2016 Transformers Generations Platinum Rodimus Prime and Galvatron Set Revealed

Oh good, two toys people hate in a convenient, easy-to-not-want box.

Nemesis Maximo wrote:Oh good, two toys people hate in a convenient, easy-to-not-want box.

But I want the box

Really? Titanium Rodimus? Universe Galvatron isn't so bad, but TITANIUM RODIMUS?! I know, not much else to choose from, but still...

Sigma Magnus wrote:Really? Titanium Rodimus? Universe Galvatron isn't so bad, but TITANIUM RODIMUS?! I know, not much else to choose from, but still...

What if they molded him out of palstic instead?

william-james88 wrote:

Sigma Magnus wrote:Really? Titanium Rodimus? Universe Galvatron isn't so bad, but TITANIUM RODIMUS?! I know, not much else to choose from, but still...

What if they molded him out of palstic instead?

Still not that good of a toy...

Id like to see that titanium mold in plastic. The titanium figs are cool but often lop sided and terribly unbalanced.

Titanium Rodimus was one of the better molds to come out of that line. Yes, he's sort of hollow chested in robot mode, but he has a decent transformation, and holds together well. Which is more than I can say for other titanium molds.

I think it was the only Rodimus option they had, but its not really as bad as they say. That Galvatron, had more issues than Roddy ever had.

It's a match made in mediocre mold heaven!

At first I had no idea what Hot Rod I was looking at; I was all like "wait, is that just an extremely good deco of the Classics version? I heard it's not a great toy but hey, this could work - actually, is it a new mold? Are we getting this later in the year and I don't even have to pay a ton for it like Brainstorm?! Damn, this is--"
And then I cried for a good 20 minutes when I found out it was Titanium Rodimus. GG/10 boxset everyone would want; a toy from one of the more infamously bad lines and an infamously bad toy from a good toyline. What even is happening who made this decision

Well I like both those toys, and I like those decos. If I saw this set on clearance, I'd be very tempted to pick it up.

Also, free Matrix included with the set!

I'm gonna skip this set and probably get MP-28 with TR voyager Galvatron. They scale better too.

Kurona wrote:At first I had no idea what Hot Rod I was looking at; I was all like "wait, is that just an extremely good deco of the Classics version? I heard it's not a great toy but hey, this could work - actually, is it a new mold? Are we getting this later in the year and I don't even have to pay a ton for it like Brainstorm?! Damn, this is--"
And then I cried for a good 20 minutes when I found out it was Titanium Rodimus. GG/10 boxset everyone would want; a toy from one of the more infamously bad lines and an infamously bad toy from a good toyline. What even is happening who made this decision

It's the anniversary of the 1986 Movie, and Hasbro probably just did what they could with available molds. There really isn't another official toy outside of G1, Titanium, and Masterpiece. I do like someone else's suggestion that they should just have released the G1 molds as an Encore style in movie accurate colors...

Agamemnon wrote:I do like someone else's suggestion that they should just have released the G1 molds as an Encore style in movie accurate colors...

That's the best idea there is!

Their only other option would be the Energon versions for both (with the smaller Energon mould used for Galvatron). And those have their own problems.

That said ... I kinda wish they did use the smaller Energon Galvatron mould redecoed into actually good colours. It's not perfect by any means, but I think it's work better than the tank version.

But both of these moulds are okay. Mediocre is just the right word.

Titanium Rodimus looks better painted here but it's still a lousy toy (the only Titanium figure I bought)

Does anyone know the approximate price-point of this Autobot Heroes set yet?

SillySpringer wrote:Does anyone know the approximate price-point of this Autobot Heroes set yet?

$175-200. Somewhere around there

Have they changed any of the colours on that galvatron?

I don't hate that mold as much as some but it does sting to think what it could of been like if he wasn't moved down a size class.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:Does anyone know the approximate price-point of this Autobot Heroes set yet?

$175-200. Somewhere around there

WOW. That is a lot. Holy crap. I might not be able to get it until it goes on sale then.

SillySpringer wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:Does anyone know the approximate price-point of this Autobot Heroes set yet?

$175-200. Somewhere around there

WOW. That is a lot. Holy crap. I might not be able to get it until it goes on sale then.

They are normally $115 combined to begin with, so platinum prices would push it up that far

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:Does anyone know the approximate price-point of this Autobot Heroes set yet?

$175-200. Somewhere around there

WOW. That is a lot. Holy crap. I might not be able to get it until it goes on sale then.

They are normally $115 combined to begin with, so platinum prices would push it up that far

Usually they go on sale at the end of the year, but doesn't that mean I wouldn't be able to get it until the end of 2017? Man. That sucks.

itscramtastic wrote:Also, free Matrix included with the set!

For the price this thing wil go for, I would not call anything it comes with free

SillySpringer wrote:I'm gonna skip this set and probably get MP-28 with TR voyager Galvatron. They scale better too.

Thats what I did when I first heard of this set.

Agamemnon wrote: I do like someone else's suggestion that they should just have released the G1 molds as an Encore style in movie accurate colors...

I have no clue why Takara wont do more encores or rereleases. Youwould think it's easy money for either company.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:That said ... I kinda wish they did use the smaller Energon Galvatron mould redecoed into actually good colours.

You know what's interesting, if they did that would be the first time Hasbro ever releases that smaller mold in Galvatron colours.

william-james88 wrote:

itscramtastic wrote:Also, free Matrix included with the set!

For the price this thing wil go for, I would not call anything it comes with free

Or, the Matrix and box price is $150, and the other stuff fills in the rest of whatever price it ends up being. Doesn't MP10 go for $150+ now? Methinks it's the Matrix

itscramtastic wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

itscramtastic wrote:Also, free Matrix included with the set!

For the price this thing wil go for, I would not call anything it comes with free

Or, the Matrix and box price is $150, and the other stuff fills in the rest of whatever price it ends up being. Doesn't MP10 go for $150+ now? Methinks it's the Matrix

No joke, I know Shajaki once considered the reissue just so he could get the key to vector sigma. 150$ was for the key adn the rest was extras

william-james88 wrote:

itscramtastic wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

itscramtastic wrote:Also, free Matrix included with the set!

For the price this thing wil go for, I would not call anything it comes with free

Or, the Matrix and box price is $150, and the other stuff fills in the rest of whatever price it ends up being. Doesn't MP10 go for $150+ now? Methinks it's the Matrix

No joke, I know Shajaki once considered the reissue just so he could get the key to vector sigma. 150$ was for the key adn the rest was extras

I bought that reissue as a present for my nephew and kept the Vector Sigma!! I had to open the shipping box anyway to make sure the box was ok

Also, just realized I was confusing the non-existent as of yet price for the Rodimus/Galvatron set with the higher non-existent as of yet price for the Autobot Heroes set. Derp.

So all we need is a Platinum set with Wheelie and the Sharkticons and that'll be everybody.

RiddlerJ wrote:So all we need is a Platinum set with Wheelie and the Sharkticons and that'll be everybody.

Haha yeah but they'd probably not use TR Wheelie, which means I would probably not get it.

That rodimus really isnt a bad figure, was one of the best in the line & now that hes made of plastic that'll help alot. Galvatron on the other hand is terrible unless all you want to do it look at him. Id pick this set up just for rodimus but i already know its going to be hella over priced like the rest so ill be passing.

I am surprised no one likes the Titanium mold. Its one of the few I thoyggt were well balanced and transformed well

Doesnt mean I am getting this set, mind you. I wonder what the fandom would have done if they used his Energon Rodimus Major figure?

Megatron Wolf wrote:That rodimus really isnt a bad figure, was one of the best in the line & now that hes made of plastic that'll help alot. Galvatron on the other hand is terrible unless all you want to do it look at him. Id pick this set up just for rodimus but i already know its going to be hella over priced like the rest so ill be passing.

Same here. Around the end to the beginning of a year however is a good time to get Platinum sets though, since most retailers are trying to get rid of them, and they usually go on a big sale. The less people buy them, the more they go on sale. I wish I could've afforded that YotG Soundwave early this year since he went on sale on ToysRUs for only 100 USD.

RiddlerJ wrote:So all we need is a Platinum set with Wheelie and the Sharkticons and that'll be everybody.

Platinum Unicron. Come on, you know it needs to happen.

Megatron Wolf wrote: now that hes made of plastic that'll help alot

That was never said by hasbro. This is probably just a reissue of the same toy with a different paint job.

william-james88 wrote:

Megatron Wolf wrote: now that hes made of plastic that'll help alot

That was never said by hasbro. This is probably just a reissue of the same toy with a different paint job.

Never know with Hasbro though. I'd not be surprised if they cut corners.

Flashwave wrote:I am surprised no one likes the Titanium mold. Its one of the few I thoyggt were well balanced and transformed well

Doesnt mean I am getting this set, mind you. I wonder what the fandom would have done if they used his Energon Rodimus Major figure?

