#HASCON 2017 Transformers Power of the Primes VIP Reveals Video

durroth wrote:

KingofVIZ wrote:Either face is not done or they're trying to keep hush-hush about Hun-grrr

Neither. I thought so at first too, but then I took a look at the details poking out from BEHIND the pasted on decepticon symbol. I am about 80% sure that's Redemption/Salvation femdinobot Strafe's head

I'm not one to easily be freaked out, but Strafe's beast mode needs to be burned at the stake with a preist supervising!

Really hope hasbro includes a pretender shell for optimus primal so the deluxe can have a monkey mode of sorts (and not die from staying in robot mode...), if not it might be something a third party could do. The skateboard thing seems odd as it was only for transmetal but at least it can be ape modes back pack. Really interested to see if they do BW Megatron at soem point (T-rex to the TM Dragon would be neat)

Very excited to see the Terrorcons, but Hun-gurr doesn't look good to me. The thick dragon necks and the thick robot mode arms throw me off. Hopefully they will rework those. That bulk needs to be on the legs instead of the arms. The legs of the robot mode look too thin.

I want this as a retool.




Who's with me!

Now that aside, I'm not sure how I feel about the other new reveals. Hun-gurrr was my favorite torso of the original combiners, but this version is looking like maybe the worst yet. His bot mode has weird legs, tiny narrow feet, and his tail is now on his chest which may not be a mistake, his combined chest looks to be on his back. Then his dragon mode just looks terrible! Tiny front legs like kickstands on a bike, back legs that bend the wrong way (again, not mistransformed, the feet are on hinges, there's no way to spin the leg around), and his belly drags now.

Also looks like he's another one that does a headstand like Silverbolt, he appears to have combiner ports hidden in his wrists (to form knees) and knees (to make shoulders) just like Silverbolt. Kinda makes me sad since now he wont have dragon knees.

Not sure how I feel about Optimus Primal. I'm not a big fan of him being a space bus/surf board now instead of a gorilla. It really isn't much of an evolution. Hot Rod and Rodimus are both full represented in all four main modes, Optimus evolves from Orion Pax and has an acceptable truck mode with trailer. But Primal getting an alt mode he's never had before while Hot Rod does and Orion may as well have just doesn't sit well with me. I'm a little happy and a little annoyed that the gorilla mode of Optimal Optimus doesn't require Primal, just because it's nice that Primal gets to have a big gorilla partner, but annoying that the other guys' trailers don't seem to turn into anything on their own.

Also, knowing that Primal doesn't turn into a gorilla really makes me want to see his bot mode replaced with Beast Machines Megatron.

Moonracer looks fine to me aside from the strange feet and something of a backpack.

Need to see all of these painted before I pass final judgement.

Emerje

They look great. I'm loving the space cruiser mode for Optimus. Like others here I hope the cockpit is Titanmaster compatible.

Rippersnapper looks great with his Wolverine claws. I just hope you can open his creature mouth.

DMSL wrote:The thick dragon necks and the thick robot mode arms throw me off. Hopefully they will rework those. That bulk needs to be on the legs instead of the arms. The legs of the robot mode look too thin.

I thought his arm size was the part they got most right about the figure.

Windsweeper wrote:Rippersnapper looks great with his Wolverine claws. I just hope you can open his creature mouth.

Looks like he has a pin hole for a hinge above his bottom jaw and you can see from the bot mode that his jaws are separate pieces.

Emerje

Did anyone at the panel explain why Hun-Gurrr's face is hidden? They surely can't have shown that without some sort of reference to it.

Also, he's totally a Silverbolt retool you guys

Kurona wrote:he's totally a Silverbolt retool you guys

That's not Silverbolt.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Kurona wrote:he's totally a Silverbolt retool you guys

That's not Silverbolt.

Really? The torso mode could've fooled me

Kurona wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Kurona wrote:he's totally a Silverbolt retool you guys

That's not Silverbolt.

