Video Demo of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG43 Dinosaurer (Trypticon)

william-james88 wrote:Really odd how takara didnt go with the toon accurate darker grey for their trypticon. Looks the same as Hasbro's instead.

Insurgent wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Really odd how takara didnt go with the toon accurate darker grey for their trypticon. Looks the same as Hasbro's instead.

Maybe it's the same as Shockwave/Galvatron colours always being a bit lighter?

Sigma Magnus wrote:That shade of purple is show accurate?

Sigma Magnus wrote:That shade of purple is show accurate?

Sabrblade wrote:

Sigma Magnus wrote:That shade of purple is show accurate?

Only in certain shots.

Ultra Markus wrote:trypticon seems a tad shorter than metroplex

Kurona wrote:It makes sense that he's a little shorter, assuming all Titans have the same amount of plastic and bulk. There was no way he was ever gonna be bigger, that's for sure.

Kurona wrote:Right, so, someone with both toys help me out here with this extremely pedantic point.

I've been looking at CW/Legends Ultra Magnus and Legends Ginrai for absolutely ages, trying to see if there's any piece Ginrai kept from Magnus. Even pieces as minor and unnoticeable as the thighs and hands seem to be completely new.

But the only pieces that I think they share... would be their wheels. I'm looking at them, and I think they are the same mold. Can someone with both toys confirm? This is an absolutely insane retool.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Kurona wrote:Right, so, someone with both toys help me out here with this extremely pedantic point.

I've been looking at CW/Legends Ultra Magnus and Legends Ginrai for absolutely ages, trying to see if there's any piece Ginrai kept from Magnus. Even pieces as minor and unnoticeable as the thighs and hands seem to be completely new.

But the only pieces that I think they share... would be their wheels. I'm looking at them, and I think they are the same mold. Can someone with both toys confirm? This is an absolutely insane retool.

I think the circular plastic piece that is part of the cab/trailer connection is the same

Sabrblade wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:trypticon seems a tad shorter than metroplex

He's 20 inches tall while Metroplex was 24 inches tall.

Ultra Markus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:trypticon seems a tad shorter than metroplex

He's 20 inches tall while Metroplex was 24 inches tall.

thats too bad, even the g1 toy was taller than g1 metroplex and the in the cartoon they were about the same height, ah well, hes still bretty danm big

Sabrblade wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:trypticon seems a tad shorter than metroplex

He's 20 inches tall while Metroplex was 24 inches tall.

thats too bad, even the g1 toy was taller than g1 metroplex and the in the cartoon they were about the same height, ah well, hes still bretty danm big

Biggest Decepticon toy ever.

Sabrblade wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:trypticon seems a tad shorter than metroplex

He's 20 inches tall while Metroplex was 24 inches tall.

thats too bad, even the g1 toy was taller than g1 metroplex and the in the cartoon they were about the same height, ah well, hes still bretty danm big

Biggest Decepticon toy ever.

Sabrblade wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Kurona wrote:Right, so, someone with both toys help me out here with this extremely pedantic point.

I've been looking at CW/Legends Ultra Magnus and Legends Ginrai for absolutely ages, trying to see if there's any piece Ginrai kept from Magnus. Even pieces as minor and unnoticeable as the thighs and hands seem to be completely new.

But the only pieces that I think they share... would be their wheels. I'm looking at them, and I think they are the same mold. Can someone with both toys confirm? This is an absolutely insane retool.

I think the circular plastic piece that is part of the cab/trailer connection is the same

Yeah, I asked Powered Convoy about this awhile back and he confirmed that the only unchanged parts shared between Ultra Magnus and Super Ginrai are indeed just the wheels and that little circular piece. If it weren't for Powermaster Optimus Prime acting as the middleman between these two, I'd think they were completely separate molds using shared engineering (a la G2 Smokescreen and Energon Starscream) with a few shared parts (a la TR Blurr and Chromedome), instead of one being a heavy retool of another heavy retool of the other.

Sabrblade wrote:I'd think they were completely separate molds using shared engineering (a la G2 Smokescreen and Energon Starscream) with a few shared parts (a la TR Blurr and Chromedome), instead of one being a heavy retool of another heavy retool of the other.

Kurona wrote:Right, so, someone with both toys help me out here with this extremely pedantic point.

I've been looking at CW/Legends Ultra Magnus and Legends Ginrai for absolutely ages, trying to see if there's any piece Ginrai kept from Magnus. Even pieces as minor and unnoticeable as the thighs and hands seem to be completely new.

But the only pieces that I think they share... would be their wheels. I'm looking at them, and I think they are the same mold. Can someone with both toys confirm? This is an absolutely insane retool.

william-james88 wrote:

Nexus Knight wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Kurona wrote:Phew, I'm glad they showed him with that calculator. It's the perfect scale to judge him against.

As I said before, that 10 Yen coin is roughly the size of a quarter.

Let the dude be snarky, yo.

This beast is amazingly beautiful. TB it's 's, though... never have been willing to ship overseas for a product I can get hear, cheaper.

Well your in luck because so far it looks like this beautiful beast will look very similar coming from Hasbro. so much so that there is still debate over whether or not the toy in these images is indeed the Takara version or the hasbro version.

Wolfman Jake wrote:September is still a good 5 months away. It's likely Legends Trypticon isn't even in production yet. I'd bet Takara is still finalizing their plastic colors and paint apps for their version. They want to build the hype up now, though, so the enthusiasm for Legends doesn't die off during the short hiatus it'll take to squeeze in the new movie toys this summer. Hence, they're just borrowing the Hasbro version of Trypticon to show off to their fans what is in store with a product that, in all honesty, still looks fantastic no matter what personal touches Takara will add to it before they release it.

william-james88 wrote:Thanks Kurona, the video that showcased Legends Dinosaurer also has that part left unpainted. So these are indeed two different releases that are nearly similar with Hasbro's having a bit more paint.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:I'd think they were completely separate molds using shared engineering (a la G2 Smokescreen and Energon Starscream) with a few shared parts (a la TR Blurr and Chromedome), instead of one being a heavy retool of another heavy retool of the other.

I never liked that comparison to Smokescreen and Starscream, since the intention isnt there and that makes a big difference. Its more of a coincidence rather than Hasbro cheapening out by reusing a design in some way.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:I'd think they were completely separate molds using shared engineering (a la G2 Smokescreen and Energon Starscream) with a few shared parts (a la TR Blurr and Chromedome), instead of one being a heavy retool of another heavy retool of the other.

I never liked that comparison to Smokescreen and Starscream, since the intention isnt there and that makes a big difference. Its more of a coincidence rather than Hasbro cheapening out by reusing a design in some way.

Well, Hasbro did reuse the G2 Smokescreen transformation scheme twice more for both 2010 Terradive and the FOC Seeker mold, so who's to say that Energon Starscream wasn't also a deliberate but more refining reuse of that transformation?

Kurona wrote:Looking at it closer, Takara Trypticon also seems to be missing yellow detailing on the front of his foot present on the Hasbro version. Looks like stickers on the Hasbro version though.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Swapping out some of the stickers for actual paint apps, even if the detailing turns out to be the same, would be a major selling point for Takara's version of Trypticon. Hasbro's sticker implementation hasn't exactly been inspiring confidence of late.

william-james88 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Swapping out some of the stickers for actual paint apps, even if the detailing turns out to be the same, would be a major selling point for Takara's version of Trypticon. Hasbro's sticker implementation hasn't exactly been inspiring confidence of late.

A swap would be nice, but we know thats not happening since Takara doesnt have extra paint where Hasbro has stickers, instead its left bare.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Swapping out some of the stickers for actual paint apps, even if the detailing turns out to be the same, would be a major selling point for Takara's version of Trypticon. Hasbro's sticker implementation hasn't exactly been inspiring confidence of late.

A swap would be nice, but we know thats not happening since Takara doesnt have extra paint where Hasbro has stickers, instead its left bare.

