New Poster for Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege, with Possible Omega Supreme Tease
Wednesday, September 19th, 2018 4:15AM CDT
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The image, mirrored below, once more shows the main Autobot cast of the Ark, with Optimus Prime, Chromia, Red Alert and Hound, Sideswipe, and Prowl - with yet again some hints at Tetrajets as part of the composition, and one special tease so far not entirely made clear: Omega Supreme's rocket from the character's alt mode. Or maybe we're just reading into the image. Check it out below, and let us know what you think!
From Tomy (TakaraTomy), as the first chapter of the original trilogy of the toy "WAR FOR CYBERTRON TRILOGY" (Transformers Siege) series, chasing the story of the deformed robot character "Transformers" with a modified figure Appeared.
The first one is seven kinds including "SG - 06 Optimus Prime". Realistic dirty painting and effect parts are introduced in some characters.
Below, excerpt from the press release.
Takara Tomy Co., Ltd. (President and CEO: Kazuhiro Kojima / Katsushika-ku, Tokyo) is a toy original trilogy "WAR WAR FOR FORY CYBERTRON Cybertrone TRILOGY Trilogy" that tracks the story of a transformation robot character "Transformers" with a deformed figure As the first chapter, I will release the "TRANSFORMERS SIEGE Transformersie" series from February 2019.
The first one is seven kinds including "SG - 06 Optimus Prime" (5,500 yen / tax excluded), and these reservations are made from September 11, 2018 (Tue), toys specialty shops nationwide, mass sales Acceptance will be accepted at toys department of stores etc, Internet shop, official TAKARATOMY shopping site "TAKARATOMY MALL" https://takaratomymall.jp/shop/ etc.
"TRANSFORMERS SIEGE" reproduces the battle of the Transformers Corps of Justice "Autobot" and the Transformers Corps of Evil "Decepticon" in Toy, which happened in their mother star "Cybatron Star" before the Transformers came to Earth It is a series that can be done.
In order to reproduce the fierce struggle with toys, it is characterized by some characters introducing 'realistic paint painting' which tells a fierce battle scene and 'effect parts' which reproduces attack action with weapons.
The story of "TRANSFORMERS SIEGE" is scheduled to be released on October 2018 at the official website of TAKARATOMY · Transformers (https://tf.takaratomy.co.jp/).
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Posted by ZeroWolf on September 19th, 2018 @ 4:26am CDT
Wonder if there will be writing all over this one as well...
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on September 19th, 2018 @ 5:53am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Are we talking about one of the towers in the background or the ark in the poster? I'm hoping it's the ark myself So red alert looks to be a head swap but what about Prowl:-?
Wonder if there will be writing all over this one as well...
Prowl's chest makes me think he could be new, but I also think they could retool maybe TLK Barricade to use as Prowl's base like how Scourge and Highbrow from TR were "retools". I could just not be giving Hasbro/Takara enough credit though. Here's hoping the line's good in hand
Posted by Mr.MicroMaster on September 19th, 2018 @ 6:05am CDT
Posted by Randomhero on September 19th, 2018 @ 7:06am CDT
Posted by ScottyP on September 19th, 2018 @ 7:41am CDT
That was my thought as well.Randomhero wrote:Looks more like it’s juat a building
Posted by Sabrblade on September 19th, 2018 @ 8:02am CDT
Yeah, that tower would make for a not very aerodynamic rocket.ScottyP wrote:That was my thought as well.Randomhero wrote:Looks more like it’s juat a building
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on September 19th, 2018 @ 8:43am CDT
Randomhero wrote:Looks more like it’s juat a building
People are gonna see what they want. I look at this and see the Ark as Omega because my logic is "Why show it in two posters unless it's going to be some new release or set or something?". But others look at it and just see the Ark as a bit of flavor for the picture or something dynamic. We'll find out if/when they announce the Titan for the year. Personally I think it's be cool if they somehow figured out a way to do both a G1 alt mode and Animated's. As long as there's no more Eneregon... *shudders*
Posted by Va'al on September 19th, 2018 @ 9:01am CDT
I see spreems.
