In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus
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Regular news source from weibo, user NOTRAB, has uploaded an image of the fully completed combiner of the Transforemrs: Power of the Primes toyline, featuring five Dinobots in one: Volcanicus!
The first two limbs and the torso - namely Slug, Swoop and Grimlock respectively - were all part of wave 1 of the toyline, in deluxe and voyager classes. The final two figures, which are used here as an arm and a leg, are Sludge and Snarl, both in thhe deluxe class again. Check it out below, and let us know what you think of this first full in-hand look at NOT The Beast!
The first two limbs and the torso - namely Slug, Swoop and Grimlock respectively - were all part of wave 1 of the toyline, in deluxe and voyager classes. The final two figures, which are used here as an arm and a leg, are Sludge and Snarl, both in thhe deluxe class again. Check it out below, and let us know what you think of this first full in-hand look at NOT The Beast!
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Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930020)
Posted by steals_your_goats on January 5th, 2018 @ 2:08pm CST
Posted by steals_your_goats on January 5th, 2018 @ 2:08pm CST
Snarl works much better as an arm than as a leg.
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930024)
Posted by Rated X on January 5th, 2018 @ 2:40pm CST
Posted by Rated X on January 5th, 2018 @ 2:40pm CST
I still dont get why this guy wasnt titan class size and predaking normal size. The scale ruins both sets.
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930026)
Posted by steals_your_goats on January 5th, 2018 @ 2:47pm CST
I agree about the dinobots but Predaking was the original biggest Combiner so I think it's fitting for him to try and reclaim that title.
Posted by steals_your_goats on January 5th, 2018 @ 2:47pm CST
Rated X wrote:I still dont get why this guy wasnt titan class size and predaking normal size. The scale ruins both sets.
I agree about the dinobots but Predaking was the original biggest Combiner so I think it's fitting for him to try and reclaim that title.
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930027)
Posted by o.supreme on January 5th, 2018 @ 2:49pm CST
Disappointing... a little...Ruined...No. In the original animated series, all the combiners were roughly scaled to the same size (in spite of the toy sizes). Of course I'd love a CW Devastator as 6 Deluxe, rather than 6 Voyagers, but Hasbro wanted to appeal to kids with something BIG for CW, so I get it. I don't mind Volcanicus scale, but PotP Predaking would be nice to have cross-play pattern with all the others....
On the other hand, PotP Predaking will be made of 5 Voyagers, rather than 6, so while he wont have the ability to mix-and-match with the others, he will be obviously smaller than CW Devastator. I'm guessing the size difference between Predaking, and the average CW/UW/PotP combiner will be something akin to Trypticon with Metroplex/Fort Max. Obviously different, but not different enough to be a huge discrepancy.
Posted by o.supreme on January 5th, 2018 @ 2:49pm CST
Rated X wrote:I still dont get why this guy wasnt titan class size and predaking normal size. The scale ruins both sets.
Disappointing... a little...Ruined...No. In the original animated series, all the combiners were roughly scaled to the same size (in spite of the toy sizes). Of course I'd love a CW Devastator as 6 Deluxe, rather than 6 Voyagers, but Hasbro wanted to appeal to kids with something BIG for CW, so I get it. I don't mind Volcanicus scale, but PotP Predaking would be nice to have cross-play pattern with all the others....
On the other hand, PotP Predaking will be made of 5 Voyagers, rather than 6, so while he wont have the ability to mix-and-match with the others, he will be obviously smaller than CW Devastator. I'm guessing the size difference between Predaking, and the average CW/UW/PotP combiner will be something akin to Trypticon with Metroplex/Fort Max. Obviously different, but not different enough to be a huge discrepancy.
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930028)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 5th, 2018 @ 2:54pm CST
When has Hasbro cared about scale to begin with? I'll tell you: only when it comes to playability and how well-known the characters are, never when it comes to overall size in fictional portrayals (which is pretty screwy as it is with Combiners and Citybots).
Volcanicus does look pretty decent, but the crotch plate isn't all the way down... again!
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 5th, 2018 @ 2:54pm CST
Rated X wrote:I still dont get why this guy wasnt titan class size and predaking normal size. The scale ruins both sets.
When has Hasbro cared about scale to begin with? I'll tell you: only when it comes to playability and how well-known the characters are, never when it comes to overall size in fictional portrayals (which is pretty screwy as it is with Combiners and Citybots).
Volcanicus does look pretty decent, but the crotch plate isn't all the way down... again!
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930041)
Posted by RiddlerJ on January 5th, 2018 @ 3:38pm CST
Posted by RiddlerJ on January 5th, 2018 @ 3:38pm CST
Too bad Slash can't get in there somewhere.
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930044)
Posted by Crosscheck on January 5th, 2018 @ 4:16pm CST
Posted by Crosscheck on January 5th, 2018 @ 4:16pm CST
Putting the extra fists in the torso really helps close up the gaps. I really like this combiner. I can't wait for the other two arms so I can get him finished up. I am going to look Slash over more to try to get her a way to attach to Grimlock. This might be the best combiner in terms of color combinations ever (short of Devastator).
