Special Edition Beast Wars Convoy and Megatron to be released next month in Japan

oh my god

that is awesom with a captial

which version of the mold? - bought the beast wars reborn versions last year and love them but as weak willed as i am all it would take for me to buy em again is if megatron had a molded hand and a rubber duck

They seriously need a company slogan (or a new one)
"Takara: Over-whoring Molds Since The Beginning Of Time"

MegaDave wrote:which version of the mold? - bought the beast wars reborn versions last year and love them but as weak willed as i am all it would take for me to buy em again is if megatron had a molded hand and a rubber duck

The pictures that I saw in the magazine were the large versions that have the flip on mask. They were repainted of course. They look like these.

Yawn. This is like the third time they'll be rereleased in a year.

These are orderable through Hobby Link Japan.

TM-SP DX Convoy:
http://www.hlj.com/product/TKT78669?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post

TM-SP DX Megatron:
http://www.hlj.com/product/TKT78670?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post



Here are images of them through Big Bad Toystore:
TM-SP DX Convoy:
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... icture=out

TM-SP DX Megatron:
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... icture=out

These are reapints of the originals, and in my Opinion, pale in comparrison to the Reborn versions, yet if you want a completely Nostalgic run and a Gimmick riddled toy, these are it!!! I will buy them, if nothing else then to complete my collection..

Hmm.. hard to tell, but what version of primal is that a picture of in the news item?

skywarp-2 wrote:These are orderable through Hobby Link Japan.

TM-SP DX Convoy:
http://www.hlj.com/product/TKT78669?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post

TM-SP DX Megatron:
http://www.hlj.com/product/TKT78670?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post



Here are images of them through Big Bad Toystore:
TM-SP DX Convoy:
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... icture=out

TM-SP DX Megatron:
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... icture=out

These are reapints of the originals, and in my Opinion, pale in comparrison to the Reborn versions, yet if you want a completelyt Nostalgic trun and a Gimmick riddled toy, these are it!!! I will buy them, if nothing else then to complete my collection..

Nice find. You've been credited.

No matter how many times you see the figures slightly repainted, they still look good. Guess that speaks volumes about the original molds...

How many freakin' Beast Wars Optimus Primals and Megatrons do we really need? The Robot Masters versions, the Reborn versions, the TRU versions, the Takara BW 10th anniversary verisons (same as the Robot Masters versions), now these... Seriously, Takara...

If you don't have these I recomend them.

But with the 10th annaversary and all, I can't believe I'm saying it, but I've had my fill with these two right now. RpbotMasters, Japan BW 10th, US BW 10th, new versions, classic versions, retooled versions...
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Put them to bed for a while.

It's like this episode of South Park I'm watching, it's been on a million times in the last week, it's good, but don't they have a different episode!?!

What toy is that?

edit: nvm.. its the bust. I like that head.

Hmmmm..

Their colors seem show accurate. I wonder what their sizes are in relation to other BW figures.

Thanks for the credit to the news story... I know that some of you hate the fact that there have been numerous versions of these 2 Characters released...

I for one was disappointed to learn they were adding the Reissues of the original toy, albeit repainted, but still the original versions added to the TM reissues line up. I was kinda hoping for the Reborn versions in the boxes like the other TM series of Toys released, that way, the 2-Pack I have from Hasbro would be a stand alone, which I could open and leave the Reborn TM's in their Packaging.. alas that wasn't what happened, and so the Gimmick versions are what we can expect next month..

Here is a comparison between the 2 molds, and I believe the Reborn would have been better.. yet from a completist point of view.. I never owned the original figures, and it'll be nice to have the repainted and reissued originals for my collection.. gimmicks and all.. But to those who complain about these, look back at Optimus Prime, Starscream, and Soundwave G-1 reissues.. and such over the past 20 years, they have been reissued Way more then these 2 Beast Wars Characters.. so chill....

Anyways...

Here is why the Reborn Megatron is soo Much better..

1. Cartoon Accuracy head sculpt, with a slight smile for that YESSSSSS!! factor... Excellent.. much better then the silly grimmace grin that the orginal has, similar to that of the Galvatron from BW-2...


