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News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:22 am

Looking awesome, pretty exited for this.

And she does look better than previous images we were shown.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:08 am

Oh Casey/Joana..

I am very intrigued as to how Dark Cybertron will end at this point, if all these teasers keep hinting at something big. And why 'Dawn of the Autobots'? Hm? Hm?

It looks like Earth might show up again, from the OP picture we saw, but Cybertron will still be in the picture too, from this one. Argh. Come on March. Come on April.

by **warmech95** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:28 am

From what I can speculate the thing Windblade is holding in her left hand is the scabbard for her lazer sword.

With the VTOL engine on the hilt of the sword and the look of the bottom of the scabbard, this probably means the scabbard will form part of the tail end of her jet mode so the sword can store away inside the alt-mode without it needing to be attached as in the case with FOC Grimlock.

Though I do doubt she will be able to hold the scabbard and it will be connected to her body and it will be more like drifts car door scabbards.

On that note, now that drift is off the radar, what if he came back and so we would have too autobot samurai badasses cutting things up!

by **1984forever** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:10 am

Someone needs to remind the fans that AUTObots are supposed to be cars. :BANG_HEAD:

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:31 am

84forever wrote:Someone needs to remind the fans that AUTObots are supposed to be cars.

Oh so, SkyFire/ Jetfire, the Airealbots, Cosmos, and Powerglide turned into cars? And I guess Optimus Prime isn't an Autobot then, cos he turns into a truck. :roll:

News Credits: 15 · by **PrymeStriker** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:09 am

84forever wrote:Someone needs to remind the fans that AUTObots are supposed to be cars.

Autobots who were not cars:
Optimus Prime
Brawn
Gears
Ratchet
Ironhide
Trailbreaker
Hound
Jetfire
Grimlock
Swoop
Slag
Sludge
Snarl
Cosmos
Powerglide
Seaspray
Warpath
Hoist
Inferno
Grapple
Blaster
Perceptor
Omega Supreme
Huffer
Outback
Swerve
Pipes
Rewind
Eject
Steeljaw
Ramhorn
Air Raid
Fireflight
Skydive
Silverbolt
Slingshot
Groove
Blades
Hot Spot
First Aid
1/2 of Sandstorm
1/2 of Springer
Broadside
Kup
Wreck-Gar
Ultra Magnus
Sky Lynx
Metroplex
Afterburner
Nosecone
Strafe
Scattershot
Rollbar
Wide Load
Grotusque
Doublecross
Repugnus
Hardhead
Brainstorm
Highbrow
Fortress Maximus
Guzzle
Override
Dogfight
Raindance & Grand Slam
Landfill
Quickmix
Scoop
Hosehead
Quickswitch (and he’s a SIX changer)
Landmine
Chainclaw
Catilla
Cloudburst
Waverider
Sky High
Splashdown
Inner Robot of Gunrunner
Pincher
Doubleheader
Roadbuster
Whirl
Twintwist
Topspin
Longtooth
Crossblades
1/3 of Vroom
Humanoid Shell of Skyhammer
Big Shot
Sidetrack
Flak
Sunrunner
Red Hot
Fixit
Seawatch
Powertrain
Highjump
Mudslinger
Tote

And so on.

On top of that, AUTObots have been noted to, in recent continuities, stand for "autonomous robotic organisms."

Normally, I don't say this this to people, but I feel the need to here: I hope you feel like an idiot right now. :roll:

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:43 am

84forever wrote:Someone needs to remind the fans that AUTObots are supposed to be cars.

In your defense, in 1984 Autobot did turn into anything land-based that has wheels (cars, trucks, and the like) only, and in Animated they did say "Autobots can't fly" until the debut of Jetfire & Jetstorm. I will give you only these two.

News Credits: 441 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:46 am

Nice effort, guys, but since he's stuck in 1984, only the first seven on Pryme's list and maybe the mentionings of Skyfire and the Dinobots count (I say "maybe" since their toys came a year after their toon debuts).

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:38 pm

Thanks to Seibertron.com user and podcast host ScottyP we have another teaser from IDW Publishing concerning the post-Dark Cybertron world. And it's another Casey W. Coller/Joana Lafuente image, showing the Lost Light in front of a triumphant Megatron.. sporting an Autobot badge?!

News Credits: 441 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:51 pm

I am not bothered by this. Rather intrigued, actually.

But, cue mass hysteria in 3... 2... 1...

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:03 pm

News Credits: 2 · by **Twitchythe3rd** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:14 pm

Well. Looks like Rodimus will get a chance to punch him after all.

by **hinomars19** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:34 pm

Sabrblade wrote:But, cue mass hysteria in 3... 2... 1...

You realise keep posting stuff like that will only incite these things to happen?...Stop poking the dog and maybe it'll stop biting you.

I haven't read a single IDW book accept the Hoist comic that came with the Generations figure, but I am aware of many things that happens in them (thanks to this site) and I am intrigued. But I'm tentative of jumping into such a large book series with a lot of interwoven stuff, plus...I learned from my days collecting X-Men and Spider-man that every comic series seems to ret-con or throw excuses around for stories to shift and re-boot all too often, especially when a concept or story is stale, limits things or people just outright hate. (Ben Riley, anyone?) I dunno. I don't like it when long running, well built comics come to a dead end and pull an excuse out of it's arse to somehow restore status Quo. Does this happen much in IDW's TF comics?
Plus...I'm really bad at remembering to pick issues up, especially when I have no where to get them from here. And I prefer cartoons. Still, I can keep up with stuff on TF wiki at least.
Question though; Doesn't Megatron have the black stealth bomber body?

News Credits: 4 · by **craggy** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:43 pm

Megatron ditched the stealth bomber mode in RID before Dark Cybertron.

