Wonderfest 2015 - Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide

First time in a great while that I'm exited for a MP figure! He look sooooo great! I wonder how much Ironhide will cost?

No matter, the very first second this dude's preorders pop up on Amiami, he'll be soooo preordered|

I am excited to getting an official Ironhide. I am a little disappointed in the hips/crotch being so large but it's ironhide, it's official, it comes with a battle sled that is not part of the vehicle, it comes with a ton of accessories, did I mention it's official. I am willing to overlook the "diaper" look for all those positives.

I will be getting at least one of the VooDoo figures so I can see differences in the molds...

why dont they just show the ratchet mold too? we know its coming.

donny1975 wrote:I am excited to getting an official Ironhide. I am a little disappointed in the hips/crotch being so large but it's ironhide, it's official, it comes with a battle sled that is not part of the vehicle, it comes with a ton of accessories, did I mention it's official. I am willing to overlook the "diaper" look for all those positives.

I will be getting at least one of the VooDoo figures so I can see differences in the molds...

To be fair, he always had the diaper look in the show.

I'm glad we finally get to see Ironhide in person and he's looking so good. I don't think I've been as excited for a Masterpiece as I am for Ironhide and the obvious Ratchet Repaint/Remould. Now where's more info on Primal?.

I'm surprisingly disappointed with Ironhide... nothing about it appeals to me. He's just so awkward looking.

Sigh. I do hope my opinion changes as more production photos make their way to us.

I love this figure soo much! I feel like he's a lot like Sideswipe in how he photography's badly. I bet in hand he'll blow our minds! If I had to nitpick one thing it would be I wish his bumper folded up. Other then that I think he looks great! I hope MP Hound & Jazz are coming in 2016...

griftimus prime wrote:why dont they just show the ratchet mold too? we know its coming.

Sure about that? If they are doing Ratchet, they'll have to think of something for that red cross. Believe it or not, that logo is trademarked by, who else, the Red Cross, and they've started enforcing it in the past 10 to 15 years. Look at the recent comics, you'll see adapted symbols on both shoulders.

Nice beer gut, Ironhide.

Or is he pregnant?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

griftimus prime wrote:why dont they just show the ratchet mold too? we know its coming.

Sure about that? If they are doing Ratchet, they'll have to think of something for that red cross. Believe it or not, that logo is trademarked by, who else, the Red Cross, and they've started enforcing it in the past 10 to 15 years. Look at the recent comics, you'll see adapted symbols on both shoulders.

Easy. No symbols at all, like for the reisues of the G1 toy.

And also, that what reprolabels are for!

I only have a handful of MP figs but this one is a dream come true.

He looks weird and stretched out... I am sorry to say but I will probably pass on this and wait a bit longer till they or somebody else get him right.

His torso is his only problem. His head, arms and lower body are good. His window should be vertically straight, not diagonal. His window should be his chest, above his abdomen. This MP figure has the lower part of the van front where his abdomen should be. That, combined with his diagonal window make him look obese instead of buffed.

Notice how he's supposed to have the window as chest and has lower metallic abdomen between chest and his 'diaper'.







The MP figure has the entire front covering his torso. As much as I like the Masterpiece line, I am thinking about skipping this one, like I skipped Megatron and the first seeker mold that had bad proportions and panels hanging on the legs. Luckily, they released a better seeker MP later on. I think this Ironhide is not good enough to be an MP. If only they made him fold away the lower part of the van front and make the window rectangle-shaped.

huryochagi wrote:His torso is his only problem. His head, arms and lower body are good. His window should be vertically straight, not diagonal. His window should be his chest, above his abdomen. This MP figure has the lower part of the van front where his abdomen should be. That, combined with his diagonal window make him look obese instead of buffed.

Notice how he's supposed to have the window as chest and has lower metallic abdomen between chest and his 'diaper'.







The MP figure has the entire front covering his torso. As much as I like the Masterpiece line, I am thinking about skipping this one, like I skipped Megatron and the first seeker mold that had bad proportions and panels hanging on the legs. Luckily, they released a better seeker MP later on. I think this Ironhide is not good enough to be an MP. If only they made him fold away the lower part of the van front and make the window rectangle-shaped.

While I agree with the abdomen part, the chest is simply drawn wrong as compared to the real life vehicle, I don't know why people religiously judge an updated G1 figure to an old cartoon that was hastily and sloppily drawn at the best of times. Even the original Ironhide toy had the sloped window if I'm not mistaken, because that was the vehicle it was based on; that's the trade off for getting licensed vehicles, the figure must conform to the design restrictions

Hellscream9999 wrote:While I agree with the abdomen part, the chest is simply drawn wrong as compared to the real life vehicle, I don't know why people religiously judge an updated G1 figure to an old cartoon that was hastily and sloppily drawn at the best of times. Even the original Ironhide toy had the sloped window if I'm not mistaken, because that was the vehicle it was based on; that's the trade off for getting licensed vehicles, the figure must conform to the design restrictions

Because of all the TF lines out there, Masterpiece is the one that has made a name for itself for taking the cartoon's animation models and making them into super show-accurate toy forms. To see a MP deviate from that ideal is bound to catch some questionable feedback. Updated designs are what CHUG toys are for, not MPs.

