Video review of Studio Series Voyager Class 38 Bumblebee Optimus Prime with transformation and more
Saturday, January 5th, 2019 1:35PM CST
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This review allows us to get the best look at the toy yet, as well as its surprisingly complex transformation. We see the ion blaster included stores between his legs in truck mode to fill in the gap and hold it togethyer. The backpack in robot mode also has 5mm (probably) holes to store the blaster.
TonTon also includes comparisons with Studio Series Deluxe Class 18 Bumblebee, the other Studio Series Optimus Primes, and more!
UPDATE:
While the video on Youtube was taken down, you can still watch the review on YOUKU at the following link: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMzk5ODg4M ... 1d87631d68
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Posted by Amelie on January 5th, 2019 @ 1:38pm CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 5th, 2019 @ 1:53pm CST
This one will be a sure buy.
Posted by Octobotimus on January 5th, 2019 @ 2:54pm CST
Posted by kirbenvost on January 5th, 2019 @ 3:51pm CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 5th, 2019 @ 3:56pm CST
Octobotimus wrote:Funny how we all thought he had a fake chest/windows yet there he is, actually using the truck mode's windows.... and he seems to have a good size as well, This is a sure buy.
DAMN! I came to realise that there is absolunely no "fake" anything on this bot. No fake windows, no fake grill, no fake wheels either.
It IS a sure buy.
Posted by Prowl4 on January 5th, 2019 @ 4:23pm CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:Octobotimus wrote:Funny how we all thought he had a fake chest/windows yet there he is, actually using the truck mode's windows.... and he seems to have a good size as well, This is a sure buy.
DAMN! I came to realise that there is absolunely no "fake" anything on this bot. No fake windows, no fake grill, no fake wheels either.
It IS a sure buy.
Quite odd then that the movie is flopping.
Posted by Deadput on January 5th, 2019 @ 4:38pm CST
Prowl4 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Octobotimus wrote:Funny how we all thought he had a fake chest/windows yet there he is, actually using the truck mode's windows.... and he seems to have a good size as well, This is a sure buy.
DAMN! I came to realise that there is absolunely no "fake" anything on this bot. No fake windows, no fake grill, no fake wheels either.
It IS a sure buy.
Quite odd then that the movie is flopping.
What does that have to do with what he said?
Also look here for how China is helping https://twitter.com/Manvendra_CBO/statu ... 8909128706
It might not do fantastic but this isn't going to be a flop, especially with the lower budget of the movie
Posted by Prowl4 on January 5th, 2019 @ 4:43pm CST
Deadput wrote:Prowl4 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Octobotimus wrote:Funny how we all thought he had a fake chest/windows yet there he is, actually using the truck mode's windows.... and he seems to have a good size as well, This is a sure buy.
DAMN! I came to realise that there is absolunely no "fake" anything on this bot. No fake windows, no fake grill, no fake wheels either.
It IS a sure buy.
Quite odd then that the movie is flopping.
What does that have to do with what he said?
Also look here for how China is helping https://twitter.com/Manvendra_CBO/statu ... 8909128706
It might not do fantastic but this isn't going to be a flop, especially with the lower budget of the movie
Talking poor of a design in a successful movie versus a design in a flopping movie. Hoping China will help is sad and futile. Aquaman got an extension there and the opening in China wasn't strong so.....flop.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 5th, 2019 @ 4:44pm CST
Posted by Prowl4 on January 5th, 2019 @ 4:47pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:Having had him for a few weeks now, dropkick is still a ton of fun to transform, so clever, so smart, I love it.
The helicopter mode is pretty good. Will probably keep him that way.
Posted by Deadput on January 5th, 2019 @ 4:50pm CST
Prowl4 wrote:
Talking poor of a design in a successful movie versus a design in a flopping movie. Hoping China will help is sad and futile. Aquaman got an extension there and the opening in China wasn't strong so.....flop.
He's talking about a toy, not the movie associated with the toy.
The Nitro Zeus figure was good despite being in the toyline for that movie so what does your point have to do with anything.
Movie doesn't need to do good for the toy to be good.