I'm just hoping we get a toy of this now. I'm sure if it has the Bot logo I can find some Reprolabels.

News Credits: 4 · by **philswitch engage** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:43 pm

I am behind on all the dark cybertron stuff, but this looks like it might be a Pan Cybertron push with the autobots being the symbol of a united cybertron.

News Credits: 4 · by **philswitch engage** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:07 pm

Just had a thought. If Megatron is showing an autobot badge, and he is obviously not an autobot, then is windblade truly an autobot?

by **Unicronobot** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:10 pm

hinomars19 wrote:I haven't read a single IDW book accept the Hoist comic that came with the Generations figure, but I am aware of many things that happens in them (thanks to this site) and I am intrigued. But I'm tentative of jumping into such a large book series with a lot of interwoven stuff, plus...I learned from my days collecting X-Men and Spider-man that every comic series seems to ret-con or throw excuses around for stories to shift and re-boot all too often, especially when a concept or story is stale, limits things or people just outright hate. (Ben Riley, anyone?) I dunno. I don't like it when long running, well built comics come to a dead end and pull an excuse out of it's arse to somehow restore status Quo. Does this happen much in IDW's TF comics?
Plus...I'm really bad at remembering to pick issues up, especially when I have no where to get them from here. And I prefer cartoons. Still, I can keep up with stuff on TF wiki at least.
Question though; Doesn't Megatron have the black stealth bomber body?

To answer your first line of questions, IDW really hasn't done any retconning at all. With a mixture of torrenting and buying trades in comic shops, I've managed to read all of idw's Generation 1 comics and they've been very strong on their stand of having one very large "G1" universe and have just continued adding onto it as the years go on, they only split their G1 universe into 2 comics after the end of the D-Void catastrophe, when Optimus renounced his title as a prime and the autobots split into the groups that stayed with bumblebee and the groups the left with Rodimus, and that I feel was just to make story telling easier and at the same time get new revenue. But I think after Dark Cybertron is over they'll be merging the books together again and even then still just continue their stories without any need to "reboot." As for the megatron question, he had the Bomber body up to when the comic split into Robots in Disguise and More Than Meets the Eye. It was heavily damaged after the D-Void catastrophe and when he returned he needed a new one which Shockwave and Soundwave rebuilt for him.

News Credits: 441 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:25 pm

Unicronobot wrote:To answer your first line of questions, IDW really hasn't done any retconning at all.

"All Hail Megatron" did a whole bunch of retconning, whose retcons themselves had to be retconned by many many post-AHM issues in order to restore sense and logic in fitting with the pre-AHM Simon Furman stories.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:40 pm

Umm...

wat
Help, my brain's broke, someone send for help.

Sabrblade wrote:
Unicronobot wrote:To answer your first line of questions, IDW really hasn't done any retconning at all.
"All Hail Megatron" did a whole bunch of retconning, whose retcons themselves had to be retconned by many many post-AHM issues in order to restore sense and logic in fitting with the pre-AHM Simon Furman stories.

So the retcon retconned a lot of retconning which have retconned the retcon?

Oh God, I've gone cross-eyed...

News Credits: 441 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:03 pm

Mindmaster wrote:Umm...

wat
Help, my brain's broke, someone send for help.

Sabrblade wrote:
Unicronobot wrote:To answer your first line of questions, IDW really hasn't done any retconning at all.
"All Hail Megatron" did a whole bunch of retconning, whose retcons themselves had to be retconned by many many post-AHM issues in order to restore sense and logic in fitting with the pre-AHM Simon Furman stories.

So the retcon retconned a lot of retconning which have retconned the retcon?

Oh God, I've gone cross-eyed...

Basically, Furman created a certain special status quo that portrayed the war as a galactic cold war fought in secret with protocols and standards, but then along came Shane McCarthy with All Hail Megatron, which set out to change the scheme of everything into being "like the G1 cartoon, but edgy!" The war was changed into having been started because of the Matrix and things like Cybertron's poisonous atmosphere were hastily neutered with little explanation. The the Mike Costa-penned ongoing came along with wanting to be like a mishmash of G1 with more of a Movieverse feel to it, while also trying to explain some of the retcons caused by All Hail Megatron along the way with newer retcons. Then we come to the current era with both James Roberts and John Barber telling more stories that go off and do their own thing (until "Dark Cybertron", that is) while occasionally patching up any additional continuity errors from the past. 'Course, there's the Flint Dille/Chris Metzen-penned "Autocracy" and "Monstrocity" series that made more retcons, but were more workable with the Roberts/Barber stuff since they kept referencing those.

Thankfully, as TFWiki says, John Barber is "God's gift to continuity." (He even helped to make sense out of the whole Movieverse timeline)

News Credits: 1 · by **Sodan-1** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:41 pm

Dead Metal wrote:

Perfect, Dead Metal.

The Autobot symbol really suits the big guy in my opinion.

by **Alex Jones** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:49 pm

Admittely I am not too enthralled with the IDW soap opera universe. I feel the characterization was off and the stories just way too complex to follow. Keep in mind I don't read comics so this could be the norm. However, I did enjoy the Dreamwave a bit better than IDW.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:04 pm

Just to be clear, MTMTE and RID are not merging again after Dark Cybertron.
Roberts, Milne, Griffith, Burcham, Perez and other people working on them have confirmed that there will be (at least) the two ongoings once the crossover is done.

News Credits: 441 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:12 pm

Va'al wrote:Just to be clear, MTMTE and RID are not merging again after Dark Cybertron.
Roberts, Milne, Griffith, Burcham, Perez and other people working on them have confirmed that there will be (at least) the two ongoings once the crossover is done.

Yeah, these three teasers look like they're for three different series to me: