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News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:55 pm

Uh, what's with the hollow looking fingers?

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:09 pm

SillySpringer wrote:Uh, what's with the hollow looking fingers?

The gun-like ones? Those reference a scene from an episode where he fired from fingertips.

by **Railbomb** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:17 pm

Does he have MP Bee's gun painted in silver in one of those pictures?

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:20 pm

Railbomb wrote:Does he have MP Bee's gun painted in silver in one of those pictures?

Yup!

News Credits: 11 · by **kirbenvost** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 8:26 pm

I'm glad to see Pat Lee's legacy lives on.

News Credits: 4 · by **padfoo** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 8:28 pm

Seibertron wrote:
Seibertron wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
Seibertron wrote:The head sculpt is what bothers me most. I'm not splitting hairs, it just doesn't look good. I could probably deal with the rest of his flaws if his head was spot on to the Ironhide head, which is really simple to draw, not sure what this was such a challenge for them to get right.

Can I ask what's not right about the head sculpt to you? It looks fine to me, and I think some of the promotional photography gives it a bit of a "stretched look," but "in hand" pics show it to be a little more proportional. The head and face look like Ironhide to me, and not like anyone else, so I'm not sure that's "wrong" with it to some.

ironhide-face-differences.jpg

It's Ironhide's face ... it's just not right! The jawline needs to be more squared off, his face is too thin, it slopes down toward his chin, instead of being a more rectangular face. This is another example of where they take the source material too seriously ... I don't think anyone would have complained about him having a silver face, but instead they gave him this oddly painted face similar to what they did with Bumblebee which dulls the details such as the facial lines. The eyes aren't big enough. The nose isn't wide enough. The bottom of the nose is too close to the upper lip. The nose is also too long. The lines along the side of his face should be very defined yet they can hardly be seen, same problem on Bumblebee's face.

If you guys can't see the many things wrong with Ironhide's face, not sure what to tell you guys. The smallest details can make the biggest differences. Masterpiece Prowl and Wheeljack set the bar ... Ironhide is a disappointment after them. It especially sucks with Ironhide because we keep hoping we'll get a great Ironhide/Ratchet toy at some point but continue to be disappointed with release after release.

And my opinion still stands about his face. Nose is too small or too long or something. Jaw line/sides of face should be more rectangular. All you have to do is look at his character model! Ironhide has one of the easiest Transformers faces to draw. I'm bummed they got this wrong!

So true, this Ironhide is still a buy for me but I wish they had designed his head to be more like the G! model. The chest is also off, but like I said this is still a buy.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 9:06 pm

Iyaiyaiyaiyaiya................

News Credits: 4529 · by **william-james88** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 9:37 pm

phantom1592 wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:Ahhh man, I don't have any MPs yet and I don't know which one to get first. I think this Ironhide may not be the best MP, but it looks pretty damn good. I wanna get a few of the car bots first though. I still want the Soundwave mold. ARGGGGG I am soooo behind!

MP-10 Optimus is a glorious centerpiece for the MP line... and Prowl is a personal favorite of mine.

Starscream and Soundwave are probably be the two I want the most that I don't have yet....

getting behind on these SUCKS

Well you are in luck since Starscream is still selling at retail price for the takara version AND the Hasbro version is out in a few weeks at your nearest toysrus. Just pick the one you want and you will get it without going through secondary market prices. You can always om me if you need details. Point is, no one is currently behind on starscream as he is readily available. And Soundblaster (the MP soundwave redeco) is still plenty available too. Optimus is also readily available, so is Bluestreak (any version you want), Thundercracker, Sidewipe will be rereleased really soon, and red alert was jut rereleased, even megatron is easy to get for cheaper than he was when first released. In terms of mold, everything is available, except for Grimlock. You shouldnt be paying a premium above retail for any aside from that one.

News Credits: 372 · by **Cyberpath** » Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:44 am

I think he looks good. I wish the hip-panels had double hinges or something that would clear them to his backside.

He's come a long way, that's for sure.

Release date according to Amazon Japan: Jan 31, 2016.

News Credits: 13 · by **OptimalOptimus2** » Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:17 pm

huryochagi wrote:His robot mode looks like a parody on Ironhide. He really looks like a guy in cosplay. The first picture looks as if he says 'Can I get out of this costume already?!' His head being the worst. Most mistakes of his head have been mentioned. His helmet should go straight down. They made it wrap in a sphere shape.

On the positive side, they took effort to make the bumper to have the 'T'-shape in robot mode like the cartoon. His lower body is alright to me, although his diaper should be smaller.

