage the Lord of Decepticons like that.
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:01 am

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Skywarp64 wrote:Anyone else REALLY pissed off at how Galvatron was handled in this movie?


I didn't like the "transformation" but I think they started well with the "new" Galvatron character. He wasn't the main bad guy, but was given a mostly solid foundation for his return in the next film. This was Lockdown's 15 minutes, but Galvatron is here to stay until the end, IMO.

I was thinking about this at work, and given his new awesome truck mode, I really hope in the next film they give him a trailer with which he can combine. THAT would be a badass Galvatron.
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby Skywarp64 » Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:04 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:This was Lockdown's 15 minutes


More like Lockdown's hour or so, Galvatron's 10 or so minutes, 2 or 3 lines.

Rodimus Prime wrote:and given his new awesome truck mode, I really hope in the next film they give him a trailer with which he can combine. THAT would be a badass Galvatron.


No, that would be a badass Motormaster. Galvatron shouldn't be copycatting Optimus, that's not only Motormaster's job but also a bit of a cliché in films right now. I for one am sick and tired of villains being just bigger, stronger versions of the heroes.
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby SlyTF1 » Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:08 am

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Skywarp64 wrote:Anyone else REALLY pissed off at how Galvatron was handled in this movie?


I thought he was the most badass character in the movie, besides Optimus. Lockdown was badass too, but I was expecting that from him. But Galvatron, I wasn't expecting him to do much of anything.
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby Skywarp64 » Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:10 am

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SlyTF1 wrote:But Galvatron, I wasn't expecting him to do much of anything.


And he didn't. He had 2 or 3 lines, he complained about how the Autobots were ruining everything, then just gave up, saying "Eh, I'll get you later".
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby SlyTF1 » Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:25 am

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SlyTF1 wrote:But Galvatron, I wasn't expecting him to do much of anything.


And he didn't. He had 2 or 3 lines, he complained about how the Autobots were ruining everything, then just gave up, saying "Eh, I'll get you later".


He started the entire uprising and gave a speech.
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby BumbleDouche » Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:38 am

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Shuttershock wrote:Much like a new coat of paint only hides the structural flaws of a poorly built building, AoE is for the most part just a facelift. We've got a slightly better pedigree in terms of cast, but they're still forced to act like blithering incompetents when the slag hits the fan. The terrible script is still there, the terrible editing is still there, and the terrible plot holes are still there.

What little structure/plot the last films had to push them to their conclusions doesn't exist here. We have no feel for the stakes or any sense of urgency, so the movie feels nightmarishly long and I found myself being bored and just wanting it to end. And by that point, every tedious moment of forced comedy and bad editing did nothing but generate ill will for the movie as a whole, even the parts that I had been okay with previously.

I'll be honest, I was liking the first third of the movie, which was paced soberly, took time to set things up and, frankly, tricked you into thinking themes and attitudes had been overhauled. The worst I thought we'd have to weather was T.J. Miller being a douchebag and Mark Wahlberg being a tired stereotype of a "protective dad". I am now firmly convinced that this segment was directed by a second unit, because by the second act, we loose all focus, all subtlety, and crank the stereotype generator on full blast.

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You're my new best friend lol. What really made me lose all hope for humanity was hearing people in the cinema actually laugh at some of the attempts at humour in this film. It's honestly getting embarrassing telling people I'm a Transformers fan because they immediately relate it back to these films. I've not been a "ruined forever" type in the past, but these movies really pain me. And yes, to the other poster, I HAVE gone through several boxes of Kleenex, wiping away tears lol.
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby Skywarp64 » Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:48 am

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SlyTF1 wrote:But Galvatron, I wasn't expecting him to do much of anything.


And he didn't. He had 2 or 3 lines, he complained about how the Autobots were ruining everything, then just gave up, saying "Eh, I'll get you later".


He started the entire uprising and gave a speech.


As I recall, that "uprising" was crushed within minutes.

Megatron's always been a joke in Bay's films and, frankly, I'm sick of it.

First he was a terrible pilot who crashed in the arctic where he was stuck for literally thousands of years, including most of the first movie until the last 25 minutes or so.

Then, he willingly debased himself before The Fallen.

Then, he was a total wuss who pretty much handed his command over to Sentinel and put up no fight whatsoever when Optimus attacked him.

Now, he's a whiny bitch who, apart from the part you mentioned, does little more than complain about how the Autobots are ruining everything, never actually confronting said Autobots to DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, then just sort of walking away, figuring "eh, I'll get you later".

It's high time Bay realized that ending a film like this DOES NOT guarantee a sequel, so Galvatron should get to have his moment now. You can't count on another movie being released to save his shining moment for.
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:49 am

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Okay a few things to consider.

In the first film it said that Megatron crashed because of the earths magnetic field, not bad piloting.

Second film, Megatron was the Fallens student, as explored in the prequel comics.

Megs only lost in DOTM because of all the damage that hadn't healed since the finale of the second movie. He wasn't 100%.
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby TurboMMaster » Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:20 am

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Skywarp64 wrote:I mean, it just felt like such a missed opportunity to me. You had Frank Welker and Peter Cullen in the same recording studio once more and they barely get to have any banter. They only meet face to face once and Galvy only gets to say one line during that one, brief meeting.
I feel your pain, bro. Like I said beofre, it is strange that he dosen't do anything personaly to stop Autobots, witch is odd. Beign one of the most powerfull Decepticon Warriors, tha already proved that is a challenge for entire Autobot Team at once, whe should try to stop them by ripping dinobots appart. Especially now, when his power make him virtually invincible.

Skywarp64 wrote:First he was a terrible pilot who crashed in the arctic where he was stuck for literally thousands of years, including most of the first movie until the last 25 minutes or so.
That is just a plot exucse to introduce Witwicky's family and expailning why human weapons is so effective. It' dosen't even metter in long term for Megatron's fate.
SlyTF1 wrote:He started the entire uprising and gave a speech.
So sad that he didn't do anything amazing later.
SlyTF1 wrote:I thought he was the most badass character in the movie, besides Optimus
I'm not sure is he should be consider stronger than his First Version movie.
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