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Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime!

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Advertising Age took the time to sit down with Hasbro concerning Hasbro's new venture with the Discovery Channel - Hub. Among the issues regarding Hasbro's projects and products such as My Little Pony, G.I.Joe and Transformers, Adage is able to get something out of Hasbro concerning the new Transformers cartoon, being Transformers: Prime. To our utmost joy, legendary Transformers voice actor Peter Cullen will be voicing Optimus Prime. Cullen has voiced Optimus Prime in Michael Bay's live action films, as well as the soon to be released Transformers video game War For Cybertron. However this marks the first time Cullen voices Optimus Prime in a cartoon since the end of Generation One. Feel free to check out a snippet of the article below, while the rest can be seen here. .

Some of the Hub's most high-profile shows will be updated versions of well-known Hasbro programs from the 1980s, including "G.I. Joe," "Transformers" and "My Little Pony." The latter is being re-imagined for young girls by "Powerpuff Girls" creator Lauren Faust, while the new "Transformers Prime" will feature the voice of Peter Cullen, the original voice of Optimus Prime from the animated series as well as the Michael Bay-directed feature films. Additionally, "Transformers" feature screenwriters Alex Kurtzman and Robert Orci will act as showrunners. "G.I. Joe Renegades" will spotlight the Joes on the lam from government forces and the agents of Cobra, a storyline that echoes the recent feature film released by Paramount last summer.


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Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075159)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 17th, 2010 @ 12:06am CDT
Well, this just opens a whole other world of questions. :-B

Still glad to hear that he's back, though. :APPLAUSE:
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075160)
Posted by Evil_the_Nub on May 17th, 2010 @ 12:18am CDT
Well that's just Prime.

Come on someone had to say it.
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075162)
Posted by Supreme Convoy on May 17th, 2010 @ 12:30am CDT
I wholeheartedly approve.
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075163)
Posted by Editor on May 17th, 2010 @ 12:34am CDT
My thoughts when reading this article in order.

1) Cullen is Prime again. :grin: that is good news.

2) "Powerpuff Girls" creator Lauren Faust Say what???? PPG was created by Craig McCracken. While Faust is married to him, and worked on the show, she was not the creater.
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075165)
Posted by Optimus_Prime007 on May 17th, 2010 @ 12:40am CDT
I am glad, im just interested in what direction the show will take.

also when does the Hub come out?
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075166)
Posted by Name_Violation on May 17th, 2010 @ 12:50am CDT
This is the only good thing thats happened all day
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075170)
Posted by Naked Magnus on May 17th, 2010 @ 1:25am CDT
I think I just peed my pants.
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075175)
Posted by Mechastrike on May 17th, 2010 @ 2:23am CDT
YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! :APPLAUSE:
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075176)
Posted by ShGarland_1383 on May 17th, 2010 @ 2:54am CDT
Evil_the_Nub wrote:Well that's just Prime.

Come on someone had to say it.

Yes, Nub. Someone had to say it. Because it is. It is just Prime.

About frakin' time, too. Cullen and Gary Chalk are the two best people to pick up the role, IMO.
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075177)
Posted by Burn on May 17th, 2010 @ 2:57am CDT
Yeah see, I just get this bad feeling now that this cartoon is going to be a huge fanwank, rehashing old stuff, and not really doing much for the fandom.

Oh well. Poop happens.
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075178)
Posted by Diem on May 17th, 2010 @ 3:01am CDT
Burn wrote:Yeah see, I just get this bad feeling now that this cartoon is going to be a huge fanwank, rehashing old stuff, and not really doing much for the fandom.

Oh well. Poop happens.
Agreed so hard.
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075180)
Posted by Doubledealer93 on May 17th, 2010 @ 3:20am CDT
in my opinion this is the first good news about the show that i have heard! awesome! :APPLAUSE:
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075185)
Posted by gigazarak on May 17th, 2010 @ 4:42am CDT
Diem wrote:
Burn wrote:Yeah see, I just get this bad feeling now that this cartoon is going to be a huge fanwank, rehashing old stuff, and not really doing much for the fandom.

Oh well. Poop happens.
Agreed so hard.

I tend to agree too. It's nice to hear that Cullen will be back, if only for nostalgia reasons, but it really could be an indication that they are just going to be treading over old material/ideas/themes, just like the toys at the moment, with repaint after repaint, there just seems to be an absence of interesting stuff in the TF universe at the moment. Is anyone else underwhelmed with it all recently? Or is it just me?

