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[G.B. Blackrock]

Hmm, more I think on it, my enthusiasm for this wanes. Yeah, would've been better for Bluestreak to be a retail release and save the free figure for someone else.

Quite bluntly, this figure would never have been released at retail. Ever. Certainly not in the US, and probably not even in Japan.

[Zeedust]

Hmm, more I think on it, my enthusiasm for this wanes. Yeah, would've been better for Bluestreak to be a retail release and save the free figure for someone else.

Quite bluntly, this figure would never have been released at retail. Ever. Certainly not in the US, and probably not even in Japan.

I think he meant just the character rather than this specific deco.

[G.B. Blackrock]

Hmm, more I think on it, my enthusiasm for this wanes. Yeah, would've been better for Bluestreak to be a retail release and save the free figure for someone else.

Quite bluntly, this figure would never have been released at retail. Ever. Certainly not in the US, and probably not even in Japan.

I think he meant just the character rather than this specific deco.

But it's the deco that makes this worthwhile as a club figure (or not, depending on your opinion). The fact that it's that character really doesn't mean a thing.

[RK_Striker_JK_5]

Hmm, more I think on it, my enthusiasm for this wanes. Yeah, would've been better for Bluestreak to be a retail release and save the free figure for someone else.

Quite bluntly, this figure would never have been released at retail. Ever. Certainly not in the US, and probably not even in Japan.

I think he meant just the character rather than this specific deco.

But it's the deco that makes this worthwhile as a club figure (or not, depending on your opinion). The fact that it's that character really doesn't mean a thing.

Yes, it does, since that's who I'm talking about. I mean Bluestreak. That's who should have gotten retail release.

[Zeedust]

Is anyone else starting to get antsy about when we'll get the next figure, or is it just me who feels like it's taking longer to show up than Windsweeper did?

But it's the deco that makes this worthwhile as a club figure (or not, depending on your opinion). The fact that it's that character really doesn't mean a thing.

No offense, but that doesn't really sound like a selling point.

[Sabrblade]

Hmm, more I think on it, my enthusiasm for this wanes. Yeah, would've been better for Bluestreak to be a retail release and save the free figure for someone else.

Quite bluntly, this figure would never have been released at retail. Ever. Certainly not in the US, and probably not even in Japan.

I think he meant just the character rather than this specific deco.

But it's the deco that makes this worthwhile as a club figure (or not, depending on your opinion). The fact that it's that character really doesn't mean a thing.

Yes, it does, since that's who I'm talking about. I mean Bluestreak. That's who should have gotten retail release.

Well, let's look at it from this way. While it would have been most preferable for the figure to have come to mass retail instead of from the Club, the alternative is for it to have never come out at all. If the Club had chosen to forgo the character choice they went with, and instead had gone with someone else entirely (perhaps another more niche character), would the complete absence of any possible chance of owning a CW Bluestreak have been more irksome or less irksome than the Club's giving current offering giving it a chance to possibly exist and be owned by some members of the fandom (even if that quantity of fans would be a smaller number than what a mass retail release would offer)?

In other words, would you rather have a chance (even if it's a more expensive chance) to own this figure at all, or have no chance of any kind granted to us?

And, yes, I ask this knowing full well that Takara could release their own version at a later point (as was the case with the BotCon 2007 Seekers getting Gentei! Gentei! counterpart releases), but at this present point in time, there's no sign or guarantee that Takara will do so (nor is there anything saying that they won't, but that also just shows that Takara doing their own is just not a relevant factor at this point).

[G.B. Blackrock]

Hmm, more I think on it, my enthusiasm for this wanes. Yeah, would've been better for Bluestreak to be a retail release and save the free figure for someone else.

Quite bluntly, this figure would never have been released at retail. Ever. Certainly not in the US, and probably not even in Japan.

I think he meant just the character rather than this specific deco.

But it's the deco that makes this worthwhile as a club figure (or not, depending on your opinion). The fact that it's that character really doesn't mean a thing.

Yes, it does, since that's who I'm talking about. I mean Bluestreak. That's who should have gotten retail release.

The fact that the club did this deco means absolutely nothing about whether or not the character would/could have come out. It still can. This toy didn't, and won't, have any impact on that.

But the deco? No way that's ever happening at retail. If the club didn't do it, it probably would never exist at all (allowing for the slim chance than Japan might, it's still the slimmest of chances).

[RNSrobot]

Is anyone else starting to get antsy about when we'll get the next figure, or is it just me who feels like it's taking longer to show up than Windsweeper did?

There was an email/post just last week about this, on the 19th.

"Hello Transformers FSS 4.0 Subscribers, here is your update on the next shipment that will go out by the end of July."

[Flashwave]

Hmm, more I think on it, my enthusiasm for this wanes. Yeah, would've been better for Bluestreak to be a retail release and save the free figure for someone else.

Quite bluntly, this figure would never have been released at retail. Ever. Certainly not in the US, and probably not even in Japan.

I think he meant just the character rather than this specific deco.

But it's the deco that makes this worthwhile as a club figure (or not, depending on your opinion). The fact that it's that character really doesn't mean a thing.

Yes, it does, since that's who I'm talking about. I mean Bluestreak. That's who should have gotten retail release.

The fact that the club did this deco means absolutely nothing about whether or not the character would/could have come out. It still can. This toy didn't, and won't, have any impact on that.

But the deco? No way that's ever happening at retail. If the club didn't do it, it probably would never exist at all (allowing for the slim chance than Japan might, it's still the slimmest of chances).

The fact that TFSS did Bluestreak has every bearing on the main line, because Hasbro will veto things that the Club wants to do if they plan on the same figure relatively soon

Though to be honest, I wonder if psrhaps Bluestreak should have been an announced figure now. Seems like he has a lot of support. Maybe he woulda sold one more 4.0 or 5.0 if he swapped places.

[G.B. Blackrock]

Hmm, more I think on it, my enthusiasm for this wanes. Yeah, would've been better for Bluestreak to be a retail release and save the free figure for someone else.

Quite bluntly, this figure would never have been released at retail. Ever. Certainly not in the US, and probably not even in Japan.

I think he meant just the character rather than this specific deco.

But it's the deco that makes this worthwhile as a club figure (or not, depending on your opinion). The fact that it's that character really doesn't mean a thing.

Yes, it does, since that's who I'm talking about. I mean Bluestreak. That's who should have gotten retail release.

The fact that the club did this deco means absolutely nothing about whether or not the character would/could have come out. It still can. This toy didn't, and won't, have any impact on that.

But the deco? No way that's ever happening at retail. If the club didn't do it, it probably would never exist at all (allowing for the slim chance than Japan might, it's still the slimmest of chances).

The fact that TFSS did Bluestreak has every bearing on the main line, because Hasbro will veto things that the Club wants to do if they plan on the same figure relatively soon

Accepting that argument, please note that it doesn't work the other way around. The figure you want at retail can still happen whenever Hasbro wants it to, and the fact that they gave FunPub permission--even by your argument--demonstrates that they didn't want to do it at this point in time.

Also, it doesn't necessarily follow that, had Hasbro planned to do a conventional Bluestreak, they would have vetoed Blue Bluestreak. Again, the specific deco matters. If it wasn't this deco, such interest as fans have in the TFSS figure would either not exist, or it would at least be fundamentally different.

Though to be honest, I wonder if psrhaps Bluestreak should have been an announced figure now. Seems like he has a lot of support. Maybe he woulda sold one more 4.0 or 5.0 if he swapped places.

An interesting argument. It's certainly possible. Hard to say.

(EDIT: Including spoiler tags for now, but I'd be extremely happy to be told I didn't have to mess with them any more)

[Zeedust]

Apparently the next figure really is taking a little longer to ship compared to the last few; the latest (7/19) update on the club page says "Hello Transformers FSS 4.0 Subscribers, here is your update on the next shipment that will go out by the end of July." (though it kinda changes the subject afterwards). I feel kinda dumb for missing that.

EDIT: And I feel even dumber now that I see RNSrobot just said that a few posts ago.

In other words, would you rather have a chance (even if it's a more expensive chance) to own this figure at all, or have no chance of any kind granted to us?

Depends on what we would have gotten instead.

[Sabrblade]

Apparently the next figure really is taking a little longer to ship compared to the last few; the latest (7/19) update on the club page says "Hello Transformers FSS 4.0 Subscribers, here is your update on the next shipment that will go out by the end of July." (though it kinda changes the subject afterwards). I feel kinda dumb for missing that.

In other words, would you rather have a chance (even if it's a more expensive chance) to own this figure at all, or have no chance of any kind granted to us?

Depends on what we would have gotten instead.

Another Bumblebee.

[Zeedust]

Depends on what we would have gotten instead.

Another Bumblebee.

If it was a Season 3 Prime Bee, I might take it. (Figures that the one black Bumblebee we'd have actually wanted is the one nobody ever made, doesn't it?)

[Sigma Magnus]

Apparently the next figure really is taking a little longer to ship compared to the last few; the latest (7/19) update on the club page says "Hello Transformers FSS 4.0 Subscribers, here is your update on the next shipment that will go out by the end of July." (though it kinda changes the subject afterwards). I feel kinda dumb for missing that.

In other words, would you rather have a chance (even if it's a more expensive chance) to own this figure at all, or have no chance of any kind granted to us?

Depends on what we would have gotten instead.

Another Bumblebee.

But what mold would he use...

[Sabrblade]

Apparently the next figure really is taking a little longer to ship compared to the last few; the latest (7/19) update on the club page says "Hello Transformers FSS 4.0 Subscribers, here is your update on the next shipment that will go out by the end of July." (though it kinda changes the subject afterwards). I feel kinda dumb for missing that.

In other words, would you rather have a chance (even if it's a more expensive chance) to own this figure at all, or have no chance of any kind granted to us?

Depends on what we would have gotten instead.

Another Bumblebee.

But what mold would he use...

The upteenth use of CW Dead End.

[durroth]

although we've already gotten it from the SS, the seeker head variant of the CW jet mold would have been nice.

Edit: By it I mean the mold, not the head

[TF_JW]

The 5th figure for TFSS 4.0 is now starting to show up. Who is it? And can you build your Thunder Mayhem yet?

I'm pretty sure you can already guess the answers

[RK_Striker_JK_5]

Hmm, more I think on it, my enthusiasm for this wanes. Yeah, would've been better for Bluestreak to be a retail release and save the free figure for someone else.

Quite bluntly, this figure would never have been released at retail. Ever. Certainly not in the US, and probably not even in Japan.

I think he meant just the character rather than this specific deco.

But it's the deco that makes this worthwhile as a club figure (or not, depending on your opinion). The fact that it's that character really doesn't mean a thing.

Yes, it does, since that's who I'm talking about. I mean Bluestreak. That's who should have gotten retail release.

Well, let's look at it from this way. While it would have been most preferable for the figure to have come to mass retail instead of from the Club, the alternative is for it to have never come out at all. If the Club had chosen to forgo the character choice they went with, and instead had gone with someone else entirely (perhaps another more niche character), would the complete absence of any possible chance of owning a CW Bluestreak have been more irksome or less irksome than the Club's giving current offering giving it a chance to possibly exist and be owned by some members of the fandom (even if that quantity of fans would be a smaller number than what a mass retail release would offer)?

In other words, would you rather have a chance (even if it's a more expensive chance) to own this figure at all, or have no chance of any kind granted to us?

And, yes, I ask this knowing full well that Takara could release their own version at a later point (as was the case with the BotCon 2007 Seekers getting Gentei! Gentei! counterpart releases), but at this present point in time, there's no sign or guarantee that Takara will do so (nor is there anything saying that they won't, but that also just shows that Takara doing their own is just not a relevant factor at this point).

Well, since I already own the guy in another form, several forms actually, hell yeah I'd take the risk! He's a 1984 Autobot. There's been plenty of them getting the spotlight. Save the exclusive option for the guys who don't get the love as much and simply release him at retail! Yes, it is that simple!

[Sabrblade]

Well, since I already own the guy in another form, several forms actually, hell yeah I'd take the risk!

I meant specifically as a CW version.

[RK_Striker_JK_5]

Well, since I already own the guy in another form, several forms actually, hell yeah I'd take the risk!

I meant specifically as a CW version.

With few exceptions, such as Victorion and Sky Lynx, I don't really buy CW figures. But seriously, just release the guy at retail! Save the exclusive slot for someone who hasn't gotten an Encore Reissue, Universe 2.0, Alternators/Binaltech, Masterpiece and god knows what else I'm forgetting.

[Sabrblade]

Well, since I already own the guy in another form, several forms actually, hell yeah I'd take the risk!

I meant specifically as a CW version.

With few exceptions, such as Victorion and Sky Lynx, I don't really buy CW figures. But seriously, just release the guy at retail! Save the exclusive slot for someone who hasn't gotten an Encore Reissue, Universe 2.0, Alternators/Binaltech, Masterpiece and god knows what else I'm forgetting.

You don't collect CW figures... yet you want this CW figure to come to retail?

Besides the obvious notion that CW having ended and been succeeded by Titans Return makes such a request unlikely anyway, what's the point for yourself personally in requesting a retail release for a figure you don't even want?

[RK_Striker_JK_5]

Well, since I already own the guy in another form, several forms actually, hell yeah I'd take the risk!

I meant specifically as a CW version.

With few exceptions, such as Victorion and Sky Lynx, I don't really buy CW figures. But seriously, just release the guy at retail! Save the exclusive slot for someone who hasn't gotten an Encore Reissue, Universe 2.0, Alternators/Binaltech, Masterpiece and god knows what else I'm forgetting.

You don't collect CW figures... yet you want this CW figure to come to retail?

Besides the obvious notion that CW having ended and been succeeded by Titans Return makes such a request unlikely anyway, what's the point for yourself personally in requesting a retail release for a figure you don't even want?

... To open up the free figure slot for a character that HASN'T gotten as many figures as this one!

[G.B. Blackrock]

Well, since I already own the guy in another form, several forms actually, hell yeah I'd take the risk!

I meant specifically as a CW version.

With few exceptions, such as Victorion and Sky Lynx, I don't really buy CW figures. But seriously, just release the guy at retail! Save the exclusive slot for someone who hasn't gotten an Encore Reissue, Universe 2.0, Alternators/Binaltech, Masterpiece and god knows what else I'm forgetting.

You don't collect CW figures... yet you want this CW figure to come to retail?

Besides the obvious notion that CW having ended and been succeeded by Titans Return makes such a request unlikely anyway, what's the point for yourself personally in requesting a retail release for a figure you don't even want?

... To open up the free figure slot for a character that HASN'T gotten as many figures as this one!

For my own part, I still insist that Blue Bluestreak isn't the same thing as Bluestreak, so this argument is pretty much a moot point, amounting to little more than "This isn't a figure I want. I'd rather it were something else." And, yes, that happens from time to time. There are a whole bunch of club figures (especially in these subscription services) that I don't like all that much, and I could have hoped for other choices. This is just how it works. Some figures are great. Others... not so much. But for the most part, for every toy I'm not as fond of, there's someone else out there who really enjoys it, and is glad that it exists.

And, again, this figure especially in this color scheme, but honestly, even if it were just a "standard" Bluestreak we were talking about wouldn't exist if the club weren't doing it.

If it's not the figure you'd have preferred, I can only hope that one of the other figures (there's still one more mystery yet to come, after all) is.

[ebonyleopard]

Bludgeon arrived in Erie, Pa this morning.

[grimdragon2001]

Got my Bludgeon today, he seems to have that same miss-assembly as Victorion though. Knees seem tight enough to hold him up without pushing the double joint in like on Onslaught or Hotspot though.

Thunder Mayhem is EPIC!!!! Looks so awesome, especially with those giant swords. I love how I can plug the combined Targetmasters into his shoulders.


And at the risk of sounding like a total jerk, here is the obligitory, I called it.