Transformers Titans Return Soundwave on HasbroToyShop.com

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I got an update on Six Shot off of Facebook. According to a retailer Hasbro is holding the figure back, nobody knows why. Maybe it has something to do with people having a hard time finding Soundwave?

Thats nonsense since he's plenty available north of your border.

Dmax, if you want my sixshot, he is yours for 50$ shipped (what he cost me). I will just grab myself another one later, I have played with him enough for now.

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote: the only time I can recall that not happening was with Thrilling 30 Bumblebee.

Thrilling 30 Bee did have a cliffjumper redeco

I meant the Deluxe one; completely forgot about the Legends figure. But, yeah, damn - just goes to show how many Bees got turned into Cliffs.

The only issue I am aware of with Sixshot is that his Titanmaster is a tight fit in his helmet and the wolfhead and it takes a bit of finagling to get it out.

Perhaps Hasbro needs to realise it need to massage it's case assortments for retailers and locations.

Like there is no way TRU UK wants any more Soundwaves at the moment.
but they might take more of the Blaster/Optimus wave as they are completely sold out of PM Optimus and mostly sold out of Blaster.

I think Sixshot on his own and indeed Sky Shadow on his own would sell just fine as they both do enough to capture customer interest.

But some retailers really might like another mix like Sixshot & Optimus or Sixshot & SkyShadoow.

Frankly Hasbro are crazy if they don't make more PM Optimus - they made the same school boy error with Combiner Wars Optimus too.

I'd suggest they re-make Wave 1 & 2 Deluxes and wave 1 leaders and re-offer them towards the end of the line or if there is a delay in the lines release internationally offer some then.

Sure someone could try and find them "somewhere" like Australia or Russia but it's like I said about regional needs - in the UK they NEED more Powermaster Optimus Prime stock.

How many sales did they loose out on by him being completely out of stock before Xmas and there being barely a sniff of any Voyagers until late December 2016 and Voyagers wave 1 & 2 are still really hard to locate in the UK short of some specialist retailers.

That retailers don't have them is mystifying - they have plenty of those RID Sdeswipe, Bumblebee & Optimus with the minicons on them though - you can't help but trip over them at online retail.

It would make sense to put PM OP in a revision wave at some point. Then again, maybe they don't want to confuse kids by having two different Optimus toys in different size classes out at once? I dunno. Hasbro works in mysterious ways.

Just read Spotlight: Metroplex thanks to the current Comixology sale and it reminded me just how much I love IDW Sixshot. Goddammit I need this guy now.

Va'al wrote:We are aware of some concern among the collecting fandom about the scarcity of Titans Return wave 2 Leader Class Soundwave, with Titan Master Sounblaster - but thanks to fellow Seibertronian Impulse, we have news of him being in stock at HasbroToyShop, as well as the previous report on him being on Amazon.com! Happy weekend remote hunting.

I just gotta say how awesome that banner is Va'al! That's how I camera-roll with my TFs!

Erm....i don't think Soundwave is scarce in the UK! but that may not be the case in other countries & regions

Before I get into replies, I am just curious about something, how does it help anyone here that Soundwave is now on HTS? I ask because people have been lamenting that he isnt found in stores and are waiting to see him in a store to buy him. They knew Amazon had him on sale (albeit a minor one) and chose to wait to see him in stores. And now we have news that he is available at another place online for more than amazon, so... how does that change anything? Is there anyone reading this that was waiting for him to show up on HTS to now buy him there right now? This just really confuses me. I personally just buy for the cheapest and soonest possible and that usually means in stores. But if I can get it online before finding it in stores and find it cheaper there too, then I will get it there. I just dont get why HTS is anything important, especially compared to Amazon. They are late and more expensive, so how does that benefit anyone?

RAR wrote:The only issue I am aware of with Sixshot is that his Titanmaster is a tight fit in his helmet and the wolfhead and it takes a bit of finagling to get it out.

I havent found those to be issues with mine. The main issue for me is how fiddly the attachment points are in spaceship mode for the legs when you want to center them. And the landing gear is super tight and adds to how fiddly that part is.

Perhaps Hasbro needs to realise it need to massage it's case assortments for retailers and locations.

So to make sure the case assortments aren't stressed out?

Kurona wrote:It would make sense to put PM OP in a revision wave at some point. Then again, maybe they don't want to confuse kids by having two different Optimus toys in different size classes out at once? I dunno. Hasbro works in mysterious ways.

