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Videos of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Deluxe Toys

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Sunday, January 29th, 2017 3:55PM CST

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Along with the images we have seen in the past week, Vietnam-based YouTube user Danh Le (the same source as the images) has shared two clips featuring the Premier edition deluxes Bumblebee, Berserker and Barricade from the upcoming Transformers: The Last Knight live-action movie toyline! You can check them both out below with some commentary from Danh, and join the discussion in the Energon Pub.



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Re: Videos of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Deluxe Toys (1855709)
Posted by Ultra Markus on January 29th, 2017 @ 4:28pm CST
berserker looks like crankcase only taller :???:
Re: Videos of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Deluxe Toys (1855739)
Posted by dragons on January 29th, 2017 @ 6:08pm CST
I take this as video review I don't need know articulation waste of space in video review figures don't have waist movement but legs neck and arms do move and wrist movement
Re: Videos of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Deluxe Toys (1855750)
Posted by Stuartmaximus on January 29th, 2017 @ 7:44pm CST
I still want to know how the hell he got a hold of those figures early in order to do a video review of them? & can he get a hold of Titans Return Trypticon early? or even this Planet Cybertron thingymajig?
Re: Videos of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Deluxe Toys (1855756)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 29th, 2017 @ 8:39pm CST
Stuartmaximus wrote:I still want to know how the hell he got a hold of those figures early in order to do a video review of them? & can he get a hold of Titans Return Trypticon early? or even this Planet Cybertron thingymajig?


The story said Vietnam-based, which is where they're produced nowadays.
Re: Videos of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Deluxe Toys (1855762)
Posted by william-james88 on January 29th, 2017 @ 9:27pm CST
Stuartmaximus wrote:I still want to know how the hell he got a hold of those figures early in order to do a video review of them? & can he get a hold of Titans Return Trypticon early? or even this Planet Cybertron thingymajig?

Same as always, they have an in at the factory. Its been happening for as long as I have been a fan. They usually risk it for higher profile figures, like this first wave of movie line figures. Dont know if they will do it for trypticon too. I know your eager, and I hope you get that fix the soonest possible. Cheers!
Re: Videos of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Deluxe Toys (1855779)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 29th, 2017 @ 10:19pm CST
Remember when we announced that Hasbro Toy Shop had that Last Knight Optimus Prime voice-changing helmet? Well, it appears that the helmet is now starting to show up online at other retailers. Toys R Us has now listed the helmet as "in stock" on their website, meaning that the helmet is now hitting major retailers.

If this helmet is something that interests you, you can head on over to Toys R Us or Hasbro Toy Shop and order yours today! The price on Toys R Us is $79.99 as well, meaning this is the normal retail price for the helmet. Order up, and let us know if you plan to buy one in the comments section below. And as always, stay tuned to Seibertron.com for all your latest Transformers News and Galleries!
Re: Videos of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Deluxe Toys (1855892)
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 30th, 2017 @ 11:03am CST
Barricade's forearms are different from what we've seen in the pictures before. :-?
Re: Videos of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Deluxe Toys (1855894)
Posted by Stuartmaximus on January 30th, 2017 @ 11:12am CST
william-james88 wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:I still want to know how the hell he got a hold of those figures early in order to do a video review of them? & can he get a hold of Titans Return Trypticon early? or even this Planet Cybertron thingymajig?

Same as always, they have an in at the factory. Its been happening for as long as I have been a fan. They usually risk it for higher profile figures, like this first wave of movie line figures. Dont know if they will do it for trypticon too. I know your eager, and I hope you get that fix the soonest possible. Cheers!



