#HASCON 2017 Transformers Hall of Fame Susan Blu Induction Ceremony

Yo Ryan,

Its your old pal X riding out hurricane Irma and boy is she wet lol! Since im trapped inside and can use some entertainment, maybe you can offer us some tibits about non Transformers stuff at Hascon for s**t and giggles...

Did Dude perfect splash the crowd with supersoakers?

Did chewbacca mom eat 10 hot dogs during her pannel?

Did you hear the crickets chirping at the duengons and dragons display?

And what horrifying things did fans engage in at the MLP extravaganza?

Post some videos, share some stories, make us laugh ! Enquiring minds want to know...

Sabrblade wrote:I find it a little sad that the first question asked at the panel's Q&A was about the Brave Series.

Yeah, that's pretty poor. I hope there was an audible sound of all the eyes rolling.

DMSL wrote:The Dinobots look good, but Deluxe class is too small for these, they should all be at least Voyager class.

Especially since the Predacons are said to be all voyagers.

Congratulations to Susan Blu indeed. Doesn't she do a lot of directing of voice actors on the more recent shows?

There's far too much positivity about these figures. Allow me to counter.

I know this is the only way we'll ever get The Thirteen from Hasbro, but I'm still disappointed they're only Titan Masters. I'm hoping a third party will have a shot at them, maybe incorporate a compartment for the official figures to keep to gimmick alive.

Optimus Prime's vehicle mode isn't great, but I like the figure overall, just not sure I have a desire for it.

As for the Dinobots; oh, dear. I get that the clear plastic armour is a homage to G1, but using it on Snarl and Sludge's back legs is poor. Perhaps Sludge references his fate in FoC, having lost his legs and so now he has ghost legs. Swoop's alright, but the rest look a little cheap. The combined mode doesn't excite me either. The proportions are giving me flashbacks to FoC Bruticus. That's not only killed it for me, but inspired me to get a third party Dino-combiner.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Rated X I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say hope you're ok. I did something horrible folks, something you'll probably see the results of by the end of the week.

Thanks Chuck. So far so good here. Just trying to maintain. A little minor fence damage so far. Cant wait to see what you did...lol

Sabrblade wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Rated X I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say hope you're ok. I did something horrible folks, something you'll probably see the results of by the end of the week.

So, you are the one responsible for sending Irma my way.

J/K

She didnt like me...

But seriously I hope you and everybody makes it through safe with no major damage.

Rated X wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Rated X I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say hope you're ok. I did something horrible folks, something you'll probably see the results of by the end of the week.

So, you are the one responsible for sending Irma my way.

J/K

She didnt like me...

But seriously I hope you and everybody makes it through safe with no major damage.

Thanks. We're prepared and just trying to wait it out at this point.

So at the Prime Wars trilogy panel Hasbro showed some early concept art for Leader Prima and Megatronus, both of which look like they're made from the Titan Return Overlord mould:

Here's a link to every picture shown: http://tformers.com/update-leader-prima ... /news.html

But it was said at the panel that neither figure will be happening at any point, because they were deemed "too obscure to release in the toyline by Hasbro".


......."Too obscure"..............


Even though Megatronus was a major villain in Robots in Disguise recently. And he was in one of the Michael Bay films (albeit under his old name). And the Generations toyline recently featured the incredibly obscure Lione and Shuffler. And Power of the Primes is a toyline centered around Primes....

Just so people are aware, we do have our own imagery of the same panel, just coming later.

Video recordings need uploading and rendering, and screencaps need to be made.

Munkky wrote:But it was said at the panel that neither figure will be happening at any point, because they were deemed "too obscure to release in the toyline by Hasbro".


......."Too obscure"..............


Even though Megatronus was a major villain in Robots in Disguise recently. And he was in one of the Michael Bay films (albeit under his old name). And the Generations toyline recently featured the incredibly obscure Lione and Shuffler. And Power of the Primes is a toyline centered around Primes....

And let's not forget that the mold shown here was itself originally used for friggin' Sky Shadow

Kurona wrote:

Munkky wrote:But it was said at the panel that neither figure will be happening at any point, because they were deemed "too obscure to release in the toyline by Hasbro".


