Video Review - Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Class Steeljaw
Wednesday, December 17th, 2014 4:07AM CST
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It's two more figures from Wave 1 of RID! Bumble is fun with a pleasant transformation but Steeljaw just doesn't work on any level, the marbleized blue plastic is nice though. If you can only get one go with Bumblebee.
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Posted by Lockdownhunter on December 17th, 2014 @ 7:36am CST
So clear and easily understood!!!!!!
Posted by Lockdownhunter on December 17th, 2014 @ 7:36am CST
Why are you still seeing this?
Posted by Ultra Markus on December 17th, 2014 @ 9:24pm CST
Posted by Ultra Markus on December 17th, 2014 @ 9:29pm CST
Posted by Seibertron on December 17th, 2014 @ 9:47pm CST
And he most definitely has elbow joints, Chuck!
Posted by william-james88 on December 17th, 2014 @ 9:49pm CST
Seibertron wrote:My quick thoughts on Steeljaw and Strongarm. I think they're the most under rated figures from this wave. I love both of them! Steeljaw is actually really awesome if you pose him with his legs like a wolf's legs. You absolutely do NOT need to use his tail for support like so many people keep saying in video reviews. Listening to chuckdawg's review right now and it sounds like he missed how to pose Steeljaw properly as well. Bummer! Can't wait to share pics of him posed properly in my gallery later tonight or tomorrow.
And he most definitely has elbow joints, Chuck!
Cant wait for those galleries!
Posted by Seibertron on December 17th, 2014 @ 9:56pm CST
Seibertron wrote:My quick thoughts on Steeljaw and Strongarm. I think they're the most under rated figures from this wave. I love both of them! Steeljaw is actually really awesome if you pose him with his legs like a wolf's legs. You absolutely do NOT need to use his tail for support like so many people keep saying in video reviews. Listening to chuckdawg's review right now and it sounds like he missed how to pose Steeljaw properly as well. Bummer! Can't wait to share pics of him posed properly in my gallery later tonight or tomorrow.
And he most definitely has elbow joints, Chuck!
Here are 3 images of Steeljaw properly transformed and standing with legs like a wolf and his tail in an upright position.
Posted by crimsondeception on December 17th, 2014 @ 10:11pm CST
Posted by Wolfman Jake on December 17th, 2014 @ 11:36pm CST
Seibertron wrote:Seibertron wrote:My quick thoughts on Steeljaw and Strongarm. I think they're the most under rated figures from this wave. I love both of them! Steeljaw is actually really awesome if you pose him with his legs like a wolf's legs. You absolutely do NOT need to use his tail for support like so many people keep saying in video reviews. Listening to chuckdawg's review right now and it sounds like he missed how to pose Steeljaw properly as well. Bummer! Can't wait to share pics of him posed properly in my gallery later tonight or tomorrow.
And he most definitely has elbow joints, Chuck!
Here are 3 images of Steeljaw properly transformed and standing with legs like a wolf and his tail in an upright position.
Glad to see Chuckdawg and some of the other early reviewers got it wrong with Steeljaw. He's the one figure from the line-up that I'm actually looking forward to, for obvious reasons. All the naysaying was apparently unfounded!
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on December 18th, 2014 @ 2:42am CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:Seibertron wrote:Seibertron wrote:My quick thoughts on Steeljaw and Strongarm. I think they're the most under rated figures from this wave. I love both of them! Steeljaw is actually really awesome if you pose him with his legs like a wolf's legs. You absolutely do NOT need to use his tail for support like so many people keep saying in video reviews. Listening to chuckdawg's review right now and it sounds like he missed how to pose Steeljaw properly as well. Bummer! Can't wait to share pics of him posed properly in my gallery later tonight or tomorrow.
And he most definitely has elbow joints, Chuck!
Here are 3 images of Steeljaw properly transformed and standing with legs like a wolf and his tail in an upright position.