"Ah this Optimus toy is well articulated and designed but it's such a bad figure because the movie did bad"
What logic is that?
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 5th, 2019 @ 4:53pm CST
Posted by Prowl4 on January 5th, 2019 @ 4:54pm CST
Deadput wrote:Prowl4 wrote:
Talking poor of a design in a successful movie versus a design in a flopping movie. Hoping China will help is sad and futile. Aquaman got an extension there and the opening in China wasn't strong so.....flop.
He's talking about a toy, not the movie associated with the toy.
The Nitro Zeus figure was good despite being in the toyline for that movie so what does your point have to do with anything.
Movie doesn't need to do good for the toy to be good.
"Ah this Optimus toy is well articulated and designed but it's such a bad figure because the movie did bad"
What logic is that?
His saying of the 07 design being bad is obviously wrong as people enjoyed that design.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 5th, 2019 @ 4:54pm CST
Prowl4 wrote:Deadput wrote:Prowl4 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Octobotimus wrote:Funny how we all thought he had a fake chest/windows yet there he is, actually using the truck mode's windows.... and he seems to have a good size as well, This is a sure buy.
DAMN! I came to realise that there is absolunely no "fake" anything on this bot. No fake windows, no fake grill, no fake wheels either.
It IS a sure buy.
Quite odd then that the movie is flopping.
What does that have to do with what he said?
Also look here for how China is helping https://twitter.com/Manvendra_CBO/statu ... 8909128706
It might not do fantastic but this isn't going to be a flop, especially with the lower budget of the movie
Talking poor of a design in a successful movie versus a design in a flopping movie. Hoping China will help is sad and futile. Aquaman got an extension there and the opening in China wasn't strong so.....flop.
FYI The movie already made back its production cost and then some (As of Jan 4th $196.6M worldwide over a $135M budget), so it's not a flop in the slightest. There have been much worse.
Back to the toys:
Posted by Prowl4 on January 5th, 2019 @ 5:00pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Prowl4 wrote:Deadput wrote:Prowl4 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Octobotimus wrote:Funny how we all thought he had a fake chest/windows yet there he is, actually using the truck mode's windows.... and he seems to have a good size as well, This is a sure buy.
DAMN! I came to realise that there is absolunely no "fake" anything on this bot. No fake windows, no fake grill, no fake wheels either.
It IS a sure buy.
Quite odd then that the movie is flopping.
What does that have to do with what he said?
Also look here for how China is helping https://twitter.com/Manvendra_CBO/statu ... 8909128706
It might not do fantastic but this isn't going to be a flop, especially with the lower budget of the movie
Talking poor of a design in a successful movie versus a design in a flopping movie. Hoping China will help is sad and futile. Aquaman got an extension there and the opening in China wasn't strong so.....flop.
FYI The movie already made back its production cost and then some (As of Jan 4th $196.6M worldwide over a $135M budget), so it's not a flop in the slightest. There have been much worse.
Back to the toys:
A 60 million profit is nothing when you factor in marketing and reshoots so yes it's a flop.
Posted by Octobotimus on January 5th, 2019 @ 5:09pm CST
Posted by Prowl4 on January 5th, 2019 @ 5:16pm CST
Octobotimus wrote:how about you actually become patient and wait more than at the very least a month to determine if its a flop or not.
The writing is on the wall. This isn't a slow burner.
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 5th, 2019 @ 5:21pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 5th, 2019 @ 5:25pm CST
anyway:
ZeroWolf wrote:You know what would be awesome? If it turned out Jetfire could combine with #38, imagine if that's who the chest piece came for... Now this leaves AoE with no prime presentation in the Studio Series line, wonder how long that'll last.
while i doubt it, it would be cool.
I'm also super glad at how long the line has lasted and appears to be planned to last. It's pretty awesome to have so many new movie figures.
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 5th, 2019 @ 5:29pm CST
Posted by durroth on January 5th, 2019 @ 5:36pm CST
Posted by Prowl4 on January 5th, 2019 @ 5:49pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:I'm curious to see who will be filling the gaps in between the constructicons, I'll be pouncing on all of them!