Frankly Hasbro are crazy if they don't make more PM Optimus - they made the same school boy error with Combiner Wars Optimus too.

PMOP IS in a revision wave already.

http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodi ... IzXxPkrK00



So this is not like combiner wars right off the bat. At this point the only leader not reissued is Blaster.

Canada got both those waves, the initial wave 2 with 2 soundwaves and the revision wave 2 with both Soundwave and Prime. I dont know if that revision wave will hit the UK, it should come before Sixshot.

Hasbro themselves do not have any more Optimus Leaders, they told me themselves:

Hi William,

Regrettably, the Leader Powermaster Optimus Prime is no longer available

Kurona wrote:Just read Spotlight: Metroplex thanks to the current Comixology sale and it reminded me just how much I love IDW Sixshot. Goddammit I need this guy now.

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Is that the one that was released as part of All Hail Megatron ?

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:Just read Spotlight: Metroplex thanks to the current Comixology sale and it reminded me just how much I love IDW Sixshot. Goddammit I need this guy now.

Is that the one that was released as part of All Hail Megatron ?

It was one of them, yeah - AHM also had a handful of spotlights that ran alongside it to give some expansion on characters that were involved or story elements. Metroplex, Cliffjumper, Jazz, Blurr and Drift - I think that was all of them. To be honest I think all of them are better than AHM itself, not that that's very difficult.
Despite it's name, Spotlight: Metroplex focused more on Sixshot and the Throttlebots. It didn't exactly give much more to Sixshot's character but seeing him in action again just rang a bell in my head; how he's my favourite pre-DOOP IDW character.

We are seeing PMOP and Blaster in Target, Walmart and TRU here in Oregon -- still haven't given in to temptation with PMOP, as I'd rather have Ginrai.

There was still a PM Prime in Forbidden Planet in Cambridge when I was there a couple weeks ago. Passed on it cos I much prefer Takara's version even if it is expensive. Friend bought the Hasbro version for half price in TK Maxx around christmas time and got Blaster for same price too.

Stuartmaximus wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Why? why is my most anticipated figure of the wave the one they hold back?

Argh. **** **** ******* **** ** ******

Aw don't worry...it'll come out eventually pal

Oh....and happy birthday

It shall, but I hate waiting.

I wonder: is the line just this popular, or are they making fewer figures? I meant it's one thing to have to really hunt for a tail-end of the line figure, but wave 3?

And Thanks

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I wonder: is the line just this popular, or are they making fewer figures? I meant it's one thing to have to really hunt for a tail-end of the line figure, but wave 3?

And Thanks

Scotty predicted that a while back, saying that the stores would have so much of wave 1 and 2 they might not order as much for wave 3. But in this case, it seems stores dont have any regardless.

But these are first quarter toys so technically, you should only panick if they dont appear in the first quarter, which we arent even in halfway yet. These toys are meant to be on shelves from January to March, so they still have 2 months to show up.

william-james88 wrote:Before I get into replies, I am just curious about something, how does it help anyone here that Soundwave is now on HTS? I ask because people have been lamenting that he isnt found in stores and are waiting to see him in a store to buy him.

Can't speak for everyone, but I have good luck with HTS in terms of getting stuff at a good price (if I'm willing to wait). They have figures at the suggested MSRP or cheaper. Combined with a discount code that usually isn't hard to come across, and it's usually a good deal even factoring in tax and assuming you get free shipping. The threshold for free shipping is pretty low too, and at least to nyc, shipping is fast. So generally speaking I like HTS.

Stuartmaximus wrote:Erm....i don't think Soundwave is scarce in the UK! but that may not be the case in other countries & regions

Nope Soundwave is plentiful in certain stores - it's Optimus you can not get.

I was hoping the new/forthcomming Titanmaster Optimus would be seen as a complement to the previous Optimus toys not a confusion.

Anyway the metric ton of RID Bumblebee toys out at the same time would be plenty more confusing.
Heck they have two (or more) different One-Step bees on the shelves at the same time.

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1) I have not seen any evidence that Soundwave has shipped in the revised case format in the UK with Optimus it seems he's only shipped in single character case form.
That he's so overstocked by doing that is why I'm concerned for Sixshot and Sky Shadow.

As soon as I see an Amazon or eBay listing under £40.00 I'm buying them online as I have no confidence they are going to even show up - CW leaders didn't until they were clearance (Likely imports).

2) Massage as in "Massage the figures" (in a financial sense)- I guess that is a unintended pun there then if applied to Action Figures.

I've seen a single Soundwave at a few different locations over the last month or so. If you're wondering where all the PMOP went; they're at our TRU. They have 20-30 each of PMOP and Blaster. They also have all the TF pegs stuffed to the hilt with the RID wave that included Windblade. All of the Walmarts here are overflowing with that deluxe revision wave that excludes Wolf wire. The more I hunt the more puzzled and frustrated I become.

RAR wrote:I think Sixshot on his own and indeed Sky Shadow on his own would sell just fine as they both do enough to capture customer interest.

I dunno about that? coz i'm getting the impression that people in general are holding off on getting Sky Shadow in order to get that mold as Overlord or to go even further...prob hold off til the Takara Tomy version comes out & if that's the case...it'll prob be something along the lines of what happened with Generations Roadbuster....meaning that he was in plentiful supply...and just shelfwarmed...coz noone was interested in buying the figure, or they had bought it & there were far too many of them left over, so just shelfwarmed

There are plenty of Soundwaves and Optimus Primes in my toys r us's of Canada its Blaster we lack here but there was plenty in the beginning so anyone who would want one has probably bought one.

So it's just inconsistency in other areas in the world that explains the lack of Soundwave


We also have plenty of Six Shots (more then 6 of them!) in our Walmarts or at least they did a couple weeks ago I don't know about now.

Deadput wrote:We also have plenty of Six Shots (more then 6 of them!)

Just enough to include Wingwolf

Deadput wrote:We also have plenty of Six Shots (more then 6 of them!) in our Walmarts or at least they did a couple weeks ago I don't know about now.

So that's where all the Sixshots have been going

bodrock wrote:I just gotta say how awesome that banner is Va'al! That's how I camera-roll with my TFs!

Thanks! Though I'm going to have to shelve it for a while, as I'm bubbling with badly contained politics at the moment. It'll be back.

I went out hunting for anything wave 3 (wave 1 2017) on Thursday. I hit three targets and each one had 2 Soundwaves. Just wanted to show that they are showing up in the Midwest, where we more often than not are the last to get anything.



Maybe Hssbro is holding back Six Shot because retailers are back logged with leader class toys.
While out I saw PMOPs and Blasters at the Walmarts and TRU I visited. We are just now seeing saturation of Wave 1 leaders that were meant to be on shelves for Christmas, and Wave 2 is just arriving. I don't think any of this has to do with Hasbro. Once the merchandise is in the hands of the retailer (the minute it reaches our shores), it's on them to distribute it. They are the ones not handling it well.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Deadput wrote:We also have plenty of Six Shots (more then 6 of them!) in our Walmarts or at least they did a couple weeks ago I don't know about now.

So that's where all the Sixshots have been going

Weirdly enough him and a single Voyager Optimus Prime are the only wave three anything that has shown up in my area nothing else in either Toys R Us or our 2 Walmarts here actually the only deluxe in high supply these days is Mindwipe.


I bought both of them yes and I love them both but I'm disappointed by the stickers they have compared to earlier TR waves that did not include such.


Do the deluxes (Hot Rod and friends) have these stickers just want to know before hand?

Cobotron wrote:Maybe Hssbro is holding back Six Shot because retailers are back logged with leader class toys.

Considering that leader thundercracker is still sitting on shelves near me, I'd say they're definitely back-logged - for all the wrong reasons. Maybe hasbro shouldn't have sh|t out so many horrid repaints of a horrid retool of a leader class figure of such horrid value - maybe

Deadput wrote:Do the deluxes (Hot Rod and friends) have these stickers just want to know before hand?

Not the two that I got (triggerhappy and breakaway(?))

I think only voyager and up will have stickers hereafter (hopefully not at all, but this is hasbro after all)

Stuartmaximus wrote:I dunno about that? coz i'm getting the impression that people in general are holding off on getting Sky Shadow in order to get that mold as Overlord or to go even further...prob hold off til the Takara Tomy version comes out & if that's the case...it'll prob be something along the lines of what happened with Generations Roadbuster....meaning that he was in plentiful supply...and just shelfwarmed...coz noone was interested in buying the figure, or they had bought it & there were far too many of them left over, so just shelfwarmed

Roadbuster is a strange one as he's not actually a bad figure - In a UK sense though it seemed Whirl was the shelf warmer on that wave not Roadbuster. I was not personally paying a great deal of attention to the on shelves situation as I actually bought both the Takara and the Hasbro ones very cheaply online before I ever even saw a boxed one at all.

