Video Review: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29 Shockwave
Wednesday, March 30th, 2016 9:16AM CDT
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Posted by DeathReviews on March 30th, 2016 @ 10:04am CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on March 30th, 2016 @ 10:29am CDT
Cyberpath wrote:william-james88 wrote:Interesting, I just paid for this and here is the product name that appears on the bill:
Transformers Masterpiece MP-29 Bouei Sanbou Shockwave
They are really pushing that this is the cartoon version.
It doesn't mean "Sunbow" though...
"Bouei Sanbou" is 防衛参謀 -- chief of defence.
Or Military Strategist/Operations.....his old designation
Posted by bigcee66 on March 30th, 2016 @ 10:30am CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 30th, 2016 @ 10:34am CDT
Yeah, except the package shot looks like he has to go to the bathroom really bad.
And Amelie, I thought the Daca Toys Kronos was a good effort at a MP Skyfire, I'm sure the Takara people could improve on that design and release an actual MP Skyfire.
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 30th, 2016 @ 11:04am CDT
Posted by Autobot N on March 30th, 2016 @ 11:34am CDT
DeathReviews wrote:Come on, BBTS - you said it would be available in 'late March'.... You've got 24 hours!
Done.
Posted by galvatron00 on March 30th, 2016 @ 11:35am CDT
Look at you Autobot N, droppin' bombs!Autobot N wrote:Done.DeathReviews wrote:Come on, BBTS - you said it would be available in 'late March'.... You've got 24 hours!
Posted by Autobot N on March 30th, 2016 @ 11:39am CDT
itscramtastic wrote:Look at you Autobot N, droppin' bombs!Autobot N wrote:Done.DeathReviews wrote:Come on, BBTS - you said it would be available in 'late March'.... You've got 24 hours!
I would love to buy him now, but I don't have the cash for it at the moment. I really hope I can find a vendor at Botcon selling him for a good price.
Posted by galvatron00 on March 30th, 2016 @ 11:41am CDT
I'm sure you will, at least you won't have to pay shippingAutobot N wrote:I would love to buy him now, but I don't have the cash for it at the moment. I really hope I can find a vendor at Botcon selling him for a good price.itscramtastic wrote:Look at you Autobot N, droppin' bombs!Autobot N wrote:Done.DeathReviews wrote:Come on, BBTS - you said it would be available in 'late March'.... You've got 24 hours!
Posted by Autobot N on March 30th, 2016 @ 11:46am CDT
itscramtastic wrote:I'm sure you will, at least you won't have to pay shippingAutobot N wrote:I would love to buy him now, but I don't have the cash for it at the moment. I really hope I can find a vendor at Botcon selling him for a good price.itscramtastic wrote:Look at you Autobot N, droppin' bombs!Autobot N wrote:Done.DeathReviews wrote:Come on, BBTS - you said it would be available in 'late March'.... You've got 24 hours!
That much is true. And while the vendors' prices might not be great (I think, at least. I've never been to a convention, but I assume as such looking at collectible stores' prices), at least it's not eBay.
Posted by DeathReviews on March 30th, 2016 @ 12:20pm CDT
And as Death, I do enjoy loot.
Posted by galvatron00 on March 30th, 2016 @ 12:24pm CDT
Loot is nice but requires patience, which I lack. Something, as Death, I'm sure you have an abundance of!DeathReviews wrote:And as Death, I do enjoy loot.
Posted by william-james88 on March 30th, 2016 @ 12:24pm CDT
http://tfsource.com/masterpiece/mp-shockwave/
And MPs dont sell for cheap at conventions.
Posted by Autobot N on March 30th, 2016 @ 12:31pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:And MPs dont sell for cheap at conventions.
Thought so.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 30th, 2016 @ 12:39pm CDT
This is the box art for the figure. It is not in the "ARE ALL DEAD" pose:
And while it isn't as on the mark as it could be, his title of "Bouei Sanbou" is translated on the box as "Military Operations Commander"
Posted by galvatron00 on March 30th, 2016 @ 12:41pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on March 30th, 2016 @ 12:56pm CDT
Autobot N wrote:william-james88 wrote:And MPs dont sell for cheap at conventions.