Looking so very forward to the constructicons. Hoping for the twins to be revealed next in both ice cream truck mode and in their Chevy modes. Hasbro have been toying around with duocons as of late so it'd be fantastic to see the twins get updates.
Posted by Ultra Markus on January 5th, 2019 @ 6:47pm CST
could someone please put a link to it
Posted by Immortal Starscream on January 5th, 2019 @ 7:51pm CST
Ultra Markus wrote:the video is not available
could someone please put a link to it
looks like the review was taken down
Posted by Ultra Markus on January 5th, 2019 @ 8:31pm CST
Immortal Starscream wrote:Ultra Markus wrote:the video is not available
could someone please put a link to it
looks like the review was taken down
Why
Posted by Deadput on January 5th, 2019 @ 9:27pm CST
Ultra Markus wrote:Immortal Starscream wrote:Ultra Markus wrote:the video is not available
could someone please put a link to it
looks like the review was taken down
Why
Probably something to do with the toy not having been announced officially by Hasbro, only reason we know of this toy is due to leaks.
Posted by ToaLeePrime on January 5th, 2019 @ 10:12pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on January 5th, 2019 @ 10:28pm CST
Octobotimus wrote:Funny how we all thought he had a fake chest/windows yet there he is, actually using the truck mode's windows.... and he seems to have a good size as well, This is a sure buy.
I dont remember anyone saying that here. Instead our first instinct was that it was pulling some majic from the Siege Optimus transformation which does have real windows.
I was certain there were no fake parts going on due to how lean the toy is.
Also, its too bad it was taken down I didnt get to see the review
EDIT: Found a new link, article has been updated
Posted by william-james88 on January 5th, 2019 @ 11:28pm CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:DAMN! I came to realise that there is absolunely no "fake" anything on this bot. No fake windows, no fake grill, no fake wheels either.
There are fake parts. The alt mode detail on his upper arms, including truck lights, are not from the alt mode.
Posted by durroth on January 5th, 2019 @ 11:48pm CST
william-james88 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:DAMN! I came to realise that there is absolunely no "fake" anything on this bot. No fake windows, no fake grill, no fake wheels either.
There are fake parts. The alt mode detail on his upper arms, including truck lights, are not from the alt mode.
I'm still not sure whats up with the back window. I know its just there to give us something to look at when those parts arent filling the calves but it looks like its molded to resemble the front windshield?
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 5th, 2019 @ 11:56pm CST
william-james88 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:DAMN! I came to realise that there is absolunely no "fake" anything on this bot. No fake windows, no fake grill, no fake wheels either.
There are fake parts. The alt mode detail on his upper arms, including truck lights, are not from the alt mode.
So there is a bit of cheat. But this won't compare to HUGE details like an entire fake chest or absurd unpainted fake wheels like on TF Prime figures.
Posted by primalxconvoy on January 6th, 2019 @ 2:06am CST
Posted by Agent 53 on January 6th, 2019 @ 4:23am CST
Prowl4 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:I'm curious to see who will be filling the gaps in between the constructicons, I'll be pouncing on all of them!
Looking so very forward to the constructicons. Hoping for the twins to be revealed next in both ice cream truck mode and in their Chevy modes. Hasbro have been toying around with duocons as of late so it'd be fantastic to see the twins get updates.
I'd actually like to see the Ice cream truck twins get a voyager mold I have/ had (I don't know where it is, I think it broke) the original deluxe figure and it's a bit small and fiddly, and as the Twins are deluxe class figures individually, logically their form with a combined vehicle mode should be voyager class, or some sort of standalone box set like the Jet Twins in the Animated line.
Also, when I previously asked why TFWiki haven't acknowledged the existence of the voyager Optimus from the Bumblebee movie, I was told it's because HasTak have yet to officially announce it. Well what the heck are the waiting for? We all know it exists, it's been reviewed, at this rate it's going to actually be available for purchase before they do! Yes I know I said this previously.
Posted by JoeIsNotCool on January 6th, 2019 @ 4:42am CST
Agent 53 wrote:Prowl4 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:I'm curious to see who will be filling the gaps in between the constructicons, I'll be pouncing on all of them!
