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Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 8th, 2015 @ 1:45am CDT

Wow, galvatron looks to be about as tall as defensor/bruticus' leg is long, that's substantially smalle than any pic makes him out to be :shock:

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Posted by Generator_G1 on October 8th, 2015 @ 1:51am CDT

Just reposting the Transmissions podcast rumor list and bolded the confirmed ones based on the latest news. Hope to see more news confirmed tomorrow.

Episode 114-116 of the Transmissions podcast, according to the hosts, has had numerous leaked images sent to them of the upcoming Titan Wars line.

TransMissions Episode 116 - SDCC Highs and Lows | TransMissions

Here is a breakdown of the news of the leaks so far, take with a grain of salt, since they won't publish the pictures to the public.

Titan Wars will be heavy with Headmasters, base gimmicks and cassette.

Figures will include:

1. Leader Powermaster Optimus Prime, heavy remold of Combiner Wars Leader Ultra Magnus. This will be a Headmaster/Powermaster.
2. Soundwave, headmaster, a heavy remold of Titan Wars Blaster, alt modes include base and a ipod hifi type mode.
3. Legends Eject. Alt modes include the tablet mode we saw on upcoming Legends Buzzsaw and another tank.
4. Legends Stripes. Tiger mode looks a lot like Steeljaw, but different colors.

--

Rumors for 7/31/2015

1. We have confirmation that Blaster is Leader Class. We also have word that Leader Class Optimus Prime's head will turn into a Ginrai.
2. It does not look like Cerebros will have a vehicle alt mode (perhaps a base alternate mode?).
3. You can expect the other Headmasters to be released in Voyager Class like Brainstorm, and the heads for all the Titan Wars Headmasters will be compatible with Generations Brainstorm. They will all come with a small beast mode partner who becomes a vehicle the head can ride.
4. For the Deluxes in Titan Wars, expect the 1986 movie robots in Cybertronian alt modes.

--

Rumors for 8/7/2015

1. Titan Wars will have a Legends class Rewind, Rumble and Frenzy.
2. Titan Wars will have a Headmaster Galvatron, size class unconfirmed.

--

Rumors for 8/14/2015

This week's Transmissions Titan War leaks.
1. Titan Wars Headmaster Galvatron will NOT be a remold of Combiner Wars Leader Megatron. Its form is based on G1 Galvatron toy and IDW Spotlight Galvatron.
2. The "Deluxes" in Titan Wars will perhaps be larger and more complex than recent Deluxes, possibly with a larger price point more like a Voyager.
3. The small partners that come with the figures for Titan Wars will be called "Titan Masters".

--

Rumors for 8/21/2015

Just the one piece of news/rumor for this week.

1. There will be a Titan Wars Headmaster Sentinel Prime. He will be a Headmaster. His colors are based on the WFC Sentinel Prime. Size class and alt mode unknown.

--

Rumors for 8/28/2015

1. There will be a Titan Wars Alpha Trion toy. Size class unknown. It seems to have beast mode kibble on it. Possibly a triple changer with beast and ship alt modes.
2. Upcoming Headmasters will include Brainstorm (may or may not be a reuse of the Voyager Generations mold), Chromedome, Hardhead, Highbrow, Nightbeat, Siren, Horribull and Skullcruncher.
3. Upcoming Deluxe 1986 movie accurate figures will include Scourge and Blurr.

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Rumors for 9/4/2015

1. Titan Wars Headmaster Galvatron and Headmaster Sentinel Prime will both be VOYAGER class figures.
2. Titan Wars Alpha Trion is NOT a remold of Combiner Wars Sky Lynx (this was a question asked last week).
3. Cassettes coming out include Ravage (turns into a PDA and a plane) and Rumble (red and black, turns into PDA and tank).
4. The Headmaster (called Titanmaster) figures will have helmets built into the figures, and the head figured will fit into the helmets. You can swap the heads to change the faces.
5. Headmaster Blaster's head looks like a tiny Blaster, Headmaster Soundwave's head looks like a tiny SG Soundwave.

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Updates for 9/25/2015

1. Combiner Wars (yes a Combiners Wars rumor!) will have a G2 Bruticus boxed set.
2. Titan Wars Headmaster Brainstorm will be a Deluxe, not the Generations Voyager mold.
3. Titan Wars Decepticon Headmasters will include Mindwipe and Weirdwolf.

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Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 8th, 2015 @ 1:54am CDT

I feel sorry for Ryan, if he feels compelled to put every headmaster into every armor for the galleries :-P

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Posted by ZeroWolf on October 8th, 2015 @ 2:18am CDT

I like the looks of these a lot, especially the galvatron. Can't wait to see what else this line has to offer

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Posted by Carnivius_Prime on October 8th, 2015 @ 3:04am CDT

Ugh. Galvatron finally gets a Voyager figure and it's pretty damn ugly with a stupid head gimmick.

Blaster would be fine if voyager sized. Makes no sense for him to be so large. Yes the G1 toy was pretty big but that's excused by most of the early G1 toys being from all sorts of different sources. I sold my FoC Blaster thinking this one looked better but if he's going to tower over all my Voyagers and Deluxes (most of whom I've chosen various sizes to suit the characters in my opinion) I'm not going to bother and just hope there may be a downsized knock off at some point.

Hardhead interests me cos he was one of my fave Headmaster toys I had as a kid and this update actually looks well done. So yeah he's on my 'probably' list. The rest don't even come close.