Thought so.
I would very much doubt someone could get this item MISB at a covnetntion this year for cheaper than this:
Subtotal: 12,590 JPY
Shipping: 1,690 JPY
Points used: 380
Grand total: 13,900 JPY
That is $124 USD shipped (registered). I just paid that this morning and I will be getting this toy next week. That is 36$ less than the US online retailers. If anyone is planning on buying this toy this year and wants the best price, look no further than here: http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1
Conventions are good for used toys and older toys, especially people wishing to sell their collections. But for new toys and hot toys in demand, it is very smilar to e-bay. They actually up the price since they know those are hot items and thats the best place to find desperate fans looking for said hot items. The price gouging of Gen Arcee at conventions is disheartening.
Posted by Seibertron on March 30th, 2016 @ 1:52pm CDT
Posted by Seibertron on March 30th, 2016 @ 1:56pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Autobot N wrote:william-james88 wrote:And MPs dont sell for cheap at conventions.
Thought so.
I would very much doubt someone could get this item MISB at a covnetntion this year for cheaper than this:
Subtotal: 12,590 JPY
Shipping: 1,690 JPY
Points used: 380
Grand total: 13,900 JPY
That is $124 USD shipped (registered). I just paid that this morning and I will be getting this toy next week. That is 36$ less than the US online retailers. If anyone is planning on buying this toy this year and wants the best price, look no further than here: http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1
Conventions are good for used toys and older toys, especially people wishing to sell their collections. But for new toys and hot toys in demand, it is very smilar to e-bay. They actually up the price since they know those are hot items and thats the best place to find desperate fans looking for said hot items. The price gouging of Gen Arcee at conventions is disheartening.
As someone who has sold at conventions before, don't forget the high cost of just having a dealer booth. Some dealers are taking advantage of the scene, but others are just trying to make a buck after the cost of the booth space, product displays, paying employees, their own time just to be there instead of at their store or whatever, credit card processing fees, buying new products for their store, etc. Cost of business isn't cheap.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 30th, 2016 @ 2:10pm CDT
Posted by Big Grim on March 30th, 2016 @ 2:36pm CDT
Posted by Cyberpath on March 30th, 2016 @ 3:15pm CDT
Posted by DeathReviews on March 30th, 2016 @ 3:58pm CDT
There has still been absolutely no sign of MP Starscream anywhere. He's currently about $200-ish on Amazon. As popular as Shockwave is, you may as well get the foreign version because after scalping and all the other hassles that you're likely to go through while waiting for Hasbro to get this on the shelf? You'll actually SAVE time and money by just ordering right now from Japan or wherever.
From the photos, it looks like they carried over some of the flaws from G1 all the way to 2016. Looks like you STILL won't be able to jam the legs all the way up to seal the gaps near the gun body and the 'handle'. Hopefully the photographer was just lazy...
Posted by william-james88 on March 30th, 2016 @ 4:07pm CDT
DeathReviews wrote:I'm saving up for this one because after what happened with MP Soundwave, and more recently with MP Starscream's re-release, I don't think there's any way that any collector can hope to find this on the shelf at TRU or anywhere else that Hasbro may cut a deal with to distribute.
Thats if Hasbro even tries to release it. Hasbro doesnt like releasing transformers shaped as guns (which is odd since they own Nerf, but go figure). The rerelease of Classics Megs may be a sign that they are slowly coming around.
Posted by Insurgent on March 30th, 2016 @ 4:13pm CDT
This image/pose is way more awesome than it should be.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 30th, 2016 @ 4:16pm CDT
"TAXI!!!"Insurgent wrote:
Posted by Amelie on March 30th, 2016 @ 4:48pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Rodimus@ I think the point that amelie was making was that sky fire was too big to fit within the established scale...unless takara get bigger (with cost as well) to get scale right.
Thats pretty much it, yeah. Skyfire is just simply too big of a toy for Takara to grapple. Which is probably why the MP Devastator idea got simplified down into Combiner Wars, too.
Posted by william-james88 on March 30th, 2016 @ 5:00pm CDT
Amelie wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Rodimus@ I think the point that amelie was making was that sky fire was too big to fit within the established scale...unless takara get bigger (with cost as well) to get scale right.