On a related note, TFA was really slavishly G1 (and threw healthy does of Beast Wars in there too), but it still managed to do some interesting stuff with it all, initially fans decried it as a crock and too toony (some still do, good for them), and I must admit, I was skeptical at first too, but it really blew me away with great story-telling, and solid characterizations. So heres hoping that Alex Kurtzman and Robert Orci can give Cullen and others some good stories to work with. Give us DCAU quality stuff guys! Like Batman:The Animated Series!, Batman Beyond, and Justice League Unlimited! Can you imagine something like that for TF? It would blow my tiny mind...
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075187)
Posted by Burn on May 17th, 2010 @ 4:54am CDT
gigazarak wrote:So heres hoping that Alex Kurtzman and Robert Orci can give Cullen and others some good stories to work with.


We're doomed.
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075188)
Posted by Oilspill on May 17th, 2010 @ 4:56am CDT
gigazarak wrote:
Diem wrote:
Burn wrote:Yeah see, I just get this bad feeling now that this cartoon is going to be a huge fanwank, rehashing old stuff, and not really doing much for the fandom.

Oh well. Poop happens.
Agreed so hard.

I tend to agree too. It's nice to hear that Cullen will be back, if only for nostalgia reasons, but it really could be an indication that they are just going to be treading over old material/ideas/themes


Seriously guys, jumping to conclusions a little aren't we? All we know is the voice director picked Peter Cullen for Prime.. which since he was Prime in the recent movies, and games, is not a surprising choice, and certainly not a solid indication that the series will be just a rehash of G1.

Personally I'm more worried that Kurtzman and Orci are involved after their efforts with ROTF. As much as Michael Bay may have added his own touches to it, it was still terrible in terms of plot and character development, and some of that has to have been their doing.

Anyway, back on topic, I'll certainly be happy to hear Cullen as Prime in cartoon form again. He is the most iconic voice of Optimus after all.
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075189)
Posted by Mindmaster on May 17th, 2010 @ 5:05am CDT
Rejoice, for the LORD is near! :lol: Can't wait to see the advertisement and toys! :BOOM:
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075190)
Posted by cannonfodder4000 on May 17th, 2010 @ 5:06am CDT
again i was kinda hoping garry would do it. . .

but this is great news too! :D
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075195)
Posted by Diem on May 17th, 2010 @ 5:24am CDT
Oilspill wrote:
gigazarak wrote:
Diem wrote:
Burn wrote:Yeah see, I just get this bad feeling now that this cartoon is going to be a huge fanwank, rehashing old stuff, and not really doing much for the fandom.

Oh well. Poop happens.
Agreed so hard.

I tend to agree too. It's nice to hear that Cullen will be back, if only for nostalgia reasons, but it really could be an indication that they are just going to be treading over old material/ideas/themes


Seriously guys, jumping to conclusions a little aren't we? All we know is the voice director picked Peter Cullen for Prime.. which since he was Prime in the recent movies, and games, is not a surprising choice, and certainly not a solid indication that the series will be just a rehash of G1.

Personally I'm more worried that Kurtzman and Orci are involved after their efforts with ROTF. As much as Michael Bay may have added his own touches to it, it was still terrible in terms of plot and character development, and some of that has to have been their doing.

Anyway, back on topic, I'll certainly be happy to hear Cullen as Prime in cartoon form again. He is the most iconic voice of Optimus after all.


Well, we already know it has Prime and Bumblebee and I'll bet any amount of money that it has Megatron and Starscream too. The Autobots will arrive on Earth and befriend the locals, Starscream will stab Megatron in the back, Prime and Megatron will battle at the end while spouting philosophy at each other...

I'm really getting sick of the same characters getting trotted out over and over.

If it does turn out to be different I'll be both very pleased and very surprised. I really hope they can do something new.
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075197)
Posted by Oilspill on May 17th, 2010 @ 5:43am CDT
Diem wrote:Well, we already know it has Prime and Bumblebee and I'll bet any amount of money that it has Megatron and Starscream too. The Autobots will arrive on Earth and befriend the locals, Starscream will stab Megatron in the back, Prime and Megatron will battle at the end while spouting philosophy at each other...

I'm really getting sick of the same characters getting trotted out over and over.

If it does turn out to be different I'll be both very pleased and very surprised. I really hope they can do something new.