......."Too obscure"..............


Even though Megatronus was a major villain in Robots in Disguise recently. And he was in one of the Michael Bay films (albeit under his old name). And the Generations toyline recently featured the incredibly obscure Lione and Shuffler. And Power of the Primes is a toyline centered around Primes....

And let's not forget that the mold shown here was itself originally used for friggin' Sky Shadow

Not to mention the recent releases of Sawback/Lione, Shuffler, and an Optimus Prime colored like Star Convoy.

Ah, but see; those I could actually understand. Whether it's an obscure version of Optimus Prime or not; it's still an Optimus Prime toy and easily recognisable as him, so instant seller. Lione and Shuffler are incredibly obscure, no doubt about that; but they're small pocket money toys so you don't exactly need a lot of star power behind them.

But as the price point increases, you need more justification to buy the product. And one of the best ways is to attach a popular name like Megatron, Starscream or Soundwave to it. So that's why I could understand this applying to a Leader and not a Legends or Titan Master... except, again, friggin' Sky Shadow

Va'al wrote:You saw the coverage of the Transformers brand panel at Hascon, now you can check in for yourselves with more artwork, more comments, more points raised by the speakers and audience in the recording of the whole thing on on the Seibertron.com YouTube channel! Check out the clip embedded below, featuring Dinobots (including Slash and the combined Volcanicus), Allspark Tech, a new Optimus Prime and insight from both Takara and Hasbro designers.

seeing as were there, I'm surprised that no one asked them why their Trypticon is no different to the version

Big juicy gallery of Hascon Arcee

Stuartmaximus wrote:

Va'al wrote:You saw the coverage of the Transformers brand panel at Hascon, now you can check in for yourselves with more artwork, more comments, more points raised by the speakers and audience in the recording of the whole thing on on the Seibertron.com YouTube channel! Check out the clip embedded below, featuring Dinobots (including Slash and the combined Volcanicus), Allspark Tech, a new Optimus Prime and insight from both Takara and Hasbro designers.

seeing as were there, I'm surprised that no one asked them why their Trypticon is no different to the version

I know I'm not Takara, but if I had to guess, it's probably because it didn't need to be. I agree that it seems like a bad business-move to release the exact same thing at a higher price, but what could we possibly (reasonably) have asked for that Hasbro didn't already do? In this particular instance, I think it's more a case of Hasbro being really incredibly on the ball rather than Takara falling off of it.

People were trying to use the glossy wall's reflection to sneak a peak at the back of Starscream's box, so Hasbro later put a sheet of paper behind the box to stop that.

One really cool bonus of having a Transformers convention right near Hasbro's head office is that Hasbro can treat fans to lots of behind the scenes tidbits we wouldn't have elsewhere. In this particular case, Hasbro stocked Hascon full of Transformers grey models (finished prototypes) of various Transformers toys across many different lines. Plus, there were even some unreleased figures present like a movie Blaster from Dark of the Moon deluxe Soundwave as well as Prime Scraplets.

We have a whole gallery dedicated to these and you can click here or on any image below to get to it.

I'm assuming the yellow/grey plastic on Max is to show which parts are borrowed from metroplex? (It's normally either that or different materials eg softer plastic, which I don't believe max has). That's actually really neat to see!

Also, why is that scraplet alarmingly adorable

Inferno as a redeco of Soundwave looks amazing, I really wish they released that.

ArmadaPrime wrote:I'm assuming the yellow/grey plastic on Max is to show which parts are borrowed from metroplex? (It's normally either that or different materials eg softer plastic, which I don't believe max has). That's actually really neat to see!

Yeah, it looks like all the cream parts are those that were carried over from Metroplex, with the gray parts being new.

Don't really like the DOTM Blaster. If anything, I'd imagine a Movieverse Blaster being designed more like Movie 1 Stockade. Like the Scraplets set, but it's interesting to see WFC Bumblebee and FE Bumblebee in the same set (I know Hasbro made the Aligned continuity have both the games and the show together, but besides Arms Micron Shockwave (reuse of FOC Shockwave), we never got any two packs like this that acknowledge the connection between WFC/FOC and Prime.