Yeah i think we're all eager pal + the fix won't come til NY toyfair, coz it certainly won't come at Nuremberg like you previously stated, but i still think that SOMETHING will be leaked out of Nuremberg! now...not necessarily transformers! but something.
Re: Videos of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Deluxe Toys (1856395)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on February 1st, 2017 @ 2:16pm CST
I'm starting to think more and more that the deluxe Bumblebee we've seen isn't supposed to represent the version we've seen in the trailers and in filming. The Camaro we've seen for most of Bumblebee's scenes so far has a black roof that continues onto the trunk lid, something this deluxe Bumblebee is noticeably missing. I know paint apps are becoming more minimal, but I don't think hasbro would leave that out. Maybe just wishful thinking, but I think Bumblebee may have a bit of a different look at the beginning of the movie that this figure is based on.
Re: Videos of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Deluxe Toys (1856406)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on February 1st, 2017 @ 2:37pm CST
We know for sure that Bee will look different in the movie. He goes back to his more Movie 3 design with the car door wings and the front of the camaro as the chest, so re-releasing this thing except worse is really strange
Re: Videos of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Deluxe Toys (1856427)
Posted by william-james88 on February 1st, 2017 @ 3:45pm CST
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:I'm starting to think more and more that the deluxe Bumblebee we've seen isn't supposed to represent the version we've seen in the trailers and in filming. The Camaro we've seen for most of Bumblebee's scenes so far has a black roof that continues onto the trunk lid, something this deluxe Bumblebee is noticeably missing. I know paint apps are becoming more minimal, but I don't think hasbro would leave that out. Maybe just wishful thinking, but I think Bumblebee may have a bit of a different look at the beginning of the movie that this figure is based on.

I think they will do th same they did for evasion mode prime, with BB having 2 forms in the film. One early one similar to his AOE form (hence why they rerelease the same toy) and then he will change into looking like what we see in the trailer and we will have a new toy for that too. So this rerelease of bumblebee might as well be called evasion mode bumblebee ;)
Re: Videos of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Deluxe Toys (1856683)
Posted by william-james88 on February 2nd, 2017 @ 1:15pm CST
By the way guys, an insider posted that regarding the Nuremberg fair, Hasbro has security super tight and not only should we expect no images, but it requires extra access to even get into the hasbro booth even if one is already invited to the show. So we wont be getting any reactions or descriptions either. The only thing we know is that they revealed all the movie toys they have to show. But we knew we would see these at Toyfair anyways.
Re: Videos of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Deluxe Toys (1856733)
Posted by william-james88 on February 2nd, 2017 @ 3:41pm CST
There will probably be no news coming from the Nuremberg Toy Fair due to Hasbro's beefed up security but we do have a new detail coming from Portugal since details regarding their offering of The Last Knight products were sent out today. TFW2005 member fallen_revenge translated the details that reveal a new class we had not heard of before: Armor Up Changers. These are the equivalent of three step toys which will have a battle mask gimick. No new images were revealed, that will have to wait until toy fair, in two weeks.

The same news also stated that Portugal will only be getting 6 deluxes instead of the scheduled 12 deluxes already listed in North America. One other detail of note is that their offerings include 0 leader class figures as part of the main line. This was originally speculated due to the absense of that class in the listings found on Amazon. We do know we are getting a redeco of AOE Leader Prime but it seems to not be part of the main line, same with the Masterpiece Movie toys.
Re: Videos of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Deluxe Toys (1856804)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 3rd, 2017 @ 12:56am CST
Could it be possible that the Premier Editions do not count towards the main line? I guess we'll find out soon enough. :-?
Re: Videos of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Deluxe Toys (1856806)
Posted by Emerje on February 3rd, 2017 @ 2:04am CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Could it be possible that the Premier Editions do not count towards the main line? I guess we'll find out soon enough. :-?

I guess that depends on how you define counting. The new Premier molds will most certainly be in the same style as the rest of the new figures in the line, but the packaging for the main line will probably be closer to the traditional stuff. I'm thinking we'll see the Deluxe Premier stuff officially announced just before Toy Fair (on Facebook or a random online magazine as they've done in the past) with the real line being previewed at the show.

What I want to know is if they'll still release Barricade in the main line? There's nothing particularly exceptional about his paint, articulation, or transformation from what we can see. Doesn't seem like it would be the same case as Prime First Edition versus the simpler main line. Since the Premier line will probably cost more it would be nice to have a cheaper alternative.