2. the Original had the first molded Dinosaur body, and the base for what was later retooled and remolded in the Reborn version. This version did have the battle-mask, which was a nice feature..and may have spurred the whole Battle Mask idea that still is felt today, especially with certain characters from the movie..(looking at you Optimus Prime and Bumblebee) even if his face is a little grimmacy, it has a sort of comic book type charm..



3. The Reborn variation, which I had hoped would have officially made it into the TM reissues line up, but instead these reissues of the originals get to be added..
Anyways, this version sported a remolded body shell for the dinosaur, with better muscle accuracy and a resculpted Dino head that's even more fierce and TV show accurate then previously released.. the Head doesn't sport the additional Face Mask, but is highly detailed and show accurate, with a Predacon symbol on the crest of the crown vent... an accurate Paint job does the final trick and Voala!!! you have a very cool accurate and all around best of the best for Beast Wars Megatron..I was very impressed when I compared it to the TV show images...



I would like to say that I highly recommend the Reborn versions.. but these reissues will be added to my collection simply for their nostalgia roots and because they are part of the TM line, and a new Sub line called TM-SP.. which I can only hope will includse the bigger molds like Reborn Optimus Primal and Megatron, Lio Convoy, Big Convoy, Galvatron, Magmatron, ect.. ect..

Honestly though the TM-02 Megatron is about the most accurate version to date I have ever seen, even more so then the large Reborn version...He's got accurate sculpted markings in his upper thighs and he's got a detachable shield that reveals his arm!!! Plus he's more in scale to the other deluxes that were released..





I have hopes that:

TM-SP -03 will be Lio Convoy
TM-SP-04 Will be Galvatron
TM-SP-05 Will Be the Big Convoy
TM-SP-06 Will be the Rebron Optimus Primal
TM-SP-07 Will be the Reborn Megatron
TM-SP-08 Will be the Magmatron
TM-SP-09 Will be the Transmetals Optimus Primal
TM-SP-10 Will be the Transmetals Megatron
TM-SP-11 Will be the Optimal Optimus
TM-SP-12 Will be the TM2 Megatron

That is my wish list...

so is this repaint/ rerelease the same mold as the original optimus primal and megatron....or is it a totally new sculpt??

I wish they wouls rerelease the optimus primal original beast wars firgure in the color of the rare blue primal lucky draw figure and stop releasing the same figure just slightly repainted to better match the cartoon. We got enough of them. Between the robot masters and the original molds painted to match the cartoon, thats good enough with me. They can release lucky draw beast wars primal to fans that want it but cant afford to shell out a $1000 for a figure.

Just an opinion of mine___:)

I'm usually a big supporter of TakaraTomy and their Beast Wars reissues/repaints/remoulds but these...well why? They've done the BW Reborn set without masks in show accuate colours, they did the RM versions in flat toy accurate colours, they then did them in colours close to the ones they used for the reborn set and now they're doing the original moulds with masks in colours similar the the second RM versions! Why, what is the point?

Yours AK

I could pick up the TRU exclusive 2 pack for cheaper then what they want for each

Alex Kingdom wrote:I'm usually a big supporter of TakaraTomy and their Beast Wars reissues/repaints/remoulds but these...well why? They've done the BW Reborn set without masks in show accuate colours, they did the RM versions in flat toy accurate colours, they then did them in colours close to the ones they used for the reborn set and now they're doing the original moulds with masks in colours similar the the second RM versions! Why, what is the point?

Yours AK

Well you have to look at the context of where they are reissueing them and in what line up.. the reason the RM versions are in the TM reissues line up is because they aere great molds and would fit the size and scaling of the other figures. That and the fact that the molds released for the Robot Masters line up were very cartoon accurate to the Original Beast Wars series, plus I'm sure they had lots of Back Stock, so to get rid of them it made sense to finally give us a Cartoon accurate in-sclae version to add to the TM collection... Now you didn't have to track the RM versions down to get the same figure, but feel cheated because of the RM colors, they simply made the accurate colored versions available in one line up, which I'm very grateful for..

The Inclusion of thew originals in Cartoon accurate colors is a disappointment to me, I too believe the Reborn versions were the best and should have seen another release for those who missed out on the boxed set.... But I guess the Originals are for those who cried out over the Reborn versions wanting ther Gimmicks they missed and loved in the original Molds....

you gotta look at this from the perspective of a Beast Wars fan... It's like with G-1 if Takara had released a Reborn Convoy and Megatron with show accuracy, and then a couple of years later released the original G-1 toys with a cartoon accurate paint job.. same difference just it's Beast Wars instead of G-1..

I am happy that we get Beast Wars Reissues, and Happy that Takara Tomy decided that just because the 10th anniversary passed, they will still release them under that banner..as some had suggested they were probably finished with those reiissues.. I'm glad they weren't..

The Beast Wars reissues are cheaper and soooo much easier to obtain then dealing with G-1 dealers and the Over priced and over hyped encores, Predaking Box sets, and Seacon Boxed sets.. those freaking dealers and Online stores are Jerks!! It's nice to be in a collecting market that is more relaxing then taxing...

Wheeljack35 wrote:I could pick up the TRU exclusive 2 pack for cheaper then what they want for each

That is just BBTS they are always more expensive... and if they tell ya its mark up for shipping, its BS, cause I have ordered from HLJ on plenty of o0ccasions and always come in 20.00USD cheaper then what my price was at BBTS..

I would suggest that the Reborn 2-Pack be bought as soon as possible.. it's the best 2-Pack of these characters out there for so little money...

skywarp-2 wrote:you gotta look at this from the perspective of a Beast Wars fan... It's like with G-1 if Takara had released a Reborn Convoy and Megatron with show accuracy, and then a couple of years later released the original G-1 toys with a cartoon accurate paint job.. same difference just it's Beast Wars instead of G-1..

Errmmm...I know! I really wish you were less condescending in pointing out the obvious. I am a Beast Wars fan so Im not quite sure where you are going with your G1 comparison however if Takara did the same with G1 Convoy and Megatron I'd be saying the same thing, what's the point?

skywarp-2 wrote:I am happy that we get Beast Wars Reissues, and Happy that Takara Tomy decided that just because the 10th anniversary passed, they will still release them under that banner..as some had suggested they were probably finished with those reiissues.. I'm glad they weren't..

Me too I just question why they have repainted the original moulds rather than just reissue the BWR figures or the original figure with original Deco. It just seems a little pointless to me.

Yours AK

Alex Kingdom wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:you gotta look at this from the perspective of a Beast Wars fan... It's like with G-1 if Takara had released a Reborn Convoy and Megatron with show accuracy, and then a couple of years later released the original G-1 toys with a cartoon accurate paint job.. same difference just it's Beast Wars instead of G-1..

Errmmm...I know! I really wish you were less condescending in pointing out the obvious. I am a Beast Wars fan so Im not quite sure where you are going with your G1 comparison however if Takara did the same with G1 Convoy and Megatron I'd be saying the same thing, what's the point?

I'm Sorry AK, if you took my statement as condescending, It really wasn't directed at you or anyone in that way.. I was trying to illustrate that the Reissues, though very disappointing, was valid and not an excessive release of the Molds.. the prior releases have been under different Banners, so in this case it's under one banner.. now if they do an "Encore" of Beast Wars, then I'll have to say Enough!!!

But to your point Takara did do the same with G-1 Optimus and Megatron...it's under the Banner Masterpiece..which is a better quality then the reissues from the encore line up.. Again I'm sorry if I came accross condescending, that was certainly not my goal.. and I didn't meant to insinuate that you weren't a Beast Wars fan, that was mainly for those G-1 supporters who constantly complain about them releasing these guys, when they should look at how many times G-1 reissues of Optimus Prime and others have come out...

Alex Kingdom wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:I am happy that we get Beast Wars Reissues, and Happy that Takara Tomy decided that just because the 10th anniversary passed, they will still release them under that banner..as some had suggested they were probably finished with those reiissues.. I'm glad they weren't..

Me too I just question why they have repainted the original moulds rather than just reissue the BWR figures or the original figure with original Deco. It just seems a little pointless to me.