But I was actually not really thinking about "Collectors" as much as I was how the general population - say Parents looking for a Birthday Gift for example - might see them and both Six shot & Sky Shadow offer good bang for the buck especially next to Soundwave.

Though Soundwave is a good purchase if you plan to Buy Trypticon or have a lot of data pads I would say.

But some kids might not get the appeal there.

Personally I see Overlord as more of a distinct figure (with the remould) and this as more of a pre-mould of a hypothetical Thunderwing.

But as a general principle multiple character cases are better and I think they'd likely benefit from such a case option for either or both of them.

But as I alluded to earlier I think Hasbro need to open up the packing options so retailers who have nothing of something can get a character they lack and ones who have a glut can avoid them - single character cases do at least solve that problem and even if they are single character cases it's not like every store is gonna get 20 of them at once. and Leaders usually end up on sale eventually anyway.

Deadput wrote:Do the Deluxes (Hot Rod and friends) have these stickers just want to know before hand?

I'd recommend https://www.youtube.com/user/chefatron
for any quick over views of that sort of thing - if there are stickers he will always point them out.

The 3rd wave Deluxes are all Tampographed though.

The switch for the name Twinferno must have been done in a really late stage since I just realized on my bill that he is DoubleCross in the walmart database:

Huh, how about that. I wonder if those product names are actually tied to the trademarks they carry, or if any name is slapped on them without a second thought.

nycPrime wrote:(if I'm willing to wait)

Ha! Nice, we are very similar (we already knew that though). And I thank you greatly for replying because its exactly the answer I was looking for, which is that you are not jumping on him right now. Him being on HTS means that there is a possible option ot get him later, when a deal is at hand. And thats very different from buying him now simply because he is on HTS, rather than elsewhere. Thanks for the feedback.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Deadput wrote:We also have plenty of Six Shots (more then 6 of them!) in our Walmarts or at least they did a couple weeks ago I don't know about now.

So that's where all the Sixshots have been going

One will be going your way soon though

Deadput wrote:Do the deluxes (Hot Rod and friends) have these stickers just want to know before hand?

They dont

RAR wrote:I actually bought both the Takara and the Hasbro ones very cheaply online before I ever even saw a boxed one at all.

Oh man, those were the days, I miss them.

So is Legends Bumblebee old news yet, or am I allowed to gush about him still? Because holey moley, I love this little guy and I'm not even too sure why.
I was messing around with him the morning after I got him, still feeling disappointed that of all the Wave 3 Legends, he was the only one to turn up so far - when I guess I triggered this memory. Back to me as a young child (probably around 7, so let's say 2006-ish?), wanting a G1 Bumblebee toy more than anything in the world, to the point that I can still remember this one dream I had where I found him in a store and it was the best thing in my life.
Of course, this being 2006 and me being the tender age of 7 I never actually got one, but it made me realise that this Bumblebee is basically the closest update we've gotten to that original toy, well - pretty much ever - and my love for him all of a sudden increased tenfold.

Small application of silver/black Sharpie to the wheels and license plate, and he is looking pretty much as perfect as he can. I was actually a little apprehensive about painting the hubcaps (heh) since I thought the black/yellow balance was really good as-is and didn't want to mess that up, but he undeniably looks even more class with the extra details - especially in car mode.




Cobotron's and Autobot N's suggestion of flipping the arms is a great one and it makes the robot mode look even better - but having done so twice I'm probably never going to do so again for fear of damaging the balljoints (elbows are starting to feel a little looser and I think his shoulders are beginning to show stress marks from the constant ball-joint-popping).




And finally, a little bonus extra. In preparation for the Chase version of this mold hitting soon-ish, and in case anyone wanted a more "accurate" robot mode for that, I finagled a little something to hit the approximate mark:

Now if only I had a second 'Bee, and a gold Sharpie...

Does anyone own this and applied them on the figures? How's the quality?