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Posted by RAR on October 8th, 2015 @ 3:09am CDT

I would just remind people that the Original G1 Blaster toy was unusually tall too.

Anyway Here is a video : https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php? ... 7740274911

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Posted by Carnivius_Prime on October 8th, 2015 @ 3:15am CDT

RAR wrote:I would just remind people that the Original G1 Blaster toy was unusually tall too.

I mentioned it in my post just before yours but to me it's no excuse for a new toy of him to be so large especially since he's never been shown to be unusually bigger in any fiction.

The Marvel comics TF fan in me still wants to have a decent G1 Blaster and Lord Straxus of roughly the same size to battle against re-enacting the story that made me love the comics Blaster so much back then. I guess we were lucky enough just to even get a Deluxe Straxus. But of course that looks ridiculous next to a giant Blaster.

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Posted by RAR on October 8th, 2015 @ 3:28am CDT

I don't even think he's that big - look at Galvatron height wise he's only up to Bruticus' crotch. I suspect it's not unlikely that the Titan's Return line's Leaders are a lot smaller (or at least shorter) than say Leader Megatron is. In the images they appear to be more in keeping with the size of something smaller.

I think the whole idea of fondly liked characters like Nightbeat being "Just a head" is going to drive some people's OCD crazy.

Oh though my reaction is middling - I do like the line to some extent - but I still think they offer no danger at all to 3rd parties aside from perhaps Blaster who is reasonably solid - I suspect 3rd parties will not need to have to much fear about the Galvatrons in the works not selling - as there will be plenty of people who will be less than impressed by a Galvatron Headmaster conceptually speaking it's just a bit "Wrong" for him to be one - even if it turns out he's just some brainless Neo-tector for the little head fella.

Hardhead puzzles me a little he only looks a bit like the original toy - he seems to have a widened torso and is much like the cartoon's slightly distorted design in some ways - I hope there is another way to attach the gun as for design balance reasons I'd want the rifle to be worn on the other track not on top of the gun.

The large 3rd party masterpiece scale one has nothing to worry about though that is still 6,000,0000 times better than the Hasbro one.

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Posted by Coptur on October 8th, 2015 @ 3:38am CDT

I know a lot of people are excited about headmasters but i'm really not as i've always hated the gimmick where if you lose the head the toy is basically useless and stuck in one mode because it looks daft and incomplete when in robot mode.

Massive shame that Blaster, Soundwave and Galvatron will now suffer from a terrible gimmick i wanted all three characters but now I really won't get them. shame.

Although I am happy for those that are excited for it.

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Posted by brokenchopstick on October 8th, 2015 @ 5:23am CDT

Alpha Weltall wrote:
carytheone wrote:So I'm slowly going over the images and I notices something. Whats up with that Windblade back there?

Is that a repaint?

Since we don't need two explanations for the same figure in a row I'll change my comment.

Is it just me or does that Hardhead look like a voyager and not a deluxe? It looks pretty damn beefy and looks to be larger overall than Skullcruncher. Also it might just be the illusion of distance in the pictures but Hardhead looks like he'd tower over Windblade and come up to around Bruticus' pelvis whereas Skullcruncher looks like he comes up to Sky Reign's knee.

I think the sheer level of sculpting on Hardhead also helps: I'd expect to see that on a Voyager not a Deluxe. Plus, I think my brain also assumed he'd be sized to match Brainstorm. But yeah, he's one beefy deluxe!

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Posted by no-one on October 8th, 2015 @ 5:53am CDT

brokenchopstick wrote:
Alpha Weltall wrote:
carytheone wrote:So I'm slowly going over the images and I notices something. Whats up with that Windblade back there?

Is that a repaint?

Since we don't need two explanations for the same figure in a row I'll change my comment.

Is it just me or does that Hardhead look like a voyager and not a deluxe? It looks pretty damn beefy and looks to be larger overall than Skullcruncher. Also it might just be the illusion of distance in the pictures but Hardhead looks like he'd tower over Windblade and come up to around Bruticus' pelvis whereas Skullcruncher looks like he comes up to Sky Reign's knee.

I think the sheer level of sculpting on Hardhead also helps: I'd expect to see that on a Voyager not a Deluxe. Plus, I think my brain also assumed he'd be sized to match Brainstorm. But yeah, he's one beefy deluxe!

Wait, what? I just assumed Hardhead was a Voyager. That will be weird if he is a deluxe, because Brainstorm is a pretty big voyager.

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Posted by Stuartmaximus on October 8th, 2015 @ 5:57am CDT

Hold on! Where's Fort Max? as we now know that Blaster can connect to him

+ I hope they do a Brainstorm, coz the Generations one is bloody hard to find in physical stores(B&M) in the UK!(YES, I know B&M are currently restocking & people in the UK are beginning to spot the odd Brainstorm & Doubledealer cropping up)

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Posted by ZeroWolf on October 8th, 2015 @ 6:14am CDT

It's doubtful they would do a new brainstorm, at least, at this point in proceedings. Maybe next year.

As for Fort Max I'm guessing he's been saved for tonight if indeed he's going to be the next titan class. If no reveal here then we may have to wait till next year at the new York toyshow.

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Posted by Stuartmaximus on October 8th, 2015 @ 6:24am CDT

RAR wrote:I would just remind people that the Original G1 Blaster toy was unusually tall too.

Anyway Here is a video : https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php? ... 7740274911

& don't forget the Platinum Edition one too(if it's on the same scale....that is)

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Posted by Stuartmaximus on October 8th, 2015 @ 6:35am CDT

Generator_G1 wrote:Just reposting the Transmissions podcast rumor list and bolded the confirmed ones based on the latest news. Hope to see more news confirmed tomorrow.

Episode 114-116 of the Transmissions podcast, according to the hosts, has had numerous leaked images sent to them of the upcoming Titan Wars line.

TransMissions Episode 116 - SDCC Highs and Lows | TransMissions

Here is a breakdown of the news of the leaks so far, take with a grain of salt, since they won't publish the pictures to the public.

Titan Wars will be heavy with Headmasters, base gimmicks and cassette.

Figures will include:

1. Leader Powermaster Optimus Prime, heavy remold of Combiner Wars Leader Ultra Magnus. This will be a Headmaster/Powermaster.
2. Soundwave, headmaster, a heavy remold of Titan Wars Blaster, alt modes include base and a ipod hifi type mode.
3. Legends Eject. Alt modes include the tablet mode we saw on upcoming Legends Buzzsaw and another tank.
4. Legends Stripes. Tiger mode looks a lot like Steeljaw, but different colors.

--

Rumors for 7/31/2015

1. We have confirmation that Blaster is Leader Class. We also have word that Leader Class Optimus Prime's head will turn into a Ginrai.
2. It does not look like Cerebros will have a vehicle alt mode (perhaps a base alternate mode?).
3. You can expect the other Headmasters to be released in Voyager Class like Brainstorm, and the heads for all the Titan Wars Headmasters will be compatible with Generations Brainstorm. They will all come with a small beast mode partner who becomes a vehicle the head can ride.
4. For the Deluxes in Titan Wars, expect the 1986 movie robots in Cybertronian alt modes.

--

Rumors for 8/7/2015

1. Titan Wars will have a Legends class Rewind, Rumble and Frenzy.
2. Titan Wars will have a Headmaster Galvatron, size class unconfirmed.

--

Rumors for 8/14/2015

This week's Transmissions Titan War leaks.
1. Titan Wars Headmaster Galvatron will NOT be a remold of Combiner Wars Leader Megatron. Its form is based on G1 Galvatron toy and IDW Spotlight Galvatron.
2. The "Deluxes" in Titan Wars will perhaps be larger and more complex than recent Deluxes, possibly with a larger price point more like a Voyager.
3. The small partners that come with the figures for Titan Wars will be called "Titan Masters".

--

Rumors for 8/21/2015

Just the one piece of news/rumor for this week.

1. There will be a Titan Wars Headmaster Sentinel Prime. He will be a Headmaster. His colors are based on the WFC Sentinel Prime. Size class and alt mode unknown.

--

Rumors for 8/28/2015

1. There will be a Titan Wars Alpha Trion toy. Size class unknown. It seems to have beast mode kibble on it. Possibly a triple changer with beast and ship alt modes.
2. Upcoming Headmasters will include Brainstorm (may or may not be a reuse of the Voyager Generations mold), Chromedome, Hardhead, Highbrow, Nightbeat, Siren, Horribull and Skullcruncher.
3. Upcoming Deluxe 1986 movie accurate figures will include Scourge and Blurr.

--

Rumors for 9/4/2015

1. Titan Wars Headmaster Galvatron and Headmaster Sentinel Prime will both be VOYAGER class figures.
2. Titan Wars Alpha Trion is NOT a remold of Combiner Wars Sky Lynx (this was a question asked last week).
3. Cassettes coming out include Ravage (turns into a PDA and a plane) and Rumble (red and black, turns into PDA and tank).
4. The Headmaster (called Titanmaster) figures will have helmets built into the figures, and the head figured will fit into the helmets. You can swap the heads to change the faces.
5. Headmaster Blaster's head looks like a tiny Blaster, Headmaster Soundwave's head looks like a tiny SG Soundwave.

--

Updates for 9/25/2015

1. Combiner Wars (yes a Combiners Wars rumor!) will have a G2 Bruticus boxed set.
2. Titan Wars Headmaster Brainstorm will be a Deluxe, not the Generations Voyager mold.
3. Titan Wars Decepticon Headmasters will include Mindwipe and Weirdwolf.

First of all....that's pish that they're going with Magnus as a remold for Powermaster Prime! means his cab can't turn into a robot! but the upside is...at least you can store the Powermaster figure where Minimus Ambus would normally go!

Also

Pity they couldn't add a combiner peg to the deluxe movie accurate Scourge! that way you could've connected him to CW Cyclonus!(granted he'd be still missing 3 other limbs! but....it's a start).

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Posted by ZeroWolf on October 8th, 2015 @ 6:54am CDT

Has scourge actually been confirmed yet?

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Posted by RAR on October 8th, 2015 @ 7:09am CDT

Stuartmaximus wrote:
RAR wrote:I would just remind people that the Original G1 Blaster toy was unusually tall too.

& don't forget the Platinum Edition one too(if it's on the same scale....that is)

The Blaster and the reissues and Twincast are all the same mould family any changes are fairly minor like making the chest hold two cassettes on some versions.

I've never handled a Platinum Blaster so thanks for reminding me something that I'd previously forgot to ask - so I'll ask does that now does the Platinum Blaster hold 2 cassettes or one ?

