vectorA3 wrote: Such an insult to fans, esp. older fans.
No 3D for TF3!!!
vectorA3 wrote:u said it even better than me. The flames on Optimus don't bother me really, and I understand that they can't port EVERYTHING over from 80's G1 into today b/c this is 25 yrs. later, but they could at least try harder. Some of this stuff, they've taken the easy way out on, and H has given Paramount & Bay too much leeway. But H is trying to get a foothold in Hollywood and has to make some compromises I guess --to our dismay. I wouldn't b^&$#$ half as much if it were a different director doing things and messing them up. Bay is good at what he does, but his complacent attitude when countering fan arguments pisses me off. Listen to the fans, your wallet will still be fat at the end of the day. We know what we're talkin about, we've been fans for 26+ yrs.
vectorA3 wrote:If another director made the movies & they were successful, those would've raised the public consciousness of TF definitely. I don't think bay did more than anyone else would.
vectorA3 wrote: The off-the-wall stuff you mentioned Bay threw into ROTF - is not in the spirit of TF & did not need to be used to sell it.
vectorA3 wrote: All i want for TF3 is to be as good as the first film or better. 3D is too gimmicky and unnecessary at this point. Just because you CAN make something 3D doesn't mean you have to.
vectorA3 wrote:u said it even better than me. The flames on Optimus don't bother me really, and I understand that they can't port EVERYTHING over from 80's G1 into today b/c this is 25 yrs. later, but they could at least try harder. Some of this stuff, they've taken the easy way out on, and H has given Paramount & Bay too much leeway. But H is trying to get a foothold in Hollywood and has to make some compromises I guess --to our dismay. I wouldn't b^&$#$ half as much if it were a different director doing things and messing them up. Bay is good at what he does, but his complacent attitude when countering fan arguments pisses me off. Listen to the fans, your wallet will still be fat at the end of the day. We know what we're talkin about, we've been fans for 26+ yrs.
SlyTF1 wrote:vectorA3 wrote:u said it even better than me. The flames on Optimus don't bother me really, and I understand that they can't port EVERYTHING over from 80's G1 into today b/c this is 25 yrs. later, but they could at least try harder. Some of this stuff, they've taken the easy way out on, and H has given Paramount & Bay too much leeway. But H is trying to get a foothold in Hollywood and has to make some compromises I guess --to our dismay. I wouldn't b^&$#$ half as much if it were a different director doing things and messing them up. Bay is good at what he does, but his complacent attitude when countering fan arguments pisses me off. Listen to the fans, your wallet will still be fat at the end of the day. We know what we're talkin about, we've been fans for 26+ yrs.
He DID listn to the fans. We wanted more TFs we got it. We wanted Starscream and Megatron to argue just like in G1, we got that, we wanted less humans, we almost got that, We wanted Prime to kick ass, we got that, We wanted a better plot and IMO we got that too!(But I really wouldnt have cared if the plot was poopy.) And I swear to crap, no kidding, some one asked for Bay to put a humping Wheelie in the movie I kid you not, I saw it on the internet when Wheelie was first announced.
vectorA3 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:vectorA3 wrote:u said it even better than me. The flames on Optimus don't bother me really, and I understand that they can't port EVERYTHING over from 80's G1 into today b/c this is 25 yrs. later, but they could at least try harder. Some of this stuff, they've taken the easy way out on, and H has given Paramount & Bay too much leeway. But H is trying to get a foothold in Hollywood and has to make some compromises I guess --to our dismay. I wouldn't b^&$#$ half as much if it were a different director doing things and messing them up. Bay is good at what he does, but his complacent attitude when countering fan arguments pisses me off. Listen to the fans, your wallet will still be fat at the end of the day. We know what we're talkin about, we've been fans for 26+ yrs.
He DID listn to the fans. We wanted more TFs we got it. We wanted Starscream and Megatron to argue just like in G1, we got that, we wanted less humans, we almost got that, We wanted Prime to kick ass, we got that, We wanted a better plot and IMO we got that too!(But I really wouldnt have cared if the plot was poopy.) And I swear to crap, no kidding, some one asked for Bay to put a humping Wheelie in the movie I kid you not, I saw it on the internet when Wheelie was first announced.
ok, i'll give Bay that. Got those things we wanted, but we got a lot more things we didn't want!!! Aka Turturro's thong!!! For the umpteenth time that should've just been a deleted scene on the dvd/BR not in the final cut!! They could've at least made Wheelie orange. What's so hard about that?