Qwan wrote:So is Legends Bumblebee old news yet, or am I allowed to gush about him still? Because holey moley, I love this little guy and I'm not even too sure why.
I was messing around with him the morning after I got him, still feeling disappointed that of all the Wave 3 Legends, he was the only one to turn up so far - when I guess I triggered this memory. Back to me as a young child (probably around 7, so let's say 2006-ish?), wanting a G1 Bumblebee toy more than anything in the world, to the point that I can still remember this one dream I had where I found him in a store and it was the best thing in my life.
Of course, this being 2006 and me being the tender age of 7 I never actually got one, but it made me realise that this Bumblebee is basically the closest update we've gotten to that original toy, well - pretty much ever - and my love for him all of a sudden increased tenfold.

Small application of silver/black Sharpie to the wheels and license plate, and he is looking pretty much as perfect as he can. I was actually a little apprehensive about painting the hubcaps (heh) since I thought the black/yellow balance was really good as-is and didn't want to mess that up, but he undeniably looks even more class with the extra details - especially in car mode.




Cobotron's and Autobot N's suggestion of flipping the arms is a great one and it makes the robot mode look even better - but having done so twice I'm probably never going to do so again for fear of damaging the balljoints (elbows are starting to feel a little looser and I think his shoulders are beginning to show stress marks from the constant ball-joint-popping).




And finally, a little bonus extra. In preparation for the Chase version of this mold hitting soon-ish, and in case anyone wanted a more "accurate" robot mode for that, I finagled a little something to hit the approximate mark:

Now if only I had a second 'Bee, and a gold Sharpie...

It looks very similar to the TF Universe Classics Bumblebee, the only thing thats missing is the jet ski

As for Chase...nah..i'll wait for the Hubcap version

RAR wrote:Roadbuster is a strange one as he's not actually a bad figure - In a UK sense though it seemed Whirl was the shelf warmer on that wave not Roadbuster. I was not personally paying a great deal of attention to the on shelves situation as I actually bought both the Takara and the Hasbro ones very cheaply online before I ever even saw a boxed one at all.

I saw a lot of Roadbusters, Whirls, Rhinox's, Sky-Bytes all shelf-warming even when half price at like £12.99 or so. I bought Roadbuster but thought he was pretty crappy so sold him on less than a week later.

Stuartmaximus wrote:
Cobotron's and Autobot N's suggestion of flipping the arms is a great one and it makes the robot mode look even better - but having done so twice I'm probably never going to do so again for fear of damaging the balljoints (elbows are starting to feel a little looser and I think his shoulders are beginning to show stress marks from the constant ball-joint-popping).

That arm switching (and sharpied details) sure makes the figure look a lot less crappy. Forearms are still stubby. Shame there's no way of doing that and keeping it transformable without having to detach/reattach again.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:
Cobotron's and Autobot N's suggestion of flipping the arms is a great one and it makes the robot mode look even better - but having done so twice I'm probably never going to do so again for fear of damaging the balljoints (elbows are starting to feel a little looser and I think his shoulders are beginning to show stress marks from the constant ball-joint-popping).

That arm switching (and sharpied details) sure makes the figure look a lot less crappy. Forearms are still stubby. Shame there's no way of doing that and keeping it transformable without having to detach/reattach again.

Eh? i didn't write that!

although....lol...i wish i had

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

Qwan wrote:
[Way too many pictures]

That arm switching (and sharpied details) sure makes the figure look a lot less crappy. Forearms are still stubby. Shame there's no way of doing that and keeping it transformable without having to detach/reattach again.

Yeah, I thought long and hard about ways that it could theoretically be executed using extensive modding. The best I can think of (without actually trying it, because Sharpie is pretty much the extent of my modding abilities) is some kind of swivel platform below the neck - but that, in turn, would require one to create a way for that to attach to the existing part... and make it able to rotate without colliding with other parts... and unscrew and swap the panels on his forearms... and cut off the tabs outside his hands and stick them on the inside instead... and even then it would be a gamble as to whether the dimensions would work correctly...

Yep pretty sure Bumblebee's just going to have to live with gigantic biceps.

This guy on twitter has some really great photos of wave 4 figures including Krok and Quake!


https://twitter.com/tagoal

It Is Him wrote:Commence quiet sobbing about Wave 3 still barely trickling into stores

I feel this way mainly for Sixshot since I didn't playing any games with pre-ordering a few Wave 3 Legends. So i finally pre-ordered him on BBTS since my area Target's are just getting that dumpy looking Soundwave.