Sunburnninja wrote:Inferno as a redeco of Soundwave looks amazing, I really wish they released that.

That's Blaster.

A live action film series Blaster.. WHY DIDN'T WE GET THIS!?

Qwan wrote:I know I'm not Takara, but if I had to guess, it's probably because it didn't need to be. I agree that it seems like a bad business-move to release the exact same thing at a higher price, but what could we possibly (reasonably) have asked for that Hasbro didn't already do?

Paint on the Titan Master for one.

Plus a darker grey plastic to be more show accurate.

Plus, he wasnt released at a higher price. Isnt Trypticon $299 AUD where you are? Thats 26080 Yen and he's currently being sold for 15682 Yen at Japanese retail so about $179 AUD. Its Hasbro (well more like your local TRU) who is selling the same thing at a higher price.

Anyways, its all different markets, Hasbro and Takara arent competing for our dollars, and on average both Legends Trypticon and Titans Return Trypticon sold for the same amount in their respective markets.

Kurona wrote:People were trying to use the glossy wall's reflection to sneak a peak at the back of Starscream's box, so Hasbro later put a sheet of paper behind the box to stop that.

I dont know why, the back of POTP Voyagers dont have cross sells of different classes and dont show the combined mode. They only show the official images we already saw plus the power masters you can plug into them.

Sabrblade wrote:

ArmadaPrime wrote:I'm assuming the yellow/grey plastic on Max is to show which parts are borrowed from metroplex? (It's normally either that or different materials eg softer plastic, which I don't believe max has). That's actually really neat to see!

Yeah, it looks like all the cream parts are those that were carried over from Metroplex, with the gray parts being new.

Man, that made me realize that Fort Max reuses the Metroplex runways. I dont own Metroplex so I never connected that aspect. Man, now I am pissed again that it couldnt be ramps like in G1 to both increase playability and cover those damn fists

Pretty interesting gallery to say the least.

- Indeed, the yellow parts on the Fortress Maximus prototype are repurposed from Metroplex. Quite a lot actually, I'd say between 30% and 40%.
- the TR Megatron is a hybrid, as it uses the Blitzwing chest and not the Megatron one. Oops?
- DotM Skywarp, Blaster, G2-colored Space Case... Battle Damaged WfC and Prime FE Bumblebee with Scraplets. So much lost potential

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:- DotM Skywarp

But we did get that one.

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:- DotM Skywarp

But we did get that one.

Via TakaraTomy, but not via Hasbro. Note how there are some deco differences between the two:


Transformers Dark of the Moon Skywarp Gallery

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Pretty interesting gallery to say the least.
[...]
- the TR Megatron is a hybrid, as it uses the Blitzwing chest and not the Megatron one. Oops?

And Blitzwing's tank barrel too. In fact it looks like this might just be Blitzwing with Megatron's head, possibly from the earlier stages of secondary-use planning. (Though without colors, where does the point of differentiation lie between Blitz and Megs anyway?)

william-james88 wrote:

Qwan wrote:I know I'm not Takara, but if I had to guess, it's probably because it didn't need to be. I agree that it seems like a bad business-move to release the exact same thing at a higher price, but what could we possibly (reasonably) have asked for that Hasbro didn't already do?

Paint on the Titan Master for one.

Plus a darker grey plastic to be more show accurate.

Fair points, though I'm inclined to agree with the idea I've seen floating around that perhaps the darker shade of grey is being reserved for a hypothetical Gigastorm (some sort of exclusive, probably, if it does happen by some small chance). Painted Titan Master though, I'll admit I totally forgot about that one. Points conceded.

william-james88 wrote:Plus, he wasnt released at a higher price. Isnt Trypticon $299 AUD where you are? Thats 26080 Yen and he's currently being sold for 15682 Yen at Japanese retail so about $179 AUD. Its Hasbro (well more like your local TRU) who is selling the same thing at a higher price.

Anyways, its all different markets, Hasbro and Takara arent competing for our dollars, and on average both Legends Trypticon and Titans Return Trypticon sold for the same amount in their respective markets.

Yeah, you're right! I guess I confused import costs with actual cost of the item; I tend to forget sometimes that Takara is first and foremost a toy company for Japan, rather than a collectables service that operates out of Japan for us Westerners to get our fancy toys.