Looking so very forward to the constructicons. Hoping for the twins to be revealed next in both ice cream truck mode and in their Chevy modes. Hasbro have been toying around with duocons as of late so it'd be fantastic to see the twins get updates.
I'd actually like to see the Ice cream truck twins get a voyager mold I have/ had (I don't know where it is, I think it broke) the original deluxe figure and it's a bit small and fiddly, and as the Twins are deluxe class figures individually, logically their form with a combined vehicle mode should be voyager class, or some sort of standalone box set like the Jet Twins in the Animated line.
Also, when I previously asked why TFWiki haven't acknowledged the existence of the voyager Optimus from the Bumblebee movie, I was told it's because HasTak have yet to officially announce it. Well what the heck are the waiting for? We all know it exists, it's been reviewed, at this rate it's going to actually be available for purchase before they do! Yes I know I said this previously.
The same happened with Ironhide though didn't it? Or am I mistaken.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 6th, 2019 @ 5:21am CST
primalxconvoy wrote:I'm still a bit confused on the robot mode size. I'm considering cancelling my pre-order for the new WFC Optimus if this "film" version is around the size of a voyager/leader. I already cancelled the Seige version of "Minor-Magnus", due to the tiny size and child-applied silver pen all over him. This seems to be a time when the film toys look more "CHUG" than the actual "CHUG" figures...
This is what I was arguing about earlier. And yes, that new "Movie" Optimus is even more "Chuggier" than the 2007 Cybertron repaints.
If you could have seen the video that was taken down, he compared the size with Evasion Optimus. He's about the same size as him. Maybe a few millimeters bigger overall but not by much. I guesstimate that he'll be as big as the Siege one.
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 6th, 2019 @ 5:23am CST
primalxconvoy wrote:I'm still a bit confused on the robot mode size. I'm considering cancelling my pre-order for the new WFC Optimus if this "film" version is around the size of a voyager/leader. I already cancelled the Seige version of "Minor-Magnus", due to the tiny size and child-applied silver pen all over him. This seems to be a time when the film toys look more "CHUG" than the actual "CHUG" figures...
That's because the design philosophy has changed with Siege wanting cartoon accurate robot modes and adhering to a G1 cartoon scale.
Posted by Sabrblade on January 6th, 2019 @ 8:13am CST
This cannot stressed enough: TFWiki does not and will never condone, support, or advocate the promotion of STOLEN toys/merchandise. That's how all these early leaks happen before Hasbro's official reveals. Thievery is not an acceptable medium through which new merchandise gets add to the Wiki.Agent 53 wrote:Also, when I previously asked why TFWiki haven't acknowledged the existence of the voyager Optimus from the Bumblebee movie, I was told it's because HasTak have yet to officially announce it. Well what the heck are the waiting for? We all know it exists, it's been reviewed, at this rate it's going to actually be available for purchase before they do! Yes I know I said this previously.
Posted by JoeIsNotCool on January 6th, 2019 @ 8:21am CST
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on January 6th, 2019 @ 8:25am CST
ZeroWolf wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:I'm still a bit confused on the robot mode size. I'm considering cancelling my pre-order for the new WFC Optimus if this "film" version is around the size of a voyager/leader. I already cancelled the Seige version of "Minor-Magnus", due to the tiny size and child-applied silver pen all over him. This seems to be a time when the film toys look more "CHUG" than the actual "CHUG" figures...
That's because the design philosophy has changed with Siege wanting cartoon accurate robot modes and adhering to a G1 cartoon scale.
Also, there's an upper limit to the mass of plastic that can be used in any given size class. This has been the case ever since size classes were formally created with the launch of Beast Wars and it isn't going away. Magnus having a Voyager-size cab robot leaves less mass for the trailer, which results in smaller armor. Doing his armor at its full size relative to a Voyager cab would require a Supreme-class toy.
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 6th, 2019 @ 8:28am CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:I'm still a bit confused on the robot mode size. I'm considering cancelling my pre-order for the new WFC Optimus if this "film" version is around the size of a voyager/leader. I already cancelled the Seige version of "Minor-Magnus", due to the tiny size and child-applied silver pen all over him. This seems to be a time when the film toys look more "CHUG" than the actual "CHUG" figures...