Really? The torso mode could've fooled me

Apparently it did fool you, since you called it Silverbolt.

Kurona wrote:Did anyone at the panel explain why Hun-Gurrr's face is hidden? They surely can't have shown that without some sort of reference to it.

From the panel video we got just above, apparently all we've been told is that the sneak peek is "so exclusive we can't even show you his face" Who knows what that's supposed to mean. Long shot here, but: maybe it's a secondary-use face, and they've covered it up so as not to spoil potential other uses they're considering for the mold? That's my best (read:only) guess, anyways.

Kurona wrote:Also, he's totally a Silverbolt retool you guys

For once, it seems like declaring him to be based on a previous figure is the rational thing to do here. He sure does look like a Silverbolt body-type (heavily altered nonetheless, maybe more along the lines of shared engineering a la Dead End / Chromedome). I wonder if that means we'll be able to finagle a semi-jet-mode out of him somehow, just for fun?

Hun-Grr looks decent. Definitely getting Silverbolt retool vibes from him. Oh well, he looks so heavily retooled it shouldn't matter.

Rippersnapper looks amazing! I just hope he gets more than a headswap for the inevitable Overbite redeco. I'll totally agree though, an Energon Cruellock retool would be an awesome thing.

Moonracer actually looks brilliant! I'll definitely be getting her.

Optimus Primal looks great in robot mode and "super mode" but seriously why the hell is he a log with a cockpit and not a gorilla? Are you f***ing kidding me Warden? Are you so petty and spiteful over Primal winning instead of one of your GEEWUN characters that you deliberately did a crap job? Screw you Warden. I ain't buying it. Come back when you do your job properly.

Looking much closer at the Optimus Primal and realising a few many things.

1. He does, in fact, work like the other Leaders in that the 'deluxe' forms the top part of the Leader's robot mode. His being the surfboard for the Gorilla mode tricked us into thinking otherwise; but you can clearly see the cockpit of Primal's alt mode forming Optimal's chest; and the in-progress models show the rest of Primal's alt mode as a backpack. Proving this is that you can see the Matrix of Leadership in Optimal's chest and Primal's cockpit.

2. Talking of which: MATRIX OF FRIGGIN' LEADERSHIP! This also seems to confirm that Prime/Titan Masters can go in the cockpit; since the Matrix would itself be a Prime Master.

Kurona wrote:1. He does, in fact, work like the other Leaders in that the 'deluxe' forms the top part of the Leader's robot mode. His being the surfboard for the Gorilla mode tricked us into thinking otherwise; but you can clearly see the cockpit of Primal's alt mode forming Optimal's chest; and the in-progress models show the rest of Primal's alt mode as a backpack. Proving this is that you can see the Matrix of Leadership in Optimal's chest and Primal's cockpit.

Yes, it's exacty what I said three pages ago.

it was the only logical choice according the constraints of the line to give him this ship form instead of gorilla.

Same as Orion which has an Optimus truck alt mode. (strange, nobody complains here).

It doesn't bother me a lot, we already had a good recent Monkey-Primal with the BW anniversary/cybertron one (not even talking of the recents BW retools and the MP), this new one is the perfect opportunity to finally get a cybertronian Primal other than the unaffordable 2006 botcon one.


So, if the renders are accurate, it means he can be :


Alone :

- Small Primal transforming as shuttle.
- 'Trailer' being an independant gorilla which can played with, contrary to Optimus and Rodimus trailers which are only... trailers, useless without the deluxe bot.

Combined :

- Monkey riding the shuttle as surf (like TM Primal)
- Monkey with Armored backpack
- Optimal Optimus
- Optimal Optimus flying mode. (shown only in the renders)


7 Modes, VS Optimus and rodimus 4 modes !

I absolutely don't understand the griefs. There's a monkey, except it's the trailer.
It's not a masterpiece line where the characters needs to be cartoon accurate, it's POTP, where the leaders are supposed to be deluxe toys merging with a 'trailer' in order to become another/evolved character.
And he's doing it awesomely, better than Optimus and Hotrod. So much playability..