Emerje
Re: Videos of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Deluxe Toys (1856841)
Posted by OptimalOptimus2 on February 3rd, 2017 @ 7:41am CST
No leader class? :???: I wonder why. Is it because Hasbro has placed budget cuts for the TLK toylike, or because Hasbro has placed most of its budget on role-playing helmets and simple One-Step and Three-Step Changers?
Re: Videos of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Deluxe Toys (1856850)
Posted by Galva Prime on February 3rd, 2017 @ 8:30am CST
To those wondering about the Premier Editions, this is just the new name for Movie Generations, now that the Generations Prime Wars line will continue concurrently with the movie figures. People are misreading 'Premier' as 'premiere' and assuming they're a kind of first edition. There are listing for figures using code names of Amazon.com that are labelled 'Gen', but on Amazon.ca the same listings are labelled 'Pre'. Also when Shadow Spark Optimus and MPM Bumblebee were revealed at the event in Hong Kong the Hasbro marketing rep stated that Premier Edition is the 'movie accurate' line.
Re: Videos of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Deluxe Toys (1856856)
Posted by william-james88 on February 3rd, 2017 @ 8:49am CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Could it be possible that the Premier Editions do not count towards the main line? I guess we'll find out soon enough. :-?

They count, for sure. That first wave we found matches up with the listings of the mainline we found on amazon a month ago, with the first wave being 4 characters where one is Bumblebee.

I have no clue why they have to bother with the edition conotation, especially sicne the paint isnt premium and the name reffers more to the fact that these are released first instead of how they have superior quality.

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:No leader class? :???: I wonder why. Is it because Hasbro has placed budget cuts for the TLK toylike, or because Hasbro has placed most of its budget on role-playing helmets and simple One-Step and Three-Step Changers?


Maye they saw that the leader class doesnt sell too well and chose to instead concentrate on items that sold better and have better margins.
Re: Videos of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Deluxe Toys (1856867)
Posted by Galva Prime on February 3rd, 2017 @ 9:02am CST
OptimalOptimus2 wrote:No leader class? :???: I wonder why. Is it because Hasbro has placed budget cuts for the TLK toylike, or because Hasbro has placed most of its budget on role-playing helmets and simple One-Step and Three-Step Changers?


There will be Leader figures. Shadow Spark Optimus is Asia exclusive, but from previous info http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/the-last-knight-figure-listings.1096474/page-4#post-14238517, there will be others. No idea if they'll be exclusives or repaints only. Remember, this is info regarding Portugal only. On Amazon there are 12 deluxes and 6 Voyagers listed, so already more than's described here.
Re: Videos of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Deluxe Toys (1856868)
Posted by Galva Prime on February 3rd, 2017 @ 9:08am CST
william-james88 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Could it be possible that the Premier Editions do not count towards the main line? I guess we'll find out soon enough. :-?

They count, for sure. That first wave we found matches up with the listings of the mainline we found on amazon a month ago, with the first wave being 4 characters where one is Bumblebee.

I have no clue why they have to bother with the edition conotation, especially sicne the paint isnt premium and the name reffers more to the fact that these are released first instead of how they have superior quality.

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:No leader class? :???: I wonder why. Is it because Hasbro has placed budget cuts for the TLK toylike, or because Hasbro has placed most of its budget on role-playing helmets and simple One-Step and Three-Step Changers?


Maye they saw that the leader class doesnt sell too well and chose to instead concentrate on items that sold better and have better margins.


See my previous comment re it being Premier and not Premiere, and how it's the replacement for Movie Generations. Yeah, they're definitely not Platinum Edition quality but I'm guessing the label is used to distinguish the 'traditional' line from the simpler figures and encourage collectors.
Re: Videos of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Deluxe Toys (1856951)
Posted by RAR on February 3rd, 2017 @ 1:40pm CST
Definition of premier
1 : first in position, rank, or importance
2 : first in time : earliest

Definition of premiere
: premier
Origin and Etymology of premiere
alteration of 'premier'

(from websters online dictionary)

So what distinction are we trying to draw here if the word means "First" that is all I can really infer from it.

As has been previously implied there is nothing about these $20.00 deluxes that screams platinium or premium quality here. they seem to simply be out first.

I suppose someone could be using the word due to the movie connotation of film premieres

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But i'm still not sure if the first 4 or 6 deluxes will be boxed then they will change to carded toys - or if the whole line looks like this.