Qwan wrote: I tend to forget sometimes that Takara is first and foremost a toy company for Japan, rather than a collectables service that operates out of Japan for us Westerners to get our fancy toys.

happens to the best of us

I mean I totally get where you are coming from when people weigh pros and cons and take the complete cost into account, makes sense. But here we were talking about business decisions, and Takara sees 0 extra profit from the extra fee importers add to those product to recoup their costs.

So no Predaking at all? Hasbro is saving him for a later reveal? And we only saw 2 Terrorcons.

Rodimus Prime wrote:So no Predaking at all? Hasbro is saving him for a later reveal? And we only saw 2 Terrorcons.

Toy Fair 2018, right?

No captions.

Context is king.

As the buzz from the reveals at Hascon 2017 this weekend winds down, it might be easy to forget that the brand new convention had an exclusive Transformers figure and an early access Transformers figure - Power Bank Optimus Prime and Titans Return Arcee respectively! While many have gotten their hands on the two by now, they will be sold online as of September 20th. Click here for Arcee ($24.99), click here for Power Bank Optimus Prime ($49.99), and click the image below to go to the entire Hascon Exclusives shop before telling us what you think in the forums!

Not "available UNTIL 9/20" -- they're "available STARTING 9/20".

mblase75 wrote:Not "available UNTIL 9/20" -- they're "available STARTING 9/20".

It's already been edited, don't worry.

Rysquad wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:So no Predaking at all? Hasbro is saving him for a later reveal? And we only saw 2 Terrorcons.

Toy Fair 2018, right?

NYCC October 5 – 8, 2017

kinda pricey. will these be available in stores?

Kurona wrote:As the buzz from the reveals at Hascon 2017 this weekend winds down, it might be easy to forget that the brand new convention had an exclusive Transformers figure and an early access Transformers figure - Power Bank Optimus Prime and Titans Return Arcee respectively! While many have gotten their hands on the two by now, they will be sold online as of September 20th. Click here for Arcee ($24.99), click here for Power Bank Optimus Prime ($49.99), and click the image below to go to the entire Hascon Exclusives shop before telling us what you think in the forums!

Hopefully they won't be all gone in 5 seconds like Primitive Prime was.

Kyleor wrote:Hopefully they won't be all gone in 5 seconds like Primitive Prime was.

Good luck with that. These may go faster given its a smaller price point of a figure fans have been craving.

griftimus prime wrote:kinda pricey. will these be available in stores?

Arcee might be a retailer exclusive (like BBTS exclusive or Amazon exclusive or something like that) but that power bank wont be available anywhere else.

It would be nice to know more about the production number of Arcee / Ultra Magnus. Is it more or less them Primitive Prime? I would hope that they'd planned on making a lot of these considering the characters and the number of people who want them.

I'm hoping all your Florida guys are riding it out ok. Frikkin hurricanes. Stay safe!

WreckerJack wrote:This year's fan favorites have been determined. The favorite Transformers character this year is Galvatron, while Barricade has won the Favorite Transformers Movie character category. Lastly, Trypticon has won the Toy of the Year award. It has been a good year for Decepticons!

I'm glad Barricade won. Love him as a movie guy!

Kurona wrote:People were trying to use the glossy wall's reflection to sneak a peak at the back of Starscream's box, so Hasbro later put a sheet of paper behind the box to stop that.

Looking at this image, it appears that Starscream is set to follow a Silverbolt/Cyclonus styled transformation and combining Shtick. After all, Galvatronus' chest always did look like a seekers and his head crest could pass for a starscream crown!

Sabrblade wrote:

Sunburnninja wrote:Inferno as a redeco of Soundwave looks amazing, I really wish they released that.

That's Blaster.

That Blaster actually looks really cool. I like it! And the Scraplet is adorable!

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I'm hoping all your Florida guys are riding it out ok. Frikkin hurricanes. Stay safe!

We (me and the family) just got through the worst of it last night. Turns out it barely did anything to us. No loss of electricity. No real damage. No flooding. Nothing really. We're good here.

Sabrblade wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I'm hoping all your Florida guys are riding it out ok. Frikkin hurricanes. Stay safe!