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930048)
Posted by Rated X on January 5th, 2018 @ 4:32pm CST
That is true. But for the better part of the Generations lines, havent the molds been all about replicatiing cartoon accuracy? (Particularly post thrilling 30s figures) The only reason Predaking was bigger was because he was borrowed from another line. Just because the toy scale was a joke in the 80s doesnt mean it has to be one today. They fixing everything else so why not the scale too. For most figures they are getting it right except when they try to go super kiddie like they did with devy which I skipped. If Predaking is huge ill skip him too. Hercules and Feral Rex will do fine. Lost Exo Realm are my real Dinobots. Im trying to look at Volcanicus as another set of Dinobots similar to how we have Bruticus Maximus.
Posted by Rated X on January 5th, 2018 @ 4:32pm CST
steals_your_goats wrote:Rated X wrote:I still dont get why this guy wasnt titan class size and predaking normal size. The scale ruins both sets.
I agree about the dinobots but Predaking was the original biggest Combiner so I think it's fitting for him to try and reclaim that title.
That is true. But for the better part of the Generations lines, havent the molds been all about replicatiing cartoon accuracy? (Particularly post thrilling 30s figures) The only reason Predaking was bigger was because he was borrowed from another line. Just because the toy scale was a joke in the 80s doesnt mean it has to be one today. They fixing everything else so why not the scale too. For most figures they are getting it right except when they try to go super kiddie like they did with devy which I skipped. If Predaking is huge ill skip him too. Hercules and Feral Rex will do fine. Lost Exo Realm are my real Dinobots. Im trying to look at Volcanicus as another set of Dinobots similar to how we have Bruticus Maximus.
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930051)
Posted by jaws on January 5th, 2018 @ 4:40pm CST
Posted by jaws on January 5th, 2018 @ 4:40pm CST
Love Volcanicus with the 4 different limbs! Mine is currently using 2 Swoops as arms and 2 Slags as legs. 
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930052)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 5th, 2018 @ 4:41pm CST
Only when it comes to detailing, not size per se. Besides, G1 toy details are also present and some new ones to boot.
Nope, Predaking was initially designed by someone outside of Takara (I believe it's by a former Bandai employee), before they picked it up. Predaking has always been a Transformer, even in Japan.
Masterpiece post MP-9, as high-end collector line, is more for the scale fanatics (given some minor hiccups), the more gimmicky toys for kids (don't argue on that!) aren't that concerned. The bigger the size, the more fun, and if it falls in line with bigger characters like Metroplex, more power to them.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 5th, 2018 @ 4:41pm CST
Rated X wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:Rated X wrote:I still dont get why this guy wasnt titan class size and predaking normal size. The scale ruins both sets.
I agree about the dinobots but Predaking was the original biggest Combiner so I think it's fitting for him to try and reclaim that title.
That is true. But for the better part of the Generations lines, havent the molds been all about replicatiing cartoon accuracy? (Particularly post thrilling 30s figures)
Only when it comes to detailing, not size per se. Besides, G1 toy details are also present and some new ones to boot.
The only reason Predaking was bigger was because he was borrowed from another line.
Nope, Predaking was initially designed by someone outside of Takara (I believe it's by a former Bandai employee), before they picked it up. Predaking has always been a Transformer, even in Japan.
Just because the toy scale was a joke in the 80s doesnt mean it has to be one today.
Masterpiece post MP-9, as high-end collector line, is more for the scale fanatics (given some minor hiccups), the more gimmicky toys for kids (don't argue on that!) aren't that concerned. The bigger the size, the more fun, and if it falls in line with bigger characters like Metroplex, more power to them.
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930055)
Posted by firefox91 on January 5th, 2018 @ 4:54pm CST
Posted by firefox91 on January 5th, 2018 @ 4:54pm CST
It's not bad. When I saw the first image I remember thinking it was terrible This looks okay, better than some. But I dunno, the Dinobots never combined before. And while it makes sense for them to do so, I'm still not fully on board with it. However the bot and alt modes of them separately all appear to be great so I'm getting them all anyway. Just likely won't combine.
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930071)
Posted by King Kuuga on January 5th, 2018 @ 6:30pm CST
Because dinosaurs are an easier sell individually than beasts.
Posted by King Kuuga on January 5th, 2018 @ 6:30pm CST
Rated X wrote:I still dont get why this guy wasnt titan class size and predaking normal size. The scale ruins both sets.
Because dinosaurs are an easier sell individually than beasts.
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930079)
Posted by Albatross250 on January 5th, 2018 @ 8:13pm CST
Posted by Albatross250 on January 5th, 2018 @ 8:13pm CST
Is this the 
version of Volcanicus?
i seen the color have differences
correct me if i'm not sure
Source: Planet Iacon
version of Volcanicus? i seen the color have differences
correct me if i'm not sure
Source: Planet Iacon
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930080)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 5th, 2018 @ 8:15pm CST
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/inhand-image-of-transformers-power-of-the-primes-volcanicus/40441/
Posted by Sabrblade on January 5th, 2018 @ 8:15pm CST
Albatross250 wrote:Is this the
i seen the color have differences
correct me if i'm not sure
Source: Planet Iacon
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/inhand-image-of-transformers-power-of-the-primes-volcanicus/40441/
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930081)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 5th, 2018 @ 8:36pm CST
Could very well be, as TakaraTomy has confirmed that they'll release the Hasbro versions of PotP without changes, even keeping the US names and characters for the Pretenders. It's worth repeating over and over.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 5th, 2018 @ 8:36pm CST
Albatross250 wrote:Is this the
Could very well be, as TakaraTomy has confirmed that they'll release the Hasbro versions of PotP without changes, even keeping the US names and characters for the Pretenders. It's worth repeating over and over.
