Even More Promo Images - Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide

huryochagi wrote:He really looks like a guy in cosplay.

Amelie wrote:If they spent more time thinking about the action figure itself rather than gimmicky crap - we'd have a better toy. I don't really want masses of accessories - there are 3rd party companies that can provide that - what I want is a tidy figure.

SillySpringer wrote:Ahhh man, I don't have any MPs yet and I don't know which one to get first. I think this Ironhide may not be the best MP, but it looks pretty damn good. I wanna get a few of the car bots first though. I still want the Soundwave mold. ARGGGGG I am soooo behind!

SillySpringer wrote:Uh, what's with the hollow looking fingers?

Railbomb wrote:Does he have MP Bee's gun painted in silver in one of those pictures?

Seibertron wrote:

Seibertron wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Seibertron wrote:The head sculpt is what bothers me most. I'm not splitting hairs, it just doesn't look good. I could probably deal with the rest of his flaws if his head was spot on to the Ironhide head, which is really simple to draw, not sure what this was such a challenge for them to get right.

Can I ask what's not right about the head sculpt to you? It looks fine to me, and I think some of the promotional photography gives it a bit of a "stretched look," but "in hand" pics show it to be a little more proportional. The head and face look like Ironhide to me, and not like anyone else, so I'm not sure that's "wrong" with it to some.

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It's Ironhide's face ... it's just not right! The jawline needs to be more squared off, his face is too thin, it slopes down toward his chin, instead of being a more rectangular face. This is another example of where they take the source material too seriously ... I don't think anyone would have complained about him having a silver face, but instead they gave him this oddly painted face similar to what they did with Bumblebee which dulls the details such as the facial lines. The eyes aren't big enough. The nose isn't wide enough. The bottom of the nose is too close to the upper lip. The nose is also too long. The lines along the side of his face should be very defined yet they can hardly be seen, same problem on Bumblebee's face.

If you guys can't see the many things wrong with Ironhide's face, not sure what to tell you guys. The smallest details can make the biggest differences. Masterpiece Prowl and Wheeljack set the bar ... Ironhide is a disappointment after them. It especially sucks with Ironhide because we keep hoping we'll get a great Ironhide/Ratchet toy at some point but continue to be disappointed with release after release.

And my opinion still stands about his face. Nose is too small or too long or something. Jaw line/sides of face should be more rectangular. All you have to do is look at his character model! Ironhide has one of the easiest Transformers faces to draw. I'm bummed they got this wrong!

phantom1592 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:Ahhh man, I don't have any MPs yet and I don't know which one to get first. I think this Ironhide may not be the best MP, but it looks pretty damn good. I wanna get a few of the car bots first though. I still want the Soundwave mold. ARGGGGG I am soooo behind!

MP-10 Optimus is a glorious centerpiece for the MP line... and Prowl is a personal favorite of mine.

Starscream and Soundwave are probably be the two I want the most that I don't have yet....

getting behind on these SUCKS

huryochagi wrote:His robot mode looks like a parody on Ironhide. He really looks like a guy in cosplay. The first picture looks as if he says 'Can I get out of this costume already?!' His head being the worst. Most mistakes of his head have been mentioned. His helmet should go straight down. They made it wrap in a sphere shape.

On the positive side, they took effort to make the bumper to have the 'T'-shape in robot mode like the cartoon. His lower body is alright to me, although his diaper should be smaller.

I'm definitely skipping this one.

digktialx wrote:Yeah I'm not sure on this Ironhide either. He was never a must buy for me since I didn't like the toy (for obvious reasons) and the character in the cartoon. I'd be more interested to see the Ratchet variation but even then I'm still on the fence about picking Ratchet up.

-dx

Mr_Autobot411 wrote:hes a good attempt, but he seems off, the head sculpt im not digging at all, doesnt remind me of ironhide.

this is the weirdest mp release ive come across.........

SillySpringer wrote:

Mr_Autobot411 wrote:hes a good attempt, but he seems off, the head sculpt im not digging at all, doesnt remind me of ironhide.

this is the weirdest mp release ive come across.........

...you mean besides MP Megatron?

fenrir72 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

Mr_Autobot411 wrote:hes a good attempt, but he seems off, the head sculpt im not digging at all, doesnt remind me of ironhide.

this is the weirdest mp release ive come across.........

...you mean besides MP Megatron?

The face was kind of based on this

william-james88 wrote:I love MP Megatron. And while the proportions may be better on Appolyon (which I own), the engineering and transformation hasnt really improved dramatically since, showing how influencial this toy is.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I love MP Megatron. And while the proportions may be better on Appolyon (which I own), the engineering and transformation hasnt really improved dramatically since, showing how influencial this toy is.

Still, it really shows how much more could have been done to improve MP Megatron had the figure's designer been given more than a mere 12 days to design it.

SillySpringer wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

Mr_Autobot411 wrote:hes a good attempt, but he seems off, the head sculpt im not digging at all, doesnt remind me of ironhide.

this is the weirdest mp release ive come across.........

...you mean besides MP Megatron?

The face was kind of based on this

It's not the face I'm talking about, it's the whole thing.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Despite all the nitpicks you guys have, I have a good feeling toward this Ironhide. Not only is the price perfectly fair, but it look like a pretty fun toy to fiddle with. Can't wait for Febuary 2016 to finally have my hands on it!

fenrir72 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Despite all the nitpicks you guys have, I have a good feeling toward this Ironhide. Not only is the price perfectly fair, but it look like a pretty fun toy to fiddle with. Can't wait for Febuary 2016 to finally have my hands on it!

Zat avatar/sig of yours, is that a humanized Arcee?

fenrir72 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Despite all the nitpicks you guys have, I have a good feeling toward this Ironhide. Not only is the price perfectly fair, but it look like a pretty fun toy to fiddle with. Can't wait for Febuary 2016 to finally have my hands on it!

Zat avatar/sig of yours, is that a humanized Arcee?

Sabrblade wrote:"Humanized Arcee" = "bearded viking"?

fenrir72 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

Mr_Autobot411 wrote:hes a good attempt, but he seems off, the head sculpt im not digging at all, doesnt remind me of ironhide.

this is the weirdest mp release ive come across.........

...you mean besides MP Megatron?

The face was kind of based on this

It's not the face I'm talking about, it's the whole thing.

He was talking about the headsculpt. And, about the whole design of Megs, which part of him was innacurate to the show/movie/toy? Even 3rd party Apollyon and Hegemon borrowed heavily from the lanky original (only buffed up)

SillySpringer wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

Mr_Autobot411 wrote:hes a good attempt, but he seems off, the head sculpt im not digging at all, doesnt remind me of ironhide.

this is the weirdest mp release ive come across.........

...you mean besides MP Megatron?

The face was kind of based on this

It's not the face I'm talking about, it's the whole thing.

He was talking about the headsculpt. And, about the whole design of Megs, which part of him was innacurate to the show/movie/toy? Even 3rd party Apollyon and Hegemon borrowed heavily from the lanky original (only buffed up)

Agreed, but they took those ideas and did it right.
I do think they could've done better with MP Megs though if they had more time to work on it.
Ironhide definitely looks better than this Megs, but still I have higher priorities.

fenrir72 wrote:That's what I mean, The base design of Megs is one of the iffyest. How the heck do you make a buffed figure in such a compacted alternate form? Arrgh!

Sabrblade wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:That's what I mean, The base design of Megs is one of the iffyest. How the heck do you make a buffed figure in such a compacted alternate form? Arrgh!

The Reveal the Shield Legends (Legion) class toy did it:

fenrir72 wrote:As I often mention, seeing it in person is different from the PC monitor.

Sabrblade wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:That's what I mean, The base design of Megs is one of the iffyest. How the heck do you make a buffed figure in such a compacted alternate form? Arrgh!

The Reveal the Shield Legends (Legion) class toy did it:

Sabrblade wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:That's what I mean, The base design of Megs is one of the iffyest. How the heck do you make a buffed figure in such a compacted alternate form? Arrgh!

The Reveal the Shield Legends (Legion) class toy did it:
(images)

Burn wrote:I'm sure you guys could find a MP Megatron thread out there to discuss MP Megatron in.

fenrir72 wrote:As I often mention, seeing it in person is different from the PC monitor.

This. So much this. And as fenrir72 said, be wary of slanted reviews. Heck, just go with my attitude and buy whatever you like, and if they don't turn out to be good figures, you can get rid of them.

Ironhide? He may not be perfect, but I'm quite happy with him. I don't get MP figures for the play value, I get them because they look good in the collection, and he looks good enough for me!

SillySpringer wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:That's what I mean, The base design of Megs is one of the iffyest. How the heck do you make a buffed figure in such a compacted alternate form? Arrgh!

The Reveal the Shield Legends (Legion) class toy did it:
(images)

I actually would rather get that toy than MP Megatron.

Burn wrote:I'm sure you guys could find a MP Megatron thread out there to discuss MP Megatron in.

fenrir72 wrote:As I often mention, seeing it in person is different from the PC monitor.

This. So much this. And as fenrir72 said, be wary of slanted reviews. Heck, just go with my attitude and buy whatever you like, and if they don't turn out to be good figures, you can get rid of them.

Ironhide? He may not be perfect, but I'm quite happy with him. I don't get MP figures for the play value, I get them because they look good in the collection, and he looks good enough for me!

I didn't say he's a bad figure, I just mean that I have to pick the best ones out of the bunch. I don't have any MPs yet, so it's quite hard for me to decide who to get first. Personally, I think I need to focus on the car bots first, and at least get whatever versions of the Lambor and Prowl molds I can. I also want Wheeljack, and a lot of others. I have a limited amount of figures to get each year so it's really a pain.

fenrir72 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:That's what I mean, The base design of Megs is one of the iffyest. How the heck do you make a buffed figure in such a compacted alternate form? Arrgh!

The Reveal the Shield Legends (Legion) class toy did it:
(images)

I actually would rather get that toy than MP Megatron.

Burn wrote:I'm sure you guys could find a MP Megatron thread out there to discuss MP Megatron in.

fenrir72 wrote:As I often mention, seeing it in person is different from the PC monitor.

This. So much this. And as fenrir72 said, be wary of slanted reviews. Heck, just go with my attitude and buy whatever you like, and if they don't turn out to be good figures, you can get rid of them.

Ironhide? He may not be perfect, but I'm quite happy with him. I don't get MP figures for the play value, I get them because they look good in the collection, and he looks good enough for me!

I didn't say he's a bad figure, I just mean that I have to pick the best ones out of the bunch. I don't have any MPs yet, so it's quite hard for me to decide who to get first. Personally, I think I need to focus on the car bots first, and at least get whatever versions of the Lambor and Prowl molds I can. I also want Wheeljack, and a lot of others. I have a limited amount of figures to get each year so it's really a pain.

You won't regret WJ though there'r KOs of him already unfortunately.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Despite all the nitpicks you guys have, I have a good feeling toward this Ironhide. Not only is the price perfectly fair, but it look like a pretty fun toy to fiddle with. Can't wait for Febuary 2016 to finally have my hands on it!

Zat avatar/sig of yours, is that a humanized Arcee?

Yes it is! And she have her hand full of Megs!

Sabrblade wrote:"Humanized Arcee" = "bearded viking"?

He probably meant the signature.

SillySpringer wrote:I didn't say he's a bad figure,

Burn wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:I didn't say he's a bad figure,

Did anyone say you did?