Thats pretty much it, yeah. Skyfire is just simply too big of a toy for Takara to grapple. Which is probably why the MP Devastator idea got simplified down into Combiner Wars, too.
I think the scale we got in the end for the toys worked out ok. Looking at the generations line, keep the classics Optimus and Megatron as your faction leaders and leader Ultra Magnus and Jetfire work well enough.
Posted by Mr_Autobot411 on March 30th, 2016 @ 6:01pm CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on March 30th, 2016 @ 6:49pm CDT
Mr_Autobot411 wrote:dont care what anyone says, but lavanderwave here looks really cheap looking in that color. couldnt go darker takara?
PC images aren't always spot on. Wait for Ryan's images. More accurate.
Posted by fenrir72 on March 30th, 2016 @ 6:52pm CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on March 30th, 2016 @ 6:53pm CDT
Posted by Agamemnon on March 30th, 2016 @ 8:15pm CDT
Posted by bvzxa on March 30th, 2016 @ 10:23pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 30th, 2016 @ 10:27pm CDT
It's all in the lighting. Different light sources make the shade of purple look different. For example, this pic makes the purple look really dark and not so lavender:bvzxa wrote:The colors aren't the same as the early test shots
Whereas other pics make the opposite look true, giving the purple a light and pale appearance.
Posted by MGrotusque on March 30th, 2016 @ 10:58pm CDT
Great looking figure though. An absolute must have and it's engineering appears to be executed wonderfully. It's just that boring ass colour palate that kills it for me.
Posted by MGrotusque on March 30th, 2016 @ 11:34pm CDT
Call me crazy if you must. Lights and sound are what blew me away with Shockwave when i was a wee lad.
Posted by Fox Thiagarajan on March 30th, 2016 @ 11:38pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 31st, 2016 @ 12:03am CDT
Posted by MGrotusque on March 31st, 2016 @ 12:27am CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Regarding the complaints of his paint job being "bland," I think it kinda makes him even more of a Masterpiece, as it fits with his bland personality. Yeah, I know that the G1 figure was colored a sharp purple, but the character on screen in the cartoon was rather bland-colored himself. So it fits, even if it's not visually appealing. Just my opinion, though.
His personality is nowhere near bland. He's a cold calculating super villain with a vision for Universal domination.
I would think Soundwave more epitomises the embodiment of a "bland character" than Shockwave ever was. Soundwaves MP figure has a fantastic paint job with metallic paint and a deep rich sparkly blue which is the complete antithesis of the depth and profile of that character. If we're talking in cartoon context anyways.
They should have at least matched the G1 toy colour much like they did Soundwave and less the pale lilac, lavender and grey colorway they chose. On top of using clear plastic for the transclearant plastic is just insult to injury as far as i'm concerned. It could have at the very least been purple.
It just looks Brony to me. Nothing says "EVIL Decepticon" at all about the current colours shown.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 31st, 2016 @ 1:13am CDT
Yes, and that's his only character trait. He's single-minded and doesn't deviate from it. He's boring. Bland. I like Shockwave for the potential he has, not for what he has achieved so far. I liked him in the G1 comics, even though he wasn't used to his full potential.MGrotusque wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Regarding the complaints of his paint job being "bland," I think it kinda makes him even more of a Masterpiece, as it fits with his bland personality. Yeah, I know that the G1 figure was colored a sharp purple, but the character on screen in the cartoon was rather bland-colored himself. So it fits, even if it's not visually appealing. Just my opinion, though.
His personality is nowhere near bland. He's a cold calculating super villain with a vision for Universal domination.
Agreed on Soundwave. However, anytime there is discussion of a character, I immediately think of the G1 comics version, it's my default version to go to as it is what I grew up with. Sometimes I have to remind myself that not everyone is that way.I would think Soundwave more epitomises the embodiment of a "bland character" than Shockwave ever was. Soundwaves MP figure has a fantastic paint job with metallic paint and a deep rich sparkly blue which is the complete antithesis of the depth and profile of that character. If we're talking in cartoon context anyways.