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930084)
Posted by Emerje on January 5th, 2018 @ 8:54pm CST
Posted by Emerje on January 5th, 2018 @ 8:54pm CST
All of Takara Tomy's Power of the Prime's releases will be the same as Hasbro's. That's not the same as saying all of Hasbro's PotP releases will be released as PotP by Takara Tomy, the possibility of complete combiners being released under Unite Warriors has yet to be ruled out by TT.
Emerje
Emerje
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930095)
Posted by sumowrestler on January 5th, 2018 @ 10:18pm CST
Posted by sumowrestler on January 5th, 2018 @ 10:18pm CST
This pose makes him look like he is flexing his arms. The head looks a bit small but maybe I'm too used to the G1 line. Does he have any weapons? The Dinobots all have energon swords of some nature and I would expect their combined form to have one as well.
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930098)
Posted by william-james88 on January 5th, 2018 @ 10:31pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on January 5th, 2018 @ 10:31pm CST
Anyways, the point is that image is Hasbro's Volcanicus, we do not know what Takara is doing yet.
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930099)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 5th, 2018 @ 10:34pm CST
He doesn't, though in Earth Wars he uses a sword based of FoC Grimlock's. Maybe one could find an oversized version somewhere?
As it currently stands though, none of the PotP new-mold Voyagers have combining weapons. Only Inferno does by virtue of being a retool of CW Hot Spot.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 5th, 2018 @ 10:34pm CST
sumowrestler wrote:This pose makes him look like he is flexing his arms. The head looks a bit small but maybe I'm too used to the G1 line. Does he have any weapons? The Dinobots all have energon swords of some nature and I would expect their combined form to have one as well.
He doesn't, though in Earth Wars he uses a sword based of FoC Grimlock's. Maybe one could find an oversized version somewhere?
As it currently stands though, none of the PotP new-mold Voyagers have combining weapons. Only Inferno does by virtue of being a retool of CW Hot Spot.
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930101)
Posted by Ultra Markus on January 5th, 2018 @ 10:40pm CST
Posted by Ultra Markus on January 5th, 2018 @ 10:40pm CST
at first im like Yay! we get all the dinobots and in there G1 likness plus a bonus extra dinobot for fun
and individually they look great couldn't have done a better job for the kind of toys they are but wait theres more, they combine! hooray! finally a dream come true we finally after all these years get a G1 dinobot combiner! but once we have the combiner in hand its like, meh! such a disappointment
im like is that it they coulnt have taken cues from some of the 3rd party guys, whatever
im still buying them though there still cool as dinobots!
and individually they look great couldn't have done a better job for the kind of toys they are but wait theres more, they combine! hooray! finally a dream come true we finally after all these years get a G1 dinobot combiner! but once we have the combiner in hand its like, meh! such a disappointment
im like is that it they coulnt have taken cues from some of the 3rd party guys, whatever
im still buying them though there still cool as dinobots!
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930152)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 6th, 2018 @ 10:30am CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 6th, 2018 @ 10:30am CST
Part 1 of 2 of my PotP packages arrived:
First up, a question: because I was trying to avoid spoiling the figures for myself and watched very very little of reviews, did we know that Jazz's package had the Elita-1 Combiner on the side of it, complete with Jazz as the left leg and Moonracer as the left arm?
And now some opinions:
The decoy armors are absolutely adorable and I am loving them. I actually prefer them to hold their guns/claws and stay as a smaller pretender class. I did not get any duplicates in my 3. I would need to Rate Metalhawk my favorite of the first 3.
The legends: All 3 are pretty sweet. I showed Slash to my mom in raptor mode and my mom actually said she looked cute. My mom does not give anything more than a "nice" when I get a new one, so that was high praise. and Slash is cute and fun and I love her (and then I watched Jurassic World last night). Beachcomber and Windcharger are each pretty good. I like Beach's alt mode, it is so much fun! Windcharger is a bit bland, but he was a favorite from the MTMTE flashbacks, so I like him. And he and Tailgate aren't sharing a mold in my shelf, which is nice.
Jazz is really cool. I think I love his alt mode the most, it is so sleek! I love zooming him around and checking out the race car lines. His robot mode is pretty cool too, and I like how much more effort went into him compared to CW limbs, I think they are starting to hit their combining stride perfectly now! And strangely enough, I love his arm mode. Leg mode is good, but Arm mode rocks for me!
the voyagers and the rest of the deluxes come next week sometime hopefully, so we can do some combining!
First up, a question: because I was trying to avoid spoiling the figures for myself and watched very very little of reviews, did we know that Jazz's package had the Elita-1 Combiner on the side of it, complete with Jazz as the left leg and Moonracer as the left arm?
And now some opinions:
The decoy armors are absolutely adorable and I am loving them. I actually prefer them to hold their guns/claws and stay as a smaller pretender class. I did not get any duplicates in my 3. I would need to Rate Metalhawk my favorite of the first 3.