That's because the design philosophy has changed with Siege wanting cartoon accurate robot modes and adhering to a G1 cartoon scale.
Also, there's an upper limit to the mass of plastic that can be used in any given size class. This has been the case ever since size classes were formally created with the launch of Beast Wars and it isn't going away. Magnus having a Voyager-size cab robot leaves less mass for the trailer, which results in smaller armor. Doing his armor at its full size relative to a Voyager cab would require a Supreme-class toy.
This ^ though obviously, people don't have to like it but things are what they are.
Posted by Prowl4 on January 6th, 2019 @ 9:36am CST
Agent 53 wrote:Prowl4 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:I'm curious to see who will be filling the gaps in between the constructicons, I'll be pouncing on all of them!
Looking so very forward to the constructicons. Hoping for the twins to be revealed next in both ice cream truck mode and in their Chevy modes. Hasbro have been toying around with duocons as of late so it'd be fantastic to see the twins get updates.
I'd actually like to see the Ice cream truck twins get a voyager mold I have/ had (I don't know where it is, I think it broke) the original deluxe figure and it's a bit small and fiddly, and as the Twins are deluxe class figures individually, logically their form with a combined vehicle mode should be voyager class, or some sort of standalone box set like the Jet Twins in the Animated line.
Also, when I previously asked why TFWiki haven't acknowledged the existence of the voyager Optimus from the Bumblebee movie, I was told it's because HasTak have yet to officially announce it. Well what the heck are the waiting for? We all know it exists, it's been reviewed, at this rate it's going to actually be available for purchase before they do! Yes I know I said this previously.
I don't know man a Voyager mould might be too big. Given how they stand at about 8 feet their robot height should be about half the size of studio series bee and smaller than jazz.
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on January 6th, 2019 @ 9:59am CST
Edit: Watched the video and as if I needed more convincing at this point lol. The transformation looks nicely complicated if a little fiddly, but I like how the backpack ends up looking very clean. I was wondering how the front wheels would incorporate with the robot mode, and J am pleased with how they turned out. This figure is now a must have for me.
Posted by primalxconvoy on January 6th, 2019 @ 4:14pm CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:I'm still a bit confused on the robot mode size. I'm considering cancelling my pre-order for the new WFC Optimus if this "film" version is around the size of a voyager/leader. I already cancelled the Seige version of "Minor-Magnus", due to the tiny size and child-applied silver pen all over him. This seems to be a time when the film toys look more "CHUG" than the actual "CHUG" figures...
This is what I was arguing about earlier. And yes, that new "Movie" Optimus is even more "Chuggier" than the 2007 Cybertron repaints.
If you could have seen the video that was taken down, he compared the size with Evasion Optimus. He's about the same size as him. Maybe a few millimeters bigger overall but not by much. I guesstimate that he'll be as big as the Siege one.
Thanks. Which Evasion version; the old "deluxe" sized one, or the recent TT "Not OSKO" version?
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 6th, 2019 @ 4:17pm CST
primalxconvoy wrote:Thanks. Which Evasion version; the old "deluxe" sized one, or the recent TT "Not OSKO" version?
The original voyager, of course.
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on January 6th, 2019 @ 4:21pm CST
LeAwesome1 wrote:If anybody has the ROTF Optimus in the UK that isn't getting the SS Jetfire, could they possibly message me so I can send them this chest from my Jetfire so we can see if that is what it is for? I'll pay for postage etc.
I have Jetfire coming this week (I still can't find SS32 Prime for sale anywhere yet for some reason) and I have SS05 Prime but really that piece isn't for that older Prime at all (completely different chest and ab area), just SS32 but I'm not sure why as the only video I saw it swapped out for was in japanese or something so I couldn't understand the explanation if any.