Yours AK

Exactly my feeling!! I* can see it if the Origfinal toy was desired by those who first had it.. i have friends who tell me they prefer the Original Gimmicks and all.. but I'm just not interested from a wants stand point, just a completist stand point is the only reason I'd buy em'... I wa very disappointed to not see the Reborns come back or the Transmetals get theirs.. but Like I said earlier, maybe this is the start of an offshoot line up of the TM-SP and maybe just maybe we'll finally get those larger class toys in a line up from Takara Tomy with the Reborns as well.. I just really hope the TM2 Optimal Optimus and Megatron get released in the TM-SP line.. those are really what I want..

If they do TM-01 OPtimus Primal lets hope they resculpt his face...

I'm perfectly happy with last years TRU 2-pack, I see no need to purchase this all over again. Man, Takara sure has a hard-on for these sculptures...

Since I missed them all the other times, and my Interest for Beast Wars figures has been recently ignited. I'll probably get them, if they are at a decent price.

I particularly want Primal.

Although i wold kinda like a TM Megs re-issue. Just love those hover engines on the T-Rex.

If they re going to start re-releasing things. I'd like a Primal Prime re-release.

skywarp-2 wrote:Blah blah blah blah blah

What I said in my original posts still stands so why quote and dissect it if in essence you agree with it?

Yours AK

skywarp-2 wrote:The Beast Wars reissues are cheaper and soooo much easier to obtain then dealing with G-1 dealers and the Over priced and over hyped encores, Predaking Box sets, and Seacon Boxed sets.. those freaking dealers and Online stores are Jerks!! It's nice to be in a collecting market that is more relaxing then taxing...

WHAT?

How much of this:



did you actually eat this morning?

Alex Kingdom wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:Blah blah blah blah blah

What I said in my original posts still stands so why quote and dissect it if in essence you agree with it?

Yours AK

And you have the nads to knock him for being condescending...

aww man, didnt realize this could be a *new* line of reissues. Now i'm gona have to buy big and lio convos! arggg..

Alex Kingdom wrote:Jerky comments, while trying to look "Smart" but in reality comes of condescending...
Yours AK

who said I agree with it in essence, in actuality the only part I agreed with was that the BWR figures should have been included in the TM line up..the rest of what you said was that you didn't understand where i was going with my G-1 analogy.. I'm sorry that you lack the Mental capacity to understand where I was going.. basically G-1 has a bazillion reissues, and most people who bash the Primal and Megs reissues, are probably G- fans who hypocritically bash Takara's reissue choice..

I can break it down into fourth grader terms if that's not too plain...

Counterpunch wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:The Beast Wars reissues are cheaper and soooo much easier to obtain then dealing with G-1 dealers and the Over priced and over hyped encores, Predaking Box sets, and Seacon Boxed sets.. those freaking dealers and Online stores are Jerks!! It's nice to be in a collecting market that is more relaxing then taxing...

WHAT?

How much of this:



did you actually eat this morning?

I already own reissues from Takara, the Dreamwave boxed collection ones.... these encores are just another set released in the last 5 years.. that I really don't need...so I'm thankful for the Beast Wars reissues from Takara, cause I missed out on Beast Wars years ago.. to me, the encore stuff is over hyped.. and not on my target list.. that's what I meant..


Oh and most G-1 Dealers at comics shops and display stands are jerks...that part too...

also whose next on the interview slot??

skywarp-2 wrote:

Alex Kingdom wrote:Jerky comments, while trying to look "Smart" but in reality comes of condescending...
Yours AK

who said I agree with it in essence, in actuality the only part I agreed with was that the BWR figures should have been included in the TM line up..the rest of what you said was that you didn't understand where i was going with my G-1 analogy.. I'm sorry that you lack the Mental capacity to understand where I was going.. basically G-1 has a bazillion reissues, and most people who bash the Primal and Megs reissues, are probably G- fans who hypocritically bash Takara's reissue choice..

I can break it down into fourth grader terms if that's not too plain...

Finish your cereal.

All name calling and thinly veiled insults should be directed to me.

And for the record, only Convoy has numerous and continuous reissues. He's freaking Optimus Prime. That's all the damn reason he ever needs to be reissued.

skywarp-2 wrote:also whose next on the interview slot??