The legends: All 3 are pretty sweet. I showed Slash to my mom in raptor mode and my mom actually said she looked cute. My mom does not give anything more than a "nice" when I get a new one, so that was high praise. and Slash is cute and fun and I love her (and then I watched Jurassic World last night). Beachcomber and Windcharger are each pretty good. I like Beach's alt mode, it is so much fun! Windcharger is a bit bland, but he was a favorite from the MTMTE flashbacks, so I like him. And he and Tailgate aren't sharing a mold in my shelf, which is nice.
Jazz is really cool. I think I love his alt mode the most, it is so sleek! I love zooming him around and checking out the race car lines. His robot mode is pretty cool too, and I like how much more effort went into him compared to CW limbs, I think they are starting to hit their combining stride perfectly now! And strangely enough, I love his arm mode. Leg mode is good, but Arm mode rocks for me!
the voyagers and the rest of the deluxes come next week sometime hopefully, so we can do some combining!
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930215)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 6th, 2018 @ 3:52pm CST
I certainly didn't, and I'm notorious for my eye for detail.
I just checked Dreadwind's side art and he's got Starscream on his. Even so, he still has Rippersnapper as one of his legs...
Ok, say Jazz is an integral part of the Elita-1 combiner. Who's the final member, after Moonracer and Novastar?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 6th, 2018 @ 3:52pm CST
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:First up, a question: because I was trying to avoid spoiling the figures for myself and watched very very little of reviews, did we know that Jazz's package had the Elita-1 Combiner on the side of it, complete with Jazz as the left leg and Moonracer as the left arm?
I certainly didn't, and I'm notorious for my eye for detail.
I just checked Dreadwind's side art and he's got Starscream on his. Even so, he still has Rippersnapper as one of his legs...Ok, say Jazz is an integral part of the Elita-1 combiner. Who's the final member, after Moonracer and Novastar?
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930240)
Posted by bodrock on January 6th, 2018 @ 8:28pm CST
Metalhawk is my fave of the 3 as well, D! But Skullgrin is a lot of fun....
Posted by bodrock on January 6th, 2018 @ 8:28pm CST
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Part 1 of 2 of my PotP packages arrived:
First up, a question: because I was trying to avoid spoiling the figures for myself and watched very very little of reviews, did we know that Jazz's package had the Elita-1 Combiner on the side of it, complete with Jazz as the left leg and Moonracer as the left arm?
And now some opinions:
The decoy armors are absolutely adorable and I am loving them. I actually prefer them to hold their guns/claws and stay as a smaller pretender class. I did not get any duplicates in my 3. I would need to Rate Metalhawk my favorite of the first 3.
The legends: All 3 are pretty sweet. I showed Slash to my mom in raptor mode and my mom actually said she looked cute. My mom does not give anything more than a "nice" when I get a new one, so that was high praise. and Slash is cute and fun and I love her (and then I watched Jurassic World last night). Beachcomber and Windcharger are each pretty good. I like Beach's alt mode, it is so much fun! Windcharger is a bit bland, but he was a favorite from the MTMTE flashbacks, so I like him. And he and Tailgate aren't sharing a mold in my shelf, which is nice.
Jazz is really cool. I think I love his alt mode the most, it is so sleek! I love zooming him around and checking out the race car lines. His robot mode is pretty cool too, and I like how much more effort went into him compared to CW limbs, I think they are starting to hit their combining stride perfectly now! And strangely enough, I love his arm mode. Leg mode is good, but Arm mode rocks for me!
the voyagers and the rest of the deluxes come next week sometime hopefully, so we can do some combining!
Metalhawk is my fave of the 3 as well, D! But Skullgrin is a lot of fun....
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930241)
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 6th, 2018 @ 8:52pm CST
It looks like a recolor of Jazz at this artwork. Maybe he'll be recolored/retooled into Turbomaster Boss. But he looks to dark. Could also be just because he's in the combiner's shadow.
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 6th, 2018 @ 8:52pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:First up, a question: because I was trying to avoid spoiling the figures for myself and watched very very little of reviews, did we know that Jazz's package had the Elita-1 Combiner on the side of it, complete with Jazz as the left leg and Moonracer as the left arm?
I certainly didn't, and I'm notorious for my eye for detail.
Ok, say Jazz is an integral part of the Elita-1 combiner. Who's the final member, after Moonracer and Novastar?
It looks like a recolor of Jazz at this artwork. Maybe he'll be recolored/retooled into Turbomaster Boss. But he looks to dark. Could also be just because he's in the combiner's shadow.
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930242)
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 6th, 2018 @ 8:57pm CST
Looks more like Sinnertwin to me.
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 6th, 2018 @ 8:57pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
I certainly didn't, and I'm notorious for my eye for detail.
Looks more like Sinnertwin to me.
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930273)
Posted by Zeedust on January 7th, 2018 @ 12:23am CST
Because Volcanicus is a new combiner and Predaking is a G1 guy?
Posted by Zeedust on January 7th, 2018 @ 12:23am CST
Rated X wrote:I still dont get why this guy wasnt titan class size and predaking normal size.
Because Volcanicus is a new combiner and Predaking is a G1 guy?
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930294)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 7th, 2018 @ 3:53am CST
Nah, think of what would sell better to kids and/or parents in individual packaging, who only want or only can afford 1 or 2 instead of a complete combiner. Dinos or beasts? Dinos, hands down. That is why they are a regular release and Predaking is a box set.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 7th, 2018 @ 3:53am CST
Zeedust wrote:Rated X wrote:I still dont get why this guy wasnt titan class size and predaking normal size.