Glad to see Chuckdawg and some of the other early reviewers got it wrong with Steeljaw. He's the one figure from the line-up that I'm actually looking forward to, for obvious reasons. All the naysaying was apparently unfounded!
I responded to Ryan on my youtube page but I'll paraphrase it here; I was applying an above average amount of force on the elbow to try and get it to bend. I even went back and took the recommendation of a viewer and tried bending the arm while pulling, the thin gray plastic making up the bicep was bending in a way that caused me concern it was going to break. I was also concerned the blue forearm piece was going to stress and possibly crack the pin. I'm haunted by memories of toys breaking in my hand, I know what plastic feels like when it's going to break. Now the balance issues just might be due to mine having loose hips but I still don't like the permanent knee bend.
For the record I didn't pay the scalper prices on Amazon. They've been floating in and out of stock since a week or so ago, I got lucky.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on December 18th, 2014 @ 2:44am CST
Lockdownhunter wrote:Your audio has improved!
So clear and easily understood!!!!!!
I mentioned it on the comments for the Legion figures; I made a mistake and was recording the audio from the wrong microphone.
Posted by psj333 on December 18th, 2014 @ 10:04am CST
Posted by ScottyP on December 18th, 2014 @ 10:41am CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I was applying an above average amount of force on the elbow to try and get it to bend. I even went back and took the recommendation of a viewer and tried bending the arm while pulling, the thin gray plastic making up the bicep was bending in a way that caused me concern it was going to break.
One of the elbows on mine is the same way. The other moves fine. Grimlock's were also very tight, but once moving them a few times, they were ok. Some weird tolerances on some of the joints now that they're trying like hell to not use pins.
Posted by Seibertron on December 18th, 2014 @ 11:04am CST
ScottyP wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:I was applying an above average amount of force on the elbow to try and get it to bend. I even went back and took the recommendation of a viewer and tried bending the arm while pulling, the thin gray plastic making up the bicep was bending in a way that caused me concern it was going to break.
One of the elbows on mine is the same way. The other moves fine. Grimlock's were also very tight, but once moving them a few times, they were ok. Some weird tolerances on some of the joints now that they're trying like hell to not use pins.
The left elbow on mine is the more challenging one to move, but it will with some light pressure. It's not like first waves of figures are difficult to find at retail once they start showing up. It seems like the fandom forgets this every time a new series comes out.
Posted by ScottyP on December 18th, 2014 @ 11:06am CST
Seibertron wrote:ScottyP wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:I was applying an above average amount of force on the elbow to try and get it to bend. I even went back and took the recommendation of a viewer and tried bending the arm while pulling, the thin gray plastic making up the bicep was bending in a way that caused me concern it was going to break.
One of the elbows on mine is the same way. The other moves fine. Grimlock's were also very tight, but once moving them a few times, they were ok. Some weird tolerances on some of the joints now that they're trying like hell to not use pins.
The left elbow on mine is the more challenging one to move, but it will with some light pressure.
That's the trouble spot for me too, but like on Chuck's, it really feels like it's gonna just snap if I try to move it. Will probably take it apart over the weekend and do some extremely minor sanding.
Posted by Seibertron on December 18th, 2014 @ 11:16am CST
ScottyP wrote:That's the trouble spot for me too, but like on Chuck's, it really feels like it's gonna just snap if I try to move it. Will probably take it apart over the weekend and do some extremely minor sanding.
I just forced it to move ... I figured if it broke, I'd just return it to the store once I can get another one.
Posted by william-james88 on December 18th, 2014 @ 11:50am CST
Seibertron wrote:ScottyP wrote:That's the trouble spot for me too, but like on Chuck's, it really feels like it's gonna just snap if I try to move it. Will probably take it apart over the weekend and do some extremely minor sanding.
I just forced it to move ... I figured if it broke, I'd just return it to the store once I can get another one.
The store would take it back? This happened to me once but I contacted Hasbro instead of returning it to the store. It's a QA issue so Hasbro complies with that, but I didnt know if the store would see it as a defective product instead of a simply someone breaking his toy.