Posted by Chriphord on September 19th, 2018 @ 9:03am CDT
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Randomhero wrote:Looks more like it’s juat a building
People are gonna see what they want. I look at this and see the Ark as Omega because my logic is "Why show it in two posters unless it's going to be some new release or set or something?". But others look at it and just see the Ark as a bit of flavor for the picture or something dynamic. We'll find out if/when they announce the Titan for the year. Personally I think it's be cool if they somehow figured out a way to do both a G1 alt mode and Animated's. As long as there's no more Eneregon... *shudders*
No "choo choo" for you?
Posted by Sabrblade on September 19th, 2018 @ 9:13am CDT
The news post wasn't talking about the Ark being Omega, it was talking about that spiky tower in the middle of the poster being Omega's rocket mode.Sentinel_Primal wrote:Randomhero wrote:Looks more like it’s juat a building
People are gonna see what they want. I look at this and see the Ark as Omega
Posted by DerrikDGreat on September 19th, 2018 @ 9:32am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 19th, 2018 @ 9:50am CDT
Va'al wrote:
I see spreems.
Hmm...I can sort of see it, but at the same time, a tower sometimes is just a tower. I can still dream its the ark though, with a lot of panel folding so he looks like the g1 robot to fit with the line.
Also unless I'm mistaken was there a bit there in the post which said Takara Tomy were showing off the story of the set soon?
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on September 19th, 2018 @ 9:53am CDT
Posted by galvatron00 on September 19th, 2018 @ 10:48am CDT
SPECULATION ABOUNDS!!
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on September 19th, 2018 @ 10:57am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:The news post wasn't talking about the Ark being Omega, it was talking about that spiky tower in the middle of the poster being Omega's rocket mode.Sentinel_Primal wrote:Randomhero wrote:Looks more like it’s juat a building
People are gonna see what they want. I look at this and see the Ark as Omega
I'm well aware that the post was referring to the tower. I was just saying that some look at the tower and say it's Omega, and others look at the Ark and say it's Omega. It's about perspective and I was giving mine
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on September 19th, 2018 @ 11:15am CDT
I can see it, and I would be hyped for an Omega Supreme figure!
Posted by AcademyofDrX on September 19th, 2018 @ 11:47am CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on September 19th, 2018 @ 12:38pm CDT
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Sometimes a cigar is JUST a cigar.
Giant cigar confirmed for next Transformers Generations Titan Class figure!
AcademyofDrX wrote:Looks like Red Alert will have a black head, not that there was ever much doubt.
Boo, Hasbro! Red Alert should always be a ginger!
Posted by Randomhero on September 19th, 2018 @ 1:39pm CDT
Posted by starrhero on September 19th, 2018 @ 1:44pm CDT
He can transform into the classic spaceship platform with a tank, but instead of just a standard looking rocket, we have the ark to replace it. It would make sense continuity wise if we're trying to stick to G1, as you can simply say they used OS as their platform for the ark, and it could please those who want an animated callback.
Maybe? Who knows?
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 19th, 2018 @ 1:52pm CDT
starrhero wrote:I'm noticing that people are either thinking that OS is either going to be the Ark, or something akin to his original G1 self, but my question is... why not both?
He can transform into the classic spaceship platform with a tank, but instead of just a standard looking rocket, we have the ark to replace it. It would make sense continuity wise if we're trying to stick to G1, as you can simply say they used OS as their platform for the ark, and it could please those who want an animated callback.
Maybe? Who knows?
This would be the best of both worlds but alas its too sensible an option
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on September 19th, 2018 @ 2:06pm CDT
starrhero wrote:I'm noticing that people are either thinking that OS is either going to be the Ark, or something akin to his original G1 self, but my question is... why not both?