SlyTF1 wrote:vectorA3 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:vectorA3 wrote:u said it even better than me. The flames on Optimus don't bother me really, and I understand that they can't port EVERYTHING over from 80's G1 into today b/c this is 25 yrs. later, but they could at least try harder. Some of this stuff, they've taken the easy way out on, and H has given Paramount & Bay too much leeway. But H is trying to get a foothold in Hollywood and has to make some compromises I guess --to our dismay. I wouldn't b^&$#$ half as much if it were a different director doing things and messing them up. Bay is good at what he does, but his complacent attitude when countering fan arguments pisses me off. Listen to the fans, your wallet will still be fat at the end of the day. We know what we're talkin about, we've been fans for 26+ yrs.
He DID listn to the fans. We wanted more TFs we got it. We wanted Starscream and Megatron to argue just like in G1, we got that, we wanted less humans, we almost got that, We wanted Prime to kick ass, we got that, We wanted a better plot and IMO we got that too!(But I really wouldnt have cared if the plot was poopy.) And I swear to crap, no kidding, some one asked for Bay to put a humping Wheelie in the movie I kid you not, I saw it on the internet when Wheelie was first announced.
ok, i'll give Bay that. Got those things we wanted, but we got a lot more things we didn't want!!! Aka Turturro's thong!!! For the umpteenth time that should've just been a deleted scene on the dvd/BR not in the final cut!! They could've at least made Wheelie orange. What's so hard about that?
Well, I cant argue with that. The good just outweighs the bad for me though. I dont even pay attention to that stuff anymore. I just ignore it and get back to the awsumness of the movie.
SEXFIGHTER wrote:Im not a big lover of Bay, but im surprised hes not keen on 3D and i applaud him for not being pressured into doing it that way, purely for gimmicks. Lets get a solid story, THAT is what will define the 3rd film either way. I came on these boards ranting and raving about ROTF, but lets just cut the guy (Bay) some slack now. After a few comments that have been made in regard to 3 im feeling positive..maybe 3 will unite all factions on these boards. I hope so.
Joshua Vallse wrote: and like I said, nearly every if not every 3-D film is released with a non 3-D option. Except for the case in Australia appearently. Which strikes me as odd, especially with the release of Clash of the Titans here in the states. Sure enough, this film and How to Train Your Dragon had no 3-D options. I guess things are managed differently internationally.
gigazarak wrote:Except, at least here (Australia) the session times for the 2D versions for Avatar were A LOT less frequent, there were more 3D sessions, so you were pushed into seeing it in 3D.
Prime Riblet wrote:SEXFIGHTER wrote:Im not a big lover of Bay, but im surprised hes not keen on 3D and i applaud him for not being pressured into doing it that way, purely for gimmicks. Lets get a solid story, THAT is what will define the 3rd film either way. I came on these boards ranting and raving about ROTF, but lets just cut the guy (Bay) some slack now. After a few comments that have been made in regard to 3 im feeling positive..maybe 3 will unite all factions on these boards. I hope so.
I completely agree that 3 needs a great story. I am also impressed that Bay that Bay is so far refusing 3D-that is a very good thing. We don't need gimmicks at this point. We need a great movie with a great script.
I really just hope that TF 3 turns out great in every possible way. Unlike some other franchises, this will almost definitely be the last movie in the series......and it is doubtful the TF franchise will get any further contributions (with different directors, producers, new/better actors, new designs...etc.)in the future. We can always count on some kind of Batman movie or Superman Movie every few years, but that isn't likely with the Transformers franchise.
vectorA3 wrote:Prime Riblet wrote:SEXFIGHTER wrote:Im not a big lover of Bay, but im surprised hes not keen on 3D and i applaud him for not being pressured into doing it that way, purely for gimmicks. Lets get a solid story, THAT is what will define the 3rd film either way. I came on these boards ranting and raving about ROTF, but lets just cut the guy (Bay) some slack now. After a few comments that have been made in regard to 3 im feeling positive..maybe 3 will unite all factions on these boards. I hope so.
I completely agree that 3 needs a great story. I am also impressed that Bay that Bay is so far refusing 3D-that is a very good thing. We don't need gimmicks at this point. We need a great movie with a great script.