You.

Seriously.

skywarp-2 wrote:I'm sorry that you lack the Mental capacity to understand where I was going.

Well that is pretty rude. I was just giving you a taste of your own condescending, this is my opinion and I'm gonna ram it down your throats, medicine.


Yours AK

Alex Kingdom wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:I'm sorry that you lack the Mental capacity to understand where I was going.

Well that is pretty rude. I was just giving you a taste of your own condescending, this is my opinion and I'm gonna ram it down your throats, medicine.


Yours AK

Ahem.....

Alex Kingdom wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:Errmmm...I know! I really wish you were less condescending in pointing out the obvious. I am a Beast Wars fan so Im not quite sure where you are going with your G1 comparison however if Takara did the same with G1 Convoy and Megatron I'd be saying the same thing, what's the point?

I'm Sorry AK, if you took my statement as condescending, It really wasn't directed at you or anyone in that way.. I was trying to illustrate that the Reissues, though very disappointing, was valid and not an excessive release of the Molds.. the prior releases have been under different Banners, so in this case it's under one banner.. now if they do an "Encore" of Beast Wars, then I'll have to say Enough!!!

Dude, I apologized already earlier, and you kept spitting out crap at me!! And my statements weren't matter of fact but opinions, which I even reiterated in my apology statement..If anyone was being unreasonable its been you... I was simply trying to have a conversation and you chose to turn it into "who's the smarter person"...or "look at skywarp-2 being an ass, lets see how far I can push him until he gets pissy"...

I was and still am trying to just have a polite conversation..and discussion..

Here is another thing I don't understand, you can have a conversation, and a person take what you say as you being a total ass, but in reality, all you were doing was voicing your opinion or in a discussion.. how the hell do they know your being condescending anyways?? It's not like you have a voice with emotional feedback behind it!!! Come on, it's all in perception of the sentence.. Now the Blatent remarks about intelligence were hateful, yes, and you couldn't mistake that tone... but as far as the rest, it's really a perception on the other person's Part, so granted I apologized for that perception, but is it really my place to do so?? Why should I apologize for someone elses misunderstanding of my statements?????


does anyone else feel like this sometimes.. like they are expected to say sorry, for someone elses misconceptions about some statement you make??

Alex Kingdom wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:2 people going round and round with thin argument that they seem to both agree on in one form or another.

More of the same.


Yours AK

Seriously guys, does it matter?

Uh, this is skirting all that...

But hey SkyWarp2, that was an awesome post, I realy like how you went the extra mile and added the visuals.

I myself am a huge BW fan, but will most likely pass on these as I have alot of multiples on these guys now.

But on the topic of the visuals, I have to say the only thing I see wrong with Reborn Megs is the bucket helmet, they scaled it down to much for my tastes.

What I'd like to see is, the origional molds helmet(less the mask, with reborns face. Proper paint aps, and that would be awesome.

I think the retool departments are ont the right track, but since they've already gone this far, I see no point in letting them get lazy now!

I wish I had better kitbash talents, cause I'd love to have that.

Anyhow, thanks, that was a fun read.

Sure these are to be released next month? I ordered A megatron that is identical to the new megs you posted Skywarp2..o.o

http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-JBW- ... 584&sr=1-6?tag=seibertron07-20&

That's the link and I hope it does help to determine if it is the same one or wha..o.o

Robinson wrote:

Alex Kingdom wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:2 people going round and round with thin argument that they seem to both agree on in one form or another.

More of the same.


Yours AK

Seriously guys, does it matter?

No it doesn't. Hey Skywarp-2 lets just just drop it shall we?

Yours AK

Kanyon wrote:Sure these are to be released next month? I ordered A megatron that is identical to the new megs you posted Skywarp2..o.o

http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-JBW- ... 584&sr=1-6?tag=seibertron07-20&

That's the link and I hope it does help to determine if it is the same one or wha..o.o

That's Beasts Wars Reborn Megatron, he was remoulded with a new head and no mutant mask. The new megs uses the original mould with the original head and mask only repainted to look more like the BWR figures.

Yours AK

Liege Evilmus wrote:Uh, this is skirting all that...