But asides that, I am curious about the judgment given to this figure. It seems that Seibertron sees it as fine because the final toy he is holding and playing with works well, regardless of how it first appeared (needing the extra force for instance). However, Chuck encompasses the need for the extra force in his review. The fact that one might rely on being able to return a product in case it breaks might be seen as a negative for his judgment on the figure regardless of how great the toy is once the elbow (or any other defect) is fixed.
As for me, I am just waiting for it, still buying it on sight, these decepticons look very imaginative. And the hunched look is definitely intended for this robot mode given the subject matter.
Posted by Seibertron on December 18th, 2014 @ 12:03pm CST
william-james88 wrote:The store would take it back? This happened to me once but I contacted Hasbro instead of returning it to the store. It's a QA issue so Hasbro complies with that, but I didnt know if the store would see it as a defective product instead of a simply someone breaking his toy.
When it comes to any of the big box chains (Walmart, Target, Toys R Us, Kmart, Meijer, etc), of course they'd take it back or provide you with a replacement! Make sure when you return a broken product that you put a sticky note on the inside of the package that specifies what the problem is with the toy and make sure that the person working at the customer service desk is aware that there is a problem with the toy (and point out the note on the inside of the package) so that the toy doesn't somehow end up back on the shelves. I assume that the store should be able to get a credit for a faulty product from Hasbro or however that process works.
Posted by ScottyP on December 18th, 2014 @ 2:05pm CST
Seibertron wrote:william-james88 wrote:The store would take it back? This happened to me once but I contacted Hasbro instead of returning it to the store. It's a QA issue so Hasbro complies with that, but I didnt know if the store would see it as a defective product instead of a simply someone breaking his toy.
When it comes to any of the big box chains (Walmart, Target, Toys R Us, Kmart, Meijer, etc), of course they'd take it back or provide you with a replacement! Make sure when you return a broken product that you put a sticky note on the inside of the package that specifies what the problem is with the toy and make sure that the person working at the customer service desk is aware that there is a problem with the toy (and point out the note on the inside of the package) so that the toy doesn't somehow end up back on the shelves. I assume that the store should be able to get a credit for a faulty product from Hasbro or however that process works.
Yep. In my retail days you should have seen the stuff we took back, no questions asked. Got a receipt for the item? Is it within the stated return policy time frame? Done and done. Had a guy that would check over all the opened returns, and either mail em back to the vendor or mark them down for resale.
Posted by Seibertron on December 18th, 2014 @ 2:19pm CST
ScottyP wrote:Seibertron wrote:william-james88 wrote:The store would take it back? This happened to me once but I contacted Hasbro instead of returning it to the store. It's a QA issue so Hasbro complies with that, but I didnt know if the store would see it as a defective product instead of a simply someone breaking his toy.
When it comes to any of the big box chains (Walmart, Target, Toys R Us, Kmart, Meijer, etc), of course they'd take it back or provide you with a replacement! Make sure when you return a broken product that you put a sticky note on the inside of the package that specifies what the problem is with the toy and make sure that the person working at the customer service desk is aware that there is a problem with the toy (and point out the note on the inside of the package) so that the toy doesn't somehow end up back on the shelves. I assume that the store should be able to get a credit for a faulty product from Hasbro or however that process works.
Yep. In my retail days you should have seen the stuff we took back, no questions asked. Got a receipt for the item? Is it within the stated return policy time frame? Done and done. Had a guy that would check over all the opened returns, and either mail em back to the vendor or mark them down for resale.
So when I return a broken item with a note in it stating what's wrong with the product, would Target/Walmart/TRU get a credit on their account for that item when they return it to the vendor?
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on December 18th, 2014 @ 4:17pm CST
It's at the 2:55 mark.