I wouldn't be surprised if they finally give us a Voyager class Rodimus Prime in that upcoming "Power Of the Primes" line. So there isn't too much stressing over TR HotRod, especially since I'm still okay with my RTS version anyway. The only Wave 3 Deluxe I'm interested in is TriggerHappy. The other 3 are only "Clearance Price" worthy.

Wave 3 Meg's and OP are both "Meh" but I not opposed to troop building a couple more Gnaws and Kickbacks.

Cobotron wrote:I went out hunting for anything wave 3 (wave 1 2017) on Thursday. I hit three targets and each one had 2 Soundwaves. Just wanted to show that they are showing up in the Midwest, where we more often than not are the last to get anything.



Maybe Hssbro is holding back Six Shot because retailers are back logged with leader class toys.
While out I saw PMOPs and Blasters at the Walmarts and TRU I visited. We are just now seeing saturation of Wave 1 leaders that were meant to be on shelves for Christmas, and Wave 2 is just arriving. I don't think any of this has to do with Hasbro. Once the merchandise is in the hands of the retailer (the minute it reaches our shores), it's on them to distribute it. They are the ones not handling it well.

To be fair to retail, I don't see Leader class CW Skywarp and TR Blaster and Soundwave as "Quality Must Have" figures so it's no shock that they're shelf warming and slowing up the rotation of other figures in the Leader Class line that may actually warrant that $45-$50 price tag.

Hell up until the reveal of the upcomming Phase 6'ers, I've only purchased 2 Leader class figures since its debut (SkyFire and UM). My fear is that this my put retail off from buying Leader class figures in the future due to their abysmal hit or miss track record. Jetfire was repainted 3x's and they couldn't give that Armada Megatron away. Yet there are quite a few characters that rightfully deserves the Leader Class treatment.

@ Young P - Oh sure. I agree it has just as much to do with the toys not selling well as it does the retailer's wonky distro. The product has to be really good to sell at that price point. And I too fear for the Leader Class. Retailers are the boss here. If they deem them not worth their while, they could simply stop ordering that class assortment.

And I'm not a staunch defender of Hasbro and their practices, but all to often in regards to distribution, Hasbro becomes the fandom's scapegoat. When that's just not how the business model works. Their are many more links in the chain and some hold more power than others.

Much as I love the leader seekers - extremely unpopular opinion; but to date they're actually my favouite Seeker design and toy and I'd love them at Voyager - I think they did in some part contribute to the problem we have now. People tend to buy all three seekers... but all at that price point? When it's the exact same molding as each other (aside from Starscream's crown)? When they're out of scale with almost everything? It's very hard to justify. And that leads to them getting overstocked and going on sale and... yeah. I adore them but their creation probably wasn't a good idea.

The thing that blows my mind is, those Seekers sat and blocked the shelves through the entire holiday season, and Target and TRU never once put them on sale. While Walmart currently has all Leader class marked down to $37.something.

If an item isn't moving, and their warehouse is filling up with the next wave of that thing, why would they not mark it down to move it.

BUMBLEBEE : If all his limbs just pop one and so does his cabin (I expect there is some pins in there though) might it be possible to make a new torso ? with a rotating shoulder section - as adding that extra step and some slight adjustments to the forearms would make him transform as desired.

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The SEEKERS were a bit lumped together so having them in that size was likely a mistake if they'd made a brand new Voyager at some point that it wasn't going to be compromised by a gimic they'd be a total cash cow - but we may have to wait another couple of years for that to be possible.

I would have liked the Leader seekers more if they'd kept the back hinge they stripped from Jetfire as without it they look a bit silly to me.

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I hope the same problem doesn't result from over use of the Sky Shadow mould as i'd really like more of them - but lumping them all together is a really bad idea too.

I'd rather they spread them out and gave us a Thunderwing or Diatlus much later on in another line from that template.

I'd like some fresh moulds for Prime Wars 3.0

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I don't mind to much having a Ultra Magnus re-jig in the future waves - I'm actually kinda interested in the idea - even more so if it's Delta Magnus colours or makes some creative use of parts such as God Bomber compatibility while still using the car carrier form instead of the box trailer - if they made that kind of effort to make him a hybrid of original Optimus and Super Ginrai then i'd like that a lot.