Anyway The reissues and G1 original and the platinum are bigger toys height wise than Cybertron/Universe Blaster or even WFC/FOC Blaster.

I wonder if they've considered that the Titan-Master minivehicle things could shape wise replicate Actionmaster Companions as I am getting a hint from them of that sort of look to them - especially the new dinosaur's resemblance to Tyrannitron.

P.s.

It turns out the reason Galvatron looks small is he's a Voyager not a leader.

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Posted by Stuartmaximus on October 8th, 2015 @ 7:47am CDT

RAR wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:
RAR wrote:I would just remind people that the Original G1 Blaster toy was unusually tall too.

& don't forget the Platinum Edition one too(if it's on the same scale....that is)

The Blaster and the reissues and Twincast are all the same mould family any changes are fairly minor like making the chest hold two cassettes on some versions.

I've never handled a Platinum Blaster so thanks for reminding me something that I'd previously forgot to ask - so I'll ask does that now does the Platinum Blaster hold 2 cassettes or one ?

Anyway The reissues and G1 original and the platinum are bigger toys height wise than Cybertron/Universe Blaster or even WFC/FOC Blaster.

I wonder if they've considered that the Titan-Master minivehicle things could shape wise replicate Actionmaster Companions as I am getting a hint from them of that sort of look to them - especially the new dinosaur's resemblance to Tyrannitron.

P.s.

It turns out the reason Galvatron looks small is he's a Voyager not a leader.

I don't think so? I've only been able to get it to hold one cassette

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Posted by lost_soul on October 8th, 2015 @ 7:48am CDT

Hardhead is a definite buy for me.

The rest I'll need to see in hand before I make a decision.

Only slight annoyance I have is that the Titan Master minibots have the "blockiness" of the old G1 Headmasters. Something along the lines of Minimus Ambus would have satisfied me for articulation.

*On a side note the G1 Headmaster back story was cr@p in my view. With this version it looks like small robots boosting bigger robots. This I'm okay with.

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Posted by ZeroWolf on October 8th, 2015 @ 7:56am CDT

Action Masters! Of course I knew those vehicles were reminding me of something, thanks RAR

Maybe in a round about way all -masters are being homaged here, barring the two main line Japanese gimmicks

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Posted by Diem on October 8th, 2015 @ 7:57am CDT

Dropping in to say YIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Mini-Headmaster sets? Kind of down. This maybe reduces the possibility of Horri-Bull, Fangry, Siren, or an actually good Nightbeat though I'm especially sad that this likely means no Squeezeplay or Minerva. If any of the Deluxe/Voyager Headmaster molds are cars I feel like we'll see some repaints down the line though. Other than that I'll probably buy these all.

Deluxe Headmasters? I wish they would all be Voyagers, and I wish that they'd been made a few years ago when part count wasn't down, but these are still INCREDIBLY exciting for me. I can't believe we're getting a new Skullcruncher! Now my fingers are just crossed for the other 7 1987 Headmasters to make it through the gate. Especially Chromedome, Mindwipe and the Horrorcons.

Voyager Headmasters? Actually I'd love for the Horrorcons to be in this scale. I'm going to wait for any announcement before I get excited, but if Hasbro makes a line of HEADMASTER TRIPLE CHANGERS and doesn't include Snapdragon, Apeface, or both, I may have to choke a bot. Anyway, Galvatron looks pretty decent, don't really care that he's a Headmaster, hope we get a version that's less just block purple.

Leader Headmasters? Blaster isn't a great start here (though I dig that he'll be roughly of a height with MP Soundwave) but I'd be interested to see a Scorponok.

I'm cautiously optimistic.

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Posted by ZeroWolf on October 8th, 2015 @ 8:00am CDT

@Diem Takara's take on Galvatron could be the answer to that

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Posted by william-james88 on October 8th, 2015 @ 8:27am CDT

Generator_G1 wrote:Just reposting the Transmissions podcast rumor list and bolded the confirmed ones based on the latest news. Hope to see more news confirmed tomorrow.

Many parts your put in bold are NOT confirmed and I will detail it so that people are not confused. Also, I would not put too much of high hopes for tomorrow since Hasbro did send out a release to the press (ei Seibertron) with the class descriptions and official images and only a few from the Titan Master class were not present on the preview night. So I think for the most part, we have seen the min reveals. Now lets break down what may indeed not be confirmed:

4. Legends Stripes. Tiger mode looks a lot like Steeljaw, but different colors.

- Firstly, we already had a listing for stripes long ago. Wha we didnt know was how he looked like. Doesnt look like Steeljaw to me, this has a way more narrow head and no mane.

3. You can expect the other Headmasters to be released in Voyager Class like Brainstorm, and the heads for all the Titan Wars Headmasters will be compatible with Generations Brainstorm. They will all come with a small beast mode partner who becomes a vehicle the head can ride.

- The other headmasers are NOT released in voyager class like Bainstorm and they DO NOT come wth smaller beast mode partners. Those are bought seperately with individual heads.

2. The "Deluxes" in Titan Wars will perhaps be larger and more complex than recent Deluxes, possibly with a larger price point more like a Voyager.

- They sure as hell dont look more complex than the deluxe class and not sure about them being that much larger, thats yet to be confirmed.

2. Upcoming Headmasters will include Brainstorm (may or may not be a reuse of the Voyager Generations mold), Chromedome, Hardhead, Highbrow, Nightbeat, Siren, Horribull and Skullcruncher.