Fair enough, each to his own my good man. For me, it wouldn't be Transformers without Prime or Megatron. They, and the myriad of other characters are Transformers for me. If I wanted all new transforming robots I could just go watch GaoGaiGar or some Gundam anime.

To see a show focus on some side characters, in much the same way as Wreckers does in the comics, would be really cool, but I doubt this is commercially viable.

Personally, I'd like to see the same characters, but hope that they can tell good stories with them (and new stories). My hopes are not high that this will happen, as I fear this may be a movie-verse based cartoon, but there still is hope.
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075200)
Posted by Cheetron on May 17th, 2010 @ 5:58am CDT
I am holding back any excitement until I find out if we actually get this channel on the current tv plan. I'm waiting to see it turn out like Nicktoons - Upgrade to the maximum priced package to get.

I do hope this is going to be a good show.
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075204)
Posted by SunScourge on May 17th, 2010 @ 6:51am CDT
Cheetron wrote:I am holding back any excitement until I find out if we actually get this channel on the current tv plan. I'm waiting to see it turn out like Nicktoons - Upgrade to the maximum priced package to get.

I do hope this is going to be a good show.



Yeah I hope I don't have to upgrade to get this new channel.
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075206)
Posted by SlyTF1 on May 17th, 2010 @ 7:02am CDT
Oh shizz! Cant wait for the series now! I just hope the CG isnt crap like every other CG show ever invented!
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075208)
Posted by SlyTF1 on May 17th, 2010 @ 7:07am CDT
Oilspill wrote:Personally I'm more worried that Kurtzman and Orci are involved after their efforts with ROTF. As much as Michael Bay may have added his own touches to it, it was still terrible in terms of plot and character development, and some of that has to have been their doing.


Why is everyone so obsessed with this plot and character development bullshit? I could understand if it was any other movie other than Transformers, but it just doesnt fking matter! Its robots coming to earth looking for a fuel source to get back to their planet, end of story...with some explosions in there somewhere. Besides, ROTF did have character development. Sam, Leo, Simmons, Jetfire, Wheelie, Sam's parents, and maybe even Optimus all changed through the movie.
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075209)
Posted by MYoung23 on May 17th, 2010 @ 7:09am CDT
Burn wrote:Yeah see, I just get this bad feeling now that this cartoon is going to be a huge fanwank, rehashing old stuff, and not really doing much for the fandom.

Oh well. Poop happens.


So it will stink like Animated?
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075212)
Posted by Zeds on May 17th, 2010 @ 7:18am CDT
Completely made my day, week, month, year, life. Cullen for world leader.
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075214)
Posted by Diem on May 17th, 2010 @ 7:27am CDT
MYoung23 wrote:
Burn wrote:Yeah see, I just get this bad feeling now that this cartoon is going to be a huge fanwank, rehashing old stuff, and not really doing much for the fandom.

Oh well. Poop happens.


So it will stink like Animated?


Animated was good despite the fan-appeal, not because of it. Plus it had lots of nods to less repetitive parts of the canon such as Cancer and Mainframe.

It almost felt like Transform And Roll Out was ticking off boxes on a mandatory form. Optimus, Bumblebee, Starscream and Megatron? Check. Autobots arrive on Earth? Check. Starscream betrays Megatron? Check. Bumblebee befriends a human child? Check.

It was only after the ubiquitous fanwank that Animated started to get really interesting with original characters and less ubiquitous homages, with interesting themes and greater scope.
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075220)
Posted by Requiem Prime on May 17th, 2010 @ 7:50am CDT
And the world has gotten a little brighter
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075224)
Posted by Urzu Six on May 17th, 2010 @ 8:14am CDT
SlyTF1 wrote:Why is everyone so obsessed with this plot and character development bullshit? I could understand if it was any other movie other than Transformers, but it just doesnt fking matter! Its robots coming to earth looking for a fuel source to get back to their planet, end of story...with some explosions in there somewhere. Besides, ROTF did have character development. Sam, Leo, Simmons, Jetfire, Wheelie, Sam's parents, and maybe even Optimus all changed through the movie.


You confuse me. How can you say plot doesn't matter?