But hey SkyWarp2, that was an awesome post, I realy like how you went the extra mile and added the visuals.

I myself am a huge BW fan, but will most likely pass on these as I have alot of multiples on these guys now.

But on the topic of the visuals, I have to say the only thing I see wrong with Reborn Megs is the bucket helmet, they scaled it down to much for my tastes.

What I'd like to see is, the origional molds helmet(less the mask, with reborns face. Proper paint aps, and that would be awesome.

I think the retool departments are ont the right track, but since they've already gone this far, I see no point in letting them get lazy now!

I wish I had better kitbash talents, cause I'd love to have that.

Anyhow, thanks, that was a fun read.

I too thought that the Reborn Megatron had some issues with that Smaller helmet sculpt, but in all fairness it's not that bad..I am glad that you enjoyed my little "difference review" of what the new Megatron TM-SP will most likely be, and how it will differ from the other releases already out.

Kanyon wrote:Sure these are to be released next month? I ordered A megatron that is identical to the new megs you posted Skywarp2..o.o

http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-JBW- ... 584&sr=1-6?tag=seibertron07-20&

That's the link and I hope it does help to determine if it is the same one or wha..o.o

Actually that version you are ordering through Amazon.com is the TM-2 Version which is already released, it was the repaint of the Robot Masters Mold.. the way you can tell is the legs have the correct Show Accurate Molding, versus the Reborns..and the Reborn Megatron only comes ina 2-Pack with Optimus Primal Reborn. To date I have no knowledge of them releasing the reborn's seperate..

Here is a cartoon Image:


Here is the Reborn megatron and the TM-02 Megatron:


That one you ordered is a great buy, and to date In My Opinion, the Repainted Robot Masters Megatron TM-02, is still the best and most accurate Megatron from the entire Beast Wars toy line up, and he's only available through the TM-Reissues line.. Reborn is great, but isn't excactly accurate, doesn't have a left hand that detaches from the tail, but is a large and a fun buy as well...

My favorite is the smaller, but in scale to the rest of the deluxe Beast wars toys, and super cartoon accurate, TM-02 Megatron!!


YESSSSSsss!!!.....


Oh, I forgot to add one more thing.. I think there has been a Misconception about the TM-02 Megatron.. he's not just a straight repaint, he was also a remold.. His size scaling was slightly increased to fit into the Deluxe line up better, and his arms and some other parts were retooled to give him the most Accurate to the cartoon Body ever produced.. Here are some comparison shots Ryan did with the Robot Masters version and the TM-02 Version..



You can see the big difference between the 2 Molds.. I'm quite taken with the TM-02 Megatron and May buy another just for Play value, heck he's only 25 Bucks!!

Alex Kingdom wrote:

Robinson wrote:

Alex Kingdom wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:2 people going round and round with thin argument that they seem to both agree on in one form or another.

More of the same.


Yours AK

Seriously guys, does it matter?

No it doesn't. Hey Skywarp-2 lets just just drop it shall we?

Yours AK

I agree, and I really am not interested in arguing with you, I respect your posts and enjoy our conversations together. Besides How could I stay mad at someone who takes such wonderful pictures of my Namesake!!!

The TM02 version is not more accurate in scale:

skywarp-2 wrote:Actually that version you are ordering through Amazon.com is the TM-2 Version which is already released, it was the repaint of the Robot Masters Mold.. the way you can tell is the legs have the correct Show Accurate Molding, versus the Reborns..and the Reborn Megatron only comes ina 2-Pack with Optimus Primal Reborn. To date I have no knowledge of them releasing the reborn's seperate..

Yes you're right my mistake. I though it might be the TM version but I could quite tell, I only have the original RM and the original and the BWR version of the larger mould. I saw no point in buying the TM versions.

Something I did want to ask is do people really think the TM repaints of the RM moulds offer inscale versions of Primal and Megatron to the original BW line? I pretty sure they are way too small TBH. Prime and Megatron were always bigger that say Cheetor and Waspinator. If anything it was figures like Rhinox and Terrorsaur that are out of scale not Prime and Megatron?

skywarp-2 wrote:I agree, and I really am not interested in arguing with you, I respect your posts and enjoy our conversations together.