- Only Hardhead and Skullcruncher are confirmed. The rest are just heads that come with a little vehicle. No sights or mention of Brainstorm.

4. The Headmaster (called Titanmaster) figures will have helmets built into the figures, and the head figured will fit into the helmets. You can swap the heads to change the faces.
5. Headmaster Blaster's head looks like a tiny Blaster

-This is only the case with Blaster (since the titan master doesnt fit into a helmet for Galvatron) and even then the face will not change that much sice his helmet takes over much of the titan master. The face will change more for Galvatron. Also it's the leader headmasters (not titan masters) that have the built in helmet.

ZeroWolf wrote:Has scourge actually been confirmed yet?

No.

Diem wrote: I'm going to wait for any announcement before I get excited, but if Hasbro makes a line of HEADMASTER TRIPLE CHANGERS and doesn't include Snapdragon, Apeface, or both, I may have to choke a bot.

Right there with you. You cant just sa you will have triplechanging headmasters and NOT release them. That's like saying you are making combiners and releasing Scattershot but NOT Computron... oh crap.

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Posted by Gauntlet101010 on October 8th, 2015 @ 8:34am CDT

I'm pretty happy we're getting a new Galvatron, as I'm a pretty big Galvatron fan. It's ironic that both he and Cyclonus are getting new gimmicks. Now we just need some weird left-field gimmick for Scourge. How about making him a Pretender? Gotta say, Combiner Wars missed a trick by not releasing him as a limb.

But I'm big into 3rd parties too, and I'm not sure this Galvatron will replace Mania King. I'll get it anyway (and especially any toyetic repaints), but even so the proportions all look a bit off compared to MK. On the other hand he doesn't have monkey arms, so there's that.

Blaster ... I dunno. Label Blaster is a great size for him in my book. Leader seems too big. Ditto the inevitable Soundwave repaint. I may stick with what I have for both (Label Blaster, WFC Soundwave). We'll see.

Headmasters, well ... geez, I guess I gotta decide. Because I was never into Headmasters as a kid. Except for Squeezeplay who is not present. It might be that these are cheap enough for me to impulse buy if I see them at Toys R Us. Or I may just avoid it and buy something I really, really like.

As for the tapes the MPs are the end of that for me. I don't think I'll ever need another version of any of those guys.

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Posted by jungletron on October 8th, 2015 @ 8:39am CDT

Awwright! Gonna cancel my DX9 Tyrant pre-order. & I'm glad I didn't buy EAVI Metal Transistor :APPLAUSE:

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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 8th, 2015 @ 8:43am CDT

I for one have taken a liking to the blockier headmaster design. Makes them look much more stable

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Posted by ScottyP on October 8th, 2015 @ 8:51am CDT

Coptur wrote:I know a lot of people are excited about headmasters but i'm really not as i've always hated the gimmick where if you lose the head the toy is basically useless and stuck in one mode because it looks daft and incomplete when in robot mode.

Massive shame that Blaster, Soundwave and Galvatron will now suffer from a terrible gimmick i wanted all three characters but now I really won't get them. shame.

Aaron Archer basically said the same thing about losing heads for years and I always just shook my head. This is the line geared towards older children/teens and collectors. Is losing parts really that big a problem? Assuming you're an adult collector, do you really have trouble losing pieces, still? I just don't get the argument. Leave the head in, if you transform it maybe you'll have to set it aside for a moment. Is setting it off to the side any worse in reality from just turning it backwards and down into a hole to the degree where you won't allow yourself to have fun with something? These are all rhetorical questions, because I think this argument is just silly. If you don't like the toys, hey, no biggie, that's you doin' you, just would hate to think someone might deprive themselves of potentially good representations of characters that they enjoy in their hobby because of anxiety over losing a part.

Diem wrote:I'm cautiously optimistic.

That's how I'm feeling about these. It looks like an overall play pattern that I'm not ashamed to admit is super appealing to me. These look like things I will actually mess with, repeatedly, in various fun ways. A lot of stuff lately just turns into pretty looking shelf ornamentation over time.

Also folks, be prepared for price hikes. If you think you're going to get to mess with that Skullcruncher for $10-$13, you should probably go ahead and save up another $7-$10 now and reset your expectations. I fully anticipate a pricing model similar to the Star Wars Black Series.

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Posted by Prowl4 on October 8th, 2015 @ 8:52am CDT

Coptur wrote:I know a lot of people are excited about headmasters but i'm really not as i've always hated the gimmick where if you lose the head the toy is basically useless and stuck in one mode because it looks daft and incomplete when in robot mode.

Massive shame that Blaster, Soundwave and Galvatron will now suffer from a terrible gimmick i wanted all three characters but now I really won't get them. shame.

Although I am happy for those that are excited for it.

I agree with all of this. I can accept and understand characters that have always been headmasters or gimmicks like hardhead and skullcruncher but what I can't accept and don't like is changing galvatron who in idw specifically states he hates headmasters, being made as an actual headmaster. It's like having johnny storm be played by Michael b Jordan, it shouldn't have happened.

I would have gladly accepted a repainted remoulded gens leader megatron as galvatron as the body type is pretty much the same in idw.

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Posted by ScottyP on October 8th, 2015 @ 8:56am CDT

Prowl4 wrote:what I can't accept and don't like is changing galvatron who in idw specifically states he hates headmasters, being made as an actual headmaster. It's like having johnny storm be played by Michael b Jordan, it shouldn't have happened.

