Transformers War for Cybertron Siege Refraktor Reconnaissance Team Was Originally a Hascon Exclusive

Stargrave wrote:I prefer the battle damage this just looks like some cleaner spilled on them. Neat attempt thought it’s cool to see them trying this stuff. I think they could refine it.

I like the battle damage, too.

Stargrave wrote:Thanks to fellow Seibertronian Sabrblade we've learned of an interesting listing at BBCW Distributors. The listing is for the new exclusive Refraktor/Reflector Reconnaissance Team with the additional accessories which make it look more like a traditional camera. At the end of the listing it indicates this was originally intended to be one of the two Hascon exclusives, the second in fact. This gives us two things to note: one, now we know why it's not numbered in the Siege or Selects line and two, it tells us that there was a Hascon planned for 2019 that didn't happen.

Here's the original listing at BBCW Distributors:

License: Transformers / War For Cybertron: Siege
Features:
Refraktor Reconnaissance Team Pack comes with Spectro, Viewfinder, and Spyglass figures. All 3 figures feature classic conversion between robot and G1-inspired Cybertronian spacecraft modes in 17 steps.
Combine included figures to form Refraktor camera mode. Refraktor is an evil marauder - not a working camera.
Special box inspired by classic camera boxes. Includes distinct instructions on how to work this non-working camera. Oh no! It’s KREMZEEK! He’s tearing through the package! The pack also includes a Kremzeek figure, a really annoying electronic pest.
Pack includes 8 weapon and armor accessories. Multiple C.O.M.B.A.T. weapon ports on figure and vehicle enable weapon and armor accessories to attach in custom configurations.
Ages 8+
WARNING: CHOKING HAZARD - Small parts may be generated.
Not for children under 3 years.
Assortment is set to include:
4x TRA GEN HASCON EXCLUSIVE 2 (630509825226).
Sold as cases. Packed 4 per case.

What do you think the other exclusive might have been? Tell us your thoughts in the forum and stay tuned to Seibertron for the ultimate in Transformers news.

... so who will get him?

Whats your question Jelze?

william-james88 wrote:Whats your question Jelze?

Simple: which store will end up selling that set?

Wireless_Phantom wrote:Well... Hmm. Maybe Nemesis Prime? Possibly Blaster? Maybe a Diaclone inspired two pack of Tiger Track and Diaclone Ironhide?

The other HasCon excusive was probably just the Dino-cassettes reissue, what with it being an oddball in the Vintage G1 line by being the only item of the line that isn't being sold through Walmart.

Wireless_Phantom wrote:Well... Hmm. Maybe Nemesis Prime? Possibly Blaster? Maybe a Diaclone inspired two pack of Tiger Track and Diaclone Ironhide?

If we get a Nemesis Prime repaint of Siege Prime, that'd be awesome. Though, I also wish that we could get a Shattered Glass repaint out of Siege Prime with the battle damage replaced with energon splashes because of a Digibash that I had seen on Twitter. Or even a Toxitron repaint. Annnnnnd it's at this moment that I realize that Hasbro has way too many character's that are just repainted Optimus Primes

Sabrblade wrote:

Wireless_Phantom wrote:Well... Hmm. Maybe Nemesis Prime? Possibly Blaster? Maybe a Diaclone inspired two pack of Tiger Track and Diaclone Ironhide?

The other HasCon excusive was probably just the Dino-cassettes reissue, what with it being an oddball in the Vintage G1 line by being the only item of the line that isn't being sold through Walmart.

Just gotta be the guy who whacks down the piñata on the first swing dontcha Sabr. The entertainment is in the ridiculous guessing and speculation.

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

Wireless_Phantom wrote:Well... Hmm. Maybe Nemesis Prime? Possibly Blaster? Maybe a Diaclone inspired two pack of Tiger Track and Diaclone Ironhide?

If we get a Nemesis Prime repaint of Siege Prime, that'd be awesome. Though, I also wish that we could get a Shattered Glass repaint out of Siege Prime with the battle damage replaced with energon splashes because of a Digibash that I had seen on Twitter. Or even a Toxitron repaint. Annnnnnd it's at this moment that I realize that Hasbro has way too many character's that are just repainted Optimus Primes

G1 Megatron still has more:

MW Megaplex
G2 Archforce
BWII Megastorm
BWII Thrust
RiD Bludgeon
RiD Wind Sheer
RM Air Hunter
RM Reverse Convoy

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Whats your question Jelze?