I really just hope that TF 3 turns out great in every possible way. Unlike some other franchises, this will almost definitely be the last movie in the series......and it is doubtful the TF franchise will get any further contributions (with different directors, producers, new/better actors, new designs...etc.)in the future. We can always count on some kind of Batman movie or Superman Movie every few years, but that isn't likely with the Transformers franchise.
why would you doubt this? ROTF made over $800 mill. I think they'll reboot at some point, there's just too much $ to made. Hasbro wants to make more $ off of toys & film too. For our sake though, I hope they reboot completely and not make TF4. The studio will probably want a reboot anyway, so they don't have to pay massive sums to the actors and directors. Thus was the case with Spiderman 4, which was scrapped in favor of a reboot.
vectorA3 wrote:And i stress -- a reboot without any involvement from M. Bay whatsoever!!!!!!!!!! Please!!!!!! No producing, directing, consulting --anything!! I hate to throw him under the bus, but no Spielberg either -- he picked Bay to direct from the outset. He should've directed himself.
SEXFIGHTER wrote:every franchise has a turkey or 2, gettin on with doin a better job next time round makes more sense than panicking and pressing the reboot button, thats just confusing for the audience. I know Bay aint the critics choice, im one of em, but this is his chance to right a lot of wrongs with the 3rd one, hes doin it anyway, so lets see what he comes up with. I dont rate Spielberg that much to be honest....now imagine Tim Burton got hold of this franchise ha ha, that would be priceless.
SlyTF1 wrote:SEXFIGHTER wrote:every franchise has a turkey or 2, gettin on with doin a better job next time round makes more sense than panicking and pressing the reboot button, thats just confusing for the audience. I know Bay aint the critics choice, im one of em, but this is his chance to right a lot of wrongs with the 3rd one, hes doin it anyway, so lets see what he comes up with. I dont rate Spielberg that much to be honest....now imagine Tim Burton got hold of this franchise ha ha, that would be priceless.
You kniow what? That wouldnt be a bad idea giving TFs to him. He always makes these dark ass depressing movies. I want to see a depressing TF movie! That would complete my life! I am doing that with a stopmotion though, but compared to a real movie its ****!
SEXFIGHTER wrote:As much as i disliked Raimis last 2 Spidey films, i think to reboot so soon is frankly ridiculous, i dont want to watch parker back in high school again.. Bond took 40 years or something to reboot and by the 2nd film the old habits started to creep back in. The only time to reboot is if the franchise has lay dormant for like 10, 15 years..not 3 or 4.
SEXFIGHTER wrote:Transformers has a vast and rich history of stories and characters..i wanna see these themes explored on the big screen at some point, not go back to square 1 and watch the Autobots crash to earth all over again
SEXFIGHTER wrote:every franchise has a turkey or 2, gettin on with doin a better job next time round makes more sense than panicking and pressing the reboot button, thats just confusing for the audience. I know Bay aint the critics choice, im one of em, but this is his chance to right a lot of wrongs with the 3rd one, hes doin it anyway, so lets see what he comes up with. I dont rate Spielberg that much to be honest....now imagine Tim Burton got hold of this franchise ha ha, that would be priceless.
vectorA3 wrote:And i stress -- a reboot without any involvement from M. Bay whatsoever!!!!!!!!!! Please!!!!!! No producing, directing, consulting --anything!! I hate to throw him under the bus, but no Spielberg either -- he picked Bay to direct from the outset. He should've directed himself.
SEXFIGHTER wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:SEXFIGHTER wrote:every franchise has a turkey or 2, gettin on with doin a better job next time round makes more sense than panicking and pressing the reboot button, thats just confusing for the audience. I know Bay aint the critics choice, im one of em, but this is his chance to right a lot of wrongs with the 3rd one, hes doin it anyway, so lets see what he comes up with. I dont rate Spielberg that much to be honest....now imagine Tim Burton got hold of this franchise ha ha, that would be priceless.
You kniow what? That wouldnt be a bad idea giving TFs to him. He always makes these dark ass depressing movies. I want to see a depressing TF movie! That would complete my life! I am doing that with a stopmotion though, but compared to a real movie its ****!
...And johnny depps role would be??...it would be twisted, but cool as fook.
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