As for listing ROTF characters who "developed":

HA HA HA.
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075236)
Posted by GEEWUN on May 17th, 2010 @ 8:54am CDT
Urzu Six wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:Why is everyone so obsessed with this plot and character development bullshit? I could understand if it was any other movie other than Transformers, but it just doesnt fking matter! Its robots coming to earth looking for a fuel source to get back to their planet, end of story...with some explosions in there somewhere. Besides, ROTF did have character development. Sam, Leo, Simmons, Jetfire, Wheelie, Sam's parents, and maybe even Optimus all changed through the movie.


You confuse me. How can you say plot doesn't matter?

As for listing ROTF characters who "developed":

HA HA HA.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



Anyhow RotF desperately needed a plot, like really badly. Napoleon Dynamite had more of a plot than RotF
:KREMZEEK: 8-} :KREMZEEK:
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075239)
Posted by Varia31 on May 17th, 2010 @ 8:58am CDT
Ah, Peter Cullen. He IS Optimus Prime, no one else. This is great news. :D
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075241)
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on May 17th, 2010 @ 9:03am CDT
SlyTF1 wrote: Besides, ROTF did have character development. Sam, Leo, Simmons, Jetfire, Wheelie, Sam's parents, and maybe even Optimus all changed through the movie.



It's hard to peg down weather or not you're being sarcastic or if this is your opinion. :P

I like this news, and I think they've already gone through their fanwank stage with Animated, which I didn't like except maybe for a very few bits that stood out for me (Blitzwing). Otherwise I thought the series was... eh, glad it ended when it did, however many strings it left untied.
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075255)
Posted by DMSL on May 17th, 2010 @ 9:32am CDT
AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

8)
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075275)
Posted by First-Aid on May 17th, 2010 @ 10:04am CDT
gigazarak wrote:
Diem wrote:
Burn wrote:Yeah see, I just get this bad feeling now that this cartoon is going to be a huge fanwank, rehashing old stuff, and not really doing much for the fandom.

Oh well. Poop happens.
Agreed so hard.

I tend to agree too. It's nice to hear that Cullen will be back, if only for nostalgia reasons, but it really could be an indication that they are just going to be treading over old material/ideas/themes, just like the toys at the moment, with repaint after repaint,


But, if you look at the reviews and reactions to the toys from fans, that is EXACTLY what everyone wants! G1 returns! It's the shiznit! Everything gets compared unfavorably to G1 on this and other fan sites. Change is evil!

Nice to see Cullen is back, though. What could be really cool is if Gary Chalk played Ironhide...I think he's got a great Ironhide voice. My feeling though is that Transformers Prime is going to follow the movieverse- OR it's going to attempt to bridge G1 and the movie. Remember the Hub is for KIDS, not collectors, and the movieverse is what is popular with kids.
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075278)
Posted by Solrac333 on May 17th, 2010 @ 10:07am CDT
YYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AWESOME!!!!!! :KREMZEEK: :KREMZEEK: :KREMZEEK: :KREMZEEK: :KREMZEEK:
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075279)
Posted by SlyTF1 on May 17th, 2010 @ 10:09am CDT
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote: Besides, ROTF did have character development. Sam, Leo, Simmons, Jetfire, Wheelie, Sam's parents, and maybe even Optimus all changed through the movie.



It's hard to peg down weather or not you're being sarcastic or if this is your opinion. :P


Its not an oppinion its a fact, they did change through the movie.
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075303)
Posted by hinomars19 on May 17th, 2010 @ 11:36am CDT
HOOORAY!
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075306)
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on May 17th, 2010 @ 11:39am CDT
SlyTF1 wrote:
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote: Besides, ROTF did have character development. Sam, Leo, Simmons, Jetfire, Wheelie, Sam's parents, and maybe even Optimus all changed through the movie.



It's hard to peg down weather or not you're being sarcastic or if this is your opinion. :P


Its not an oppinion its a fact, they did change through the movie.



My mistake, wrong terminology. Also: can you really count Jetfire in that list? (I just noticed him in there, yay for my observational skills) I mean the only character development I saw in him was from crazy, bearded, and senile old man, to armor. (*Awesome* crazy, bearded, and senile, old man who wielded a giant axe sure, but still.)
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075328)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 17th, 2010 @ 12:19pm CDT
SlyTF1 wrote:Why is everyone so obsessed with this plot and character development bullshit? I could understand if it was any other movie other than Transformers, but it just doesnt fking matter! Its robots coming to earth looking for a fuel source to get back to their planet, end of story...with some explosions in there somewhere.
Maybe it's becuase we're tired of all these, paper-thin, shallow, poorly-written, underdeveloped stories that do nothing more than sell toys and make stuff look pretty.