He can transform into the classic spaceship platform with a tank, but instead of just a standard looking rocket, we have the ark to replace it. It would make sense continuity wise if we're trying to stick to G1, as you can simply say they used OS as their platform for the ark, and it could please those who want an animated callback.
Maybe? Who knows?
That's... Actually a great idea. I was thinking it could be more like that 3rd party company that made Omega from the original WFC where it could achieve both at separate times, but now your idea sounds awesome. Just enough G1 for the fans from the 80s, but also a reference to Animated for the younger fans
Posted by o.supreme on September 19th, 2018 @ 2:08pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:And well also get the outcry of why he doesn’t walk like the old toy like we had to listen to when Trypticon came out.
Hmm..I don't recall much outcry at the lack of motorized movement. I didn't expect Trypticon to have it, nor Skylynx, nor a Modern OS (if we get it). The only issue I had with Trypitcon was his shortness next to Metroplex & Fortress Maximus. But it's not a big deal in hindsight, still a great toy, and glad mine did not have the defects that earlier releases had.
NYCC is just over 2 weeks away. I am excited for any reveals we get, since my definite purchases on this siege line currently are at zero, but there are 3 *potential* purchases, based on what may or may not be revealed at the Convention. Also it appears that in the past, there has not always been an exclusive toy released at NYCC. So my *hopes* for anything that may be a final PotP release are scanty at best.
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 19th, 2018 @ 2:24pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on September 19th, 2018 @ 2:26pm CDT
Posted by Skritz on September 19th, 2018 @ 3:17pm CDT
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on September 19th, 2018 @ 3:30pm CDT
Posted by Skritz on September 19th, 2018 @ 3:40pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 19th, 2018 @ 3:42pm CDT
Posted by Randomhero on September 19th, 2018 @ 3:47pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:Randomhero wrote:And well also get the outcry of why he doesn’t walk like the old toy like we had to listen to when Trypticon came out.
Hmm..I don't recall much outcry at the lack of motorized movement. I didn't expect Trypticon to have it, nor Skylynx, nor a Modern OS (if we get it). The only issue I had with Trypitcon was his shortness next to Metroplex & Fortress Maximus. But it's not a big deal in hindsight, still a great toy, and glad mine did not have the defects that earlier releases had.
NYCC is just over 2 weeks away. I am excited for any reveals we get, since my definite purchases on this siege line currently are at zero, but there are 3 *potential* purchases, based on what may or may not be revealed at the Convention. Also it appears that in the past, there has not always been an exclusive toy released at NYCC. So my *hopes* for anything that may be a final PotP release are scanty at best.
Oh there was and there were plenty thinking that the reason legends trypticon was $80 more was because takara was making the legs electronic and could walk and then there were people hoping 3rd parties would make longer legs to push his height and make legs move.
Aaaaaand none of that happened
Posted by Randomhero on September 19th, 2018 @ 3:50pm CDT
starrhero wrote:I'm noticing that people are either thinking that OS is either going to be the Ark, or something akin to his original G1 self, but my question is... why not both?
He can transform into the classic spaceship platform with a tank, but instead of just a standard looking rocket, we have the ark to replace it. It would make sense continuity wise if we're trying to stick to G1, as you can simply say they used OS as their platform for the ark, and it could please those who want an animated callback.
Maybe? Who knows?
Because it’s Generations which means it’ll look just like the old cartoon and toy but with knees. That’s where we’re at now. They’re not reinventing characters anymore. They’re just making them with articulation.
Posted by Emerje on September 19th, 2018 @ 3:52pm CDT
Va'al wrote:I see spreems.
Just the tip.
Or at least at first, but the more I look at it I think I'm on board with this. It's oddly isolated in the background with the other buildings acting sort of like camouflage to blend in. It's almost like the city was built around him with some extra junk of a different color built onto the rocket to turn it into a city tower.
Whether or not this is an Easter egg or a teaser is yet to be seen. If this is our next Titan I'm going to be a little disappointed after they kept making comments about the next Titan being something "BIG". To me that would mean another 24 incher, but I think many (most?) of us want him to be 18" to go with Devastator.