See, this is the reasonable counterpoint to Galvatron being a Headmaster. I disagree and look forward to the toy, it doesn't bug me, but your reason here for being bugged by it makes sense.

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Posted by Coptur on October 8th, 2015 @ 9:13am CDT

ScottyP wrote:
Coptur wrote:I know a lot of people are excited about headmasters but i'm really not as i've always hated the gimmick where if you lose the head the toy is basically useless and stuck in one mode because it looks daft and incomplete when in robot mode.

Massive shame that Blaster, Soundwave and Galvatron will now suffer from a terrible gimmick i wanted all three characters but now I really won't get them. shame.
Aaron Archer basically said the same thing about losing heads for years and I always just shook my head. This is the line geared towards older children/teens and collectors. Is losing parts really that big a problem? Assuming you're an adult collector, do you really have trouble losing pieces, still? I just don't get the argument. Leave the head in, if you transform it maybe you'll have to set it aside for a moment. Is setting it off to the side any worse in reality from just turning it backwards and down into a hole to the degree where you won't allow yourself to have fun with something? These are all rhetorical questions, because I think this argument is just silly. If you don't like the toys, hey, no biggie, that's you doin' you, just would hate to think someone might deprive themselves of potentially good representations of characters that they enjoy in their hobby because of anxiety over losing a part.

Diem wrote:I'm cautiously optimistic.
That's how I'm feeling about these. It looks like an overall play pattern that I'm not ashamed to admit is super appealing to me. These look like things I will actually mess with, repeatedly, in various fun ways. A lot of stuff lately just turns into pretty looking shelf ornamentation over time.

Also folks, be prepared for price hikes. If you think you're going to get to mess with that Skullcruncher for $10-$13, you should probably go ahead and save up another $7-$10 now and reset your expectations. I fully anticipate a pricing model similar to the Star Wars Black Series.

thanks for removing my end statement to my comment :-?

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Of course I would get annoyed if i lost a part especially their blooming HEAD :HEADHURTS:

. i'm an adult collector with visitors, a wife, children & a vaccuum cleaner I can try my damnedest to not lose part but yes it can still happen not often but it still can happen. I :BOWDOWN:

to you if your perfect enough not lose anything.

heck...i still hope i can find my takara Magmatron sword blade 10 years later.

If there was an option to swivel a permanent head with a headmaster gimmick peg/hole, i would buy these toys in a heatbeat.

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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 8th, 2015 @ 9:14am CDT

ScottyP wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:what I can't accept and don't like is changing galvatron who in idw specifically states he hates headmasters, being made as an actual headmaster. It's like having johnny storm be played by Michael b Jordan, it shouldn't have happened.
See, this is the reasonable counterpoint to Galvatron being a Headmaster. I disagree and look forward to the toy, it doesn't bug me, but your reason here for being bugged by it makes sense.

It still bothers me some, but since the Headmaster part can be ignored in robot mode (which he looks like he'd be in most of the time for me considering how good it looks) it can be overlooked. And Considering the titan master is Megatron, that added level of coolness kinda softened up the "Galvs hates headmasters" thing

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Posted by ZeroWolf on October 8th, 2015 @ 9:20am CDT

Toys before fiction is pretty much how it works. Cyclonus was a combiner I'm CW, yet he remained normal in More than Meets the Eye. Basically I don't think Galvatron will be having a change of heart in the comics any time soon.

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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 8th, 2015 @ 9:36am CDT

ZeroWolf wrote:Toys before fiction is pretty much how it works. Cyclonus was a combiner I'm CW, yet he remained normal in More than Meets the Eye. Basically I don't think Galvatron will be having a change of heart in the comics any time soon.

Agreed, but it is still just a tick off, even if it doesn't happen in fiction

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Posted by ScottyP on October 8th, 2015 @ 9:36am CDT

Coptur wrote:Of course I would get annoyed if i lost a part especially their blooming HEAD . i'm an adult collector with visitors, a wife, children & a vaccuum cleaner I can try my damnedest to not lose part but yes it can still happen not often but it still can happen. I to you if your perfect enough not lose anything.

Of course I've lost things, stuff happens. Point I was trying to make is that this factor doesn't stop me from buying stuff if it looks fun. My dog's puked on toys, eaten limbs, almost swallowed Kreons, and drooled on countless other things :lol:

That's just life, but to your point, I suppose it is fair if the perception of the risk that something will happen is so high that it makes it not worth it. Feels like I've got a better understanding of that viewpoint now from you though, so good stuff!

And yeah, I snip quotes. Saves page space and I think it helps make the forums more pleasant for reading by others, sorry if it bugged you

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Posted by Prowl4 on October 8th, 2015 @ 10:04am CDT

ScottyP wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:what I can't accept and don't like is changing galvatron who in idw specifically states he hates headmasters, being made as an actual headmaster. It's like having johnny storm be played by Michaelsame Jordan, it shouldn't have happened.
See, this is the reasonable counterpoint to Galvatron being a Headmaster. I disagree and look forward to the toy, it doesn't bug me, but your reason here for being bugged by it makes sense.

I know people like it and of course it all comes down to personal opinion. I'm just disappointed that galvatron is being done this way. I see that toys and fiction intertwine. I didn't and wouldn't buy a combiner cyclonus for the same reason. Just a pity in my own personal opinion.