Seriously, this is so ridiculously awesome. I was hyped by Optimus and Hotrod, but Optimal Optimus just made them obsolete.

Kurona wrote:Looking much closer at the Optimus Primal and realising a few many things.

1. He does, in fact, work like the other Leaders in that the 'deluxe' forms the top part of the Leader's robot mode. His being the surfboard for the Gorilla mode tricked us into thinking otherwise; but you can clearly see the cockpit of Primal's alt mode forming Optimal's chest; and the in-progress models show the rest of Primal's alt mode as a backpack. Proving this is that you can see the Matrix of Leadership in Optimal's chest and Primal's cockpit.

2. Talking of which: MATRIX OF FRIGGIN' LEADERSHIP! This also seems to confirm that Prime/Titan Masters can go in the cockpit; since the Matrix would itself be a Prime Master.

Indeed, that is the case! And the chest/back guns are Primal's dumb... pipe... things. Yeah alright official artwork, I'm suuure those are swords.

I still wouldn't put it out of the question that the Deluxe Primal could be nudged into a vaguely gorilla-like form, either. Not a very good or convincing one I'm sure, but probably close enough that a third-party could fix it up fairly easily at least. As one who's not too concerned either way about BW this turn of events hasn't bothered me too much, but I do really sympathize with those who'd been hoping for something more than a log with a cockpit. (Not to mention it gives him a huuuge friggin' backpack in robot mode. Like, you couldn't even get him to turn into a plank without relying on a chunk of kibble 2/3 the size of the rest of the robot? Come on now.)

This does actually make me wonder how the rest of the poll participants would have worked with the POTP Leader Evolution gimmick. Star Saber, Ultra Magnus and Thunderwing are fairly obvious -- it was basically the former's original gimmick and the latter two had similar gimmicks in their original toys too which the POTP Evolution gimmick would, well, work as an evolution of. Though I am curious how they'd get around the colour discrepancies between Thunderwing's inner robot and outer robot.

But what about Megatron, Arcee, Hound, Shockwave and Deathsaurus? How would they be done? Especially in the case of Arcee and Hound -- the rest you can easily imagine as big Leader-sized terrors and there's even precedent for that, but Arcee and Hound have consistently been portrayed as smaller characters. Would they have come up with brand new designs? Would they have gone with AOE/TLK Hound as the evolved form for Hound? Would Arcee basically become Elita?

Admittedly this probably doesn't matter as we'll likely never see the rest of the poll participants come about. But I'm still very curious now we've seen what the winner of the poll got.

Kurona wrote:But what about Megatron, Arcee, Hound, Shockwave and Deathsaurus? How would they be done? Especially in the case of Arcee and Hound -- the rest you can easily imagine as big Leader-sized terrors and there's even precedent for that, but Arcee and Hound have consistently been portrayed as smaller characters. Would they have come up with brand new designs? Would they have gone with AOE/TLK Hound as the evolved form for Hound? Would Arcee basically become Elita?

Admittedly this probably doesn't matter as we'll likely never see the rest of the poll participants come about. But I'm still very curious now we've seen what the winner of the poll got.

I more think they did some stats and threw these more or less as random names in order to add choices, perfectly knowing they had no chances at all facing magnus Primal and such.

Kurona wrote:I am curious how they'd get around the colour discrepancies between Thunderwing's inner robot and outer robot.

Presumably the same way they'll get around the colour discrepancies between Primal's regular and Optimal forms - however that ends up being done. Bit of a non-answer isn't it, I don't even know why I chimed in now.