I think Titanium Rodimus is just okay. It was great for the Titanium line, but that means, like all Titanium figures, it's a mixed bag. The overall look is decent enough, but the proportions leave a lot to be desired and you still have that weird gap in the middle.

Energon Rodimus is far worse, though. Especially divorced from the rest of the Energon line. His alt. mode could be considered better from a certain point of view, but the robot mode's proportions and articulation are just murdered by it's gimmick and wind up worse than Titanium Rodimus' IMO. I don't think anyone would have been happy with Hasbro using the Energon mould.

I actually have Titanium Rodimus, but he's been put into a box since he's been replaced by Fansproject's Protector. I'm inspired to take both him and Superlink Galvatron out just to mess around with.

Also, I think the original Titanium paintjob is so much better than what we have here, and that goes for Hot Rod's and Wreck Gar's "platinum" paintjobs too. It's ironic, but their releases actually look like cheaper versions of their original releases more than anything close to premiums.

I kinda want that Rodimus, sorta, I think? Only because it's the closest thing to a decently scaled official Classics Rodimus Prime we have right now.

Galvatron.... meh. Already have the original use, and I actually plan on getting rid of that once the Titans Return Voyager lands, so to get this guy would be a serious disservice.

I will say, dat packaging tho!

william-james88 wrote:

Megatron Wolf wrote: now that hes made of plastic that'll help alot

That was never said by hasbro. This is probably just a reissue of the same toy with a different paint job.

They did give Cyclonus a new weapon. And a new left hand with a port in it that the original version lacked. And gave the one Sweep a new head (that's totally not the BotCon Devcon, I swear!). In saying that, if this guy actually retains the diecast, I'll be surprised.

Mindmaster wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Megatron Wolf wrote: now that hes made of plastic that'll help alot

That was never said by hasbro. This is probably just a reissue of the same toy with a different paint job.

They did give Cyclonus a new weapon. And a new left hand with a port in it that the original version lacked. And gave the one Sweep a new head (that's totally not the BotCon Devcon, I swear!). In saying that, if this guy actually retains the diecast, I'll be surprised.

2 things though

1. Diecast isnt expensive in the least, look at hotwheels cars. And they kept the diecast for all the other platinum sets.
2. The Cyclonus weapon isnt new. It's generations Kup's rifle.

All of your other points stand though.

I really think they retained the diecast. Look at the red in the shoulders and wist (plastic) compared to the chest and legs (diecast).

I mean it's entirely possible they just happened to cast those diecast parts in metallic red plastic or used metallic red paint just on them. But I think it's more likely that they remained diecast.

SillySpringer wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Megatron Wolf wrote: now that hes made of plastic that'll help alot

That was never said by hasbro. This is probably just a reissue of the same toy with a different paint job.

Never know with Hasbro though. I'd not be surprised if they cut corners.

You may not know this, but the materials the mold is made of determine whether it can be used with plastic and/or metal, due to melting points. Die-cast metal molds (like those for the Titanium Series) can be used to cast plastic pieces, but I don't know how that will work out for Roddy here, joint-wise.

william-james88 wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Megatron Wolf wrote: now that hes made of plastic that'll help alot

That was never said by hasbro. This is probably just a reissue of the same toy with a different paint job.

They did give Cyclonus a new weapon. And a new left hand with a port in it that the original version lacked. And gave the one Sweep a new head (that's totally not the BotCon Devcon, I swear!). In saying that, if this guy actually retains the diecast, I'll be surprised.

2 things though

1. Diecast isnt expensive in the least, look at hotwheels cars. And they kept the diecast for all the other platinum sets.
2. The Cyclonus weapon isnt new. It's generations Kup's rifle.

All of your other points stand though.

What I'm saying is that it's the diecast that was the big problem with Rodimus; from what I know, the diecast made him unstable and floppy.

Probably should've said "new to the mold"; I know it's Kup's rifle, I just wrote it in a way that was totes dumb. Error on my part!

man, why cant they do a nice new mold for this seriously important character?? I mean, come on. MP's don't count and it's been ten years since there's been a g1-ish Hot Rod. jeez.

edit: I like how he's all plastic now. it may be a little better now...

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Megatron Wolf wrote: now that hes made of plastic that'll help alot

That was never said by hasbro. This is probably just a reissue of the same toy with a different paint job.

Never know with Hasbro though. I'd not be surprised if they cut corners.

You may not know this, but the materials the mold is made of determine whether it can be used with plastic and/or metal, due to melting points. Die-cast metal molds (like those for the Titanium Series) can be used to cast plastic pieces, but I don't know how that will work out for Roddy here, joint-wise.