I'll tell you right now i'm not buying that repaint Bumblebee for £15.00 let alone for £20.00 I'm happy to buy a darker toned Slash or The dread or barry for £12.00 to £15.00 if I'm feeling the need to buy something in a few months.

But frankly It would be a better use of my money to spend that money on Takara movie toys. (especially Starscream and Ratchet) not to mention a lot is happening soon in 3rd party and premium-KO's that are a better bang for my buck.

But i'm fond of barry so I'll likely get him as soon as is reasonable.

I do wish they'd reissued dlx Soundwave though as he's a tricky fella to get in deluxe from - I can understand why they'd not do Dlx leadfoot due to expense of renewing the NASCAR licence - and he is supposed to be getting KO'd soon anyway in his unreleased sponsored deco to boot- so that is less of an issue.
Re: Videos of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Deluxe Toys (1856954)
Posted by william-james88 on February 3rd, 2017 @ 1:54pm CST
I dont even know why anyone would buy that bumblebee if they already have a previous BB using the ROTF design since that is basically what this one is going back to.
Re: Videos of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Deluxe Toys (1856957)
Posted by Galva Prime on February 3rd, 2017 @ 2:00pm CST
RAR wrote:Definition of premier
1 : first in position, rank, or importance
2 : first in time : earliest

Definition of premiere
: premier
Origin and Etymology of premiere
alteration of 'premier'

(from websters online dictionary)

So what distinction are we trying to draw here if the word means "First" that is all I can really infer from it.

As has been previously implied there is nothing about these $20.00 deluxes that screams platinium or premium quality here. they seem to simply be out first.

I suppose someone could be using the word due to the movie connotation of film premieres

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But i'm still not sure if the first 4 or 6 deluxes will be boxed then they will change to carded toys - or if the whole line looks like this.

I'll tell you right now i'm not buying that repaint Bumblebee for £15.00 let alone for £20.00 I'm happy to buy a darker toned Slash or The dread or barry for £12.00 to £15.00 if I'm feeling the need to buy something in a few months.

But frankly It would be a better use of my money to spend that money on Takara movie toys. (especially Starscream and Ratchet) not to mention a lot is happening soon in 3rd party and premium-KO's that are a better bang for my buck.

But i'm fond of barry so I'll likely get him as soon as is reasonable.

I do wish they'd reissued dlx Soundwave though as he's a tricky fella to get in deluxe from - I can understand why they'd not do Dlx leadfoot due to expense of renewing the NASCAR licence - and he is supposed to be getting KO'd soon anyway in his unreleased sponsored deco to boot- so that is less of an issue.


There are quite a few meanings for premier, and I'm guessing the ones Hasbro are going with are 'top-tier', 'highest', 'second to none' and of course 'prime'. It means 'first' but in the sense of rank or status etc. rather than first chronologically. Premier and premiere did originate from the same word, but they've gained slightly different uses. Kind of how skirt and shirt came for the same Norse word. The hotel chain Premier Inn isn't claiming to be the first ever hotels, but rather the best; the Premier League is the the football league for the top tier clubs.

Obviously Hasbro is really exaggerating the quality here, but I suppose compared to the one steps these are the best.

premier
ˈprɛmɪə,ˈpriːmɪə/
adjective
adjective: premier
1.
first in importance, order, or position; leading.
"Germany's premier rock band"
synonyms: leading, foremost, chief, principal, head, top-ranking, top, top-tier, prime, primary, first, highest, second to none, pre-eminent, main, senior, outstanding, master; More
ranking;
informaltop-notch, crack
"one of Britain's premier chefs"
of earliest creation.
"he holds the premier barony in the UK—created in 1269"
noun
noun: premier; plural noun: premiers
1.
a prime minister or other head of government.
synonyms: head of government, prime minister, PM, president, chief minister, chancellor
"the Italian premier"
(in Australia and Canada) the chief minister of a government of a state or province.


I can't see they'd be boxing the first wave of deluxes but not the rest. I'm guessing they're doing that to further distinguish them from the simpler figures. The AOE deluxes and power battlers got very easily mixed up on the pegs.
Re: Videos of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Deluxe Toys (1856974)
Posted by william-james88 on February 3rd, 2017 @ 3:00pm CST
Galva Prime wrote:
Obviously Hasbro is really exaggerating the quality here, but I suppose compared to the one steps these are the best.