I'm quite curious about all the others too, though Magnus is still the main one I'd really be interested in seeing. The more I look at this Leader Optimus (Prime, not Primal, boy that's gonna get confusing), the less he looks like it'll be possible to do a decent Magnus out of him, which makes me a sad boy . For Arcee particularly though, I'd say all bets would've been off - we know now from Primal that the design team wouldn't have been afraid to totally ditch her regular alt-mode if they felt like they could integrate it better with something completely different, and it's not like she's really had many other forms across her media depictions. Maybe her 'inner' robot might've turned into a motorcycle? It certainly would've been interesting to see!

(And yeah, ExciKaiser's probably right that they had no design plans at all, knowing that they wouldn't have had a chance of winning in the first place. But since we're almost certainly never going to have official word one way or the other, it's fun to throw ideas around and see what might stick!)

Qwan wrote:

Kurona wrote:I am curious how they'd get around the colour discrepancies between Thunderwing's inner robot and outer robot.

Presumably the same way they'll get around the colour discrepancies between Primal's regular and Optimal forms - however that ends up being done. Bit of a non-answer isn't it, I don't even know why I chimed in now.

I'm quite curious about all the others too, though Magnus is still the main one I'd really be interested in seeing. The more I look at this Leader Optimus (Prime, not Primal, boy that's gonna get confusing), the less he looks like it'll be possible to do a decent Magnus out of him, which makes me a sad boy. For Arcee particularly though, I'd say all bets would've been off - we know now from Primal that the design team wouldn't have been afraid to totally ditch her regular alt-mode if they felt like they could integrate it better with something completely different. It certainly would've been interesting to see!

True, though Primal had a much bigger form that's fairly well known for Hasbro to fall back on. What would Arcee's Leader-class suit have been?

Autobot Roadburn wrote:I'm a bit disappointed in the alt mode, but since it's Primal I'll definitely pick him up. I just hope he scales well with Generations Waspinator, Rattrap and Rhinox.

He will be as big as Rattrap and Waspinator.

blackeyedprime wrote:The skateboard thing seems odd as it was only for transmetal but at least it can be ape modes back pack.)

It was for this guy too


Transformers Beast Wars (10th Anniversary) Optimus Primal Gallery

DMSL wrote: That bulk needs to be on the legs instead of the arms. The legs of the robot mode look too thin.

His arms are the right size, the problem is that you see a pic where they have the combiner fet attached to his arms, they can come off and his arms can look fine.

Kurona wrote:

Qwan wrote:

Kurona wrote:I am curious how they'd get around the colour discrepancies between Thunderwing's inner robot and outer robot.

Presumably the same way they'll get around the colour discrepancies between Primal's regular and Optimal forms - however that ends up being done. Bit of a non-answer isn't it, I don't even know why I chimed in now.

I'm quite curious about all the others too, though Magnus is still the main one I'd really be interested in seeing. The more I look at this Leader Optimus (Prime, not Primal, boy that's gonna get confusing), the less he looks like it'll be possible to do a decent Magnus out of him, which makes me a sad boy. For Arcee particularly though, I'd say all bets would've been off - we know now from Primal that the design team wouldn't have been afraid to totally ditch her regular alt-mode if they felt like they could integrate it better with something completely different. It certainly would've been interesting to see!

True, though Primal had a much bigger form that's fairly well known for Hasbro to fall back on. What would Arcee's Leader-class suit have been?

Heh, I was actually just in the process of amending that post to reflect my best ideas for her. My compulsive post-then-edit-to-clarify method is kinda falling to pieces in the current high-post-rate climate.

Moonracer looks okay. The Terrorcons look great, though. Here's hoping we see the rest of them (and Abominus) soon.

Primal Prime is interesting. I'll admit, regular Primal becoming a surfboard is a little odd, but it does make for a nice nod to Transmetal Primal.

Hey, guess what everyone's gonna hate to hear? I've been examining the renders of the Dinobots (mostly because I just can't get enough of those beatiful things ) and I'm pretty sure Sludge and Slug share a base mold. Tip-offs include the shared guns, upper arms (which are oriented opposite to each other in dino mode since their torsos face different ways respectively) and basic engineering in the legs (I'm pretty sure the robot hips and upper legs are shared too but I can't tell because of the way Sludge is posed). They're still plenty different in both sculpt and non-leg engineering so it doesn't bother me personally, but since we're always looking for that fabled retool connection (someday we'll find it... the lovers, the dreamers and me) I thought I'd point it out.