We LIKE good plot-driven stories. We LIKE well-developed characters and concepts. We LIKE deeper messages hidden within the story's context that make us think wiser about things.

In a nut-shell, we LIKE quality!

Thus far, two series have contained all of these and more: Beast Wars and Animated. Both of which didn't treat their characters like they were just toys that they were trying to sell and advertise, but were instead treated like fully individual persons in their own right, regardless of their fictional status. Each "main" character was either completely or almost completely three-dimensional (excluding background or minor characters), whereas a good majority of the bot cast of G1 and the live action movies were one or two dimensional at best.

The stories were carefully planned out better, spanning several episodes to develop everything and keep the audience in suspence and awe. Everything didn't come out all at once, and little by little that stories unfolded, growing and evolving into amazing works of art. That's quality.
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075335)
Posted by DaiShanPrime on May 17th, 2010 @ 12:28pm CDT
FANgasm! :APPLAUSE:
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075340)
Posted by Cyberstrike on May 17th, 2010 @ 12:43pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:Why is everyone so obsessed with this plot and character development bullshit? I could understand if it was any other movie other than Transformers, but it just doesnt fking matter! Its robots coming to earth looking for a fuel source to get back to their planet, end of story...with some explosions in there somewhere.
Maybe it's becuase we're tired of all these, paper-thin, shallow, poorly-written, underdeveloped stories that do nothing more than sell toys and make stuff look pretty.

We LIKE good plot-driven stories. We LIKE well-developed characters and concepts. We LIKE deeper messages hidden within the story's context that make us think wiser about things.

In a nut-shell, we LIKE quality!

Thus far, two series have contained all of these and more: Beast Wars and Animated. Both of which didn't treat their characters like they were just toys that they were trying to sell and advertise, but were instead treated like fully individual persons in their own right, regardless of their fictional status. Each "main" character was either completely or almost completely three-dimensional (excluding background or minor characters), whereas a good majority of the bot cast of G1 and the live action movies were one or two dimensional at best.

The stories were carefully planned out better, spanning several episodes to develop everything and keep the audience in suspence and awe. Everything didn't come out all at once, and little by little that stories unfolded, growing and evolving into amazing works of art. That's quality.



Beast Wars I agree with you 100% but the only characters in Animated that got any kind of real character delvopment was Optimus Prime, Bulkhead, and Sari and maybe Prowl. Bumblebee and the rest of the show's characters were flat, dull, and 2-D characters especailly the Decepticons and human super-villains.
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075369)
Posted by SlyTF1 on May 17th, 2010 @ 1:58pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:Why is everyone so obsessed with this plot and character development bullshit? I could understand if it was any other movie other than Transformers, but it just doesnt fking matter! Its robots coming to earth looking for a fuel source to get back to their planet, end of story...with some explosions in there somewhere.
Maybe it's becuase we're tired of all these, paper-thin, shallow, poorly-written, underdeveloped stories that do nothing more than sell toys and make stuff look pretty.

We LIKE good plot-driven stories. We LIKE well-developed characters and concepts. We LIKE deeper messages hidden within the story's context that make us think wiser about things.

In a nut-shell, we LIKE quality!

Thus far, two series have contained all of these and more: Beast Wars and Animated. Both of which didn't treat their characters like they were just toys that they were trying to sell and advertise, but were instead treated like fully individual persons in their own right, regardless of their fictional status. Each "main" character was either completely or almost completely three-dimensional (excluding background or minor characters), whereas a good majority of the bot cast of G1 and the live action movies were one or two dimensional at best.

The stories were carefully planned out better, spanning several episodes to develop everything and keep the audience in suspence and awe. Everything didn't come out all at once, and little by little that stories unfolded, growing and evolving into amazing works of art. That's quality.


This just supports my point of why you dont need that in a Transformers movie. You said episodes, assuming it has to be a TV show, because you just cant do movies like that, have 98 movies about the same thing. And since there are only 2 series with character development, and most of the other series where sucessful why do you need it in the movies?
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075370)
Posted by SlyTF1 on May 17th, 2010 @ 2:01pm CDT
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote: Besides, ROTF did have character development. Sam, Leo, Simmons, Jetfire, Wheelie, Sam's parents, and maybe even Optimus all changed through the movie.