Oh I get it now, its to distinguish from other more simple figures. That makes sense since it wasnt always obvious with AOE (like Strafe).

Thanks!
Re: Videos of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Deluxe Toys (1857000)
Posted by RAR on February 3rd, 2017 @ 4:30pm CST
This depresses me.
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Posted by Emerje on February 3rd, 2017 @ 9:17pm CST
Galva Prime wrote:To those wondering about the Premier Editions, this is just the new name for Movie Generations, now that the Generations Prime Wars line will continue concurrently with the movie figures.


That can't be the actual reasoning since Generations Age of Extinction ran concurrently with Generations Thrilling 30 in 2014. More likely they're just trying to avoid any possible retailer confusion this time around since it was a bad idea already the last time.

Emerje
Re: Videos of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Deluxe Toys (1857151)
Posted by RAR on February 4th, 2017 @ 12:36pm CST
I have this horrible thought despite the sales figures showing the "Generations" line is pretty popular that they might throw all 3 other mainline under the bus for what seems to be a line of partial repaints.

The really tragic thing is they had a real chance to redeem themselves here with something like a new mould really good 1970's Bumblebee Deluxe.

I'm frankly kind of perplexed what they are going to put in the "Legends" class movie toy releases.

Squeeks certainly - but what else ?

Now if it was me I'd be using the excuse of the 10th Anniversary and making smaller toys of Wheelie, Brains, Igor, Frenzy, The Kitchen Crew, even Alice.

For example they never made a Bunny-bot toy or Frenzy as a Mobile phone.

If they just make the same characters as usual in a smaller size I really won't see the point of that.

It would be fine for a gimic subline for example the scout size RID toys with Minicons and armour if they made something like that only with Movie characters - I'd be up for that.

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Anyone got any ideas what they might do with the Legends class (movie) line? as I'm perplexed.
Re: Videos of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Deluxe Toys (1857161)
Posted by Stuartmaximus on February 4th, 2017 @ 1:46pm CST
Re: Videos of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Deluxe Toys (1857163)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on February 4th, 2017 @ 1:55pm CST
It says "Autobots Stobotua", or just "Autobots Autobots" with one upside down.
Re: Videos of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Deluxe Toys (1857179)
Posted by Emerje on February 4th, 2017 @ 3:49pm CST
RAR wrote:Anyone got any ideas what they might do with the Legends class (movie) line? as I'm perplexed.


I imagine they'll just pad it with small versions of the movie cast just like every Legends (and Cyberverse) line before it. This isn't going to be like the Scout class from the earlier movies, this is going to blend a lot of different sized characters into one line.

Emerje
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Posted by RAR on February 4th, 2017 @ 8:01pm CST
Emerje wrote:
RAR wrote:Anyone got any ideas what they might do with the Legends class (movie) line? as I'm perplexed.


I imagine they'll just pad it with small versions of the movie cast just like every Legends (and Cyberverse) line before it. This isn't going to be like the Scout class from the earlier movies, this is going to blend a lot of different sized characters into one line.

Emerje


Yes that would make total sense for "Legion" class but for "Legends" not so much.

I'd rather have Legions in some case as the scale would make more sense - but Legion Dinobot would be nice - but then so would Legends.

If they did both sizes and treated the Legends class like Cyberverse Commander Class then I'm a happy pussycat (so to speak) .

I hope they play catch up with all the didn't do for AOE though with the Legions (if there is legions that are not just reissues/repaints)
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Posted by Emerje on February 7th, 2017 @ 12:42am CST
RAR wrote:
Emerje wrote:
RAR wrote:Anyone got any ideas what they might do with the Legends class (movie) line? as I'm perplexed.


I imagine they'll just pad it with small versions of the movie cast just like every Legends (and Cyberverse) line before it. This isn't going to be like the Scout class from the earlier movies, this is going to blend a lot of different sized characters into one line.

Emerje


Yes that would make total sense for "Legion" class but for "Legends" not so much.

Since when does scale ever make sense in Transformers. ;) After all the first two post-Legion Legends were Optimus and Bumblebee at the very same size. I don't really see any reason for that to change now.