Because Volcanicus is a new combiner and Predaking is a G1 guy?
Nah, think of what would sell better to kids and/or parents in individual packaging, who only want or only can afford 1 or 2 instead of a complete combiner. Dinos or beasts? Dinos, hands down. That is why they are a regular release and Predaking is a box set.
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930353)
Posted by Zeedust on January 7th, 2018 @ 3:46pm CST
Fair point, but any reason it can't be both?
Posted by Zeedust on January 7th, 2018 @ 3:46pm CST
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Zeedust wrote:Rated X wrote:I still dont get why this guy wasnt titan class size and predaking normal size.
Because Volcanicus is a new combiner and Predaking is a G1 guy?
Nah, think of what would sell better to kids and/or parents in individual packaging, who only want or only can afford 1 or 2 instead of a complete combiner. Dinos or beasts? Dinos, hands down. That is why they are a regular release and Predaking is a box set.
Fair point, but any reason it can't be both?
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930363)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 7th, 2018 @ 5:20pm CST
My best guess is technically yes, but logistically no. If they made both a regular release it would have to be the the 1 voyager/4 deluxe format, and Predaking would take up another 1 voyager and 4 deluxe slots. As we currently know, there are only about 8 deluxe slots left and about 3-6 voyager slots left. Plus, they would still need something to fit into the titan slot for this year. My guess is that doing Predaking as a titan was easier than finalizing a design for Scoponok or Omega Supreme. I'm also guessing that they have another combiner planned for waves 5-6, which would eat up many of the unused slots.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 7th, 2018 @ 5:20pm CST
Zeedust wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:Zeedust wrote:Rated X wrote:I still dont get why this guy wasnt titan class size and predaking normal size.
Because Volcanicus is a new combiner and Predaking is a G1 guy?
Nah, think of what would sell better to kids and/or parents in individual packaging, who only want or only can afford 1 or 2 instead of a complete combiner. Dinos or beasts? Dinos, hands down. That is why they are a regular release and Predaking is a box set.
Fair point, but any reason it can't be both?
My best guess is technically yes, but logistically no. If they made both a regular release it would have to be the the 1 voyager/4 deluxe format, and Predaking would take up another 1 voyager and 4 deluxe slots. As we currently know, there are only about 8 deluxe slots left and about 3-6 voyager slots left. Plus, they would still need something to fit into the titan slot for this year. My guess is that doing Predaking as a titan was easier than finalizing a design for Scoponok or Omega Supreme. I'm also guessing that they have another combiner planned for waves 5-6, which would eat up many of the unused slots.
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930423)
Posted by Hotconvoy on January 8th, 2018 @ 4:54am CST
Posted by Hotconvoy on January 8th, 2018 @ 4:54am CST
So I've been looking at the new Battletrap and trying to figure out a good weapon for him . Does anyone know if the G1's weapon will work? I'm just not sure of the post size.
. Does anyone know if the G1's weapon will work? I'm just not sure of the post size.
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930481)
Posted by Skritz on January 8th, 2018 @ 2:52pm CST
Well I know my kid self would have wanted both but that's my Beast Era bias showing. No, my theory for why he's a Titan Class is that Predaking is not a Scramble-city type combiner, like Devastator. Hence why these two are Titan-class set and not part of the Deluxe+Voyager lineups.
Posted by Skritz on January 8th, 2018 @ 2:52pm CST
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Zeedust wrote:Rated X wrote:I still dont get why this guy wasnt titan class size and predaking normal size.
Because Volcanicus is a new combiner and Predaking is a G1 guy?
Nah, think of what would sell better to kids and/or parents in individual packaging, who only want or only can afford 1 or 2 instead of a complete combiner. Dinos or beasts? Dinos, hands down. That is why they are a regular release and Predaking is a box set.
Well I know my kid self would have wanted both but that's my Beast Era bias showing. No, my theory for why he's a Titan Class is that Predaking is not a Scramble-city type combiner, like Devastator. Hence why these two are Titan-class set and not part of the Deluxe+Voyager lineups.
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930484)
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on January 8th, 2018 @ 2:54pm CST
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on January 8th, 2018 @ 2:54pm CST
Everybody checking their local Walmarts? I found Rodimus Prime at mine. They also had Optimus, but I didn't have the money for two leader class figures at the moment. I've seen reports of other Walmarts having the leader class figures as well.
Rodimus is lots of fun. Yes, he's got flaws, but he's fun. And, no surprise, I'm pretty easy on Hot Rod/Rodimus figures.
Rodimus is lots of fun. Yes, he's got flaws, but he's fun. And, no surprise, I'm pretty easy on Hot Rod/Rodimus figures.
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930485)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 8th, 2018 @ 3:03pm CST
Not to mention, the main selling point for the G1 Predacons was that all 5 members were the same size (meaning they'd be at the same price point), the bigger size allows more wiggle room for Razorclaw's proportions in all modes. Plus, the toys were already bigger than the standard Scramble City limbs (boxed instead of carded). True, the Dinobots were boxed too, but in current lines other Dinosaur (and other prehistoric animals) toys have been Deluxes for the most part.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 8th, 2018 @ 3:03pm CST
Skritz wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:Zeedust wrote:Rated X wrote:I still dont get why this guy wasnt titan class size and predaking normal size.