And as for the cartoon's inconsistencies, let us instead consult the original production model of the character's cartoon design:

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:While I agree with the abdomen part, the chest is simply drawn wrong as compared to the real life vehicle, I don't know why people religiously judge an updated G1 figure to an old cartoon that was hastily and sloppily drawn at the best of times. Even the original Ironhide toy had the sloped window if I'm not mistaken, because that was the vehicle it was based on; that's the trade off for getting licensed vehicles, the figure must conform to the design restrictions

Because of all the TF lines out there, Masterpiece is the one that has made a name for itself for taking the cartoon's animation models and making them into super show-accurate toy forms. To see a MP deviate from that ideal is bound to catch some questionable feedback. Updated designs are what CHUG toys are for, not MPs.

And as for the cartoon's inconsistencies, let us instead consult the original production model of the character's cartoon design:

I know that, but the masterpiece line has set the precedent of using licensed vehicles. This is where the inherent problem of this figure comes into play. Unless it uses a fake window for the chest, it cannot both have a rectangular chest window and the slanted silhouette of the vw (I believe) van.

Now are there ways around this? Maybe, I dunno, like had said: use a fake window, but this might be a problem for how it was designed, I don't know how it was engineered.

Unless one suffer from massive OCD, all I see when I compare the official toy to the concept art of the show model is PERFECTION.

So, how about you guys stop splitting hair?

I know! Also I think these pictures of Ironhide show that he's mistransformed. If you compare them to the first reveal, they didn't flip the panel down above his waist.

To those who gonna complain..........people.....this one is finally out and official at that! The mere fact it got a release is good enough. The next responsibility of fans is to make the release a runaway success to give TT the incentive to release more in the pipeline.

Next I foresee a E-Hobby or TTmall black release version ala Diacone/Encore/Bayformers black.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:While I agree with the abdomen part, the chest is simply drawn wrong as compared to the real life vehicle, I don't know why people religiously judge an updated G1 figure to an old cartoon that was hastily and sloppily drawn at the best of times. Even the original Ironhide toy had the sloped window if I'm not mistaken, because that was the vehicle it was based on; that's the trade off for getting licensed vehicles, the figure must conform to the design restrictions

Because of all the TF lines out there, Masterpiece is the one that has made a name for itself for taking the cartoon's animation models and making them into super show-accurate toy forms. To see a MP deviate from that ideal is bound to catch some questionable feedback. Updated designs are what CHUG toys are for, not MPs.

And as for the cartoon's inconsistencies, let us instead consult the original production model of the character's cartoon design:

I know that, but the masterpiece line has set the precedent of using licensed vehicles. This is where the inherent problem of this figure comes into play. Unless it uses a fake window for the chest, it cannot both have a rectangular chest window and the slanted silhouette of the vw (I believe) van.

Now are there ways around this? Maybe, I dunno, like had said: use a fake window, but this might be a problem for how it was designed, I don't know how it was engineered.

Japan (redundant ne?) Nissan VanetteCoach SGL was his original Dialcone vehicle mode.

SteveGo wrote:

divineforce wrote:badly disappointed in this designer, his is not worthy!

So...skip it.

Ditto. A lot of experts here coming out of the woodwork

Remember how everybody was questioning MP Bumblebee because of his realistic VW Beetle mode, He turned out to be a brilliant figure. Remember Magnus, everybody was moaning about him before release. He ended up being a great figure as well. so I don't see how Ironhide will be any different.

Hopefully when Ironhide gets released everybody's going to stop being such purists and see this as a decent toy but who knows maybe this toy won't be very good but I'll wait until a review has said how good/bad Ironhide is.

Remember how everybody was questioning MP Bumblebee because of his realistic VW Beetle mode, He turned out to be a brilliant figure. Remember Magnus, everybody was moaning about him before release. He ended up being a great figure as well. so I don't see how Ironhide will be any different.

Hopefully when Ironhide gets released everybody's going to stop being such purists and see this as a decent toy but who knows maybe this toy won't be very good but I'll wait until a review has said how good/bad Ironhide is.

munkimus prime wrote:Remember how everybody was questioning MP Bumblebee because of his realistic VW Beetle mode, He turned out to be a brilliant figure. Remember Magnus, everybody was moaning about him before release. He ended up being a great figure as well. so I don't see how Ironhide will be any different.

My opinion of Bumblebee definitely turned for the better, but Magnus... I still have my reservations.

