Transformers Unite Warriors Grand Galvatron New image/ Convoy Grand Prime In-hand images

"Fools! Galvatron can be any size he wants!"

Wow, are his joints that stiff, can he actually pull those poses unaided

those are some impressive poses

I really want 3/5s of Galvatron... But I dont have a need for a second Cyclobus, let alone one in that color, and Ghost Starscream is a pass for me. But I love Roller, Thrust, and Breakdown

Can't wait for Grand Galvatron. The orange cannon!

I'm really glad I have the CW version of Optimus Maximus. There's not a whole lot I like better about the UW version except Sunstreaker, Prowl's chevron, and OM's black on the legs. Not really worth the hefty shipping cost.

I'm about to buy the whole 05 set just for Sunstreaker and Mirage, I can't wait for them to show up on ebay solo.

I'm actually contemplating getting UW Defensor. The lack of handfootgun diversity doesn't bother me so much as I'll be replacing them anyway (or at least the feet) and I'm fairly proficient with a paintbrush so I could probably paint the missing detail on them. And Rook is readily available online, so even if I don't like Deluxe Groove at all I can easily replace him (I plan to get Rook regardless of who ends up in my Protectobot lineup).

There's two things tempting me towards the UW release over the CW version:

1: Groove. More limb molds is always good, after all, and Groove looks pretty nice- and the UW set is the only way to get him.
2: Hot Spot's hips. Apparently he stands up MUCH better than the US version.

The only thing seriously putting me off the set is the colours. Hot Spot has a lot of missing detail- but then again it's detail I could easily paint myself. Also, Streetwise is a rather odd shade of grey, though I think they changed it back to off-white after the initial prototype pics.

I still intend to do the customized "police" combiner with a converted Battle Core Prime, but I'm not sure on the line-up. 3 of the 4 limbs are settled on- Alpha Bravo modified into a police helicopter, Prowl and a customized CW Trailbreaker made into Strongarm. But who should be the 4th limb? If I do get UW Defensor and Rook I can use either Rook or Deluxe Groove- I'm leaning towards Rook as he'd fit with the whole police theme a bit better than a dinky little motorcycle. Or alternatively, does anyone else have any ideas for another custom I could do? I actually considered CW Brawl modified into a riot suppression vehicle (with a water cannon to replace his turret barrel, and of course painted black white and blue) but I'm not sure.

Sunstreaker looks like a banana.

Unicron Magnus wrote:Sunstreaker looks like a banana.

Great! He can join dragstrip, and they can become the 'Banana Twins'

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Unicron Magnus wrote:Sunstreaker looks like a banana.

Great! He can join dragstrip, and they can become the 'Banana Twins'

I thought Drag Strip was cheese.

Autobot N wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Unicron Magnus wrote:Sunstreaker looks like a banana.

Great! He can join dragstrip, and they can become the 'Banana Twins'

I thought Drag Strip was cheese.

So... