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Re: Takara Tomy MP-27 Ironhide Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:39 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:Despite all the nitpicks you guys have, I have a good feeling toward this Ironhide. Not only is the price perfectly fair, but it look like a pretty fun toy to fiddle with. Can't wait for Febuary 2016 to finally have my hands on it!


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Re: Takara Tomy MP-27 Ironhide Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:54 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:Despite all the nitpicks you guys have, I have a good feeling toward this Ironhide. Not only is the price perfectly fair, but it look like a pretty fun toy to fiddle with. Can't wait for Febuary 2016 to finally have my hands on it!


Zat avatar/sig of yours, is that a humanized Arcee?


Yes it is! And she have her hand full of Megs! :-P

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Re: Takara Tomy MP-27 Ironhide Discussion Thread

Postby DedicatedGhostArt » Sun Sep 13, 2015 11:53 am

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SillySpringer wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
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Mr_Autobot411 wrote:hes a good attempt, but he seems off, the head sculpt im not digging at all, doesnt remind me of ironhide.

this is the weirdest mp release ive come across......... :BOT: :CON:


...you mean besides MP Megatron?
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The face was kind of based on this


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It's not the face I'm talking about, it's the whole thing. >:oP


He was talking about the headsculpt. And, about the whole design of Megs, which part of him was innacurate to the show/movie/toy? Even 3rd party Apollyon and Hegemon borrowed heavily from the lanky original (only buffed up) >:oP


Agreed, but they took those ideas and did it right.
I do think they could've done better with MP Megs though if they had more time to work on it. :CON:
Ironhide definitely looks better than this Megs, but still I have higher priorities.
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Re: Takara Tomy MP-27 Ironhide Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:32 pm

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He may be a bit off, but he still looks really good to me. I'd be happy to own him :BOT:
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Re: Takara Tomy MP-27 Ironhide Discussion Thread

Postby Deathsaurus1 » Sun Sep 13, 2015 3:08 pm

I personally think Ironhide looks great!
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Re: Takara Tomy MP-27 Ironhide Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:41 pm

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SillySpringer wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
Mr_Autobot411 wrote:hes a good attempt, but he seems off, the head sculpt im not digging at all, doesnt remind me of ironhide.

this is the weirdest mp release ive come across......... :BOT: :CON:


...you mean besides MP Megatron?
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The face was kind of based on this


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It's not the face I'm talking about, it's the whole thing. >:oP


He was talking about the headsculpt. And, about the whole design of Megs, which part of him was innacurate to the show/movie/toy? Even 3rd party Apollyon and Hegemon borrowed heavily from the lanky original (only buffed up) >:oP


Agreed, but they took those ideas and did it right.
I do think they could've done better with MP Megs though if they had more time to work on it. :CON:
Ironhide definitely looks better than this Megs, but still I have higher priorities.


That's what I mean, The base design of Megs is one of the iffyest. How the heck do you make a buffed figure in such a compacted alternate form? Arrgh!

Btw, SS. Don't let the negativity towards IH deter you. That's my main point. Read/watch the reviews(beware of slanted ones) if possible but at times the figs are all sold out. Don't let the opportunity to own one pass by just because some have a chip on the shoulder on his face or hip panels.

As I often mention, seeing it in person is different from the PC monitor.
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Re: Takara Tomy MP-27 Ironhide Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Sep 13, 2015 10:03 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:That's what I mean, The base design of Megs is one of the iffyest. How the heck do you make a buffed figure in such a compacted alternate form? Arrgh!
The Reveal the Shield Legends (Legion) class toy did it:
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Re: Takara Tomy MP-27 Ironhide Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Sep 13, 2015 10:08 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:That's what I mean, The base design of Megs is one of the iffyest. How the heck do you make a buffed figure in such a compacted alternate form? Arrgh!
The Reveal the Shield Legends (Legion) class toy did it:
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Re: Takara Tomy MP-27 Ironhide Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Sun Sep 13, 2015 10:52 pm

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I'm sure you guys could find a MP Megatron thread out there to discuss MP Megatron in. ;)

fenrir72 wrote:As I often mention, seeing it in person is different from the PC monitor.

This. So much this. And as fenrir72 said, be wary of slanted reviews. Heck, just go with my attitude and buy whatever you like, and if they don't turn out to be good figures, you can get rid of them.

Ironhide? He may not be perfect, but I'm quite happy with him. I don't get MP figures for the play value, I get them because they look good in the collection, and he looks good enough for me!
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Re: Takara Tomy MP-27 Ironhide Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Sun Sep 13, 2015 10:52 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:That's what I mean, The base design of Megs is one of the iffyest. How the heck do you make a buffed figure in such a compacted alternate form? Arrgh!
The Reveal the Shield Legends (Legion) class toy did it:
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Yah! Bullseye! But...........once you put in the gimmicks (his abdomen for example is exposed) while in gunform. The original toy is collapsed. And the chamber for the heart of Cybertron and folding in his fists and foot. Not to mention the head and barrel chamber that folds out on his back.

And...........he is so hollow :lol:

Btw, I own the TT version of that fig which really floors the HB version. Anyway, hoping TT gets around and designs a MP Megatron ver 2 soon. And Ratchet by June 2016 (it's coming guys.you know it is :twisted: )

Edit:

Deviating a bit. Tracks is scheduled for Early November 2015. Iirc he was for September. A delay of extra 2 months. I'm assuming IH is more intricate in engineering transformation. Maybe more transforming parts.

He is given a street date release of January 2016. Maybe by the 1st week of February. Given the info we have plus factoring the possible delays, I predict he'll be out by March 2016.
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Re: Takara Tomy MP-27 Ironhide Discussion Thread

Postby DedicatedGhostArt » Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:50 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:That's what I mean, The base design of Megs is one of the iffyest. How the heck do you make a buffed figure in such a compacted alternate form? Arrgh!
The Reveal the Shield Legends (Legion) class toy did it:
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I actually would rather get that toy than MP Megatron. >:oP
Burn wrote:I'm sure you guys could find a MP Megatron thread out there to discuss MP Megatron in. ;)

fenrir72 wrote:As I often mention, seeing it in person is different from the PC monitor.

This. So much this. And as fenrir72 said, be wary of slanted reviews. Heck, just go with my attitude and buy whatever you like, and if they don't turn out to be good figures, you can get rid of them.

Ironhide? He may not be perfect, but I'm quite happy with him. I don't get MP figures for the play value, I get them because they look good in the collection, and he looks good enough for me!

I didn't say he's a bad figure, I just mean that I have to pick the best ones out of the bunch. I don't have any MPs yet, so it's quite hard for me to decide who to get first. Personally, I think I need to focus on the car bots first, and at least get whatever versions of the Lambor and Prowl molds I can. I also want Wheeljack, and a lot of others. I have a limited amount of figures to get each year so it's really a pain. :BANG_HEAD:
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Re: Takara Tomy MP-27 Ironhide Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:00 pm

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SillySpringer wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:That's what I mean, The base design of Megs is one of the iffyest. How the heck do you make a buffed figure in such a compacted alternate form? Arrgh!
The Reveal the Shield Legends (Legion) class toy did it:
(images)

I actually would rather get that toy than MP Megatron. >:oP
Burn wrote:I'm sure you guys could find a MP Megatron thread out there to discuss MP Megatron in. ;)

fenrir72 wrote:As I often mention, seeing it in person is different from the PC monitor.

This. So much this. And as fenrir72 said, be wary of slanted reviews. Heck, just go with my attitude and buy whatever you like, and if they don't turn out to be good figures, you can get rid of them.

Ironhide? He may not be perfect, but I'm quite happy with him. I don't get MP figures for the play value, I get them because they look good in the collection, and he looks good enough for me!

I didn't say he's a bad figure, I just mean that I have to pick the best ones out of the bunch. I don't have any MPs yet, so it's quite hard for me to decide who to get first. Personally, I think I need to focus on the car bots first, and at least get whatever versions of the Lambor and Prowl molds I can. I also want Wheeljack, and a lot of others. I have a limited amount of figures to get each year so it's really a pain. :BANG_HEAD:


You won't regret WJ though there'r KOs of him already unfortunately.
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Re: Takara Tomy MP-27 Ironhide Discussion Thread

Postby DedicatedGhostArt » Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:33 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:That's what I mean, The base design of Megs is one of the iffyest. How the heck do you make a buffed figure in such a compacted alternate form? Arrgh!
The Reveal the Shield Legends (Legion) class toy did it:
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I actually would rather get that toy than MP Megatron. >:oP
Burn wrote:I'm sure you guys could find a MP Megatron thread out there to discuss MP Megatron in. ;)

fenrir72 wrote:As I often mention, seeing it in person is different from the PC monitor.

This. So much this. And as fenrir72 said, be wary of slanted reviews. Heck, just go with my attitude and buy whatever you like, and if they don't turn out to be good figures, you can get rid of them.

Ironhide? He may not be perfect, but I'm quite happy with him. I don't get MP figures for the play value, I get them because they look good in the collection, and he looks good enough for me!

I didn't say he's a bad figure, I just mean that I have to pick the best ones out of the bunch. I don't have any MPs yet, so it's quite hard for me to decide who to get first. Personally, I think I need to focus on the car bots first, and at least get whatever versions of the Lambor and Prowl molds I can. I also want Wheeljack, and a lot of others. I have a limited amount of figures to get each year so it's really a pain. :BANG_HEAD:


You won't regret WJ though there'r KOs of him already unfortunately.


I know I know. I'm trying. :BANG_HEAD:
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Re: Takara Tomy MP-27 Ironhide Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:06 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:Despite all the nitpicks you guys have, I have a good feeling toward this Ironhide. Not only is the price perfectly fair, but it look like a pretty fun toy to fiddle with. Can't wait for Febuary 2016 to finally have my hands on it!


Zat avatar/sig of yours, is that a humanized Arcee?


Yes it is! And she have her hand full of Megs! :-P

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He probably meant the signature. :lol:



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Re: Takara Tomy MP-27 Ironhide Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:17 am

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SillySpringer wrote:I didn't say he's a bad figure,


Did anyone say you did? ;)
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Re: Takara Tomy MP-27 Ironhide Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:26 am

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SillySpringer wrote:I didn't say he's a bad figure,


Did anyone say you did? ;)


I've never picked up any masterpieces, and while I certainly wouldn't start with him, I was wondering, how do they hold up as 'action figures'? I certainly wouldn't be playing with it, but how do they hold up to being fiddled with, and transformed a lot?
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Re: Takara Tomy MP-27 Ironhide Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:55 am

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Burn wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:I didn't say he's a bad figure,


Did anyone say you did? ;)


I've never picked up any masterpieces, and while I certainly wouldn't start with him, I was wondering, how do they hold up as 'action figures'? I certainly wouldn't be playing with it, but how do they hold up to being fiddled with, and transformed a lot?


Poseable, almost 100% except UM hwo can't twist his waist.
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Re: Takara Tomy MP-27 Ironhide Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:16 am

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fenrir72 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Burn wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:I didn't say he's a bad figure,


Did anyone say you did? ;)


I've never picked up any masterpieces, and while I certainly wouldn't start with him, I was wondering, how do they hold up as 'action figures'? I certainly wouldn't be playing with it, but how do they hold up to being fiddled with, and transformed a lot?


Poseable, almost 100% except UM hwo can't twist his waist.


I meant quality wise, I've heard some don't stand up to handling, like starscream (2nd version, chest assembly)
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Re: Takara Tomy MP-27 Ironhide Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:59 am

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Varies from figure to figure really. Most are solid, parts move easily (but not too loose), you might find a couple can be a little heavy and if they're a little more elaborate you may get sick of holding them.
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Re: Takara Tomy MP-27 Ironhide Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Tue Sep 15, 2015 5:25 am

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Burn wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:I didn't say he's a bad figure,


Did anyone say you did? ;)


I've never picked up any masterpieces, and while I certainly wouldn't start with him, I was wondering, how do they hold up as 'action figures'? I certainly wouldn't be playing with it, but how do they hold up to being fiddled with, and transformed a lot?


Poseable, almost 100% except UM hwo can't twist his waist.


I meant quality wise, I've heard some don't stand up to handling, like starscream (2nd version, chest assembly)


Concerning MP-11, I heard that he suffers the Blitzwing shoulder syndrome. I don't own MP-11 so chalk the issue to an inherent design flaw.

Quality? MP-10 1st edition had some QC issues (the foot pseudo tail lats are misassembled (in my version) that's why I had it changed. The next version I received, well the wheels hidden in his lower shins kinda melted deformed. The other cars I own, Exhaust, Grimlock,BB and WJ, SW, all the cassettes are without issues, Starsaber had a flaw were the foot mold has an ugly scratch.
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Re: Takara Tomy MP-27 Ironhide Discussion Thread

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Re: Takara Tomy MP-27 Ironhide Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:58 am

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I think I figured out a solution that could have made this figure look better. Perhaps if they made the sled a part of his altmode like on the G1/Timelines toy instead of as a completely separate piece, that might have freed up a lot of the main figure's excess mass to not make him need to look so fat and chunky. The sled could have even taken the wheels away from the main figure.

After all, Rodimus Prime transformed with his trailer becoming his legs in the cartoon, but the MP went the toy-based route instead of trying to replicate this impossibility:

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Re: Takara Tomy MP-27 Ironhide Discussion Thread

Postby Amelie » Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:08 am

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Sabrblade wrote:I think I figured out a solution that could have made this figure look better. Perhaps if they made the sled a part of his altmode like on the G1/Timelines toy instead of as a completely separate piece, that might have freed up a lot of the main figure's excess mass to not make him need to look so fat and chunky. The sled could have even taken the wheels away from the main figure.


This. In fact - its how Ratchet transforms in the first episode.

Its not parts forming, either, in my opinion.
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G1 toy face found on Transformers MP 27 Ironhide

Postby william-james88 » Tue Sep 15, 2015 6:16 pm

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Fellow Seibertronian Cyberpath has posted some interesting pictures of a test figure of MP Ironhide. These come from the new listing on Takaratomymall (only available to Japan residents) and the unpainted figure reveals more details of the mold than ever before. The most novel of these details is the callback to the G1 toy's sticker face peering through the windshield. This should be fun for all those who enjoyed that face in the G1 toy.

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