As i respect your post even if they are a bit long winded,

Yours AK

skywarp-2 wrote:

Liege Evilmus wrote:Uh, this is skirting all that...

But hey SkyWarp2, that was an awesome post, I realy like how you went the extra mile and added the visuals.

I myself am a huge BW fan, but will most likely pass on these as I have alot of multiples on these guys now.

But on the topic of the visuals, I have to say the only thing I see wrong with Reborn Megs is the bucket helmet, they scaled it down to much for my tastes.

What I'd like to see is, the origional molds helmet(less the mask, with reborns face. Proper paint aps, and that would be awesome.

I think the retool departments are ont the right track, but since they've already gone this far, I see no point in letting them get lazy now!

I wish I had better kitbash talents, cause I'd love to have that.

Anyhow, thanks, that was a fun read.

I too thought that the Reborn Megatron had some issues with that Smaller helmet sculpt, but in all fairness it's not that bad..I am glad that you enjoyed my little "difference review" of what the new Megatron TM-SP will most likely be, and how it will differ from the other releases already out.

Kanyon wrote:Sure these are to be released next month? I ordered A megatron that is identical to the new megs you posted Skywarp2..o.o

http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-JBW- ... 584&sr=1-6?tag=seibertron07-20&

That's the link and I hope it does help to determine if it is the same one or wha..o.o

Actually that version you are ordering through Amazon.com is the TM-2 Version which is already released, it was the repaint of the Robot Masters Mold.. the way you can tell is the legs have the correct Show Accurate Molding, versus the Reborns..and the Reborn Megatron only comes ina 2-Pack with Optimus Primal Reborn. To date I have no knowledge of them releasing the reborn's seperate..

Here is a cartoon Image:


Here is the Reborn megatron and the TM-02 Megatron:


That one you ordered is a great buy, and to date In My Opinion, the Repainted Robot Masters Megatron TM-02, is still the best and most accurate Megatron from the entire Beast Wars toy line up, and he's only available through the TM-Reissues line.. Reborn is great, but isn't excactly accurate, doesn't have a left hand that detaches from the tail, but is a large and a fun buy as well...

My favorite is the smaller, but in scale to the rest of the deluxe Beast wars toys, and super cartoon accurate, TM-02 Megatron!!


YESSSSSsss!!!.....


Oh, I forgot to add one more thing.. I think there has been a Misconception about the TM-02 Megatron.. he's not just a straight repaint, he was also a remold.. His size scaling was slightly increased to fit into the Deluxe line up better, and his arms and some other parts were retooled to give him the most Accurate to the cartoon Body ever produced.. Here are some comparison shots Ryan did with the Robot Masters version and the TM-02 Version..



You can see the big difference between the 2 Molds.. I'm quite taken with the TM-02 Megatron and May buy another just for Play value, heck he's only 25 Bucks!!

Alex Kingdom wrote:

Robinson wrote:

Alex Kingdom wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:2 people going round and round with thin argument that they seem to both agree on in one form or another.

More of the same.


Yours AK

Seriously guys, does it matter?

No it doesn't. Hey Skywarp-2 lets just just drop it shall we?

Yours AK

I agree, and I really am not interested in arguing with you, I respect your posts and enjoy our conversations together. Besides How could I stay mad at someone who takes such wonderful pictures of my Namesake!!!

Anotherthing this brings up is when the BW reissues recently hit, I passed on Megs and Primal thing they where the exact same as the RM versions, but especialy in that smaller scale, he realy does look awesome.

May have to shell out a few bucks next payday!

Again, thanks

Counterpunch wrote:The TM02 version is not more accurate in scale:

Thought so!

Yours AK

Well, blast. I don't have either BW Optimus Primal or BW Megatron and now I don't know which ones I want.

Leonardo wrote:Well, blast. I don't have either BW Optimus Primal or BW Megatron and now I don't know which ones I want.

That's easy the Beast Wars reborn set are far and away the definative versions of these characters (untill they extend the Masterpeice or classics line to Beast ways that is ). Their in show accrate colours, they have show accurate faces with no mutant masks and they have much more paint detailing than any other version. Plus they got a US release so they should be too hard to get a hold off.