Simple: which store will end up selling that set?

We already know, its through fan channels, like a may mayhem toy but without support from big box retailers. He isnt an exclusive anymore.

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Whats your question Jelze?

Simple: which store will end up selling that set?

We already know, its through fan channels, like a may mayhem toy but without support from big box retailers. He isnt an exclusive anymore.

I mean pulse, first of all, I've had him pre-ordered since sdcc, I don't quite understand, all the other e-tailers have pre-orders up for him too

Hellscream9999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Whats your question Jelze?

Simple: which store will end up selling that set?

We already know, its through fan channels, like a may mayhem toy but without support from big box retailers. He isnt an exclusive anymore.

I mean pulse, first of all, I've had him pre-ordered since sdcc, I don't quite understand, all the other e-tailers have pre-orders up for him too

Yes, Its the same as gen select megatron or most other non exclusive siege toys only found online, what's hard to understand?

Sabrblade wrote:

Wireless_Phantom wrote:Well... Hmm. Maybe Nemesis Prime? Possibly Blaster? Maybe a Diaclone inspired two pack of Tiger Track and Diaclone Ironhide?

The other HasCon excusive was probably just the Dino-cassettes reissue, what with it being an oddball in the Vintage G1 line by being the only item of the line that isn't being sold through Walmart.

The real question is would they have still come with Frenzy or would they have come with a Deluxe figure like another Bumblebee repaint if they were Hascon exclusives? I also have to wonder what the price would have turned out like. The three tapes are fairly reasonably priced at $35 and are almost comparable to the Walmart 2-packs for $20 and a far cry from 2-tapes and a Deluxe for $60.

On a side note, I really like the way the cartoon shading turned out on 35th Optimus and Megatron and if the Walmart reissues featured those paint jobs I would have bought them on sight!

Also...



My Amazon exclusives finally found their way home. No idea where they were, but somebody dropped them off on my front porch early Wednesday morning, long before my normal mail delivery. They're finally right where they belong. I also got a email from the local Postmaster promising to investigate what happened, I replied letting them know someone dropped it off. I also had a few stern, but not hostile, things to say about constant delivery mixups on a road that only has 13 houses on it with house numbers spread between 19 and 57, our numbers aren't that similar!

But that's not all, my Slamdance appears to be in good shape with not obvious cracks or stress marks. I moved all of his leg joints around several times and transformed him to vehicle modes and back once and aside from being a little stiff at first everything seems fine. There is some obvious loose plastic at the end of some of the pins so the holes might be either slightly too small causing stress or warped in the molding process. I only found this on the left leg, the one that is most often breaking, and not at all on the right leg.

Emerje

Kind of an indication of what a disaster of an idea Hascon was to begin with. Instead of having a line-specific convention with exclusives, panels, and events focused on that line, they provided a watered down, overpriced show with no focus at all.

My guess is that either the Mirage/Impactor/Aragon set or the Rainmakers set were originally Hascon exclusives.

Just in from DaimChoc reports on Facebook are images of the box art for Transformers War for Cybertron Seige Mirage, Impactor, Barricade, and Thundercracker. Some of these images have already been seen so far, some are new, but all of them are posted with their blacklight codes. Now you can hop onto Hasbro.com and unlock new material. We've listed the codes above each image but here's the breakdown:
Barricade: Badcop
Mirage: Turbofox
Impactor: Wreckers
Thundercracker: Seekers

Be sure to share what you find in the forums and stay tuned to Seibertron for the ultimate in Transformers news.

Badcop




Turbofox




Wreckers




Seekers

Also in from DaimChoc Reports on Facebook this morning is the newly posted chapter in the stop-motion Transformers War for Cybertron Siege series, this time picking up where the last battle left off with Cog having fallen to pieces and Optimus Prime squaring off against Megatron one on one. Maybe not quite a fair fight as Megatron is wielding the Air Strike Patrol in their combined Spyblade form. Enjoy the view and post your thoughts in the forum. As always stay tuned to Seibertron for the ultimate in Transformers news.

Missed opportunity not having Thundercrackers be “buster”

I'm so confused by Prime's victory pose there Like, it didn't look like he defeated Megatron unless I missed something???7

Sentinel_Primal wrote:I'm so confused by Prime's victory pose there Like, it didn't look like he defeated Megatron unless I missed something???7

I think it's more along the lines of Optimus Prime calling Megatron out, goading him to go fist to fist. There was no victory message or declaration, so I'm assuming this is "to be continued."

