Wolfman Jake wrote:I think the issue people have with a possible Siege Omega Supreme turning into the Autobot Ark is just that the they are two very separate things in the G1 continuity, and as much as this new "War for Cybetron" trilogy isn't G1, it still kind of is, as was the previous trilogy, even though it had some brand new fiction to go with it. If Siege is indeed a "gritty retelling of the 1984 pilot episode of Transformers," then the new WfC trilogy is essentially another "G1 continuity" a la the IDW comic book continuity we've had for the past decade and a half.
That said, yes, different things have been done with characters in different G1 continuities, like the G1 cartoon, the original Marvel comics, the character biographies, the later Japanese series, the Dreamwave comics, the IDW comics, the Transformers Collector's Club fiction, etc.
I think what makes things different with Omega Supreme being the Ark is that it's a radical departure for TWO things at once, and maybe that's just too much change for some people. Plus, it would be weird for Omega Supreme to turn into the Ark, get the Autobots to earth, and then just lay there dormant forever while the rest of the Autobots run around inside his body as their base of operations. He wouldn't even get to fight his rival Devastator on Earth!
Emerje wrote:Sentinel_Primal wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Has it directly been said that this is 100% cartoon continuity, and not just something that's like the cartoon continuity (sort of like how beast wars follows on from a combined comics and cartoon continuity). I mean Windblade will appear in the next three years...
Nope. They just said that that was the sort of setting they were going for with the line and alt modes. Otherwise I doubt that Magnus would have received the RiD vehicle mode
Warden himself told Seibertron (Ryan) at the SDCC press event that Siege is a "gritty retelling of the '84 pilot". You can interpret that however you want, but that sure sounds G1 cartoon based to me. Obviously they've padded it out with characters that didn't leave Cybertron immediately like Chromia, the Targetmasters, and the Micromasters, but that's all just populating the planet with cool stuff than drastically injecting new elements into the story. Just think of them all as being off screen in the first episode.
As for Magnus, I don't look at him as being a great departure from the original. I think of this as his Cybertronian form while the G1 figure is his "future Earth" form.Sabrblade wrote:He was talking about Animated Omega Supreme turning into the Orion instead a rocket base like G1 Omega did.Emerje wrote:Randomhero wrote:Yes, how dare Hasbro reinvent a character for a new continuity and series and change him up that fits with the story and context of what its doing. shame. I need my shame bell
What new continuity?
Then he's mistaken because I actually like Omega Supreme within the setting of Animated, I cheered the first time he transformed. I just don't like the idea of the concept being recycled into such a purely G1 setting.
Emerje
Randomhero wrote:
Not mistaken. Look at your own post.
“ I still hate that idea and I'm starting to really dislike Animated Omega for putting that in peoples' heads. ”
Yeah really sounds like you were cheering it on.
Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
Why wouldn't Skytread just be a new mold all on his own?Short Circuit wrote:Has anyone attempted a digibash or anything to guess how Skytread/Flywheels is going to look like? I figure he might be a heavy remould of Battletrap considering how many joints he used to accomplish 5 modes. I could definitely see a jet and tank sharing similar transformation engineering as BS and RT.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Why wouldn't Skytread just be a new mold all on his own?Short Circuit wrote:Has anyone attempted a digibash or anything to guess how Skytread/Flywheels is going to look like? I figure he might be a heavy remould of Battletrap considering how many joints he used to accomplish 5 modes. I could definitely see a jet and tank sharing similar transformation engineering as BS and RT.
Short Circuit wrote:I also prefer red alert with his red head simply for the fact that it makes him distinct from sunstreaker and (especially) sideswipe. Generations Red alert had this problem too.
If you had kept the Hasbro versions of Sideswipe and Sunstreaker along with the Henkei! Henkei! versions, you could have done a head-swap between the Hasbro versions to have had Tigertrack and Spin-Out alongside Sideswipe and Sunstreaker (represented by their Takara versions).Wolfman Jake wrote:Short Circuit wrote:I also prefer red alert with his red head simply for the fact that it makes him distinct from sunstreaker and (especially) sideswipe. Generations Red alert had this problem too.
Yeah, that's why I got the Henkei version of Red Alert ultimately. Then I got Henkei Sunstreaker to replace my Universe 2008 when I learned how much better the yellow paint and plastic blended on Takara's release. Then I had to trade up to Henkei Sideswipe so they'd all match with their chrome bling, lol!
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Short Circuit wrote:Has anyone attempted a digibash or anything to guess how Skytread/Flywheels is going to look like? I figure he might be a heavy remould of Battletrap considering how many joints he used to accomplish 5 modes. I could definitely see a jet and tank sharing similar transformation engineering as BS and RT.
Tekka wrote:What she doesn't realize is that Springer actually loves Rodimus.
ThunderThruster wrote:If Flywheels is a weaponizer, you could potentially use his weapons configurations to armour up Battletrap.
Sabrblade wrote:If you had kept the Hasbro versions of Sideswipe and Sunstreaker along with the Henkei! Henkei! versions, you could have done a head-swap between the Hasbro versions to have had Tigertrack and Spin-Out alongside Sideswipe and Sunstreaker (represented by their Takara versions).Wolfman Jake wrote:Short Circuit wrote:I also prefer red alert with his red head simply for the fact that it makes him distinct from sunstreaker and (especially) sideswipe. Generations Red alert had this problem too.
Yeah, that's why I got the Henkei version of Red Alert ultimately. Then I got Henkei Sunstreaker to replace my Universe 2008 when I learned how much better the yellow paint and plastic blended on Takara's release. Then I had to trade up to Henkei Sideswipe so they'd all match with their chrome bling, lol!
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Honestly, I think Flywheels is going to be a deluxe weaponizer instead of 2 legends that form a deluxe. First, there is no legends class anymore, so they pretty much have to sell it as a deluxe. The weaponizers are the shiny new thing that they came up with within the deluxe price point, and really only have 3 no-brainer type potential uses for them in Cog, Sixgun and Brunt. Adding flywheels to the mix would give them a nice 4 weaponizers, with 2 bots and 2 cons.
I really want it to follow the Battletrap design, but I just don't see it happening. (I'd gladly be wrong on this.)
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