Posted by Sabrblade on December 18th, 2014 @ 4:21pm CST
Or it's stylized to make him seem more vicious.Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I just noticed this because of EmGo's review, but Steeljaw's Decepticon symbol on the grill of his car mode is made to look scratched out. I guess they ARE doing the "Decepticon turns Autobot" thing with him.
Posted by Seibertron on December 18th, 2014 @ 4:25pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Or it's stylized to make him seem more vicious.Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I just noticed this because of EmGo's review, but Steeljaw's Decepticon symbol on the grill of his car mode is made to look scratched out. I guess they ARE doing the "Decepticon turns Autobot" thing with him.
That's what I assumed also.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on December 18th, 2014 @ 4:33pm CST
EDIT:
Nevermind, Seibertron has already done so.
Maybe Steeljaw has renounced the Decepticons, but isn't necessarily joining the Autobots. I could see them using the "Lone Wolf" trope with him. He just wants both sides to leave him alone to do his own thing. Maybe he would be helpful to Bumblebee's Autobots on occassion, but isn't really comfortable being a team player, a la Wheeljack earlier on in the Prime series (which is silly for an actual wolf, the "lone wolf" legend isn't really based in realistic wolf behavior at all, just superstition and misunderstanding). Maybe in time he'll learn that "Friendship is Magic" (TM) and warm up to the Autobot cause. Who knows? Should be interesting to finally see what Steeljaw is like on the show. Too bad the toys have NO biographies on the back of the packaging.
Posted by Autobot032 on December 18th, 2014 @ 6:06pm CST
Seibertron wrote:william-james88 wrote:The store would take it back? This happened to me once but I contacted Hasbro instead of returning it to the store. It's a QA issue so Hasbro complies with that, but I didnt know if the store would see it as a defective product instead of a simply someone breaking his toy.
When it comes to any of the big box chains (Walmart, Target, Toys R Us, Kmart, Meijer, etc), of course they'd take it back or provide you with a replacement! Make sure when you return a broken product that you put a sticky note on the inside of the package that specifies what the problem is with the toy and make sure that the person working at the customer service desk is aware that there is a problem with the toy (and point out the note on the inside of the package) so that the toy doesn't somehow end up back on the shelves. I assume that the store should be able to get a credit for a faulty product from Hasbro or however that process works.
William is in Canada. They have slightly different retail laws there, so his asking about returns is not surprising. Some countries don't even allow retail returns once an item's been opened. We have it good here,and we sometimes take it for granted, myself included.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on December 18th, 2014 @ 10:31pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on December 18th, 2014 @ 10:33pm CST
Posted by Zeedust on December 18th, 2014 @ 10:50pm CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:Maybe Steeljaw has renounced the Decepticons, but isn't necessarily joining the Autobots. I could see them using the "Lone Wolf" trope with him. He just wants both sides to leave him alone to do his own thing. Maybe he would be helpful to Bumblebee's Autobots on occassion, but isn't really comfortable being a team player, a la Wheeljack earlier on in the Prime series (which is silly for an actual wolf, the "lone wolf" legend isn't really based in realistic wolf behavior at all, just superstition and misunderstanding). Maybe in time he'll learn that "Friendship is Magic" (TM) and warm up to the Autobot cause. Who knows? Should be interesting to finally see what Steeljaw is like on the show. Too bad the toys have NO biographies on the back of the packaging.
Or maybe he simply sees anyone who isn't his follower as prey.
Posted by william-james88 on December 19th, 2014 @ 10:20am CST
This toy would be from the same size and complexity class as Hyperchange Bumblebee and Hyperchange Grimlock, who are both currently available for ordering online.
Posted by Peridot on December 19th, 2014 @ 10:48am CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 19th, 2014 @ 11:17am CST
Metro Prime wrote:I know they're simplified kiddy toys, but I really hope Hasbro makes the entire RID cast at Hyperchange/3-Step scale. That was the only other thing keeping me from buying the AOE Flip and Change figures, aside from them all being floppy messes.