As long as he doesn't turn into the Ark or have anything at all to do with it I'll be happy. I still hate that idea and I'm starting to really dislike Animated Omega for putting that in peoples' heads.
Emerje
Posted by Skritz on September 19th, 2018 @ 3:59pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Can't wait till we get more in hand shots of the weaponisers for that reason.
I mean they're basically 2000-era 'magic mushroom' supermodes but for every figure with enough 5mm ports to stick them to. Make me wish we got a new Godbomber and Overload which worked that way.
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 19th, 2018 @ 4:03pm CDT
@Randomhero sounds like when titans returns was first revealed and every one hoped that Takara would give galvatron a proper head.
Posted by o.supreme on September 19th, 2018 @ 4:05pm CDT
Emerje wrote:Whether or not this is an Easter egg or a teaser is yet to be seen. If this is our next Titan I'm going to be a little disappointed after they kept making comments about the next Titan being something "BIG". To me that would mean another 24 incher, but I think many (most?) of us want him to be 18" to go with Devastator.
As long as he doesn't turn into the Ark or have anything at all to do with it I'll be happy. I still hate that idea and I'm starting to really dislike Animated Omega for putting that in peoples' heads.
Emerje
I'm not boasting, but just reiterating that Omega has pretty much been my favorite character since day one, and While i am very particular about his interpretation, (I dont disagree with the above statement)...I can't say I hate animated OS. It was fine for that series.
While I still believe that he should have his original animated series look, and should be designed with his rival Devaststor in mind...the sizes have been kind of all over the place.
Two 24" Titans from the same mold (Metro/FM), Two 18" combiner Titans (Dev and Predaking), and a 19" Trypticon (height can vary based on how he's posed, but most media states 19 IIRC)...
Anyway, I'm going to propose perhaps compromise that would satisfy most fans, at least in terms of size....
If we get a 19" Omega Supreme, this would be roughly in line with the animated series, where he was slightly bigger than Devastor, and all other combiners. however a 19" would also satisfy fans of the Omega/Trypticon rivalry from the WFC Video Game.
Posted by Randomhero on September 19th, 2018 @ 4:25pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:What's wrong with omega being the Ark?
@Randomhero sounds like when titans returns was first revealed and every one hoped that Takara would give galvatron a proper head.
Yeah becuase people saw the design and said “See he wasn’t suppose to be a headmaster!” But in reality it was because it was a design commissioned to Emiliano Santalucia and was told “Just design a Galvatron” and had no idea of the gimmick to the line yet.
Something people still haven’t figured out that when Emiliano Santalucia or Hasbro releases his toy designs he’s not told the gimmick, just make a new modern g1 version of this character.
Posted by Randomhero on September 19th, 2018 @ 4:27pm CDT
Emerje wrote:Va'al wrote:I see spreems.
Just the tip.
Or at least at first, but the more I look at it I think I'm on board with this. It's oddly isolated in the background with the other buildings acting sort of like camouflage to blend in. It's almost like the city was built around him with some extra junk of a different color built onto the rocket to turn it into a city tower.
Whether or not this is an Easter egg or a teaser is yet to be seen. If this is our next Titan I'm going to be a little disappointed after they kept making comments about the next Titan being something "BIG". To me that would mean another 24 incher, but I think many (most?) of us want him to be 18" to go with Devastator.
As long as he doesn't turn into the Ark or have anything at all to do with it I'll be happy. I still hate that idea and I'm starting to really dislike Animated Omega for putting that in peoples' heads.
Emerje
Yes, how dare Hasbro reinvent a character for a new continuity and series and change him up that fits with the story and context of what its doing. shame. I need my shame bell
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 19th, 2018 @ 5:08pm CDT
I still stand by the fact that Animated was the best overall TF show we have ever gotten, and Omega as the Ark, or even just as a vessel that looks like the Ark, makes far more sense and would be fantastic, especially if he can interact with Micromasters and Battlemasters
Posted by Emerje on September 19th, 2018 @ 5:41pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:If we get a 19" Omega Supreme, this would be roughly in line with the animated series, where he was slightly bigger than Devastor, and all other combiners. however a 19" would also satisfy fans of the Omega/Trypticon rivalry from the WFC Video Game.
