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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby Big Grim » Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:36 pm

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While nice enough, I dislike the really pale purple. All in all, I'm happy with my rather awesome Quakewave.
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Postby DeathReviews » Wed Mar 30, 2016 2:58 pm

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I'm saving up for this one because after what happened with MP Soundwave, and more recently with MP Starscream's re-release, I don't think there's any way that any collector can hope to find this on the shelf at TRU or anywhere else that Hasbro may cut a deal with to distribute.

There has still been absolutely no sign of MP Starscream anywhere. He's currently about $200-ish on Amazon. As popular as Shockwave is, you may as well get the foreign version because after scalping and all the other hassles that you're likely to go through while waiting for Hasbro to get this on the shelf? You'll actually SAVE time and money by just ordering right now from Japan or wherever.

From the photos, it looks like they carried over some of the flaws from G1 all the way to 2016. Looks like you STILL won't be able to jam the legs all the way up to seal the gaps near the gun body and the 'handle'. Hopefully the photographer was just lazy...
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:07 pm

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DeathReviews wrote:I'm saving up for this one because after what happened with MP Soundwave, and more recently with MP Starscream's re-release, I don't think there's any way that any collector can hope to find this on the shelf at TRU or anywhere else that Hasbro may cut a deal with to distribute.


Thats if Hasbro even tries to release it. Hasbro doesnt like releasing transformers shaped as guns (which is odd since they own Nerf, but go figure). The rerelease of Classics Megs may be a sign that they are slowly coming around.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby Amelie » Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:48 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:Rodimus@ I think the point that amelie was making was that sky fire was too big to fit within the established scale...unless takara get bigger (with cost as well) to get scale right.


Thats pretty much it, yeah. Skyfire is just simply too big of a toy for Takara to grapple. Which is probably why the MP Devastator idea got simplified down into Combiner Wars, too.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed Mar 30, 2016 4:00 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:Rodimus@ I think the point that amelie was making was that sky fire was too big to fit within the established scale...unless takara get bigger (with cost as well) to get scale right.


Thats pretty much it, yeah. Skyfire is just simply too big of a toy for Takara to grapple. Which is probably why the MP Devastator idea got simplified down into Combiner Wars, too.


I think the scale we got in the end for the toys worked out ok. Looking at the generations line, keep the classics Optimus and Megatron as your faction leaders and leader Ultra Magnus and Jetfire work well enough.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby Mr_Autobot411 » Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:01 pm

dont care what anyone says, but lavanderwave here looks really cheap looking in that color. couldnt go darker takara?

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:49 pm

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Mr_Autobot411 wrote:dont care what anyone says, but lavanderwave here looks really cheap looking in that color. couldnt go darker takara?

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PC images aren't always spot on. Wait for Ryan's images. More accurate.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby bvzxa » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:23 pm

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:27 pm

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bvzxa wrote:The colors aren't the same as the early test shots
It's all in the lighting. Different light sources make the shade of purple look different. For example, this pic makes the purple look really dark and not so lavender:

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Whereas other pics make the opposite look true, giving the purple a light and pale appearance.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby MGrotusque » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:58 pm

Yeah....he's incredibly bland looking. There's no "POP" to this colour scheme at all. He suffers from GPS which I affectionately refer to as "Grey Plastic Syndrome". That shade of Purple also leaves much to be desired. This release needs a FAR more dramatic colorway to put it over the top.

Great looking figure though. An absolute must have and it's engineering appears to be executed wonderfully. It's just that boring ass colour palate that kills it for me.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby MGrotusque » Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:34 pm

I also want sound effects. I think i may be the only person left that feels that sound effects are an integral part of the playability of a true MP Shockwave. That's a gimmick that should have carried over into the engineering of this release.

Call me crazy if you must. Lights and sound are what blew me away with Shockwave when i was a wee lad.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby Fox Thiagarajan » Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:38 pm

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Man, I am all about MP Shockwave. In regards to the shade of purple, I feel like there will be some type of repaint with this guy somewhere down the line. Maybe we get a darker purple later. :CON:
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:03 pm

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Regarding the complaints of his paint job being "bland," I think it kinda makes him even more of a Masterpiece, as it fits with his bland personality. Yeah, I know that the G1 figure was colored a sharp purple, but the character on screen in the cartoon was rather bland-colored himself. So it fits, even if it's not visually appealing. Just my opinion, though. 8-)
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby MGrotusque » Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:27 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:Regarding the complaints of his paint job being "bland," I think it kinda makes him even more of a Masterpiece, as it fits with his bland personality. Yeah, I know that the G1 figure was colored a sharp purple, but the character on screen in the cartoon was rather bland-colored himself. So it fits, even if it's not visually appealing. Just my opinion, though. 8-)

His personality is nowhere near bland. He's a cold calculating super villain with a vision for Universal domination.
I would think Soundwave more epitomises the embodiment of a "bland character" than Shockwave ever was. Soundwaves MP figure has a fantastic paint job with metallic paint and a deep rich sparkly blue which is the complete antithesis of the depth and profile of that character. If we're talking in cartoon context anyways.