Would it take more money to ditch the diecast molds and to remake plastic molds, or to just keep the diecast in?

Mindmaster wrote:
What I'm saying is that it's the diecast that was the big problem with Rodimus; from what I know, the diecast made him unstable and floppy.

Actually, Rodimus was one of the more stable ones, and his joints were not loose. At least not on mine. His hips were pretty tight. I think you are confusing him with G.I. Joe Megatron, or WWI Optimus. They were loose.

Rodimus surprisingly did not suffer from most of the issues that plagued the rest of the line.

Things like Diaperwave, G.I Joe Megs. WWI Jetfire, and Prime those had loose joint issues and design issues, and very bad use of diecast.

Rodimus was quite the opposite in that regard. His major flaw was the hollow chest. With his narrow waist coming in second. Beyond that he was perfectly serviceable.

Im sorry, can someone please tell me what part of THE TRANSFORMERS THE MOVIE 1986 where Galvatron is a freakin TANK? WTF? More PC nonsense from Hasbro! Thanks for ruining my childhood again with GARBAGE to honor by far one of the most beloved movies of my generation! 30th Anniversary and you cant get anything right about the movie! The other figures being released look like CRAP too! And still no plans for a 30th anniversary blu ray of the movie? WTF is that about too ? The foreign blue ray is awesome but still to not honor this movie???? REALLY? More than likely the idiots at Hasbro never watched this movie....no G1 releases etc and this is what we have to look forward to? I think ill pass!

9adam83 wrote:Im sorry, can someone please tell me what part of THE TRANSFORMERS THE MOVIE 1986 where Galvatron is a freakin TANK? WTF? More PC nonsense from Hasbro! Thanks for ruining my childhood again with GARBAGE to honor by far one of the most beloved movies of my generation! 30th Anniversary and you cant get anything right about the movie! The other figures being released look like CRAP too! And still no plans for a 30th anniversary blu ray of the movie? WTF is that about too ? The foreign blue ray is awesome but still to not honor this movie???? REALLY? More than likely the idiots at Hasbro never watched this movie....no G1 releases etc and this is what we have to look forward to? I think ill pass!

Galvatron being a tank in the set is an unfortunate consequence of decisions made back in 2007. The Universe 2008 line (that the figure is from) was mostly about realistic vehicles, and Galvatron was no exception. That was bad decision #1.
Bad decision #2 was to downsize the toy, from the intended Voyager Class to Deluxe Class. The original plan was to make him a Triple Changer, from Robot, to Tank to Cannon Platform, but the downsizing forced the last one to be excised, with only a few parts remaining (like the "feet" in the forward treads).

Finally bad decision #3 was to only use pre-existing molds for the Platinum Line. Then again, using the current TR Galvatron will have people complaining "Where in the Movie is Galvatron a Headmaster!". Hasbro just can't win...

Diecast V.S Plastic, who will win?

I picked up the Universe Galvatron. It really should have been a voyager size or even Leader. As a deluxe, the design was brilliant, but so fiddly at such a small size that it was like the Rubik's Cube of deluxes....

9adam83 wrote:Im sorry, can someone please tell me what part of THE TRANSFORMERS THE MOVIE 1986 where Galvatron is a freakin TANK?

In fairness, this has been the entire classics/generation line has been like this from the start. Optimus, Megatron, Perceptor, Wreck-Gar, Kup, Blurr, Scourge ... all of these characters were redone with a new alt. mode. G1 accuracy has been the exception, not the norm.

Glass half full: they chose the G1 accurate Rodimus over the only other choice: the Energon version.

edit: I've broken out my old Energon and Titanium Rodimii. Man oh man, I forgot some of the headaches with this guy. I remembered the huge gap in the middle, but forgot his spoiler is actually quite far away form his back in robot mode. I also forgot how terrible the ratchets were on this. There's stick straight and awkward with nothing in between! And, while the arms are the right length, the elbow is right at the shoulder.

I still think E.Rodimus would have been worse, though. At least you can forget all of T.Roddy's issues when you have him standing still in your collection. E.Roddy is just a mass of awkwardness bundled in a terrible gimmick. And he also has his elbows at his shoulders (I guess it was that kinda decade for Rodimus).

Also, as nice as the art is, I would have appreciated it if they would have used the interior toy's likeness. Although it would still have ended up being recycled.

I'd like to see them reissue a few of the titanium figures but only if they were re done in plastic. They could have done the smaller energon galvatron in the set, he may be a jet but he looks a lot better.