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Posted by Prowl4 on October 8th, 2015 @ 10:06am CDT

It is funny though how in idw galvatron verbally discussed his disgust at headmasters and hasbro made him one.

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Posted by Diem on October 8th, 2015 @ 10:08am CDT

ZeroWolf wrote:@Diem Takara's take on Galvatron could be the answer to that

True, and I'd be surprised if there isn't some kind of Galvatron vs. Optimus Hasbro set at some point.

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Posted by Coptur on October 8th, 2015 @ 10:11am CDT

[/quote]Of course I've lost things, stuff happens. Point I was trying to make is that this factor doesn't stop me from buying stuff if it looks fun. My dog's puked on toys, eaten limbs, almost swallowed Kreons, and drooled on countless other things :lol:

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That's alright i wasn't being angry, i genuinely am happy for those that like them and do hope you enjoy them.

I just never got on with the headmaster thing...although i really enjoyed the japanese tv show :BANG_HEAD:

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Posted by Diem on October 8th, 2015 @ 10:12am CDT

Prowl4 wrote:
ScottyP wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:what I can't accept and don't like is changing galvatron who in idw specifically states he hates headmasters, being made as an actual headmaster. It's like having johnny storm be played by Michaelsame Jordan, it shouldn't have happened.
See, this is the reasonable counterpoint to Galvatron being a Headmaster. I disagree and look forward to the toy, it doesn't bug me, but your reason here for being bugged by it makes sense.

I know people like it and of course it all comes down to personal opinion. I'm just disappointed that galvatron is being done this way. I see that toys and fiction intertwine. I didn't and wouldn't buy a combiner cyclonus for the same reason. Just a pity in my own personal opinion.

Not just IDW. G1 cartoon Galvatron wasn't super impressed with Headmasters and Targetmasters either. But I'd rather have a decent, larger-than-deluxe Galvatron get released with a gimmick that doesn't compromise the toy, rather than not get him at all just because he doesn't fit the current aesthetic.

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Posted by Deathsanras on October 8th, 2015 @ 10:15am CDT

Feels like HasTak has once again Devastated third-parties.

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Posted by Gauntlet101010 on October 8th, 2015 @ 10:22am CDT

Deathsanras wrote:Feels like HasTak has once again Devastated third-parties.

Not really. It depends on what you like and what you're looking for.

Of course if all you want is to fill a space in your collection, then sure I suppose.

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Posted by ZeroWolf on October 8th, 2015 @ 10:35am CDT

Let's not get into that discussion again, third parties operate under different rules to hasbro so comparisons aren't fair

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Posted by no-one on October 8th, 2015 @ 10:35am CDT

Prowl4 wrote:It is funny though how in idw galvatron verbally discussed his disgust at headmasters and hasbro made him one.

Hasbro is very spiteful towards it's villians.

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Posted by RAR on October 8th, 2015 @ 10:48am CDT

Deathsanras wrote:Feels like HasTak has once again Devastated third-parties.

Not really there is nothing there that really Pi**** on anyone's picnic other than possibly Rewind.

Different strokes for different folks really. If I was a huge fan of Headmasters I'd be looking at the 3rd parties for the "Premium" representations.

The obvious case of where one third party might be going "Oh Sh**" is Fanprojects - as let's be honest their Skullcruncher is pretty poor and Hasbro's one is certainly better than that.

Hardhead is semi-accurate he's a nice smallish size that might be useful most 3rd party Hardhead's will be bigger - I've always liked Hardhead and I own the Toyworld one - which I like a lot and I will buy others as they present themselves.

I think Hasbro & 3rd party sometimes complement each other (i.e. a 3rd party addition makes a Hasbro toy even better) but there rarely trip over each other.. aside from this Skullcruncher.

Take Stripes for example if someone made a nicer one of him that was a Cassette I'd be very pleased to see it - also Hasbros Blaster - which I do actually really like and I find appealing in many ways isn't going to stop me from eventually picking up the KFC one too.

Since 3rd parties tend to so often obsess over the collector focused Masterpiece aesthetic what ever Hasbro makes isn't really competing with them anyway.

Even the Takara MP Hot Rod and MP Shockwave don't potentially have a huge detrimental effect on the 3rd party ones if the 3rd party ones offer features like lights and metal pieces and larger size. Or it's a representation of Rodimus rather than Hotrod for example.

I do think the Hasbro Rodimus is good toy it's just riddled with rather serious production flaws unfortunately... But I don't think an existing 3rd party Rodimus is superior (as yet) even with it's tendency to self-destruct on you.

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P.s.

I would normally agree with the perversity of making Galvatron a Headmaster - I don't think it matters as much if the mini-figure is a robot as it did when they were an armoured flesh-creature.

I am a little puzzled why the mini-figure looks like G1 Megatron and yet is named otherwise.

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Posted by Diem on October 8th, 2015 @ 10:53am CDT

ScottyP wrote:
Coptur wrote:I know a lot of people are excited about headmasters but i'm really not as i've always hated the gimmick where if you lose the head the toy is basically useless and stuck in one mode because it looks daft and incomplete when in robot mode.

Massive shame that Blaster, Soundwave and Galvatron will now suffer from a terrible gimmick i wanted all three characters but now I really won't get them. shame.
Aaron Archer basically said the same thing about losing heads for years and I always just shook my head. This is the line geared towards older children/teens and collectors. Is losing parts really that big a problem? Assuming you're an adult collector, do you really have trouble losing pieces, still? I just don't get the argument.