I think it was said somewhere that Takara's toy will come with a sticker sheet.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Swapping out some of the stickers for actual paint apps, even if the detailing turns out to be the same, would be a major selling point for Takara's version of Trypticon. Hasbro's sticker implementation hasn't exactly been inspiring confidence of late.

A swap would be nice, but we know thats not happening since Takara doesnt have extra paint where Hasbro has stickers, instead its left bare.

I think it was said somewhere that Takara's toy will come with a sticker sheet.

Takara's Metroplex also came with a sticker sheet, though it was edited compared to Hasbro's releases. There were fewer stickers overall, some of which were unique to Takara's offering. Takara's Metroplex also included more and different paint applications compared to the Hasbro releases. I'm not sure how or if the sticker sheets differ among the Hasbro versions and the Takara version of Fortress Maximus, though. They could be identical, unlike what was done with Metroplex. I could see things going either way with Trypticon.

Sabrblade wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Kurona wrote:Right, so, someone with both toys help me out here with this extremely pedantic point.

I've been looking at CW/Legends Ultra Magnus and Legends Ginrai for absolutely ages, trying to see if there's any piece Ginrai kept from Magnus. Even pieces as minor and unnoticeable as the thighs and hands seem to be completely new.

But the only pieces that I think they share... would be their wheels. I'm looking at them, and I think they are the same mold. Can someone with both toys confirm? This is an absolutely insane retool.

I think the circular plastic piece that is part of the cab/trailer connection is the same

Yeah, I asked Powered Convoy about this awhile back and he confirmed that the only unchanged parts shared between Ultra Magnus and Super Ginrai are indeed just the wheels and that little circular piece. If it weren't for Powermaster Optimus Prime acting as the middleman between these two, I'd think they were completely separate molds using shared engineering (a la G2 Smokescreen and Energon Starscream) with a few shared parts (a la TR Blurr and Chromedome), instead of one being a heavy retool of another heavy retool of the other.

fenrir72 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Swapping out some of the stickers for actual paint apps, even if the detailing turns out to be the same, would be a major selling point for Takara's version of Trypticon. Hasbro's sticker implementation hasn't exactly been inspiring confidence of late.

A swap would be nice, but we know thats not happening since Takara doesnt have extra paint where Hasbro has stickers, instead its left bare.

I think it was said somewhere that Takara's toy will come with a sticker sheet.

Takara's Metroplex also came with a sticker sheet, though it was edited compared to Hasbro's releases. There were fewer stickers overall, some of which were unique to Takara's offering. Takara's Metroplex also included more and different paint applications compared to the Hasbro releases. I'm not sure how or if the sticker sheets differ among the Hasbro versions and the Takara version of Fortress Maximus, though. They could be identical, unlike what was done with Metroplex. I could see things going either way with Trypticon.

Takara vs Hb?

Their decal operations really differed from each other. Same same is for Dinosaurer vs Trypticon. More or less. even the plastic coloration will differ.

As for Hbs decal operations, let's just say I'm leaning more to the JP style.

Kurona wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Swapping out some of the stickers for actual paint apps, even if the detailing turns out to be the same, would be a major selling point for Takara's version of Trypticon. Hasbro's sticker implementation hasn't exactly been inspiring confidence of late.

A swap would be nice, but we know thats not happening since Takara doesnt have extra paint where Hasbro has stickers, instead its left bare.

I think it was said somewhere that Takara's toy will come with a sticker sheet.

Takara's Metroplex also came with a sticker sheet, though it was edited compared to Hasbro's releases. There were fewer stickers overall, some of which were unique to Takara's offering. Takara's Metroplex also included more and different paint applications compared to the Hasbro releases. I'm not sure how or if the sticker sheets differ among the Hasbro versions and the Takara version of Fortress Maximus, though. They could be identical, unlike what was done with Metroplex. I could see things going either way with Trypticon.

Takara vs Hb?

Their decal operations really differed from each other. Same same is for Dinosaurer vs Trypticon. More or less. even the plastic coloration will differ.