Emerje
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Posted by SkyWarpt on February 7th, 2017 @ 1:03am CST
:-? Wondering if premier is more along the lines of Preview figs for 2007 flick or 1st editions for prime
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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 7th, 2017 @ 1:36am CST
Emerje wrote:
RAR wrote:
Emerje wrote:
RAR wrote:Anyone got any ideas what they might do with the Legends class (movie) line? as I'm perplexed.


I imagine they'll just pad it with small versions of the movie cast just like every Legends (and Cyberverse) line before it. This isn't going to be like the Scout class from the earlier movies, this is going to blend a lot of different sized characters into one line.

Emerje


Yes that would make total sense for "Legion" class but for "Legends" not so much.

Since when does scale ever make sense in Transformers. ;) After all the first two post-Legion Legends were Optimus and Bumblebee at the very same size. I don't really see any reason for that to change now.

Emerje


It's going to be the whole "Legends" vs. "Legions" debate all over again, huh? :(

The worst part is while Legion/Pre-DotM Legends Class is clearly defined as having small versions of characters of its main line, Legends Class isn't as clear cut, because for the most part it has the smaller characters of any given line, with smaller versions of larger characters mixed in. Then again, when it comes to dedicated molds the latter has been sporadic:

- Optimus Prime
- Starscream
- Megatron
- Gnaw (come on, at their current size they're little ankle biters!)

I don't know if I should count the Insecticons, as they're stated to be the size of their Diaclone toys. And Bumblebee is just a weird case feeling at home in both Deluxe and Legends.

SkyWarpt wrote::-? Wondering if premier is more along the lines of Preview figs for 2007 flick or 1st editions for prime


Apples and oranges: the "Preview" figures for 2007 and RotF were normal figures in a special first wave, while Prime 1st Edition had Generation-style designs, which was rendered moot for all purposes with Prime Robots in Disguise.

As explained before, "Premier" (not "premiere" as in "first") is mostly likely the name for the Generations-styled toys. It being called out on the packaging makes it easier to identify them from simpler toys of similar size. I still remember the stockers getting confused between Gen. Deluxe Class and the similarly-sized Power Battlers during AoE.
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Posted by Kurona on February 7th, 2017 @ 5:12am CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Emerje wrote:
RAR wrote:
Emerje wrote:
RAR wrote:Anyone got any ideas what they might do with the Legends class (movie) line? as I'm perplexed.


I imagine they'll just pad it with small versions of the movie cast just like every Legends (and Cyberverse) line before it. This isn't going to be like the Scout class from the earlier movies, this is going to blend a lot of different sized characters into one line.

Emerje


Yes that would make total sense for "Legion" class but for "Legends" not so much.

Since when does scale ever make sense in Transformers. ;) After all the first two post-Legion Legends were Optimus and Bumblebee at the very same size. I don't really see any reason for that to change now.

Emerje


It's going to be the whole "Legends" vs. "Legions" debate all over again, huh? :(

The worst part is while Legion/Pre-DotM Legends Class is clearly defined as having small versions of characters of its main line, Legends Class isn't as clear cut, because for the most part it has the smaller characters of any given line, with smaller versions of larger characters mixed in. Then again, when it comes to dedicated molds the latter has been sporadic:

- Optimus Prime
- Starscream
- Megatron
- Gnaw (come on, at their current size they're little ankle biters!)

I don't know if I should count the Insecticons, as they're stated to be the size of their Diaclone toys. And Bumblebee is just a weird case feeling at home in both Deluxe and Legends.

Also Shockwave; even though there's an obvious reason why he was that scale in the first place.
Re: Videos of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Deluxe Toys (1857599)
Posted by Emerje on February 7th, 2017 @ 7:15am CST
Kurona wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Emerje wrote:
RAR wrote:
Emerje wrote:
RAR wrote:Anyone got any ideas what they might do with the Legends class (movie) line? as I'm perplexed.


I imagine they'll just pad it with small versions of the movie cast just like every Legends (and Cyberverse) line before it. This isn't going to be like the Scout class from the earlier movies, this is going to blend a lot of different sized characters into one line.