I agree. It's one thing if it's a gun that hangs off the outside and could be knocked off, but since they were first introduced Headmaster toys have had a little cubby or cockpit for the driver or tamer to fit in. You might as well not have any accessories at all if losing them is a given.

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Posted by DMSL on October 8th, 2015 @ 12:05pm CDT

So let me get this straight, Galvatron and Blaster are both headmasters?

That is actually pretty cool, but personally i could do without that gimmick for these two characters since they were never headmasters in G1.

Apart from the damn hollow parts all of these figures look really nice.

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Posted by frogbat on October 8th, 2015 @ 12:12pm CDT

i actually enjoyed the headmasters gimmick as a kid and lusted after quite a few of them. Had weird wold and mind wipe but never skullcruncher. Only ever had brainstorm from the first lot.

Blaster and the possible sound wave are great additions though maybe i'd have preferred them as voyagers but won't complain as the cassettes gimmicks look interesting.

Galvatron is now on my no1 must have spot. Fans bitching bout the original g1 mould and 3rd party pressure might've something to do with it. Had a feeling he'd show as he was in the comic previews.... But he looks great, even his jet mode. The size well, he's a bulky voyager from what can tell and it kind of fits in with his anime depiction. Obviously as a toy, after megatron and ultra magnus it seems he's been shortchanged again in size class.

Not too sure about the other stuff at the mo but i do know my generations shelves are gonna get a shake up...

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Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on October 8th, 2015 @ 12:44pm CDT

Ok guys, sorry I'm behind in the forum. I have a lot to respond to, so I'll just put it ALL in one post.

fenrir72 wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:I'm having trouble deciding whether or not to love, or hate that Galvatron figure. I'll decide when we actually get pictures of his NOT glued together.

That's not a prototype SS. It's the actual item for the domestic release. Unlike the first samples of Blastoff with rushed paint apps.

About Galvatron, is he gnna be an upgrade of Megs? Why'd he allow Nucleon to share/cohabitate his body? Is Nucleon from Nebulos or inorganic like the cyberdroids of Cybertron?

I didn't say it was a prototype, I just said it's glued together. I hope he is just mistransforrmed somewhat, but still Galvatron looks pretty bad to me. I'm not happy with it. I AM however VERY excited about "deluxe" Hardhead. He seems to be a similar size to voyager Roadbuster.

Hellscream9999 wrote:I think the gist of this line is 'piloting titan-sized versions of themselves to fight titan-sized enemies' so, by that logic, megatron is piloting a galvatron-styled mech suit...

...which is kinda stupid. I was excited about a new Galvatron, but now this makes me wanna hang my head in shame.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Blaster's "headmaster" unit is apparently called Twincast, though. I think there's definitely more than meets the eye to the story behind this gimmick.

...or it was a cheap way to come up with a name for his "titan master". I am more excited about Blaster than Galvatron though. I actually kinda like it.

Autobot tap out wrote:not sure if it me but this new line is screaming Armada Sideways

but otherwise

nice job Hasbro

i'd rather waste hard earned $$$ on these then some third party nonsense

I'd say the same thing about the deluxes. (Hardhead YESSS!!!) Galvatron though, not so much. >:oP

SkyWarpt wrote:
carytheone wrote:So I'm slowly going over the images and I notices something. Whats up with that Windblade back there?

Is that a repaint?

Off with her head!!!

Yeah I noticed that too... I just dismissed it as one of the combiner hunters, but then again, why would one of those be showed off at THIS convention??? :-?

Hellscream9999 wrote:Wow, galvatron looks to be about as tall as defensor/bruticus' leg is long, that's substantially smalle than any pic makes him out to be

Yep. I thought he was a leader class at first, but was KINDA happy to find out he's a voyager, so he'd go with CW Cyclonus very well, but the figure looks horrible to me. I'm sorry I keep hammering on Galvatron, but he just does. THAT KIBBLE ON THE BACK OF HIS ARMS IS DRIVING ME NUTS.

*catches breath* There, here's my responses.

My final thoughts on all of these guys:

-Blaster looks okay.
-The Legends cassettes look great.
-Galvatron looks stupid.
-The new "deluxe" figures revealed here (Hardhead and Skullcruncher) look amazing, and should be called voyagers.
-The separate titan masters with their vehicle things... AHHHH I have no idea what to think about em. I REALLY hope Nightbeat, and the other little separate titan masters, will get bodies.

My wishes for next Titan Wars/Titan Master figures:

-Mindwipe (deluxe or voyager.)
-G1 style Brainstorm (deluxe or voyager, already been rumored.)
-Chromedome (deluxe or voyager.)
-And maybe a voyager Rodimus Prime to battle this stupid looking Galvatron. :roll:

-Heck, maybe even an Alligatorcon/Optimus Prime retool of Skullcruncher. :lol:

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Posted by DeadCaL on October 8th, 2015 @ 1:08pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:

Those sunken faces, eessh... :roll:

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Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on October 8th, 2015 @ 1:13pm CDT

DeadCaL wrote:
Those sunken faces, eessh...

I think it's just the ways they transformed it. It looks less sunken in on some pictures than others.

Btw if I can only get 1 figure out of all the ones revealed here, it would be Hardhead: