#Botcon2016 Transformers Collectors' Club:G2 Megatron and Masterpiece Ratbat

Dat Ratbat

It's neat, but I have no desire for either of these two I'm afraid.

ARG!!! I was all excited about G2 Megatron and they just had to ruin him by making him #$@! @$%^ @$#% ^&&% TRANSLUCENT!! Why would they do that!? That crossover was one of my favorite comics from the G2 era and that Marvel Ratbat looked so great so why make Megatron *(#@ %#(@ translucent? Man, what a downer, I was completely sold on that set just for Megatron and Ratbat alone, but now I need to seriously rethink this. I get their reasoning, but it's dumb, especially since only the green parts are translucent. Nothing I hate more than poorly done translucent figures, it needs to be all or nothing or it looks stupid if you want us to believe it represents an entirely see-through character (or in this case, image). As far as I'm concerned the only place for translucent plastic is lights and windows, nowhere else.

Emerje

Couldn't they pick better deluxe figure to be g2 megaton repaint that megaton figure never like ratbat is nice like how his wings are more poseable not stiff

How would these be available to the public? I'd be willing to join a group in order to get them. But what and how much and deadlines and etc?

What does Ratbat have to do with Cobra?

This slagging sucks, they go and slagging make a slagging new slagging G2 slagging Megatron figure and they slagging make him slagging translucent! And to slagging add slagging insult to slagging injury they slagging make him a slagging collectors' slagging club exclusive! This is complete slagging slag, I will just not slagging tolerate this slag! I slagging agree with you slagging wholeheartedly slagging Emerje. This is complete slagging slag. Not even slagging that but he also slagging looks like a slagging legends slagging class! How can a slagging bad@$$ slagging G2 slagging Megatron bring his slagging enemies to slagging fear when they slagging hear his slagging name when he's slagging tiny and not slagging big enough to slagging do any slagging good in slagging battle!

You must have a lot of spare time on your hands.

dragons wrote:Couldn't they pick better deluxe figure to be g2 megaton repaint that megaton figure never like ratbat is nice like how his wings are more poseable not stiff

That's not a Deluxe.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

The inevitable has happened, Counterpunch has taken over completely... But why the Wheeljack mold? Don't tell me the Dead End mold is starting to wear out (both its welcome and its use)

At first I was like...



But then I was like...



...Pardon the memes.

As for the Wheeljack mold? I think it might just be that the Dead End/Streetwise mold has seen nearly twice as much use, so it's kinda the Breakdown/Wheeljack mold's "turn".

Emerje wrote:As far as I'm concerned the only place for translucent plastic is lights and windows, nowhere else.

What about eyes? "Energy" weapons and/or projectiles?

The slagging Dead slagging End mold is the slagging best they can't slagging be slagging getting rid of the slagging mold!

Okay, it does look like they were trying to mimic the comic coloring for Ratbat, but the blue is way too pale. It's supposed to be a dark grayisn-blue, not slagging baby blue! FAIL.

[BW] Rainmaker wrote:SLAG

Dude. A chill pill. Take one. Take ten.

Madre de Dios.

Nemesis Maximo wrote:

[BW] Rainmaker wrote:SLAG

Dude. A chill pill. Take one. Take ten.

Madre de Dios.

Slagging slagging slaggers slagging telling me what to slagging do on a slagging monday slagging evening who do you slagging think you slagging are slagger.

But...the slagging G2 megs...

Now that I've had a moment to calm down...

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Anyone know who the little guy is supposed to represent?

Girl, apparently it's supposed to be Quickslinger. I actually thought it was Storm Cloud at first. TFWiki also says they're calling the medic Lifeline.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

We should have expected that one But why use Scamper for Scorponok?

Good question, can't say I'm a big fan of that choice. He sure does grow a lot later on. The Energon Scorponok mold would have been the best choice, but probably too big for this set considering how many large figures are already in it. If they only did this figure because of the head sculpt then I'd rather they went for BotCon 2014 Canonball instead

Zeedust wrote:As for the Wheeljack mold? I think it might just be that the Dead End/Streetwise mold has seen nearly twice as much use, so it's kinda the Breakdown/Wheeljack mold's "turn".

I think it's really just a matter of the chest windows to look like the original figure. Mark my words, the mystery figure for 5.0 will be Punch using this same mold with a new head and the Breakdown chest if it fits in there.

Zeedust wrote:

Emerje wrote:As far as I'm concerned the only place for translucent plastic is lights and windows, nowhere else.

What about eyes? "Energy" weapons and/or projectiles?

If it's a melee weapon like an axe or sword I'm fine with it, but no guns.
You have no idea how much I hate light piped eyes. I'll never understand why people would think it's a good idea to make half of a figure's head translucent just so they kinda look like they're glowing under direct light. I don't know why anyone would choose that over some well painted eyes that will look good all the time.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:You have no idea how much I hate light piped eyes. I'll never understand why people would think it's a good idea to make half of a figure's head translucent just so they kinda look like they're glowing under direct light. I don't know why anyone would choose that over some well painted eyes that will look good all the time.