Emerje


Yes that would make total sense for "Legion" class but for "Legends" not so much.

Since when does scale ever make sense in Transformers. ;) After all the first two post-Legion Legends were Optimus and Bumblebee at the very same size. I don't really see any reason for that to change now.

Emerje


It's going to be the whole "Legends" vs. "Legions" debate all over again, huh? :(

The worst part is while Legion/Pre-DotM Legends Class is clearly defined as having small versions of characters of its main line, Legends Class isn't as clear cut, because for the most part it has the smaller characters of any given line, with smaller versions of larger characters mixed in. Then again, when it comes to dedicated molds the latter has been sporadic:

- Optimus Prime
- Starscream
- Megatron
- Gnaw (come on, at their current size they're little ankle biters!)

I don't know if I should count the Insecticons, as they're stated to be the size of their Diaclone toys. And Bumblebee is just a weird case feeling at home in both Deluxe and Legends.

Also Shockwave; even though there's an obvious reason why he was that scale in the first place.

Let's not forget Hot Rod as well, for the same reason as Shockwave. Interestingly he's the only one of the larger characters that is a repaint of one of the smaller characters (while there are a lot of examples of the opposite).

Emerje
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Posted by Kurona on February 7th, 2017 @ 7:22am CST
Emerje wrote:
Kurona wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Emerje wrote:
RAR wrote:
Emerje wrote:
RAR wrote:Anyone got any ideas what they might do with the Legends class (movie) line? as I'm perplexed.


I imagine they'll just pad it with small versions of the movie cast just like every Legends (and Cyberverse) line before it. This isn't going to be like the Scout class from the earlier movies, this is going to blend a lot of different sized characters into one line.

Emerje


Yes that would make total sense for "Legion" class but for "Legends" not so much.

Since when does scale ever make sense in Transformers. ;) After all the first two post-Legion Legends were Optimus and Bumblebee at the very same size. I don't really see any reason for that to change now.

Emerje


It's going to be the whole "Legends" vs. "Legions" debate all over again, huh? :(

The worst part is while Legion/Pre-DotM Legends Class is clearly defined as having small versions of characters of its main line, Legends Class isn't as clear cut, because for the most part it has the smaller characters of any given line, with smaller versions of larger characters mixed in. Then again, when it comes to dedicated molds the latter has been sporadic:

- Optimus Prime
- Starscream
- Megatron
- Gnaw (come on, at their current size they're little ankle biters!)

I don't know if I should count the Insecticons, as they're stated to be the size of their Diaclone toys. And Bumblebee is just a weird case feeling at home in both Deluxe and Legends.

Also Shockwave; even though there's an obvious reason why he was that scale in the first place.

Let's not forget Hot Rod as well, for the same reason as Shockwave. Interestingly he's the only one of the larger characters that is a repaint of one of the smaller characters (while there are a lot of examples of the opposite).

Emerje

They did specify dedicated molds, so...
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Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on February 7th, 2017 @ 12:08pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Could it be possible that the Premier Editions do not count towards the main line? I guess we'll find out soon enough. :-?


Well, it is premier edition. I'd assume that it would at least get a name change after the movie gets released.
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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 7th, 2017 @ 1:43pm CST
SillySpringer wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Could it be possible that the Premier Editions do not count towards the main line? I guess we'll find out soon enough. :-?


Well, it is premier edition. I'd assume that it would at least get a name change after the movie gets released.


Not "Premiere" as in first. It's "Premier" as in "Elite". One letter makes all the difference.
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Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on February 7th, 2017 @ 2:12pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Could it be possible that the Premier Editions do not count towards the main line? I guess we'll find out soon enough. :-?


Well, it is premier edition. I'd assume that it would at least get a name change after the movie gets released.


Not "Premiere" as in first. It's "Premier" as in "Elite". One letter makes all the difference.


Hmm, well, it seems to me that Hasbro wouldn't want to confuse us like that, but whatever. I kinda hope it's just a play on words.

It also is not just "premier movie line" or something like that, but rather "premier edition". The word "edition" also makes me think this is not for the whole line. But who knows.
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Posted by Va'al on February 7th, 2017 @ 2:28pm CST
SillySpringer wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Could it be possible that the Premier Editions do not count towards the main line? I guess we'll find out soon enough. :-?