(YET ANOTHER EDIT: It actually looks like their robot shin-pieces might be shared too, upon even further examination. But the fact that just the different deco and dino-legs-and-tail made it take so long for me to notice it, even when I was looking for shared parts, makes me feel like Hasbro knows what they're doing and have the differentiation under control. )

On a much more exciting Dinobot-related note, I'm now noticing in the renders that all the Deluxe-class guys (at least; can't be sure on Grimlock yet) have foot-pegs for TMs/PMs! (Snarl's seem to be on the inside of his spine-things-which-I-forget-the-name-of, so you'll have to flip them down like little platforms. I adore that.) It's not quite dino-saddles - though I still wouldn't put those out of the question yet either - but it's just yet another thing that gets me super-hyped for these dinos!

We now have new artwork to show you featuring the Transformers Power of the Primes Dinobots. These are the full version of the artwork found on their boxes. This is also the artwork used on the cards that come with these toys as well as the artwork on the Hascon teasers. These were found on the Hong Kong TF Facebook page. You can see these in toy form in our new show gallery.

And once again... red chest swoop.

Still liking everything I see. Rippersnapper looks great in both modes as does Moon Racer. I like how they were able to still keep her sleek in robot mode without having a huge backpack like generations Arcee. Hun-Grrr looks alright, front feet are a bit undersized but it's not the end of the world. I actually like the look of Primal too. I'm not a fan of beast wars and organic alt modes so the fact that there are none here is a huge bonus.

steals_your_goats wrote:Rippersnapper looks great in both modes as does Moon Racer.

I'm not fan of MoonRacer. I want fembots, more fembots, but not like this. These feet really turn me off, it's typical of the worst transformations we got from movies lines, now coming on generations.

I'd like Moonracer a lot more if it wasn't for the big panel slapped on her thigh. I understand that this isn't exactly a Masterpiece budget so it's not like there was much else for it to go; but you could at least try and wrap it around the lower leg as armour or a bulkier physique or something. As is, the leg unfortunately just doesn't look very good.

ExciKaiser wrote:I more think they did some stats and threw these more or less as random names in order to add choices, perfectly knowing they had no chances at all facing Magnus, Primal and such.

I am certain this is what happened too. Hasbro reads these forums, there were never gonna be plans for Arcee or Hound to be leaders, knowing all the other choices. I think we would have had a Primal as well regardless if he would have won. I highly doubt all the planning we see in those slides developped since February of this very year.

Qwan wrote:Hey, guess what everyone's gonna hate to hear? I've been examining the renders of the Dinobots (mostly because I just can't get enough of those beatiful things ) and I'm pretty sure Sludge and Slug share a base mold.

All dinobots aside from Swoop shared similar engineering in G1, similar to how many combiner components had similar engineering so this its to be expected that there are several similarities between them in this revamp. I already took it for granted that there would be some parts/engineering sharing among them.

I know this is never going to happen but I would love to see next year's May mayhem figure be paddles out of sludge. All they really need to do is replace the legs for flippers.

william-james88 wrote:

ExciKaiser wrote:I more think they did some stats and threw these more or less as random names in order to add choices, perfectly knowing they had no chances at all facing Magnus, Primal and such.

I am certain this is what happened too. Hasbro reads these forums, there were never gonna be plans for Arcee or Hound to be leaders, knowing all the other choices. I think we would have had a Primal as well regardless if he would have won. I highly doubt all the planning we see in those slides developped since February of this very year.

At the very least, some sort of plans or designs would have been drawn up for any possibility. Arcee or Hound winning were fairly - maybe extremely - unlikely, but I highly doubt a company as large, rich and successful like Hasbro would decide to completely discount it and be completely unprepared for the eventuality.