This may not seem so odd in other places but at a local Target they had 5 of the Micromaster 10 pak sitting on the shelf. While for some this may not seem odd, it does in my AO. Also, just could be that stores are just receiving stock of this set. Definitely gives those a better chance of picking them up.

SGM

Damn... Thundercracker looks so good in that art

He does, I’m definitely digging the Mirage art as well.

Skyfire is awesome, but I'm a little disappointed that the burst effects are made of soft plastic/rubber.. especially since one of the long flame effects is a little crooked. Anyone know how to fix it? (From experience.)

Also, this is my first and only SIEGE effect pack, are they all made of this material?

(This line rules BTW.)

Cyberpath wrote:Skyfire is awesome, but I'm a little disappointed that the burst effects are made of soft plastic/rubber.. especially since one of the long flame effects is a little crooked. Anyone know how to fix it? (From experience.)

Also, this is my first and only SIEGE effect pack, are they all made of this material?

(This line rules BTW.)

Yep, all the effects use the same rubbery material.

For anyone looking to get the regular release of Mirage and Impactor, Amazon's pre-order says they will be released September 1st.

I'm hoping this is like Thundercracker where Amazon had the earliest release. I've got Mirage on pre-order already and am passing on Impactor for the one in the fan vote set. However, if they are in fact getting those 2 on September 1st, I would presume they may also have Barricade since he is in the same wave.

Awesome, thanks for the heads up!

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:Skyfire is awesome, but I'm a little disappointed that the burst effects are made of soft plastic/rubber.. especially since one of the long flame effects is a little crooked. Anyone know how to fix it? (From experience.)

Also, this is my first and only SIEGE effect pack, are they all made of this material?

(This line rules BTW.)

Yep, all the effects use the same rubbery material.

Always beware of what you try but a hairdryer or warm water would probably be enough to soften it to where you could hold it straight and let it cool. They’re all like that but fortunately all the ones I have are straight they did a pretty good job with them I think. Best QC in ages.

How many repaints we must see in this line before seeing new molds?

Microbot wrote:How many repaints we must see in this line before seeing new molds?

We've probably seen all the new molds there will be for "Siege" through December. All of these repaints are just bonuses for anyone who wants them. Any new molds revealed going forward are almost certainly going to be part of the second act of the "War for Cybertron Trilogy."

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Microbot wrote:How many repaints we must see in this line before seeing new molds?

We've probably seen all the new molds there will be for "Siege" through December. All of these repaints are just bonuses for anyone who wants them. Any new molds revealed going forward are almost certainly going to be part of the second act of the "War for Cybertron Trilogy."

I don't even see what the problem is. There aren't many of what I would call "inappropriate" remolds in this line. The closest thing to it would probably be Hot Shot and Nightbird, and those are both welcome to me.

Unique Molds between Deluxe and Titan - at least 16 on first blush. I'm probably leaving something out.

Microbot wrote:How many repaints we must see in this line before seeing new molds?

there are no new molds for siege, the entire retail line up has been revealed months ago.

sol magnus wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Microbot wrote:How many repaints we must see in this line before seeing new molds?

I don't even see what the problem is. There aren't many of what I would call "inappropriate" remolds in this line. The closest thing to it would probably be Hot Shot and Nightbird, and those are both welcome to me...

Agreed. I have three futuristic Lamborghinis and I’m totally happy with it.

Why does Refraktor have blast effect ports on his tush?

emlit wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Microbot wrote:How many repaints we must see in this line before seeing new molds?

I don't even see what the problem is. There aren't many of what I would call "inappropriate" remolds in this line. The closest thing to it would probably be Hot Shot and Nightbird, and those are both welcome to me...

Agreed. I have three futuristic Lamborghinis and I’m totally happy with it.

G2 sideswipe really needs some heavier weapons. I love the paint job, and it is my favorite of the 3, but dang he needs some G2esque guns!

@ Stargrave, too funny!

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:G2 sideswipe really needs some heavier weapons. I love the paint job, and it is my favorite of the 3, but dang he needs some G2esque guns!

3P my friend!

emlit wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:G2 sideswipe really needs some heavier weapons. I love the paint job, and it is my favorite of the 3, but dang he needs some G2esque guns!

3P my friend!

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God I hope Nonnef offers at least the guns in bright eye-searing neon green.

Nice booties

Stargrave wrote:Nice booties

Moon boots, am I right?