Because Volcanicus is a new combiner and Predaking is a G1 guy?
Nah, think of what would sell better to kids and/or parents in individual packaging, who only want or only can afford 1 or 2 instead of a complete combiner. Dinos or beasts? Dinos, hands down. That is why they are a regular release and Predaking is a box set.
Well I know my kid self would have wanted both but that's my Beast Era bias showing. No, my theory for why he's a Titan Class is that Predaking is not a Scramble-city type combiner, like Devastator. Hence why these two are Titan-class set and not part of the Deluxe+Voyager lineups.
Not to mention, the main selling point for the G1 Predacons was that all 5 members were the same size (meaning they'd be at the same price point), the bigger size allows more wiggle room for Razorclaw's proportions in all modes. Plus, the toys were already bigger than the standard Scramble City limbs (boxed instead of carded). True, the Dinobots were boxed too, but in current lines other Dinosaur (and other prehistoric animals) toys have been Deluxes for the most part.
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930491)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 8th, 2018 @ 3:22pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on January 8th, 2018 @ 3:22pm CST
It's evident that Hasbro wants the great big Titan class figures to be known, familiar, popular, iconic characters so as to appeal to the big spending collectors who have the dough to buy them.
Metroplex: The First Autobot Cityformer
Devastator: The First Combiner
Fortress Maximus: The Largest Transformers Toy of G1
Trypticon: The First Decepticon Cityformer
Predaking: The Largest Combiner Toy of G1
Even though his components are known characters, Volcanicus himself is an all new guy, a nobody, who hold little nostalgic value to the average consumer who's nostalgic towards G1 and wants to buy the new toys of the uber-giant characters from their childhood. Predaking has that appeal, Volcanicus doesn't.
Grimlock on his own does, but wasn't one of those uber-giants that the Titan class toys are reserved for. Hence, selling the Dinobots individually works out better for them since their appeal applies first and foremost to them on an individual level rather than on a combined level. People have even complained about how the combiner gimmick seems to have hindered the Dinobots from being done "quite right", claiming that they'd have looked better if not for the "new gimmick forced onto them".
Metroplex: The First Autobot Cityformer
Devastator: The First Combiner
Fortress Maximus: The Largest Transformers Toy of G1
Trypticon: The First Decepticon Cityformer
Predaking: The Largest Combiner Toy of G1
Even though his components are known characters, Volcanicus himself is an all new guy, a nobody, who hold little nostalgic value to the average consumer who's nostalgic towards G1 and wants to buy the new toys of the uber-giant characters from their childhood. Predaking has that appeal, Volcanicus doesn't.
Grimlock on his own does, but wasn't one of those uber-giants that the Titan class toys are reserved for. Hence, selling the Dinobots individually works out better for them since their appeal applies first and foremost to them on an individual level rather than on a combined level. People have even complained about how the combiner gimmick seems to have hindered the Dinobots from being done "quite right", claiming that they'd have looked better if not for the "new gimmick forced onto them".
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930493)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 8th, 2018 @ 3:26pm CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 8th, 2018 @ 3:26pm CST
I think at this point we're going in circles now, or sounding like a stuck record... stuck record.... stuck record. *slams*
I heard a similar thing, but it may be a while before they hit my area.
RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Everybody checking their local Walmarts? I found Rodimus Prime at mine. They also had Optimus, but I didn't have the money for two leader class figures at the moment. I've seen reports of other Walmarts having the leader class figures as well.
Rodimus is lots of fun. Yes, he's got flaws, but he's fun. And, no surprise, I'm pretty easy on Hot Rod/Rodimus figures.
I heard a similar thing, but it may be a while before they hit my area.
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930500)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 8th, 2018 @ 3:44pm CST
Who knows, but if this is an official combiner, we may find out when we get elita next wave, as the voyagers show the proper limbs, don't they? It may also be proof that we will get a wave 5, or wave 4 will be bigger than we thought.
But who knows
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 8th, 2018 @ 3:44pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:First up, a question: because I was trying to avoid spoiling the figures for myself and watched very very little of reviews, did we know that Jazz's package had the Elita-1 Combiner on the side of it, complete with Jazz as the left leg and Moonracer as the left arm?
I certainly didn't, and I'm notorious for my eye for detail.
Ok, say Jazz is an integral part of the Elita-1 combiner. Who's the final member, after Moonracer and Novastar?
Who knows, but if this is an official combiner, we may find out when we get elita next wave, as the voyagers show the proper limbs, don't they? It may also be proof that we will get a wave 5, or wave 4 will be bigger than we thought.
But who knows
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930503)
Posted by no-one on January 8th, 2018 @ 3:50pm CST
Posted by no-one on January 8th, 2018 @ 3:50pm CST
I'm betting we see a lot of recycled limb bots on these rando combiners.D-Maximus_Prime wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:First up, a question: because I was trying to avoid spoiling the figures for myself and watched very very little of reviews, did we know that Jazz's package had the Elita-1 Combiner on the side of it, complete with Jazz as the left leg and Moonracer as the left arm?
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I certainly didn't, and I'm notorious for my eye for detail.