Emerje

I hate light piped eyes too. It's so rare to get it working well without rendering the rest of the head in a sillouhette and the rest of the time you just end up with a nice looking figure with black-looking dead eyes and yeah I hate having the back of the head transparent in that eye colour too. I tend to open up the heads, paint the translucent eye section whatever colour is most suitable (like light blue on my Gen Springer) then paint the back of the head it should be (green on Springer obviously) and it just looks so much better with nice bright blue eyes and a more complete looking head. It really is something I absolutely loathe about modern Transformers cos so many otherwise great figures have that damn thing.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

We should have expected that one But why use Scamper for Scorponok?

Honestly, they probably would have done fine with Fractyl on his own, so the other question is why is it there in the first place?

RiddlerJ wrote:What does Ratbat have to do with Cobra?

Lol dude you're funny. Quit messing with the new joins.

First Gen wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:What does Ratbat have to do with Cobra?

Lol dude you're funny. Quit messing with the new joins.

well I think turning a masterpiece figure into any other run of the mill transformer is a crime.

is this going to be next years subscription service? (Starting in October or so?) I thought Fan Pub was no longer doing TFCC?

wait...are they not accepting memberships anymore? like I cant buy this TFSS set now? Confused

foir those complaining about the size of megatron or his translucency;it is not meant to represent a full size transformer;it is supposed to be a hologram of meg's g2 body to explain the clear parts

Any word on when Ramjet will ship out yet?

Moonshot wrote:Any word on when Ramjet will ship out yet?

At least a month. There were significant issues with the head construction on the sample.

Counterpunch wrote:

Moonshot wrote:Any word on when Ramjet will ship out yet?

At least a month. There were significant issues with the head construction on the sample.

Did they elaborate on that? I want him to be perfect for when hell freezes over

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

Moonshot wrote:Any word on when Ramjet will ship out yet?

At least a month. There were significant issues with the head construction on the sample.

Did they elaborate on that? I want him to be perfect for when hell freezes over

It was because the factory had the ball joint on the back of the head covered instead of exposed. It needs to be exposed in order for the new head to fold down into the body for the jet mode, otherwise the covered version blocks the ball joint from moving in the direction it needs to move in order for the transformation of the head to work.

Counterpunch wrote:

Moonshot wrote:Any word on when Ramjet will ship out yet?

At least a month. There were significant issues with the head construction on the sample.

How about the FSS? When is it expected to ship, and is it getting pushed back so that Ramjet can ship first or anything like that?

Zeedust wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

Moonshot wrote:Any word on when Ramjet will ship out yet?

At least a month. There were significant issues with the head construction on the sample.

How about the FSS? When is it expected to ship, and is it getting pushed back so that Ramjet can ship first or anything like that?

They did not say specifically, only that it shipped with the Botcon figures. I'm guessing it will start once they get back into the office following Botcon.

Counterpunch wrote:

Moonshot wrote:Any word on when Ramjet will ship out yet?

At least a month. There were significant issues with the head construction on the sample.

I hope they stick with the wide open mouth, black background with the orange coloured "glowing" spots in it. Like the comic and concept art.

Counterpunch wrote:

Zeedust wrote:How about the FSS? When is it expected to ship, and is it getting pushed back so that Ramjet can ship first or anything like that?

They did not say specifically, only that it shipped with the Botcon figures. I'm guessing it will start once they get back into the office following Botcon.

Thank you. That tells me what I wanted to know.

Counterpunch is Hasbro's built-in alternate head for Wheeljack. But with no plans to actually release it themselves, they offered it to the Club.

The G.I. Joe Crossover set is meant to tell the story of the creation of Generation 2 Megatron - Cobra Commander holds the injured G1 Megatron in gun mode. He's working with Dr. Biggles-Jones to build her rail gun into the final holographic robot schematics. Scarlett is there as security/covert operations for the Joes (How Cobra actually thought she defected never really made any sense, but anyway...). Ratbat is a new addition to the story, his part to play is as a Decepticon negotiator with Cobra. Supplying Cobra Commander with the necessary Cybertronian blueprints to build G2 Megatron.

That's actually pretty cool about counterpunch's head, I wonder what other unused heads are out there. And idea if/when the botcon souvenirs will hit the club store?

steals_your_goats wrote:That's actually pretty cool about counterpunch's head, I wonder what other unused heads are out there.

At least 6, if we go by the "2 heads per shell" rule: Brawl, Rook, Silverbolt, Hot Spot, Motormaster and Cyclonus never had their alternate heads discovered via either prototypes, Fun Pub or TakaraTomy.

Toxitron uses the alternate head for Motormaster.

TF_JW wrote:Toxitron uses the alternate head for Motormaster.

Interesting. Any other alternate heads that you guys are using we don't know about? Who was he supposed to be, anyway? Nemesis Prime?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

TF_JW wrote:Toxitron uses the alternate head for Motormaster.

Interesting. Any other alternate heads that you guys are using we don't know about? Who was he supposed to be, anyway? Nemesis Prime?

I'm told that the TFSS Toxitron was originally going to be made into Nemesis Prime, but then Takara went ahead and did Grand Scourge out of the regular Optimus version, which made the Club's plans for Nemesis redundant, so they changed their planned Nemesis into Toxitron.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:That's actually pretty cool about counterpunch's head, I wonder what other unused heads are out there.

At least 6, if we go by the "2 heads per shell" rule: Brawl, Rook, Silverbolt, Hot Spot, Motormaster and Cyclonus never had their alternate heads discovered via either prototypes, Fun Pub or TakaraTomy.

We also haven't seen one for Sky Lynx, but in his case I'm guessing there just isn't one.

Zeedust wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:That's actually pretty cool about counterpunch's head, I wonder what other unused heads are out there.

At least 6, if we go by the "2 heads per shell" rule: Brawl, Rook, Silverbolt, Hot Spot, Motormaster and Cyclonus never had their alternate heads discovered via either prototypes, Fun Pub or TakaraTomy.

We also haven't seen one for Sky Lynx, but in his case I'm guessing there just isn't one.

Considering his head is the space shuttle cockpit and nose...

Zeedust wrote:We also haven't seen one for Sky Lynx, but in his case I'm guessing there just isn't one.

Liokaiser?

Also, Armada Demolishor was seen for Onslaught / Hot Spot.

Psychography wrote:

Zeedust wrote:We also haven't seen one for Sky Lynx, but in his case I'm guessing there just isn't one.

Also, Armada Demolishor was seen for Onslaught / Hot Spot.

Yes, but it was confirmed to be unused, it didn't make much sense...

Via fellow Seibertronian kurthy, we have an update from the Transformers Collector's Club about their Subscription Service 4.0 - you're soon to receive the first figure some point after next week, so keep an eye on your mailboxes, and find out more below!

Hello Subscribers,

The 4.0 shipment will arrive next week and we plan to get the first figure out to you ASAP. We need everyone to login and update your address if you have moved. In addition, the next installment payment will be processed on May 18 so please make sure your information is still correct. Because of the delay by the factory, we will be sending out each figure about 3 weeks apart.

After you log in, click My Account in the bottom lefthand corner and you can update your address and credit card information there.

Thanks for your support, enjoy the figures!

Brian

I'm excited to finally start getting some Mayhems!

I was surprised to find that was in my spam folder, so if you don't see it, check there.

Psychography wrote:

Zeedust wrote:We also haven't seen one for Sky Lynx, but in his case I'm guessing there just isn't one.

Liokaiser?

I thought we were talking about individual robot heads rather than combiner heads. Sky Lynx's robot head would probably be hard to do anything with, given that it's part of his vehicle mode and there's nobody else who really looks like him, so I don't think that part's likely to change.

Zeedust wrote:

Psychography wrote:

Zeedust wrote:We also haven't seen one for Sky Lynx, but in his case I'm guessing there just isn't one.

Liokaiser?

I thought we were talking about individual robot heads rather than combiner heads. Sky Lynx's robot head would probably be hard to do anything with, given that it's part of his vehicle mode and there's nobody else who really looks like him, so I don't think that part's likely to change.

So the feline head is the more likely one to be switched out.

Fellow podcaster extraordinaire Megatronus has just obtained the latest issue of the Transformers Club Magazine and it had some info about the new subscription service. Here is what he had to share, along with some pics:

The Club magazine arrived today, and they have a spread on the 6 TFSS 5.0 figures.

Notable bits include:
-Registration for 5.0 supposedly opens this week
-The Paradron Medic is called 'Lifeline'
-Toxitron, Fractyl, and Counterpunch are all designated 'Wreckers' and seem intended to combine

There's a bio for Lifeline (and TFSS 4.0 Impactor) towards the end of the magazine, I've included a shot of that as well.

So Wreckers are a mix of and now? That seems a little weird, so who's stuff do they wreck now since they're comprised of a mix of allegiances?

I don't think they mean the Autobot wreckers I think Wrecker is the Combiner's name from what I have heard.

Hellscream9999 wrote:So Wreckers are a mix of and now? That seems a little weird, so who's stuff do they wreck now since they're comprised of a mix of allegiances?

I think it's a callback to Beast War-era convention Wrecker fiction, which had a Wreckers team featuring 'bots, 'cons, Maximals and Predacons. Notably, Fractyl was one of those Wreckers.

The linked Impactor bio mentions he's rebuilding a Wreckers team from any survivor he can find - I assume he'll be leading this mixed Wrecker combiner.

Hellscream9999 wrote:So Wreckers are a mix of and now? That seems a little weird, so who's stuff do they wreck now since they're comprised of a mix of allegiances?

3H-era Wreckers were a mix of factions... And I think Carnivac even joined their ranks in the UK comic.

So having Deceptions on the Wreckers is just continuing the long tradition.

(EDIT: The bio referencing "Survivors" seems to be a decided nod to the UK stuff)

Nope never mind disregard my first post it is a Wreckers combiner and the Combiner's name is Wreckage.