Yours AK

Where can I find these beauties? Is it going to have to be an eBay job?

Counterpunch wrote:The TM02 version is not more accurate in scale:

Yeah he's quite smaller then he should be.. too bad they didn't take the TM-02 Version and make it a bit larger, It would have been nice if they had resculpted the Reborn version to have the accurate thighs, and a removable tail, with those nasty little wholes in the chest removed...

so for scale the Reborn is cool, or is it?????... for Likeness and cartoon accuracy I say thet TM-02 is the best..so far..or is it also in scale??

yeah I see that there is some scaling differences.. what's weird is that I have an image from the Cartoon of Primal being the same size as the rest of his group with Rhinox towering over them... If Prime's the roughly same size as Megatron when they fight, then Megatron isn't as huge as we thought...

This is wikipedia's take on it..
http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Scale

Alex Kingdom wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:Actually that version you are ordering through Amazon.com is the TM-2 Version which is already released, it was the repaint of the Robot Masters Mold.. the way you can tell is the legs have the correct Show Accurate Molding, versus the Reborns..and the Reborn Megatron only comes ina 2-Pack with Optimus Primal Reborn. To date I have no knowledge of them releasing the reborn's seperate..

Yes you're right my mistake. I though it might be the TM version but I could quite tell, I only have the original RM and the original and the BWR version of the larger mould. I saw no point in buying the TM versions.

Something I did want to ask is do people really think the TM repaints of the RM moulds offer inscale versions of Primal and Megatron to the original BW line? I pretty sure they are way too small TBH. Prime and Megatron were always bigger that say Cheetor and Waspinator. If anything it was figures like Rhinox and Terrorsaur that are out of scale not Prime and Megatron?

I thought that there wasn't a point in buying the TM version either, until I got him, I compared him to my Robot Masters Version and was like Holy Shi%%!! I found that the TM-02 Version was exceptionally larger and more color and cartoon accurate then ever, and over time I came to like him best, which was tough cause I mostly like the larger versions for my leaders.. But yeah they are smaller.. and Rhinox and Terrorsaur should be the correct hieght..but I guess scale has always been an issue in our transformers toys..

Now I'm not a Botcon Attendee, but there were these posters especially renedered by Mainframe Entertainment for the Botcon 2001 attendees, it shows that Megatron and Optimus Primal's scale is kinda small...which makes me feel better about the TM versions..

Maximals:


Predacons:


I wish I could get my hands on those prints!!!

Alex Kingdom wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:I agree, and I really am not interested in arguing with you, I respect your posts and enjoy our conversations together.

As i respect your post even if they are a bit long winded,

Yours AK

Yeah my posts are long winded, but hey that's me, everyone knows I'm a bellower!!

Liege Evilmus wrote:Anotherthing this brings up is when the BW reissues recently hit, I passed on Megs and Primal thing they where the exact same as the RM versions, but especialy in that smaller scale, he realy does look awesome.

May have to shell out a few bucks next payday!

Again, thanks

Your welcome!!! Yeah don't pass them up, they really are larger then the RM versions, and they are remolded in slight areas for accuracy to the cartoon.. and if you look closely at the Botcon 2001 Mainframe team posters up top, you really see how small the Optimus Primal and Megatron's were in the cartoon.. and that is according to Mainframe!! Dude, take it from me.. they are really great toys!!




Disclaimer: all this is just my opinion and not meant as the word of a god or anything, it is strictly for entertainment value, and to help accent my love of these particular toys. I'm not condescending anything to ya'll, nor am I ramming it down ya'lls throats.. If I am wrong on something I gladly will accept that and concede, So Please, enjoy my posts...I just want to hang with ya'll and enjoy our conversations...

Just to clarify, the existing TM versions of Prime and Megatron are simply repaints of the Robotmasters versions, they are not bigger, or am I wrong on that?

TBH the more we talk about these guys the more I sort I want to go all completist on these moulds

Yours AK

Leonardo wrote:Where can I find these beauties? Is it going to have to be an eBay job?

Yeah probably theres an action here for example.

Yours AK