We (me and the family) just got through the worst of it last night. Turns out it barely did anything to us. No loss of electricity. No real damage. No flooding. Nothing really. We're good here.

Great to hear.

Hopefully Arcee will be an online exclusive since the Hasbro Shop doesn't ship to Europe

Don't forget that HTS doesn't allow promo codes for exclusives. If applicable to Arcee, total cost will be north of $30 after shipping and tax. A little harder to swallow for basically a deluxe.

Here's my review of power bank prime:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQZJoU3JiPM

Overall I think he's a super fun awesome figure.

Here's my review of power bank prime:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQZJoU3JiPM

Overall I think he's a super fun awesome figure.

EDIT: sorry for the double post!

FYI the links for the exclusives go to Hasbro.com and not Hasbro Toy Shop. Unless they're hidden away somewhere that I can't find on the site the exclusives aren't up yet on HTS.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:FYI the links for the exclusives go to Hasbro.com and not Hasbro Toy Shop. Unless they're hidden away somewhere that I can't find on the site the exclusives aren't up yet on HTS.

As the story says, they will be available from 20 September.

Who's that Lockdown remold? An early Hot Rod?

I'll share my thoughts on the reveals now that Hascon is over.

-The Dinobots look really good, and I'm glad to get versions of them instead of having to use the AOE repaints or any 3rd party versions. While I'd prefer the FOC designs so they can go with FOC Grimlock, these are still great to get; after all, what better way to make a Dinobot group after we got the AOE versions (which I regret selling bar Grimlock). Volcanicus is something I could care less for. Unless I am really bored or if there is a heavy retool of the Dinobots, I won't be combining the Dinobots anytime soon.

-Jazz and Starscream are figures I would really use, since I don't have a Special Ops Jazz and Classics Starscream is too small next to my Voyager Megatron (from the same line), so I'll happily make do with these figures. Onto eBay for Classics Starscream (unless someone here wants to buy mine). Plus, I like the IDW design of Starscream more than the G1 cartoon version; makes him look more like a threat (oh, and I'm a sucker for F-22 Raptors thanks to Movie Starscream).

-Not into Dreadwind and Blackwing; planning on finding G2 Dreadwing and Smokescreen instead.

-I actually want Beachcomber over Slash. Compared to most of the Minibots, I like Comby a lot since his pacifist charm makes me like him more than a lot of Season 2 Autobots. Golden Lagoon is my #1 favorite G1 episode of all time, and I'm dying to buy another one and paint his hand gold. Slash is neat, but I'll wait until I get 'Comber, Bee, Brawn, Windcharger, Powerglide, and Wheelie.

-Leader Optimus and Rodimus aren't too bad; I'm more into getting Hot Rod from TR as a normal Hot Rod and use the POTP version as a Rodimus if he scales well with Voyagers. Optimus will have to wait until I get MPM-04 Optimus AND a Voyager scaled Prime for the altmode (POTP Prime is gonna be small, I feel). Shame there's no Combat Deck.

-Not into getting the bots shown in gray prototype form EXCEPT for Optimus Primal. I'm bummed that Hasbro opted to not release the BW Masterpieces here (which would be great instead of rereleasing MP-10 for the 100th time), so I guess this Leader will make do (hope Hasbro releases BW Megs or I'm customizing TLK Scorn). Sorry, Terrorcons and etc.

-Could care less for Prime Masters lol.

-Predaking from what's seen is looking good. Hope HasTak learn from their mistakes with Devastator.

-Disappointed that we didn't get any info on Onslaught, Mohawk, and Dreadbot. Also bummed out that there was no info on the 2018 Movie toys since The Bumblebee Movie won't have much to offer, toywise. And what about MPM-5 Barricade? I'm hoping that HasTak gets onto makimg him now that he won "Best Movie Character".

-Speaking of, yay for all Decepticons winning the poll! Still funny how Trypticon won best toy of the year despite having crappy hip ratchets. I'd more likely vote for TR Nautica, Leader Blaster, or the MPM figures if they were available.

So that concludes my thoughts on Hascon. Hopefully, we'd get more stuff shown at NYCC 2017.