If he's just Ultra Magnus with a Titanmaster in any colour or a straight Optimus repaint i'd like just shrug my shoulders a bit.
I'd be marginally interested in a straight western version of Super Ginrai even if they stuck a Magnus head on it as there is no reason Magnus can't have a box trailer just the once for a change.

We'll see I guess.

YoungPrime wrote:

Cobotron wrote:I went out hunting for anything wave 3 (wave 1 2017) on Thursday. I hit three targets and each one had 2 Soundwaves. Just wanted to show that they are showing up in the Midwest, where we more often than not are the last to get anything.



Maybe Hssbro is holding back Six Shot because retailers are back logged with leader class toys.
While out I saw PMOPs and Blasters at the Walmarts and TRU I visited. We are just now seeing saturation of Wave 1 leaders that were meant to be on shelves for Christmas, and Wave 2 is just arriving. I don't think any of this has to do with Hasbro. Once the merchandise is in the hands of the retailer (the minute it reaches our shores), it's on them to distribute it. They are the ones not handling it well.

To be fair to retail, I don't see Leader class CW Skywarp and TR Blaster and Soundwave as "Quality Must Have" figures so it's no shock that they're shelf warming and slowing up the rotation of other figures in the Leader Class line that may actually warrant that $45-$50 price tag.

Hell up until the reveal of the upcomming Phase 6'ers, I've only purchased 2 Leader class figures since its debut (SkyFire and UM). My fear is that this my put retail off from buying Leader class figures in the future due to their abysmal hit or miss track record. Jetfire was repainted 3x's and they couldn't give that Armada Megatron away. Yet there are quite a few characters that rightfully deserves the Leader Class treatment.

Oi oi oi oi oi...i bought that CW Armada Megs! coz i have Tidal Wave...and you can connect him to it(sort of) & that Generations Jetfire is really nice

which brings me to the point....i dunno why they never made TR Megablitzwingtron...Leader Class same with Broadside!

I understand Broadside given he's portrayed as extraordinarily large in a majority of his fictional appearances, but why would they make Blitzwing leader class? He's almost consistently shown to be around the same size of Megatron, Soundwave, Astrotrain, the Seekers etc. I can't recall a single time he was Jetfire or Magnus sized; it's not even like his original toy was particularly big.

I'd say Leader Class is too small for Broadside. I say we need it to take it a step further and make him Titan Class.

Now that a I think about it, his ship mode would make a pretty cool playset...

While Titan Broadside will never happen...it would be pretty awesome. Who knows, at that size they might be able to fit complex enough engineering to give him a good jet mode for once.

Sigma Magnus wrote:While Titan Broadside will never happen...it would be pretty awesome. Who knows, at that size they might be able to fit complex enough engineering to give him a good jet mode for once.

Are you trying to tell me that the flying brick from 1986 is anything less than perfect?

Qwan wrote:So is Legends Bumblebee old news yet, or am I allowed to gush about him still?

This is the place to gush about all Titans Return toys so gush away, loved reading your post!

Cobotron wrote:The thing that blows my mind is, those Seekers sat and blocked the shelves through the entire holiday season, and Target and TRU never once put them on sale. While Walmart currently has all Leader class marked down to $37.something.

If an item isn't moving, and their warehouse is filling up with the next wave of that thing, why would they not mark it down to move it.

I dont know. Didnt HTS have them on deep discounts though? I know amazon did.

Deadput wrote:This guy on twitter has some really great photos of wave 4 figures including Krok and Quake!


https://twitter.com/tagoal

Would you mind sending us a link to the actual post, because all I see is stuff like this:

Kurona wrote:I understand Broadside given he's portrayed as extraordinarily large in a majority of his fictional appearances, but why would they make Blitzwing leader class? He's almost consistently shown to be around the same size of Megatron, Soundwave, Astrotrain, the Seekers etc. I can't recall a single time he was Jetfire or Magnus sized; it's not even like his original toy was particularly big.

Oh god...you really can't argue scale size when it comes to toys! coz it's all over the place & a logistical nightmare, going by your defenition....Fort Max & Metroplex toy would have to be human sized(a REAL human that is) in terms of scale! & the Unicron toy we got would have to be the size of a house or even bigger. nah! toy scale sizes are sods law pal