What's wrong with the Warriors ("Deluxes")? The Three-Step figure are Voyager-sized you know?
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on December 19th, 2014 @ 11:23am CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Metro Prime wrote:I know they're simplified kiddy toys, but I really hope Hasbro makes the entire RID cast at Hyperchange/3-Step scale. That was the only other thing keeping me from buying the AOE Flip and Change figures, aside from them all being floppy messes.
What's wrong with the Warriors ("Deluxes")? The Three-Step figure are Voyager-sized you know?
Actually according to Ryan these are a little bigger at about the same height as MP Grimlock.
Posted by william-james88 on December 19th, 2014 @ 11:51am CST
LOST Cybertronian wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Metro Prime wrote:I know they're simplified kiddy toys, but I really hope Hasbro makes the entire RID cast at Hyperchange/3-Step scale. That was the only other thing keeping me from buying the AOE Flip and Change figures, aside from them all being floppy messes.
What's wrong with the Warriors ("Deluxes")? The Three-Step figure are Voyager-sized you know?
Actually, according to, Ryan these are a little bigger at about the same height as MP Grimlock.
What I didnt understand about the statement asking for the whole cast in this class was that they would all still be out of scale. Since easier transformations dont bother you, I would suggest getting Grimlock in the hyperchange scale (and maybe Optimus too) and then the appropriate characters in warrior class.
Posted by Cobotron on December 19th, 2014 @ 5:42pm CST
Posted by shajaki on December 19th, 2014 @ 6:34pm CST
Posted by welcometothedarksyde on December 19th, 2014 @ 8:01pm CST
Posted by Lockdownhunter on December 19th, 2014 @ 9:46pm CST
Just look at the spoiler on the back of the vehicle.Yes,Rodimus all right.
Posted by Lockdownhunter on December 19th, 2014 @ 9:49pm CST
william-james88 wrote:LOST Cybertronian wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Metro Prime wrote:I know they're simplified kiddy toys, but I really hope Hasbro makes the entire RID cast at Hyperchange/3-Step scale. That was the only other thing keeping me from buying the AOE Flip and Change figures, aside from them all being floppy messes.
What's wrong with the Warriors ("Deluxes")? The Three-Step figure are Voyager-sized you know?
Actually, according to, Ryan these are a little bigger at about the same height as MP Grimlock.
What I didnt understand about the statement asking for the whole cast in this class was that they would all still be out of scale. Since easier transformations dont bother you, I would suggest getting Grimlock in the hyperchange scale (and maybe Optimus too) and then the appropriate characters in warrior class.
Thanks again William-James 88!!!!!!You really are the most helpful Seibertronian other than Burn.
Posted by Sabrblade on December 19th, 2014 @ 11:08pm CST
Tank Engine.
But of course, and Thomas isn't nearly as kiddie as its show's current seasons would lead one to believe.Cobotron wrote:note: this comment does not imply disdain for these toys' "kiddyness". I'm all for kids toys being for kids.
and kids love trains.
He'll be doing some shenanigans with the Original Primes in the afterlife.welcometothedarksyde wrote:Boy for a dead guy he's sure getting alot of toys
Wait. No! Not like that!
Makes me think more of a solid red and blue Star Convoy, what with the small cab integrated into the very large trailer:Lockdownhunter wrote:I like it.Definitely getting a TFA Optimus vibe.Also,does this truck scream Rodimus Prime to you?
Just look at the spoiler on the back of the vehicle.Yes,Rodimus all right.
Posted by Peridot on December 19th, 2014 @ 11:21pm CST
william-james88 wrote:LOST Cybertronian wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Metro Prime wrote:I know they're simplified kiddy toys, but I really hope Hasbro makes the entire RID cast at Hyperchange/3-Step scale. That was the only other thing keeping me from buying the AOE Flip and Change figures, aside from them all being floppy messes.
What's wrong with the Warriors ("Deluxes")? The Three-Step figure are Voyager-sized you know?