Well, it is premier edition. I'd assume that it would at least get a name change after the movie gets released.


Not "Premiere" as in first. It's "Premier" as in "Elite". One letter makes all the difference.


Hmm, well, it seems to me that Hasbro wouldn't want to confuse us like that, but whatever. I kinda hope it's just a play on words.

It also is not just "premier movie line" or something like that, but rather "premier edition". The word "edition" also makes me think this is not for the whole line. But who knows.


There's nothing really confusing about that difference, unless you have no knowledge the two words existing, or of any other language. Which might be the case for a lot of people, I realise, typing this, so fair enough.

As for the latter point, the 'edition' monicker may indicate a 'limited run' yes. But we'll see in a couple of weeks, with Toy Fair coming up. :D
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Posted by Emerje on February 7th, 2017 @ 8:47pm CST
Kurona wrote:They did specify dedicated molds, so...

And? I was only pointing him out as an oddity among the "larger" characters. Of all of them he's the only one that isn't a dedicated mold.

Emerje
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Posted by Overcracker on February 7th, 2017 @ 9:11pm CST
SillySpringer wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Could it be possible that the Premier Editions do not count towards the main line? I guess we'll find out soon enough. :-?


Well, it is premier edition. I'd assume that it would at least get a name change after the movie gets released.


Not "Premiere" as in first. It's "Premier" as in "Elite". One letter makes all the difference.


Hmm, well, it seems to me that Hasbro wouldn't want to confuse us like that, but whatever. I kinda hope it's just a play on words.

It also is not just "premier movie line" or something like that, but rather "premier edition". The word "edition" also makes me think this is not for the whole line. But who knows.


I would wager its going to be similar to what they did with the Premium Edition figures for the 2007 Movie Line. Where certain main line figures got "premium" paint jobs.

2007 Barricade (regular)
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2007 Barricade (Premium Edition)
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2007 Ironhide (regular)
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2007 Ironhide (Premium Edition)
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Posted by RAR on February 7th, 2017 @ 9:34pm CST
Oh poor Barry what did the bad man do to you !!!
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Posted by Kurona on February 7th, 2017 @ 9:36pm CST
So basically... wait for the Recon version? :P

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Posted by Emerje on February 7th, 2017 @ 9:46pm CST
Overcracker wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:It also is not just "premier movie line" or something like that, but rather "premier edition". The word "edition" also makes me think this is not for the whole line. But who knows.


I would wager its going to be similar to what they did with the Premium Edition figures for the 2007 Movie Line. Where certain main line figures got "premium" paint jobs.

Problem is, could you really picture these figures with less paint? If this is the premium version then how do they drop from there?

Emerje
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Posted by Overcracker on February 7th, 2017 @ 10:04pm CST
Emerje wrote:
Overcracker wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:It also is not just "premier movie line" or something like that, but rather "premier edition". The word "edition" also makes me think this is not for the whole line. But who knows.


I would wager its going to be similar to what they did with the Premium Edition figures for the 2007 Movie Line. Where certain main line figures got "premium" paint jobs.

Problem is, could you really picture these figures with less paint? If this is the premium version then how do they drop from there?

Emerje


There's always grey plastic.... Image

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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 7th, 2017 @ 11:30pm CST
...Or maybe they're just premier editions, or versions, of characters, when compared to the rest of the line that would have simpler transformations, like One-Steps and Power Battlers... :-? Compare with the Generations-like Prime First Edition vs. the simpler and gimmicky Prime RiD.
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Posted by RAR on February 8th, 2017 @ 1:22am CST
Kurona wrote:So basically... wait for the Recon version? :P

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He couldn't stop a pig in a passage.
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on February 8th, 2017 @ 6:10pm CST
Thanks to the Transformers Peru Facebook page, we have some new images of the upcoming Premier Edition Voyager class Grimlock! Grimlock is a new gray and silver deco of his Voyager Age of Extinction figure, and can be seen in-box here. Also included are some shots of Bumblebee and Berserker, and if one looks closely, they will see Slash pictures on Bumblebee's box. Check out the images below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!

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