They should have at least matched the G1 toy colour much like they did Soundwave and less the pale lilac, lavender and grey colorway they chose. On top of using clear plastic for the transclearant plastic is just insult to injury as far as i'm concerned. It could have at the very least been purple.
It just looks Brony to me. Nothing says "EVIL Decepticon" at all about the current colours shown.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:13 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Regarding the complaints of his paint job being "bland," I think it kinda makes him even more of a Masterpiece, as it fits with his bland personality. Yeah, I know that the G1 figure was colored a sharp purple, but the character on screen in the cartoon was rather bland-colored himself. So it fits, even if it's not visually appealing. Just my opinion, though. 8-)

His personality is nowhere near bland. He's a cold calculating super villain with a vision for Universal domination.
Yes, and that's his only character trait. He's single-minded and doesn't deviate from it. He's boring. Bland. I like Shockwave for the potential he has, not for what he has achieved so far. I liked him in the G1 comics, even though he wasn't used to his full potential.
I would think Soundwave more epitomises the embodiment of a "bland character" than Shockwave ever was. Soundwaves MP figure has a fantastic paint job with metallic paint and a deep rich sparkly blue which is the complete antithesis of the depth and profile of that character. If we're talking in cartoon context anyways.
Agreed on Soundwave. However, anytime there is discussion of a character, I immediately think of the G1 comics version, it's my default version to go to as it is what I grew up with. Sometimes I have to remind myself that not everyone is that way. :lol:
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:30 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Regarding the complaints of his paint job being "bland," I think it kinda makes him even more of a Masterpiece, as it fits with his bland personality. Yeah, I know that the G1 figure was colored a sharp purple, but the character on screen in the cartoon was rather bland-colored himself. So it fits, even if it's not visually appealing. Just my opinion, though. 8-)


Yup. Let's all respect each other's opinions. Some see blue others red in a single object. Just natural.We're only human.

Your opinion on how bland Shocky was in the show really conflicted with his box bio/tech spec. Never realized he was also gunning for Meg's position. I wonder why they dropped that part off the script? Maybe two schemers would be too confusing?

Now if we combine both the Marvel and cartoon version (just gives me shivers to have an intellectual mass "murderer" with that Sark voice)........

Or maybe in another reality, Hasbro does a DBZ and re-animates the entire Season 1 and 2, fix the plot holes and inconsistent animation? And adds the neglected Shockwave personality :x
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:58 am

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fenrir72 wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:Regarding the complaints of his paint job being "bland," I think it kinda makes him even more of a Masterpiece, as it fits with his bland personality. Yeah, I know that the G1 figure was colored a sharp purple, but the character on screen in the cartoon was rather bland-colored himself. So it fits, even if it's not visually appealing. Just my opinion, though. 8-)
Yup. Let's all respect each other's opinions. Some see blue others red in a single object. Just natural. We're only human.
Yet purple is the combination of those colors. :-P

Your opinion on how bland Shocky was in the show really conflicted with his box bio/tech spec. Never realized he was also gunning for Meg's position. I wonder why they dropped that part off the script? Maybe two schemers would be too confusing?
Hence why I said he was wasted potential even in the original comics, where he got the most development. He was just the straight forward "the Decepticons will conquer and I will rule. Why? Because it's logical." He is 1 of my favorite comic characters as it is. Had he been given a bit more personality he quite possibly could have been the best Decepticon character ever. Imagine Shockwave's abilities combined with Starscream's desire for example. He would be nearly unstoppable and certainly a better leader than Megatron.
Now if we combine both the Marvel and cartoon version (just gives me shivers to have an intellectual mass "murderer" with that Sark voice)...
Yeah, very scary. Add his penchant for experimentation, and you have a comic book robot Hitler. Speaking of, I think originally he was kind of intended to be Megatron's mad scientist sidekick, much like Josef Mengele was to Hitler.
Or maybe in another reality, Hasbro does a DBZ and re-animates the entire Season 1 and 2, fix the plot holes and inconsistent animation? And adds the neglected Shockwave personality :x
With today's technology? I would love to see that! I might even watch the cartoon more often. :lol:
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:33 am

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What about the IDW version? He became a threat big enough that megs and prime had to team up to take him down, and he killed bumblebee (I'll let that one sink in). He was only brought down because of megatron doing the most illogical thing he could think of that broke shockwaves mind, autobranding himself.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave Discussion Thread

Postby Evil Eye » Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:34 am

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I'll agree that the colours could be better, but I can't fault them considering they're cartoon accurate. That said, I'd love it if Takara did a toy colours version, with shiny silver chrome instead of grey and dark sparkly purple instead of lavender.
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