It's hard to peg down weather or not you're being sarcastic or if this is your opinion. :P


Its not an oppinion its a fact, they did change through the movie.



My mistake, wrong terminology. Also: can you really count Jetfire in that list? (I just noticed him in there, yay for my observational skills) I mean the only character development I saw in him was from crazy, bearded, and senile old man, to armor. (*Awesome* crazy, bearded, and senile, old man who wielded a giant axe sure, but still.)


When I first saw Jetfire, I saw him as a cranky old guy who hated everything...yeah,just like all old people... But at the end he sacrificed himself to save the planet, even though Optimus took his body parts and threw them to the ground with no "thank you" he still helped save the world.
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075377)
Posted by Evil_the_Nub on May 17th, 2010 @ 2:19pm CDT
First-Aid wrote:
gigazarak wrote:
Diem wrote:
Burn wrote:Yeah see, I just get this bad feeling now that this cartoon is going to be a huge fanwank, rehashing old stuff, and not really doing much for the fandom.

Oh well. Poop happens.
Agreed so hard.

I tend to agree too. It's nice to hear that Cullen will be back, if only for nostalgia reasons, but it really could be an indication that they are just going to be treading over old material/ideas/themes, just like the toys at the moment, with repaint after repaint,


But, if you look at the reviews and reactions to the toys from fans, that is EXACTLY what everyone wants! G1 returns! It's the shiznit! Everything gets compared unfavorably to G1 on this and other fan sites. Change is evil!

That is hilarious, for decades now people have been screaming "more G1!" now that Peter Cullen is going to be Optimus again people are saying "it's too G1!"
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075380)
Posted by Pyrostrata on May 17th, 2010 @ 2:36pm CDT
This news brings a smile to my face! :D

Mr Cullen is, and always will be, Optimus Prime to me. :APPLAUSE:

Bring on the scheduling information and I will SO be there!
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075391)
Posted by gigazarak on May 17th, 2010 @ 3:02pm CDT
Evil_the_Nub wrote:
First-Aid wrote:
gigazarak wrote:
Diem wrote:
Burn wrote:Yeah see, I just get this bad feeling now that this cartoon is going to be a huge fanwank, rehashing old stuff, and not really doing much for the fandom.

Oh well. Poop happens.
Agreed so hard.

I tend to agree too. It's nice to hear that Cullen will be back, if only for nostalgia reasons, but it really could be an indication that they are just going to be treading over old material/ideas/themes, just like the toys at the moment, with repaint after repaint,


But, if you look at the reviews and reactions to the toys from fans, that is EXACTLY what everyone wants! G1 returns! It's the shiznit! Everything gets compared unfavorably to G1 on this and other fan sites. Change is evil!

That is hilarious, for decades now people have been screaming "more G1!" now that Peter Cullen is going to be Optimus again people are saying "it's too G1!"


I just hope that Cullen doesn't phone it in, he may has well have in the movies, for me, he's probably one of the only reasons to see the movie! For those warm and squishy feelings his voice brings to the show reminding me of days gone by, but thats about it. His voice will probably do the same thing when it comes to this new series, because like many others, he IS Optimus Prime to me, but it MAY be the only reason to watch it!

Sabrblade wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:Why is everyone so obsessed with this plot and character development bullshit? I could understand if it was any other movie other than Transformers, but it just doesnt fking matter! Its robots coming to earth looking for a fuel source to get back to their planet, end of story...with some explosions in there somewhere.
Maybe it's becuase we're tired of all these, paper-thin, shallow, poorly-written, underdeveloped stories that do nothing more than sell toys and make stuff look pretty.

We LIKE good plot-driven stories. We LIKE well-developed characters and concepts. We LIKE deeper messages hidden within the story's context that make us think wiser about things.

In a nut-shell, we LIKE quality!

Thus far, two series have contained all of these and more: Beast Wars and Animated. Both of which didn't treat their characters like they were just toys that they were trying to sell and advertise, but were instead treated like fully individual persons in their own right, regardless of their fictional status. Each "main" character was either completely or almost completely three-dimensional (excluding background or minor characters), whereas a good majority of the bot cast of G1 and the live action movies were one or two dimensional at best.

The stories were carefully planned out better, spanning several episodes to develop everything and keep the audience in suspence and awe. Everything didn't come out all at once, and little by little that stories unfolded, growing and evolving into amazing works of art. That's quality.