Ok, say Jazz is an integral part of the Elita-1 combiner. Who's the final member, after Moonracer and Novastar?
Who knows, but if this is an official combiner, we may find out when we get elita next wave, as the voyagers show the proper limbs, don't they? It may also be proof that we will get a wave 5, or wave 4 will be bigger than we thought.
But who knows
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930506)
Posted by Hotconvoy on January 8th, 2018 @ 5:05pm CST
I just got mine at target with no breakage fyi, but other then that you took the words right out of my mouth!
Posted by Hotconvoy on January 8th, 2018 @ 5:05pm CST
RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Everybody checking their local Walmarts? I found Rodimus Prime at mine. They also had Optimus, but I didn't have the money for two leader class figures at the moment. I've seen reports of other Walmarts having the leader class figures as well.
Rodimus is lots of fun. Yes, he's got flaws, but he's fun. And, no surprise, I'm pretty easy on Hot Rod/Rodimus figures.
I just got mine at target with no breakage fyi, but other then that you took the words right out of my mouth!
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930510)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 8th, 2018 @ 5:27pm CST
You spin me right round baby right round, like a record baby right round round round...
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 8th, 2018 @ 5:27pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I think at this point we're going in circles now, or sounding like a stuck record... stuck record.... stuck record. *slams*
You spin me right round baby right round, like a record baby right round round round...
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930531)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on January 8th, 2018 @ 10:00pm CST
I want your LOOOOOOOVVVVVVVEEEEEEE!!!!!
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on January 8th, 2018 @ 10:00pm CST
TF-fan kev777 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I think at this point we're going in circles now, or sounding like a stuck record... stuck record.... stuck record. *slams*
You spin me right round baby right round, like a record baby right round round round...
I want your LOOOOOOOVVVVVVVEEEEEEE!!!!!
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930535)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 8th, 2018 @ 10:34pm CST
R.I.P. Pete Burns
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 8th, 2018 @ 10:34pm CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I think at this point we're going in circles now, or sounding like a stuck record... stuck record.... stuck record. *slams*
You spin me right round baby right round, like a record baby right round round round...
I want your LOOOOOOOVVVVVVVEEEEEEE!!!!!
R.I.P. Pete Burns
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930541)
Posted by Bounti76 on January 9th, 2018 @ 12:04am CST
Maybe it's just me? but the Elita One combiner looks like it's using two Jazzes as legs. Her left leg is obviously Jazz, as you can see the stripes, wheels and headlights. Her right leg is a little too straight sided to be a beast, plus, it's the same color and roughly the same shape as Jazz's leg mode, and you can see the headlights of the car in blue at the top of the knee.
Slightly off-topic question: does anyone know why the combiners (save Volcanicus) in POTP don't have their own names?
Posted by Bounti76 on January 9th, 2018 @ 12:04am CST
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:First up, a question: because I was trying to avoid spoiling the figures for myself and watched very very little of reviews, did we know that Jazz's package had the Elita-1 Combiner on the side of it, complete with Jazz as the left leg and Moonracer as the left arm?
I certainly didn't, and I'm notorious for my eye for detail.
Ok, say Jazz is an integral part of the Elita-1 combiner. Who's the final member, after Moonracer and Novastar?
Who knows, but if this is an official combiner, we may find out when we get elita next wave, as the voyagers show the proper limbs, don't they? It may also be proof that we will get a wave 5, or wave 4 will be bigger than we thought.
But who knows
Maybe it's just me? but the Elita One combiner looks like it's using two Jazzes as legs. Her left leg is obviously Jazz, as you can see the stripes, wheels and headlights. Her right leg is a little too straight sided to be a beast, plus, it's the same color and roughly the same shape as Jazz's leg mode, and you can see the headlights of the car in blue at the top of the knee.
Slightly off-topic question: does anyone know why the combiners (save Volcanicus) in POTP don't have their own names?
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930549)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 9th, 2018 @ 1:09am CST
A bit simplified, but yeah, it actually looks like a second use of the Jazz mold! We won't know who it is yet until the 5th Wave (Wave 4 is Novastar plus repacks), or at the very least until Elita-1 is released however.
Don't forget Abominus and Predaking!
Powering up seems to be the central theme in this line, either via the Prime Masters, the Enigma of Combination, the Matrix of Leadership or a combination thereof. So for the most part, combined forms are treated as power-ups for whoever forms the torso (Starscream especially has experience with that, go read Deviations), note how the standard and combiner heads are similar in design (except Inferno, being a retool of Hot Spot and all). Volcanicus, Abominus and Predaking are treated as special cases as the ones that form them share a common theme (Dinosaurs, Monsters, Wild Animals), and thus could be considered...
Best Match
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 9th, 2018 @ 1:09am CST
Bounti76 wrote:Maybe it's just me? but the Elita One combiner looks like it's using two Jazzes as legs. Her left leg is obviously Jazz, as you can see the stripes, wheels and headlights. Her right leg is a little too straight sided to be a beast, plus, it's the same color and roughly the same shape as Jazz's leg mode, and you can see the headlights of the car in blue at the top of the knee.
A bit simplified, but yeah, it actually looks like a second use of the Jazz mold! We won't know who it is yet until the 5th Wave (Wave 4 is Novastar plus repacks), or at the very least until Elita-1 is released however.