So, in the end, let's recap :

- Dinobots. Nothing to say here, they're perfect updates of the original characters. I wonder if we should wait if Takara plans to chrome them. The fact they combine is an added bonus which doesn't seem to impact a lot their individual modes. Adding a new member is nice, however it looks like she doesn't complete the combiner on any form. Must have.

- Micronus. No surprise here, I'm fan from the very first pic of the small pretender shells. I still think it's the only coherent way to update the broken concept of the initial pretenders and I'll defend them during all the duration of the line.
I already decided from the leaks I'll probably got all of them.
The only unknown point for me is how they'll combine to larger figures, I can't see attachement point, peg etc..

- Orion Pax / Optimus. I'm not really fan of Orion's design, especially the head. I know it's 100% cartoon accurate, but I was not fan of this part either, we were facing cartoon designer without imagination at this time. But the rest of the toy is cool and the combined form doesn't seem to suffer any kind of issue despite its constraints. Definitely must have.

- Hun-Gurr. Ouch. I'm not a GeeWun who will complain about the fact the tail is on his chest or wathever, don't care. But this beast mode is absolutely ridiculous, with the front atrophied legs, the silverbolt rear legs.. It'll be a pass from me I think. I guess it's the price to pay to have 5 new molds with the dinobots.

- RipperSnapper. Nothing to say. Looks decent. Let's wait the rest of the team before deciding what to do with him.

- MoonRacer. What a deception. I can't look away these feet. When it's impossible to be cartoon accurate, they should assume it instead of trying like this. I think I can easily say that most of us would have prefered bulky aromered legs like T30 Chromia, than this. Or maybe I'm wrong ? But for now, I think it'll be a pass. And I'm afraid Novastar will use the same mold.

- Optimus Primal. Let wait the colors, but I'll defend this one until the end. He looks fantastic and fun. Day one, I want a preorder, now.


I wasn't enthousiast about POTP after the SDCC. Two aerialbots repaints, terribly proportionated Starscream with terrible transformation, useless prime masters... The only good point was Rodimus.

I'm more confident now with what we seen here.

Qwan wrote:Hey, guess what everyone's gonna hate to hear? I've been examining the renders of the Dinobots (mostly because I just can't get enough of those beatiful things ) and I'm pretty sure Sludge and Slug share a base mold. Tip-offs include the shared guns, upper arms (which are oriented opposite to each other in dino mode since their torsos face different ways respectively) and basic engineering in the legs (I'm pretty sure the robot hips and upper legs are shared too but I can't tell because of the way Sludge is posed). They're still plenty different in both sculpt and non-leg engineering so it doesn't bother me personally, but since we're always looking for that fabled retool connection (someday we'll find it... the lovers, the dreamers and me) I thought I'd point it out.

(YET ANOTHER EDIT: It actually looks like their robot shin-pieces might be shared too, upon even further examination. But the fact that just the different deco and dino-legs-and-tail made it take so long for me to notice it, even when I was looking for shared parts, makes me feel like Hasbro knows what they're doing and have the differentiation under control. )

On a much more exciting Dinobot-related note, I'm now noticing in the renders that all the Deluxe-class guys (at least; can't be sure on Grimlock yet) have foot-pegs for TMs/PMs! (Snarl's seem to be on the inside of his spine-things-which-I-forget-the-name-of, so you'll have to flip them down like little platforms. I adore that.) It's not quite dino-saddles - though I still wouldn't put those out of the question yet either - but it's just yet another thing that gets me super-hyped for these dinos!

More annoyed the dinobots combine as it takes away from them. I know people want a Dino themed combiner but they could've made either a new team or use the pcc team and make them the combiner. Just takes away from who and what grimlock and Co are.

one prime is missing in the art, i checked

FireRoad wrote:one prime is missing in the art, i checked

If I had to guess... probably Optimus.


