Evil_the_Nub wrote:First-Aid wrote:gigazarak wrote:Diem wrote:Burn wrote:Yeah see, I just get this bad feeling now that this cartoon is going to be a huge fanwank, rehashing old stuff, and not really doing much for the fandom.
Oh well. Poop happens.
Agreed so hard.
I tend to agree too. It's nice to hear that Cullen will be back, if only for nostalgia reasons, but it really could be an indication that they are just going to be treading over old material/ideas/themes, just like the toys at the moment, with repaint after repaint,
But, if you look at the reviews and reactions to the toys from fans, that is EXACTLY what everyone wants! G1 returns! It's the shiznit! Everything gets compared unfavorably to G1 on this and other fan sites. Change is evil!
That is hilarious, for decades now people have been screaming "more G1!" now that Peter Cullen is going to be Optimus again people are saying "it's too G1!"
I just hope that Cullen doesn't phone it in, he may has well have in the movies,
for me, he's probably one of the only reasons to see the movie! For those warm and squishy feelings his voice brings to the show reminding me of days gone by, but thats about it. His voice will probably do the same thing when it comes to this new series, because like many others, he IS Optimus Prime to me, but it MAY be the only reason to watch it!
Sabrblade wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Why is everyone so obsessed with this plot and character development bullshit? I could understand if it was any other movie other than Transformers, but it just doesnt fking matter! Its robots coming to earth looking for a fuel source to get back to their planet, end of story...with some explosions in there somewhere.
Maybe it's becuase we're tired of all these, paper-thin, shallow, poorly-written, underdeveloped stories that do nothing more than sell toys and make stuff look pretty.
We LIKE good plot-driven stories. We LIKE well-developed characters and concepts. We LIKE deeper messages hidden within the story's context that make us think wiser about things.
In a nut-shell, we LIKE
quality!Thus far, two series have contained all of these and more: Beast Wars and Animated. Both of which didn't treat their characters like they were just toys that they were trying to sell and advertise, but were instead treated like fully individual persons in their own right, regardless of their fictional status. Each "main" character was either completely or almost completely three-dimensional (excluding background or minor characters), whereas a good majority of the bot cast of G1 and the live action movies were one or two dimensional at best.
The stories were carefully planned out better, spanning several episodes to develop everything and keep the audience in suspence and awe. Everything didn't come out all at once, and little by little that stories unfolded, growing and evolving into amazing works of art. That's quality.
God this is so on the money! Good one
Sabrblade you've hit the nail on the head there!! Quality is the key, you can almost smell bad quality stuff, like Armada, Energon and Cybertron, and yeah they were just dubs of the Japanese series, which most of the time, don't translate well into english anyway, but it just shows a lack of commitment to quality media. You can't fault Animated for this, you can't fault Beast Wars for this, hell I'm going to be controversial and suggest that even Beast Machines can't be faulted for being a bad quality show either! The intent was there to produce quality, even if it didn't turn out to everyones liking!
Throwing Cullen into the mix
CAN SUGGEST that it's just a show by numbers, add a portion of Cullen, add a pinch of that and BAM! Instant show! Just add Marketing! But that probably wont produce quality. I just hope that have someone GOOD overseeing the entire production, someone who knows what a good quality show can be, a show that can appeal to kids at the same time appealing to the older fans, EXACTLY what Animated did, we will just have to wait and see.