As for Hbs decal operations, let's just say I'm leaning more to the JP style.

Well, as far as can be seen; the only differences between Hasbro and Takara for this toy are so minor the two are nigh-indistinguishable. Or is there something else you've noticed?

fenrir72 wrote:And if we base the most recent, Metroplex vs Metroflex, The latter looks more scifi unlike the former which was a bit kiddie.

Though in the end, personal preference for the collector at hand.

fenrir72 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Swapping out some of the stickers for actual paint apps, even if the detailing turns out to be the same, would be a major selling point for Takara's version of Trypticon. Hasbro's sticker implementation hasn't exactly been inspiring confidence of late.

A swap would be nice, but we know thats not happening since Takara doesnt have extra paint where Hasbro has stickers, instead its left bare.

I think it was said somewhere that Takara's toy will come with a sticker sheet.

Takara's Metroplex also came with a sticker sheet, though it was edited compared to Hasbro's releases. There were fewer stickers overall, some of which were unique to Takara's offering. Takara's Metroplex also included more and different paint applications compared to the Hasbro releases. I'm not sure how or if the sticker sheets differ among the Hasbro versions and the Takara version of Fortress Maximus, though. They could be identical, unlike what was done with Metroplex. I could see things going either way with Trypticon.

Takara vs Hb?

Their decal operations really differed from each other. Same same is for Dinosaurer vs Trypticon. More or less. even the plastic coloration will differ.

As for Hbs decal operations, let's just say I'm leaning more to the JP style.

Well, as far as can be seen; the only differences between Hasbro and Takara for this toy are so minor the two are nigh-indistinguishable. Or is there something else you've noticed?

Years of experience K! Only time when Takara's decal operations failed was during their Prime versions.

And if we base the most recent, Metroplex vs Metroflex, The latter looks more scifi unlike the former which was a bit kiddie.

Though in the end, personal preference for the collector at hand.

Kurona wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Swapping out some of the stickers for actual paint apps, even if the detailing turns out to be the same, would be a major selling point for Takara's version of Trypticon. Hasbro's sticker implementation hasn't exactly been inspiring confidence of late.

A swap would be nice, but we know thats not happening since Takara doesnt have extra paint where Hasbro has stickers, instead its left bare.

I think it was said somewhere that Takara's toy will come with a sticker sheet.

Takara's Metroplex also came with a sticker sheet, though it was edited compared to Hasbro's releases. There were fewer stickers overall, some of which were unique to Takara's offering. Takara's Metroplex also included more and different paint applications compared to the Hasbro releases. I'm not sure how or if the sticker sheets differ among the Hasbro versions and the Takara version of Fortress Maximus, though. They could be identical, unlike what was done with Metroplex. I could see things going either way with Trypticon.

Takara vs Hb?

Their decal operations really differed from each other. Same same is for Dinosaurer vs Trypticon. More or less. even the plastic coloration will differ.

As for Hbs decal operations, let's just say I'm leaning more to the JP style.

Well, as far as can be seen; the only differences between Hasbro and Takara for this toy are so minor the two are nigh-indistinguishable. Or is there something else you've noticed?

Years of experience K! Only time when Takara's decal operations failed was during their Prime versions.

And if we base the most recent, Metroplex vs Metroflex, The latter looks more scifi unlike the former which was a bit kiddie.

Though in the end, personal preference for the collector at hand.

It's just that precedence simply doesn't seem to have a role here when we know exactly what both look like - and that we know they have extremely minuscule differences. Unless you really don't want that little semi-circle on Trypticon's missile assembly coloured grey, there's no clear advantage to the Takara version this time around I'm afraid.

Nemesis Destron wrote:How much longer can we expect to see the next wave already?

fenrir72 wrote:

Nemesis Destron wrote:How much longer can we expect to see the next wave already?

Besides the big lizard I'm hoping for a Takara Overlord and Sixshot proto image. Da'ng, what's taking so long! (Yeah, the upcoming movie..mega bummer!)