How does everyone feel about these symbols the Primes have now, actually? I think they're pretty cool.

Is it weird that Rippersnapper is the best looking of the four to me? He looks like a really neat generic Decepticon grunt. Hun-gurrr looks questionable, he really needs to be shown in color and without those feet on his arms for me to decide if I need Abominus. Moonracer looks rough. The limbs look too thin for her blocky torso and she appears to have a lot of junk in the trunk. And finally Optimus Primal. I think it's disheartening to see that the design team can't or doesn't want to improve designs even outside of G1. The Optimal Optimus robot mode has awful proportions and they could have tried to make them better ala the PE Beast Gorira. That being said I think everything else about him looks great. Does it suck that Primal doesn't turn into a monkey? Yes of course, but it does make for a neat homage to his Transmetal form.

Now that the reveals should be over shall we give some lists of all our wanted reveals?
Prime Masters: Micronus

Legends:
Beachcomber
Slash

Deluxes:
Dreadwind
Darkwing
Swoop
Slag
Rippersnapper

Voyagers:Grimlock

Leaders: Optimus Primal

Kurona wrote:

FireRoad wrote:one prime is missing in the art, i checked

If I had to guess... probably Optimus.


How does everyone feel about these symbols the Primes have now, actually? I think they're pretty cool.

I like 'em. Again, the Prime Masters being TR compatible is pretty awesome, as some of them (Liege Maximo especially) kinda look like abstract robot faces anyway.

I wonder how many people would have voted for Primal if they knew that the Primal toy they got would not turn into a gorilla.

Possible Thunderwing incoming?
Edit: turns out it's an abandoned concept for Megatronus deemed too obscure for regular release

I appreciate the inclusion of a hoverboard on Primal, but I think what I find most disappointing about this figure is that it doesn't LOOK like an improvement over the old Optimal Optimus toy. As much as I love the design, the toy is clunky as all hell. There was a third party remake of the figure put out recently that was so much more streamlined and stylized, taking full advantage of modern toy engineering. This looks no more articulated than the original 20-year-old figure. Hell, at the very least, I'd hoped that the canons would be able to retract into the chest

Kurona wrote:At the very least, some sort of plans or designs would have been drawn up for any possibility. Arcee or Hound winning were fairly - maybe extremely - unlikely, but I highly doubt a company as large, rich and successful like Hasbro would decide to completely discount it and be completely unprepared for the eventuality.

That of course assumes the poll wasnt rigged. All that design work for Primal suggests otherwise

SureShot18 wrote:Is it weird that Rippersnapper is the best looking of the four to me? He looks like a really neat generic Decepticon grunt.

He is the best looking of the four for the simple reason that he is exactly what fans hoped for. Taking cues from G1 and improving it as much as possible. Which in this case means making him look more lethal.

SureShot18 wrote:Is it weird that Rippersnapper is the best looking of the four to me? He looks like a really neat generic Decepticon grunt.

I think people would still have voted Primal simply because they wanted a classics primal for a long time, regardless of what he turned into. And plus, the art shown in the vote was him in a different body to his beast wars body so they kind of hinted at him having a different body all along.

As an update to the previous story about the new Transformers: Power of the Primes figures being shown at the Transformers area of Hascon, we have more images of the display cases with the same figures from different angles, and some new additions and alternate configurations for the likes of Starscream and his combined mode on the packaging art, Hot Rod / Rodimus Prime, Optimus Prime / Orion Pax, Dinobot Slash, the Blackwing and Dreadwind jets in their combined mode. Check out the images below!

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:At the very least, some sort of plans or designs would have been drawn up for any possibility. Arcee or Hound winning were fairly - maybe extremely - unlikely, but I highly doubt a company as large, rich and successful like Hasbro would decide to completely discount it and be completely unprepared for the eventuality.

That of course assumes the poll wasnt rigged. All that design work for Primal suggests otherwise.