Slightly off-topic question: does anyone know why the combiners (save Volcanicus) in POTP don't have their own names?
Don't forget Abominus and Predaking!
Powering up seems to be the central theme in this line, either via the Prime Masters, the Enigma of Combination, the Matrix of Leadership or a combination thereof. So for the most part, combined forms are treated as power-ups for whoever forms the torso (Starscream especially has experience with that, go read Deviations), note how the standard and combiner heads are similar in design (except Inferno, being a retool of Hot Spot and all). Volcanicus, Abominus and Predaking are treated as special cases as the ones that form them share a common theme (Dinosaurs, Monsters, Wild Animals), and thus could be considered...
Best Match
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930550)
Posted by Bounti76 on January 9th, 2018 @ 1:18am CST
Very good points....and somehow I forgot about Abominus.....which is nuts, because he's the only G1 combiner I regularly display. And though I know he's heavily rumored, I didn't think about Predaking, because he hasn't been officially announced.
Posted by Bounti76 on January 9th, 2018 @ 1:18am CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Bounti76 wrote:Maybe it's just me? but the Elita One combiner looks like it's using two Jazzes as legs. Her left leg is obviously Jazz, as you can see the stripes, wheels and headlights. Her right leg is a little too straight sided to be a beast, plus, it's the same color and roughly the same shape as Jazz's leg mode, and you can see the headlights of the car in blue at the top of the knee.
A bit simplified, but yeah, it actually looks like a second use of the Jazz mold! We won't know who it is yet until the 5th Wave (Wave 4 is Novastar plus repacks), or at the very least until Elita-1 is released however.Slightly off-topic question: does anyone know why the combiners (save Volcanicus) in POTP don't have their own names?
Don't forget Abominus and Predaking!
Powering up seems to be the central theme in this line, either via the Prime Masters, the Enigma of Combination, the Matrix of Leadership or a combination thereof. So for the most part, combined forms are treated as power-ups for whoever forms the torso (Starscream especially has experience with that, go read Deviations), note how the standard and combiner heads are similar in design (except Inferno, being a retool of Hot Spot and all). Volcanicus, Abominus and Predaking are treated as special cases as the ones that form them share a common theme (Dinosaurs, Monsters, Wild Animals), and thus could be considered...
Very good points....and somehow I forgot about Abominus.....which is nuts, because he's the only G1 combiner I regularly display. And though I know he's heavily rumored, I didn't think about Predaking, because he hasn't been officially announced.
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930551)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 9th, 2018 @ 1:31am CST
His grey model has been shown off at NYCC 2017... Well, his back pack aka Divebomb's wings:
That's the Trypticon Leg of this Titan
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 9th, 2018 @ 1:31am CST
Bounti76 wrote:And though I know he's heavily rumored, I didn't think about Predaking, because he hasn't been officially announced.
His grey model has been shown off at NYCC 2017... Well, his back pack aka Divebomb's wings:
That's the Trypticon Leg of this Titan
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930573)
Posted by Sigma Magnus on January 9th, 2018 @ 6:00am CST
Posted by Sigma Magnus on January 9th, 2018 @ 6:00am CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930614)
Posted by bodrock on January 9th, 2018 @ 12:48pm CST
Posted by bodrock on January 9th, 2018 @ 12:48pm CST
My Walmart finally got some PotP! But only Legends and Deluxes so far.....Good luck on the Leader and Prime Master hunts everyone!
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930624)
Posted by Rysquad on January 9th, 2018 @ 1:25pm CST
Posted by Rysquad on January 9th, 2018 @ 1:25pm CST
Totally said I wasn't going to buy Windcharger.
But totally bought Windcharger.
Yeah - the Legends size is super appealing because of the Titan Master/Prime Master play pattern for me.
So totally against buying Skrapnel. I'd rather get the older version with Reflector.
Been slow picking up other PoTP figures as TR figures are getting significant discounts.
But totally bought Windcharger.
Yeah - the Legends size is super appealing because of the Titan Master/Prime Master play pattern for me.
So totally against buying Skrapnel. I'd rather get the older version with Reflector.
Been slow picking up other PoTP figures as TR figures are getting significant discounts.
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930626)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 9th, 2018 @ 1:30pm CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 9th, 2018 @ 1:30pm CST
My local Walmart only has Legends, still. A single Fangry, Kup and a few Octones are keeping the rest from coming in. Shame.
They did get a load of TR Legends in, mainly Bumblebee, Brawn and Chase/Roadburn, plus RiD Warriors with Twinferno and Bludgeon! Look for endcaps!
They did get a load of TR Legends in, mainly Bumblebee, Brawn and Chase/Roadburn, plus RiD Warriors with Twinferno and Bludgeon! Look for endcaps!
Re: In-Hand Image of Transformers Power of the Primes Volcanicus (1930627)
Posted by no-one on January 9th, 2018 @ 1:34pm CST
Posted by no-one on January 9th, 2018 @ 1:34pm CST
A dime holding up a dollar, I know that feel. Our area still hasn't started clearancing the older figures yet.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:My local Walmart only has Legends, still. A single Fangry, Kup and a few Octones are keeping the rest from coming in. Shame.
They did get a load of TR Legends in, mainly Bumblebee, Brawn and Chase/Roadburn, plus RiD Warriors with Twinferno and Bludgeon! Look for endcaps!
