New Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Shockwave, Blurr, Scourge

Optimum Supreme wrote:Hmmm... I think I prefer Hasbro's Scourge.

william-james88 wrote:

Optimum Supreme wrote:Hmmm... I think I prefer Hasbro's Scourge.

I do too, the vehicle mode rocks on Hasbro's version!

As for the Robot mode, I find both as dull. Takara breaks up the colour a bit, but not enough, and thas because they'd rather stick to the animation model.

If anyone asked me which one below was the Takara one, and i didnt know, I wouldsay the one on the right simply because it has more dtail highlighted in paint apps, especially those nice paint apps on the side with silver and dark blue.

leokearon wrote:Having seen a couple of pics of Cancer/Crashbash being used instead of Lokos, exactly how well do the Titan Masters work as Headmaster Jr heads

In 2021, the Autobot Second Army has activated the transtector factory in G Nebula 89, and though they're routing all their energy into the factory's operations and thus run the risk of being unable to defend it, Grand Maximus insists that they must do their part of the plan to resurrect Optimus Prime on Cybertron. His own contribution is to implement the "Super Convoy Project", a plan to recreate the transtector that was meant for Prime but turned into Ginrai, but first he must find shelter for Cancer, Bullhorn, Wilder and Clouder, who've smuggled themselves into the base in search of new transtectors following their final battle.

With the base under siege by Overlord's troops and the space bridge network broken, Grand believes the only place where the humans can be safe is in the Legends Universe, and coordinates the opening of a portal with Fortress (who is less than enthused to receive the humans, but relents when his brother calls him out on getting too used to a peaceful life). Arriving in the Legends world, the former Headmaster Juniors are reunited with their Autobot counterparts, Minerva, Cab and Shūta, who explain that they joined Fortress's crew in search of them. As an apology for making them worry, Bullhorn presents them with new Headmaster-Braces that let them turn into Headmasters again. At that moment, Shockwave appears in the Legends Universe in search of Megatron, and marks Cancer as imperative to his plan...

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Optimum Supreme wrote:Hmmm... I think I prefer Hasbro's Scourge.

I do too, the vehicle mode rocks on Hasbro's version!

As for the Robot mode, I find both as dull. Takara breaks up the colour a bit, but not enough, and thas because they'd rather stick to the animation model.

If anyone asked me which one below was the Takara one, and i didnt know, I wouldsay the one on the right simply because it has more dtail highlighted in paint apps, especially those nice paint apps on the side with silver and dark blue.

I still like the TakaraTomy vehicle mode more, since the deco looks more... focused? As in, no random paint apps just for the sake of bringing out detail and accenting. As artists can attest, too many accents can bury the total look from view.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Optimum Supreme wrote:Hmmm... I think I prefer Hasbro's Scourge.

I do too, the vehicle mode rocks on Hasbro's version!

As for the Robot mode, I find both as dull. Takara breaks up the colour a bit, but not enough, and thas because they'd rather stick to the animation model.

If anyone asked me which one below was the Takara one, and i didnt know, I wouldsay the one on the right simply because it has more dtail highlighted in paint apps, especially those nice paint apps on the side with silver and dark blue.

I still like the TakaraTomy vehicle mode more, since the deco looks more... focused? As in, no random paint apps just for the sake of bringing out detail and accenting. As artists can attest, too many accents can bury the total look from view.

Z3ROhour wrote:I don't know if it has been discussed as of yet,

But

Blur
His canopy in vehicle mode...
WTFudge?

Am I doing something off?

I transform my new little buddy into vehicle mode
As one does
And
For some unknown reasons
(clearly my own fault)
The canopy does not
Can not
Will not
Form a seal over my littler buddy, Hyperfire.

Wassupwiddat?

Z3ROhour wrote:Blurr
His canopy in vehicle mode...

I transform my new little buddy into vehicle mode
As one does
And
For some unknown reasons
(clearly my own fault)
The canopy does not
Can not
Will not
Form a seal over my littler buddy, Hyperfire.

Z3ROhour wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Optimum Supreme wrote:Hmmm... I think I prefer Hasbro's Scourge.

I do too, the vehicle mode rocks on Hasbro's version!

As for the Robot mode, I find both as dull. Takara breaks up the colour a bit, but not enough, and thas because they'd rather stick to the animation model.

If anyone asked me which one below was the Takara one, and i didnt know, I wouldsay the one on the right simply because it has more dtail highlighted in paint apps, especially those nice paint apps on the side with silver and dark blue.

I still like the TakaraTomy vehicle mode more, since the deco looks more... focused? As in, no random paint apps just for the sake of bringing out detail and accenting. As artists can attest, too many accents can bury the total look from view.

I'm... conflicted.

I like Hasbro's exterior paint.
The silver, etc.

But I dig Takara's interiors.
And the touch on the blaster.

As for Blurr,
I really, really love Tak's colors!
Hasbro's seems fine-ish on the outside
But
The bot is way too monochromatic.
Cool
But a little...
Blah?

It's all moot anyway

I am a very patient man
But
I could not hold myself back any longer.
Heh!

Love is a fickle mistress...
And PLASTIC CRACK IS AN EVIL WHORE!

Oops.

I love you still, my darlings!
PLEASE DON'T ABANDON ME!

camzilla51 wrote: I get that it's supposed to be a toy accurate version, but... When you look at the toy it's trying to reference, I mean even THAT toy has more color variation than this new one.

william-james88 wrote:

camzilla51 wrote: I get that it's supposed to be a toy accurate version, but... When you look at the toy it's trying to reference, I mean even THAT toy has more color variation than this new one.

It being toy accurate is just something us fans came up with to make ourselves sleep better at night. As you say, its not even toy accurate that much. Hasbro never said thats what they were referencing, their references are all over the place these days. From what they said, they consider these new versions of these characters, including new decos not necessarily referencing anything. In reality, they just went with the usual way of having less paint apps.