Or they could have done up designs for all 9 candidates. Considering we've had Hasbro reps say previously that there's been a lot of planning and development towards the next few years, I wouldn't find that too hard to believe.

Why would Hasbro even have put out the poll if they were just going to rig it; especially when it isn't as in-depth and appealing as a make-a-new-character poll or as significant as choosing the next Titan?

Moonracer,Rippersnapper,Hun-garr,and Primal all look fantastic can not wait to get them.

Va'al wrote:As an update to the previous story about the new Transformers: Power of the Primes figures being shown at the Transformers area of Hascon, we have more images of the display cases with the same figures from different angles, and some new additions and alternate configurations for the likes of Starscream and his combined mode on the packaging art, Hot Rod / Rodimus Prime, Optimus Prime / Orion Pax, Dinobot Slash, the Blackwing and Dreadwind jets in their combined mode. Check out the images below!

looks like the Hotrod part of RP might be bigger than expected. makes me wonder if he'll scale well with TR Galvatron.

That deluxe Hot Rod is freaken amazing looking. I cant believe he looks so dead on for a toy that is supposedly quite simple in design.

I was staring at the Rodimus renders earlier today wondering how on earth the arms were supposed to connect in evolved mode. And now I get my answer! ... parts-forming! Yay...

Still, Hot Rod himself looks incredible. That one render shown on the slideshow back at SDCC had me a bit ambivalent about him, but he looks downright perfect here with his smooth angles, the finish on his chest and helmet, that spot-on facesculpt... and, most importantly, the very visible and very cool-looking spoiler! I almost regret getting the Titans Return figure!

If they ever want to temmper their G1 fetish down a bit - I'd love to see a CW compatible Dinobot Team where the Limbs & Torso are based on the PCC Dinobots - not to mention I'd be happy to see them keep cranking these out for years - I'd also like CW style versions of all the Kreo combiners too.

Heck several of the other PCC Designs would make very interesting toys at the different scale too, the advantage is we'd get expansions to existing premises (Like Dinobots & Constructicons) and yet also get new Characters - also a 5 part Construction combiner has repaint/remould potential for Takara to make into a version of 6 Builder or The Autobot Build team too.

But If they made that cute little Armoured Car or half track into a brand new robot that would be delightful or what about the Monster truck as a Voyager.

People keep hoping they'd make at least some new toys for a change and not just nostalgia farm exclusively - but perhaps you can get a "new toy feeling" by nostaliga farming more obscure things - as was done with Overlord I guess.

Also I do still really want a Proper Thunderwing sometime - so I hope it's not off the table for Prima or Megatronus to be the basis for him in some form - heck the existing mould or a new oner - either is really going to suit him as if you do an IDW's version you can make him a Torso unit and function like a true Mega Pretender too (pretty much). Or they could go for a more G1 look and use the Overlord mould family as the base (Prima looks quite close already). I don't mind if it's an exclusive or a boxed set or if it even take 2 years to show up _ I just think he's super appropriate.

Kind alike I wouldn't mind a CW Sunstorm sometime down the road too.

Kurona wrote:I was staring at the Rodimus renders earlier today wondering how on earth the arms were supposed to connect in evolved mode. And now I get my answer! ... parts-forming! Yay...

Still, Hot Rod himself looks incredible. That one render shown on the slideshow back at SDCC had me a bit ambivalent about him, but he looks downright perfect here with his smooth angles, the finish on his chest and helmet, that spot-on facesculpt... and, most importantly, the very visible and very cool-looking spoiler! I almost regret getting the Titans Return figure!

i dont see any reason for regret. look how big Hot Rod looks next to Blackwing (or is that Dreadwind). Hot Rod looks a bit bigger than a deluxe to me, possibly voyager size. I really want to see him in a side by side with Voyager Starscream or Galvatron now

You know, I've been thinking about it, and you know what that Rippersnapper would be great retooled as? A deluxe Repugnus. Am I right?