God this is so on the money! Good one Sabrblade you've hit the nail on the head there!! Quality is the key, you can almost smell bad quality stuff, like Armada, Energon and Cybertron, and yeah they were just dubs of the Japanese series, which most of the time, don't translate well into english anyway, but it just shows a lack of commitment to quality media. You can't fault Animated for this, you can't fault Beast Wars for this, hell I'm going to be controversial and suggest that even Beast Machines can't be faulted for being a bad quality show either! The intent was there to produce quality, even if it didn't turn out to everyones liking!

Throwing Cullen into the mix CAN SUGGEST that it's just a show by numbers, add a portion of Cullen, add a pinch of that and BAM! Instant show! Just add Marketing! But that probably wont produce quality. I just hope that have someone GOOD overseeing the entire production, someone who knows what a good quality show can be, a show that can appeal to kids at the same time appealing to the older fans, EXACTLY what Animated did, we will just have to wait and see.
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075393)
Posted by BattleRoller23 on May 17th, 2010 @ 3:07pm CDT
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075494)
Posted by Elita One on May 17th, 2010 @ 7:24pm CDT
Burn wrote:Yeah see, I just get this bad feeling now that this cartoon is going to be a huge fanwank, rehashing old stuff, and not really doing much for the fandom.

Oh well. Poop happens.

Don't knock fanwanks :P. Reading this news has made my day today. Got a damn cold, this news makes me feel a bit better. Wonder what channel will show this in Australia? Im guessing ABC 3(digital kids free to air channel) as Marvel Superhero Squad is on there.
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075512)
Posted by Burn on May 17th, 2010 @ 8:24pm CDT
Evil_the_Nub wrote:
First-Aid wrote:
gigazarak wrote:
Diem wrote:
Burn wrote:Yeah see, I just get this bad feeling now that this cartoon is going to be a huge fanwank, rehashing old stuff, and not really doing much for the fandom.

Oh well. Poop happens.
Agreed so hard.

I tend to agree too. It's nice to hear that Cullen will be back, if only for nostalgia reasons, but it really could be an indication that they are just going to be treading over old material/ideas/themes, just like the toys at the moment, with repaint after repaint,


But, if you look at the reviews and reactions to the toys from fans, that is EXACTLY what everyone wants! G1 returns! It's the shiznit! Everything gets compared unfavorably to G1 on this and other fan sites. Change is evil!

That is hilarious, for decades now people have been screaming "more G1!" now that Peter Cullen is going to be Optimus again people are saying "it's too G1!"


Yeah well i've never been one of those people. I WANT to see a fresh take (like BW/BM did) on things.

Let Prime and Megatron and all the other "big names" take a back seat for once, let's have them as background characters and see some new oil get some screen time.

Let's see a story that doesn't revolve around the Autobots trying to stop the Decepticons in their mad quest to stockpile energon/collect minicons/chase after the allspark, let's see some interesting human characters that have a set and can hold their own with giant robots and not be annoying and/or there for comedic value.

It can be done. Just not by the two hacks that are writing.
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075514)
Posted by Name_Violation on May 17th, 2010 @ 8:39pm CDT
SlyTF1 wrote:
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote: Besides, ROTF did have character development. Sam, Leo, Simmons, Jetfire, Wheelie, Sam's parents, and maybe even Optimus all changed through the movie.



It's hard to peg down weather or not you're being sarcastic or if this is your opinion. :P


Its not an oppinion its a fact, they did change through the movie.

Yeah.. they changed into a truck, and a jet and a different truck....
Re: Peter Cullen To Voice Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime! (1075522)
Posted by Galvatron X on May 17th, 2010 @ 9:24pm CDT
Diem wrote:
Well, we already know it has Prime and Bumblebee and I'll bet any amount of money that it has Megatron and Starscream too. The Autobots will arrive on Earth and befriend the locals, Starscream will stab Megatron in the back, Prime and Megatron will battle at the end while spouting philosophy at each other...

I'm really getting sick of the same characters getting trotted out over and over.

If it does turn out to be different I'll be both very pleased and very surprised. I really hope they can do something new.


Amen, Diem, I'm with ya. I'm sick of the SAME...OLD...PREMISE time after time.

Beast Wars and Beast Machines didn't follow that formula and they're considered as possibly the best TFs cartoons ever! Well, Beast Wars is, anyway... :lol: (Seriously, though, I love Beast Machines!)

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