Posted by fenrir72 on March 31st, 2016 @ 1:30am CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Regarding the complaints of his paint job being "bland," I think it kinda makes him even more of a Masterpiece, as it fits with his bland personality. Yeah, I know that the G1 figure was colored a sharp purple, but the character on screen in the cartoon was rather bland-colored himself. So it fits, even if it's not visually appealing. Just my opinion, though.
Yup. Let's all respect each other's opinions. Some see blue others red in a single object. Just natural.We're only human.
Your opinion on how bland Shocky was in the show really conflicted with his box bio/tech spec. Never realized he was also gunning for Meg's position. I wonder why they dropped that part off the script? Maybe two schemers would be too confusing?
Now if we combine both the Marvel and cartoon version (just gives me shivers to have an intellectual mass "murderer" with that Sark voice)........
Or maybe in another reality, Hasbro does a DBZ and re-animates the entire Season 1 and 2, fix the plot holes and inconsistent animation? And adds the neglected Shockwave personality
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 31st, 2016 @ 1:58am CDT
Yet purple is the combination of those colors.fenrir72 wrote:Yup. Let's all respect each other's opinions. Some see blue others red in a single object. Just natural. We're only human.Rodimus Prime wrote:Regarding the complaints of his paint job being "bland," I think it kinda makes him even more of a Masterpiece, as it fits with his bland personality. Yeah, I know that the G1 figure was colored a sharp purple, but the character on screen in the cartoon was rather bland-colored himself. So it fits, even if it's not visually appealing. Just my opinion, though.
Hence why I said he was wasted potential even in the original comics, where he got the most development. He was just the straight forward "the Decepticons will conquer and I will rule. Why? Because it's logical." He is 1 of my favorite comic characters as it is. Had he been given a bit more personality he quite possibly could have been the best Decepticon character ever. Imagine Shockwave's abilities combined with Starscream's desire for example. He would be nearly unstoppable and certainly a better leader than Megatron.Your opinion on how bland Shocky was in the show really conflicted with his box bio/tech spec. Never realized he was also gunning for Meg's position. I wonder why they dropped that part off the script? Maybe two schemers would be too confusing?
Yeah, very scary. Add his penchant for experimentation, and you have a comic book robot Hitler. Speaking of, I think originally he was kind of intended to be Megatron's mad scientist sidekick, much like Josef Mengele was to Hitler.Now if we combine both the Marvel and cartoon version (just gives me shivers to have an intellectual mass "murderer" with that Sark voice)...
With today's technology? I would love to see that! I might even watch the cartoon more often.Or maybe in another reality, Hasbro does a DBZ and re-animates the entire Season 1 and 2, fix the plot holes and inconsistent animation? And adds the neglected Shockwave personality
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 31st, 2016 @ 6:33am CDT
Posted by Evil Eye on March 31st, 2016 @ 6:34am CDT
Posted by Alpha Dominus on March 31st, 2016 @ 7:50am CDT
MGrotusque wrote:I also want sound effects. I think i may be the only person left that feels that sound effects are an integral part of the playability of a true MP Shockwave. That's a gimmick that should have carried over into the engineering of this release.
Call me crazy if you must. Lights and sound are what blew me away with Shockwave when i was a wee lad.
I wholeheartedly agree. Love this character and the toy. Even without this feature though and the lighter color scheme (which I know I'm in the minority here-I'm totally down with!)I look forward to displaying him with a certain 3rd party Megs.
Got my shipment notification this morning!
Posted by Insurgent on March 31st, 2016 @ 1:37pm CDT
I know he originally had sounds and lights, but I would honestly prefer a non gimmicky figure that looks perfect, doesn't have to sacrifice something for said gimmick and is a little cheaper. Heck I'd even prefer painted eyes over light piping on MPs so the back of the head doesn't have that transclearant window.
Posted by Mr_Autobot411 on March 31st, 2016 @ 4:31pm CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on March 31st, 2016 @ 6:52pm CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on March 31st, 2016 @ 6:58pm CDT
Delta Magnus wrote:I'll agree that the colours could be better, but I can't fault them considering they're cartoon accurate. That said, I'd love it if Takara did a toy colours version, with shiny silver chrome instead of grey and dark sparkly purple instead of lavender.
And they probably will together with the "Shack" version.