Wasn't actually planning to get Jetfire yet as spent too much lately and was thinking about cutting down my Studio collection of non-essential characters since my enthusiasm for it all has been dampened with ss38 (still think that SS38 Prime looks like blocky junk. Absolutely hate the torso especially. Same old boring boxy G1 angles. No creativity or style at all. But it's also what it represents that pisses me off too. Damn G1 in my movieverse). But then I saw a review video and Jetfire looks bloody gorgeous for an old grandad bot so I have to see it in person and see if I like it and if I don't I can just sell it on. Been selling off what few G1 and G1-update TF figures I still had in the past couple weeks anyways so it's not hurting the bank balance too much at moment.
Posted by primalxconvoy on January 6th, 2019 @ 4:23pm CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:Thanks. Which Evasion version; the old "deluxe" sized one, or the recent TT "Not OSKO" version?
The original voyager, of course.
Insert "like" mark here.
Posted by Prowl4 on January 6th, 2019 @ 4:26pm CST
Carnivius_Prime wrote:LeAwesome1 wrote:If anybody has the ROTF Optimus in the UK that isn't getting the SS Jetfire, could they possibly message me so I can send them this chest from my Jetfire so we can see if that is what it is for? I'll pay for postage etc.
I have Jetfire coming this week (I still can't find SS32 Prime for sale anywhere yet for some reason) and I have SS05 Prime but really that piece isn't for that older Prime at all (completely different chest and ab area), just SS32 but I'm not sure why as the only video I saw it swapped out for was in japanese or something so I couldn't understand the explanation if any.
Wasn't actually planning to get Jetfire yet as spent too much lately and was thinking about cutting down my Studio collection of non-essential characters since my enthusiasm for it all has been dampened with ss38 (still think that SS38 Prime looks like blocky junk. Absolutely hate the torso especially. Same old boring boxy G1 angles. No creativity or style at all. But it's also what it represents that pisses me off too. Damn G1 in my movieverse). But then I saw a review video and Jetfire looks bloody gorgeous for an old grandad bot so I have to see it in person and see if I like it and if I don't I can just sell it on. Been selling off what few G1 and G1-update TF figures I still had in the past couple weeks anyways so it's not hurting the bank balance too much at moment.
Looking forward to Jetfire, sideswipe and barricade. Couldn't give a rats about 38 ha.
Posted by JoeIsNotCool on January 6th, 2019 @ 6:30pm CST
Carnivius_Prime wrote:LeAwesome1 wrote:If anybody has the ROTF Optimus in the UK that isn't getting the SS Jetfire, could they possibly message me so I can send them this chest from my Jetfire so we can see if that is what it is for? I'll pay for postage etc.
I have Jetfire coming this week (I still can't find SS32 Prime for sale anywhere yet for some reason) and I have SS05 Prime but really that piece isn't for that older Prime at all (completely different chest and ab area), just SS32 but I'm not sure why as the only video I saw it swapped out for was in japanese or something so I couldn't understand the explanation if any.
Wasn't actually planning to get Jetfire yet as spent too much lately and was thinking about cutting down my Studio collection of non-essential characters since my enthusiasm for it all has been dampened with ss38 (still think that SS38 Prime looks like blocky junk. Absolutely hate the torso especially. Same old boring boxy G1 angles. No creativity or style at all. But it's also what it represents that pisses me off too. Damn G1 in my movieverse). But then I saw a review video and Jetfire looks bloody gorgeous for an old grandad bot so I have to see it in person and see if I like it and if I don't I can just sell it on. Been selling off what few G1 and G1-update TF figures I still had in the past couple weeks anyways so it's not hurting the bank balance too much at moment.
Jetfire is beautiful. I honestly think its the best figure I own from the line. I doubt you'll be disappointed.
Posted by william-james88 on January 6th, 2019 @ 9:08pm CST
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Wasn't actually planning to get Jetfire yet as spent too much lately and was thinking about cutting down my Studio collection of non-essential characters since my enthusiasm for it all has been dampened with ss38 (still think that SS38 Prime looks like blocky junk. Absolutely hate the torso especially. Same old boring boxy G1 angles. No creativity or style at all. But it's also what it represents that pisses me off too. Damn G1 in my movieverse).
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 6th, 2019 @ 9:18pm CST
MICHAEL BAY SUPERIOR!
Proof with this awesome fight scene on the TRUE and ORIGINAL Bay Cybertron featuring iconic characters:
So beautiful.