And about the differences with the Scourge alt mode decos, I totally see what is meant by hasbro's added paint apps interupting the shape of the figure, but I still truly believe that if the Takara paint job had been on the Hasbro toy, many would have cried foul at the lack of paint apps. Especially in comparison to the other version which would have that detail on the side with the silver rims.

william-james88 wrote:

camzilla51 wrote: I get that it's supposed to be a toy accurate version, but... When you look at the toy it's trying to reference, I mean even THAT toy has more color variation than this new one.

It being toy accurate is just something us fans came up with to make ourselves sleep better at night. As you say, its not even toy accurate that much. Hasbro never said thats what they were referencing, their references are all over the place these days. From what they said, they consider these new versions of these characters, including new decos not necessarily referencing anything. In reality, they just went with the usual way of having less paint apps.

And about the differences with the Scourge alt mode decos, I totally see what is meant by hasbro's added paint apps interupting the shape of the figure, but I still truly believe that if the Takara paint job had been on the Hasbro toy, many would have cried foul at the lack of paint apps. Especially in comparison to the other version which would have that detail on the side with the silver rims.

camzilla51 wrote:What if the takara version had the side detail then? Say it was those silver peg hole bits. Would it be perfect then?

Nik Hero wrote:Actually at the least con they confirmed that they were going for toy accurate colors in the Titans Return line and in the future.

The comic is showing part of what happened to Blurr, Rodimus Prime, and Kup after they left the show (The Headmasters, that is) to go into space after Cybertron was destroyed. Looks like they found Planet Micro and Rodimus became a Microtransformer (a Micromaster).
[Shockwave]is going by the name "Longarm" in that disguised form of his (good thing there's no one named "Longarm" in any G1 fiction).

william-james88 wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:So is this an homage to TFA-Shockwave where he was featured as a double agent (style Counter/Punch)?

william-james88 wrote:

camzilla51 wrote:What if the takara version had the side detail then? Say it was those silver peg hole bits. Would it be perfect then?

Yeah, that would definitely make me stop thinking Hasbro was equivalent in paint job.

And thats how I would do it, the takara paint job with those side details painted, just to break up the white to day and not ignore molded detail. Also with the red painted on the side gun/lasers. I know Hasbro did that but I cant tell if Takara painted those openings red too.

Nik Hero wrote:Actually at the least con they confirmed that they were going for toy accurate colors in the Titans Return line and in the future.

It was ?! Do you have a quote or a link ot where you say that? Because from what I heard and read (no proof though), it seemed that Hasbro left it to the designer and it wasnt specific homages. All interviews point towards the decos being different to previous versions to as to distinguish this toy from the old and make it more new.

william-james88 wrote:Fellow Seibertronian Sabrblade explains the comic for us,

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Fellow Seibertronian Sabrblade explains the comic for us,

Not quite. Just those two bits and pieces I noticed, which are but a tiny portion of everything going on in that comic.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Fellow Seibertronian Sabrblade explains the comic for us,

Not quite. Just those two bits and pieces I noticed, which are but a tiny portion of everything going on in that comic.

Dont sell yourself short

Z3ROhour wrote:
But I dig Takara's interiors.
And the touch on the blaster.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Z3ROhour wrote:Blurr
His canopy in vehicle mode...

I transform my new little buddy into vehicle mode
As one does
And
For some unknown reasons
(clearly my own fault)
The canopy does not
Can not
Will not
Form a seal over my littler buddy, Hyperfire.

The answer is no, no it does not:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:And I much prefer Takara's paintjob on Scourge. That nice blue on the top covering a much more logical shape and space whereas the Hasbro one looks a bit messy and unfocused and doesn't really fit the general flow of the ship's shape. If that makes sense. i don't even care...

Optimum Supreme wrote:Honestly, all I'd change on Hasbro's deco is I'd give him the lighter thighs that Takara's has

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Seeing as how Takara Fortress Maximus isn't coming with guns, the question becomes, what's cheaper? US Max and buy the Taiwan sword or the SDCC set?

I really wish I saw the final pics of Blurr before the pre-orders sold out.

Delta Magnus wrote:Speaking of the Legends comic, it seems Cancer is now a (crossdressing?) idol singer.

Kurona wrote:Having never seen Masterforce, does this make sense with his character?

Delta Magnus wrote:Speaking of the Legends comic, it seems Cancer is now a (crossdressing?) idol singer.



This is either completely adorable or totally stupid.

william-james88 wrote:

Optimum Supreme wrote:Honestly, all I'd change on Hasbro's deco is I'd give him the lighter thighs that Takara's has

Yeah your right, thats all he needs. Thanks for this, I had forgotten about what the original toy looked like. I do like it when Hasbro goes all out on some aspects of a deco, as they did with CW Vortex and his chest.

Insurgent wrote:At least Cancer is wearing trousers at first.

I don't know why, but I'm loving the idea of Shockwave and Cancer just being buddies at a parade.


And for crying out loud TAI, put some clothes on!

william-james88 wrote:I dont know this stuff too well, can someone explain how Cancer is just a dude in one pic and then a headmaster robot in others?

william-james88 wrote:I dont know this stuff too well, can someone explain how Cancer is just a dude in one pic and then a headmaster robot in others?

"The Headmaster Juniors (ヘッドマスターJr. Heddomasutā Jr.) are a group of Earth humans selected by the Autobots and the Decepticons to fight by their side. They use a form of technology called Master-Braces to armor-up their bodies and allow themselves to transform into the heads of transtectors.

william-james88 wrote:I dont know this stuff too well, can someone explain how Cancer is just a dude in one pic and then a headmaster robot in others?