Actually, according to, Ryan these are a little bigger at about the same height as MP Grimlock.
What I didnt understand about the statement asking for the whole cast in this class was that they would all still be out of scale. Since easier transformations dont bother you, I would suggest getting Grimlock in the hyperchange scale (and maybe Optimus too) and then the appropriate characters in warrior class.
Note that I didn't say class, I said scale. They don't all have to be at the same price point, just the same approximate scale. Fixit, for example, would be either a large-ish Legion or a very small Deluxe. And the Hyperchange Grim is way, way too big for the Warrior figures. Grimlock, based on the clips we've seen, is only about two heads taller than Bumblebee.
It would be pointless anyways, since the entire reason I like these things is because they're big, chunky, and, most importantly, fun action figures that aren't extremely fiddly. They're like modernized G1 figures. Using the Deluxes just ruins the whole point of it.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 20th, 2014 @ 2:53am CST
Metro Prime wrote:william-james88 wrote:LOST Cybertronian wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Metro Prime wrote:I know they're simplified kiddy toys, but I really hope Hasbro makes the entire RID cast at Hyperchange/3-Step scale. That was the only other thing keeping me from buying the AOE Flip and Change figures, aside from them all being floppy messes.
What's wrong with the Warriors ("Deluxes")? The Three-Step figure are Voyager-sized you know?
Actually, according to, Ryan these are a little bigger at about the same height as MP Grimlock.
What I didnt understand about the statement asking for the whole cast in this class was that they would all still be out of scale. Since easier transformations dont bother you, I would suggest getting Grimlock in the hyperchange scale (and maybe Optimus too) and then the appropriate characters in warrior class.
Note that I didn't say class, I said scale. They don't all have to be at the same price point, just the same approximate scale. Fixit, for example, would be either a large-ish Legion or a very small Deluxe. And the Hyperchange Grim is way, way too big for the Warrior figures. Grimlock, based on the clips we've seen, is only about two heads taller than Bumblebee.
It would be pointless anyways, since the entire reason I like these things is because they're big, chunky, and, most importantly, fun action figures that aren't extremely fiddly. They're like modernized G1 figures. Using the Deluxes just ruins the whole point of it.
Overquoting to say that Hyperchange Grimlock also have the most original and clever transformation I've ever seen on a Grimlock toy so far. And that include the MP.
Posted by munkimus prime on December 20th, 2014 @ 6:26am CST
Posted by ScottyP on December 20th, 2014 @ 2:49pm CST
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Actually according to Ryan these are a little bigger at about the same height as MP Grimlock.
I can't speak for Bumblebee, but that is not even close to accurate for Grimlock. MP Grimlock has a full inch and a half on the Hyperchange one in height, not to mention heft where they don't even compare. In Dino mode, MP Grimlock absolutely dwarfs the RiD Hyperchange T-Rex. In T-Rex mode it's close to a dead match size wise for AoE Voyager Grimlock, and the robot mode feels like the old Ultra Class without as much general bulk.
Posted by Zeedust on December 20th, 2014 @ 5:42pm CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:Overquoting to say that Hyperchange Grimlock also have the most original and clever transformation I've ever seen on a Grimlock toy so far. And that include the MP.
That's the only RiD toy I have thus far, and I do not regret getting him one bit, for exactly that reason. The legs are especially fresh and clever.
And the fact that he looks like Godzilla in dino mode doesn't hurt, either.
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on December 21st, 2014 @ 7:24pm CST
If you need a little more convincing to pull the trigger on these guys, check out our high quality galleries of most of these toys here.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 21st, 2014 @ 7:33pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on December 21st, 2014 @ 7:37pm CST
As expected from TRU.-Kanrabat- wrote:8$US for LEGION class figures?! Ouch...
Posted by SlyTF1 on December 21st, 2014 @ 8:53pm CST
Posted by Ultra Markus on December 21st, 2014 @ 9:23pm CST
but mostley out on everything else!