....guys?

emlit wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:G2 sideswipe really needs some heavier weapons. I love the paint job, and it is my favorite of the 3, but dang he needs some G2esque guns!

3P my friend!

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If they color them properly I will think about it.

Actually paired him up with M.C. Smashdown. And I think that is where M.C. will be staying, it's perfect!

Total moon boots. They remind me of G1 combiner feet.

Stargrave wrote:Total moon boots. They remind me of G1 combiner feet.

I know! I totally have that same mold with my Superion.

Thanks to a new update from Snakas.blog we have new product images for Transformers War for Cybertron Siege Crosshairs, Spinister, and Leader Class Astrotrain. These are some of the best views yet of some of these characters and gives our first clear look at Astrotrain armored up with his accessories showing he does in fact have height increasing armor. You can currently pre-order Astrotrain at Entertainment Earth for $49.99 and we've included his product description listing his weapons names below. We've also included the product descriptions for Spinister and Crosshairs which also lists their weapons names. Both Spinister and Crosshairs are also available for pre-order at Entertainment Earth for $19.99 each.

Enjoy the images and share your thoughts in the forum. As always stay tuned to Seibertron for the ultimate in Transformers news.

Astrotrain's product description from Entertainment Earth:

"Build the ultimate battlefield with Siege figures. Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the Autobot and Decepticon battle to control Cybertron. The Decepticon resistance army and the Autobot counter-resistance fighters gear up with the C.O.M.B.A.T. (Cybertronian Omnifuctional Modular Battlefield Assault Tech) System, the universe's most advanced modular weaponry -- including the Decepticon menace Astrotrain. The big Leader-class figure comes with 2x JF-50 Ionic Displacer Blasters, JF-30 Astro Blaster, W-15 Destabilizer Cannon, and a W-40 Turbo-Core Derailer. Figure features multiple C.O.M.B.A.T. System weapon ports to attach weapons, enabling custom configurations in bot and vehicle modes."






Spinister's product description from Entertainment Earth:
"Build the ultimate battlefield with Siege figures. Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the Autobot and Decepticon battle to control Cybertron. The Decepticon resistance army and the Autobot counter-resistance fighters gear up with the C.O.M.B.A.T. (Cybertronian Omnifuctional Modular Battlefield Assault Tech) System, the universe's most advanced modular weaponry -- including the Decepticon menace Spinister. The Deluxe figure comes with a NFM Dual-Fusion Cannon and Spin-Blast Particle Beam Cannon. Figure features multiple C.O.M.B.A.T. System weapon ports to attach weapons, enabling custom configurations in bot and vehicle modes."





Crosshairs product description from Entertainment Earth:
"Build the ultimate battlefield with Siege figures. Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the Autobot and Decepticon battle to control Cybertron. The Decepticon resistance army and the Autobot counter-resistance fighters gear up with the C.O.M.B.A.T. (Cybertronian Omnifuctional Modular Battlefield Assault Tech) System, the universe's most advanced modular weaponry -- including the Autobot soldier Crosshairs. The Deluxe figure comes with a W-35 LR Doomblast Forge Launcher. Figure features multiple C.O.M.B.A.T. System weapon ports to attach weapons, enabling custom configurations in bot and vehicle modes."

For some reason, Crosshairs looks much better in these photos compared to previous images

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:For some reason, Crosshairs looks much better in these photos compared to previous images

For some reason, I'm turned off by the lack of a Targetmaster. I guess he could always roll with one of the existing...

sol magnus wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:For some reason, Crosshairs looks much better in these photos compared to previous images

For some reason, I'm turned off by the lack of a Targetmaster. I guess he could always roll with one of the existing...

... or wait for one to be released like with Spinister's Singe and Shrute. Trenchfoot is a pretty close match to Pinpointer, in fact.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:For some reason, Crosshairs looks much better in these photos compared to previous images

For some reason, I'm turned off by the lack of a Targetmaster. I guess he could always roll with one of the existing...

... or wait for one to be released like with Spinister's Singe and Shrute. Trenchfoot is a pretty close match to Pinpointer, in fact.

Yeah, I keep waffling on whether I want to get that pack. G2 Sideswipe is cool and all that, but he has to be a different character on my shelf.

The one packed with Legends Windblade would be ideal, but I never got them so I'll simply give him Blurr's Targetmaster from Legends Twinferno/Doublecross.

So the original listings were right then when they said that the weapons and accessories combined on Astrotrain. I really do like thd look of him and with his own launch pad he's a ready made display.