I'm definitely skipping this one.

He doesn't look too bad if you're viewing him at an angle. Though I want this guy, because of how funny he looks and his jetpack. :lol:

www.youtube.com/user/kids · by **digktialx** » Sat Sep 12, 2015 1:08 pm

Yeah I'm not sure on this Ironhide either. He was never a must buy for me since I didn't like the toy (for obvious reasons) and the character in the cartoon. I'd be more interested to see the Ratchet variation but even then I'm still on the fence about picking Ratchet up.

-dx

News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Sat Sep 12, 2015 1:24 pm

digktialx wrote:Yeah I'm not sure on this Ironhide either. He was never a must buy for me since I didn't like the toy (for obvious reasons) and the character in the cartoon. I'd be more interested to see the Ratchet variation but even then I'm still on the fence about picking Ratchet up.

-dx

Same here. I would rather have Ratchet, but at the same time, I don't know if I'd even get the Ratchet version.

by **Mr_Autobot411** » Sat Sep 12, 2015 1:35 pm

hes a good attempt, but he seems off, the head sculpt im not digging at all, doesnt remind me of ironhide.

this is the weirdest mp release ive come across.........

News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Sat Sep 12, 2015 2:31 pm

Mr_Autobot411 wrote:hes a good attempt, but he seems off, the head sculpt im not digging at all, doesnt remind me of ironhide.

this is the weirdest mp release ive come across.........

...you mean besides MP Megatron?

by **Mr_Autobot411** » Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:17 pm

yea kinda, but man mp megatron was the worst pile of dung ever!!!!

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:58 pm

This is one of those cases where a change in lead designer really shows, and not for the better.

News Credits: 4 · by **padfoo** » Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:24 pm

Is it me or does his hip plates look like they swivel and turn? Wishful thinking, but maybe they could cover his butt wheels!

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:02 pm

SillySpringer wrote:
Mr_Autobot411 wrote:hes a good attempt, but he seems off, the head sculpt im not digging at all, doesnt remind me of ironhide.

this is the weirdest mp release ive come across.........

...you mean besides MP Megatron?

The face was kind of based on this

News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:38 pm

fenrir72 wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
Mr_Autobot411 wrote:hes a good attempt, but he seems off, the head sculpt im not digging at all, doesnt remind me of ironhide.

this is the weirdest mp release ive come across.........

...you mean besides MP Megatron?

The face was kind of based on this

It's not the face I'm talking about, it's the whole thing. >:oP

News Credits: 4529 · by **william-james88** » Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:17 pm

I love MP Megatron. And while the proportions may be better on Appolyon (which I own), the engineering and transformation hasnt really improved dramatically since, showing how influencial this toy is.

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:48 pm

william-james88 wrote:I love MP Megatron. And while the proportions may be better on Appolyon (which I own), the engineering and transformation hasnt really improved dramatically since, showing how influencial this toy is.

Still, it really shows how much more could have been done to improve MP Megatron had the figure's designer been given more than a mere 12 days to design it.

News Credits: 4529 · by **william-james88** » Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:02 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:I love MP Megatron. And while the proportions may be better on Appolyon (which I own), the engineering and transformation hasnt really improved dramatically since, showing how influencial this toy is.
Still, it really shows how much more could have been done to improve MP Megatron had the figure's designer been given more than a mere 12 days to design it.

Totally agree!

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:10 pm

SillySpringer wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
Mr_Autobot411 wrote:hes a good attempt, but he seems off, the head sculpt im not digging at all, doesnt remind me of ironhide.

this is the weirdest mp release ive come across.........

...you mean besides MP Megatron?

The face was kind of based on this

It's not the face I'm talking about, it's the whole thing.

He was talking about the headsculpt. And, about the whole design of Megs, which part of him was innacurate to the show/movie/toy? Even 3rd party Apollyon and Hegemon borrowed heavily from the lanky original (only buffed up) >:oP

News Credits: 96 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 8:16 am

Despite all the nitpicks you guys have, I have a good feeling toward this Ironhide. Not only is the price perfectly fair, but it look like a pretty fun toy to fiddle with. Can't wait for Febuary 2016 to finally have my hands on it!

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:31 am

-Kanrabat- wrote:Despite all the nitpicks you guys have, I have a good feeling toward this Ironhide. Not only is the price perfectly fair, but it look like a pretty fun toy to fiddle with. Can't wait for Febuary 2016 to finally have my hands on it!

Zat avatar/sig of yours, is that a humanized Arcee?