I'm fine with 19", I just prefer to see 24" reserved for citybots, and maybe planets, as something special. Considering how many moving parts a new G1 Omega would have they probably would need to make him smaller to stay at the price point.
I'm a little annoyed that they've been teasing the next Titan like it's going to be something massive the likes of which we've never seen before and the hidden messages seemed to be pointing towards a massive threat (possibly Unicron), and it might just be Omega. Don't get me wrong, Omega is going to be amazing no matter what, but I doubt it'll live up to the hype.
Randomhero wrote:Yes, how dare Hasbro reinvent a character for a new continuity and series and change him up that fits with the story and context of what its doing. shame. I need my shame bell
What new continuity? We were told Siege takes place during the final days on Cybertron just before the first episode of the cartoon. None of the other characters have been greatly reimagined, most are barely cybertronian looking, why should we expect a massive overhaul for Omega? And really it isn't even entirely about Omega, it's also about not messing with the Ark and everything it represents as their base of operations and home of Teletraan-1. I don't like the idea of two entirely separate things being mashed together for no reason.
Emerje
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 19th, 2018 @ 5:46pm CDT
Posted by Skritz on September 19th, 2018 @ 5:58pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:starrhero wrote:I'm noticing that people are either thinking that OS is either going to be the Ark, or something akin to his original G1 self, but my question is... why not both?
He can transform into the classic spaceship platform with a tank, but instead of just a standard looking rocket, we have the ark to replace it. It would make sense continuity wise if we're trying to stick to G1, as you can simply say they used OS as their platform for the ark, and it could please those who want an animated callback.
Maybe? Who knows?
Because it’s Generations which means it’ll look just like the old cartoon and toy but with knees. That’s where we’re at now. They’re not reinventing characters anymore. They’re just making them with articulation.
For characters who have been a mainstay ever since the likes of Classics it's getting old, but there is still a decent chunk of GEEWUN badly in need of update, with Omega Supreme being one of the last 'toon guys alongside Shockwave. Titans Return gave spotlight to neglected Seasdon 4/The Rebirth/early Japanese TF-era characters, including a return of the Headmaster gimmick.
So overall I'm 50/50 on getting 'just G1 with articulation': I don't really need five more Optimus Prime unless they do something unique but for those few remaining characters badly in need of an update? Yeah, sure, remake the G1 figure with articulation. I mean you do realize we never got a 'proper' CHUG Shockwave, right?
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on September 19th, 2018 @ 6:05pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Has it directly been said that this is 100% cartoon continuity, and not just something that's like the cartoon continuity (sort of like how beast wars follows on from a combined comics and cartoon continuity). I mean Windblade will appear in the next three years...
Nope. They just said that that was the sort of setting they were going for with the line and alt modes. Otherwise I doubt that Magnus would have received the RiD vehicle mode
Posted by Nemesis Primal on September 19th, 2018 @ 6:31pm CDT
Has it been confirmed yet if this poster has any secret text yet?
Posted by Sabrblade on September 19th, 2018 @ 6:51pm CDT
He was talking about Animated Omega Supreme turning into the Orion instead a rocket base like G1 Omega did.Emerje wrote:Randomhero wrote:Yes, how dare Hasbro reinvent a character for a new continuity and series and change him up that fits with the story and context of what its doing. shame. I need my shame bell
What new continuity?
Posted by Short Circuit on September 19th, 2018 @ 6:58pm CDT
I think that since the “Aligned” continuity, Hasbro wants to celebrate all the series with each line. I thought animated was a great example of this; recreate the characters we all know and love in a new setting and a unique aesthetic. In that vein, I wouldn’t put it past them to make an Omega Spreem that turns into the ark like animated. Just like g1, he’s an important transport for the characters, could have a “headmaster” tank still, and also retain a base mode by unfolding like all the Titan figures and TR leaders have had.
It would be a great G1 homage and a celebration of the characters history, like Ultra Magnus. I’m no psychic, but go ahead and quote me when it comes to pass xD
Posted by Emerje on September 19th, 2018 @ 7:23pm CDT
Sentinel_Primal wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Has it directly been said that this is 100% cartoon continuity, and not just something that's like the cartoon continuity (sort of like how beast wars follows on from a combined comics and cartoon continuity). I mean Windblade will appear in the next three years...
Nope. They just said that that was the sort of setting they were going for with the line and alt modes. Otherwise I doubt that Magnus would have received the RiD vehicle mode
Warden himself told Seibertron (Ryan) at the SDCC press event that Siege is a "gritty retelling of the '84 pilot". You can interpret that however you want, but that sure sounds G1 cartoon based to me. Obviously they've padded it out with characters that didn't leave Cybertron immediately like Chromia, the Targetmasters, and the Micromasters, but that's all just populating the planet with cool stuff than drastically injecting new elements into the story. Just think of them all as being off screen in the first episode.
As for Magnus, I don't look at him as being a great departure from the original. I think of this as his Cybertronian form while the G1 figure is his "future Earth" form.
Sabrblade wrote:He was talking about Animated Omega Supreme turning into the Orion instead a rocket base like G1 Omega did.Emerje wrote:Randomhero wrote:Yes, how dare Hasbro reinvent a character for a new continuity and series and change him up that fits with the story and context of what its doing. shame. I need my shame bell
What new continuity?
Then he's mistaken because I actually like Omega Supreme within the setting of Animated, I cheered the first time he transformed. I just don't like the idea of the concept being recycled into such a purely G1 setting.
Emerje
Posted by Wolfman Jake on September 20th, 2018 @ 12:20am CDT
That said, yes, different things have been done with characters in different G1 continuities, like the G1 cartoon, the original Marvel comics, the character biographies, the later Japanese series, the Dreamwave comics, the IDW comics, the Transformers Collector's Club fiction, etc.
I think what makes things different with Omega Supreme being the Ark is that it's a radical departure for TWO things at once, and maybe that's just too much change for some people. Plus, it would be weird for Omega Supreme to turn into the Ark, get the Autobots to earth, and then just lay there dormant forever while the rest of the Autobots run around inside his body as their base of operations. He wouldn't even get to fight his rival Devastator on Earth!
Posted by Short Circuit on September 20th, 2018 @ 12:39am CDT
Again, similar to animated, but it could be tweaked/retconned to fit within the timeline of G1.
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 20th, 2018 @ 4:08am CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:I think the issue people have with a possible Siege Omega Supreme turning into the Autobot Ark is just that the they are two very separate things in the G1 continuity, and as much as this new "War for Cybetron" trilogy isn't G1, it still kind of is, as was the previous trilogy, even though it had some brand new fiction to go with it. If Siege is indeed a "gritty retelling of the 1984 pilot episode of Transformers," then the new WfC trilogy is essentially another "G1 continuity" a la the IDW comic book continuity we've had for the past decade and a half.
That said, yes, different things have been done with characters in different G1 continuities, like the G1 cartoon, the original Marvel comics, the character biographies, the later Japanese series, the Dreamwave comics, the IDW comics, the Transformers Collector's Club fiction, etc.
I think what makes things different with Omega Supreme being the Ark is that it's a radical departure for TWO things at once, and maybe that's just too much change for some people. Plus, it would be weird for Omega Supreme to turn into the Ark, get the Autobots to earth, and then just lay there dormant forever while the rest of the Autobots run around inside his body as their base of operations. He wouldn't even get to fight his rival Devastator on Earth!
I agree that this just seems another version of G1, the same as IDW and what they are doing with the new bumblebee graphic novels and star trek vs tf cross over.