Va'al wrote:Thanks to fellow Seibertronian Cyberpath, who has been raking the internet to separate the multiple sources of the images, we have a new selection of angles and shots from Wonderfest 2015 in Japan, showing off the upcoming Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide! Check out below the robot mode, the battle station and an unpainted vehicle mode, from Twitter users chromless, tomet_s, the Action Robo Facebook page and Weibo user 52Toys.

Looking good! just needs to do the fist in palm pose!

Sabrblade wrote:

padfoo wrote:On the other hand, I am really bothered by Ironhide's forearm in this photo, it looks like its hallow underneath. Previously I thought there was a panel there, but I don't see it now. Is it my eyes or is this poor cost cutting?

It looks instead to be one of his altmode windows instead of a hollowed out gap.

Thanks, I see that now thanks to hires pics!

Why does he come with a sad (sad the emotion that is) alternate face? Prowl was the one who had that face in TF:TM whilst smoke pored out of his mouth

Good grief. He looks like my drunk uncle that used to stumble around my house at thanksgiving. I'll pass on this gut busted sloppy drunk lookin mess.

Your Uncle is a transformer?

There should have been a hing point under the windshield that tucked in the lights and bumper behind the windshield to lean him out a bit. I also am not a fan of those hip panels.

SteveGo wrote:Your Uncle is a transformer?

He sure was when he got drunk.

...Does he include a "horrible and painful dying face" accessory?

For those interested in replicating his look in the Movie of course.

Hate to say it but these pictures have me less excited than the announcement photos. I don't think the angle that the pictures were taken helps much either.

Stephen S. wrote:

Welcome to seibertron.
Still, that's not a great way to introduce yourself.

At least, let's retry that image, shall we?

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-Kanrabat- wrote:

Stephen S. wrote:

Welcome to seibertron.
Still, that's not a great way to introduce yourself.

At least, let's retry that image, shall we?

And that's not a great way to welcome new people.

Let's try that again shall we? Maybe be helpful?

Stephen, for some reason, some image hosts don't want to work with our forum software, not sure why. Are you able to upload it to Photobucket at all? (We know that one works)

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Those new pictures confuse me ... in some he looks awesome, in others he just looks like an unfinished blocky prototype.

Yes he had a diaper normally, but not like that. It looks terrible. Much disappoint. Real fuckin skipped.

He appears to be slightly mistransformed in the above photos. His abdomen piece is missing.

Cyberpath wrote:He appears to be slightly mistransformed in the above photos. His abdomen piece is missing.

ironhide stock photo.jpg

I Agee! That's what I said earlier. I think Ironhide will be fine!

Cyberpath wrote:He appears to be slightly mistransformed in the above photos. His abdomen piece is missing.

ironhide stock photo.jpg

I Agee! That's what I said earlier. I think Ironhide will be fine!

Cyberpath wrote:
He appears to be slightly mistransformed in the above photos. His abdomen piece is missing.


ironhide stock photo.jpg

I Agee! That's what I said earlier. I think Ironhide will be fine!

I am thinking the same thing you guys! Those flaps at his hips (hopefully) can turn upwards to cover that gap and perhaps the upper torso needs to be slighty pulled downwards to click it tight. Those last pictures look a lot better... I preserve judgement...

the dude seems to have a few flaws.. but as we've seen time and again, he is surprisingly one of the hardest characters to render justice to.

i will take him warts and all.

Torneira wrote:I preserve judgement...

Your judgment shall be minty fresh!

Gearslide wrote:...Does he include a "horrible and painful dying face" accessory?

For those interested in replicating his look in the Movie of course.

That was more Prowl. Ironhide and Ratchet were just blasted a bunch, then we never saw his face when Megatron fired the "Such heroic nonsense." follow-up.

But yes he does come with it LOL

Torneira wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:
He appears to be slightly mistransformed in the above photos. His abdomen piece is missing.


ironhide stock photo.jpg

I Agee! That's what I said earlier. I think Ironhide will be fine!

I am thinking the same thing you guys! Those flaps at his hips (hopefully) can turn upwards to cover that gap and perhaps the upper torso needs to be slighty pulled downwards to click it tight. Those last pictures look a lot better... I preserve judgement...

Take a look at the picture that show the back up close. There is a vertical hinge. I think you're right about the panels moving out of the way. Except they swivel back rather than flipping up.

Hm, I don't think the hip panels are going anywhere. The earliest photos (from the projector screen) were the official stock photos that Takara uses on the box and the website.


This is what he will look like (only better in hand no doubt.)


And I believe the second expression face is a general battle/shouting face.

Cyberpath wrote:Hm, I don't think the hip panels are going anywhere. The earliest photos (from the projector screen) were the official stock photos that Takara uses on the box and the website.


This is what he will look like (only better in hand no doubt.)


And I believe the second expression face is a general battle/shouting face.

There is a hinge connection on the hip panels

Take two...

Did a quick 'shop to adjust some proportions. Just scaled the pelvis and "folded" the bumper and lights into the chest piece.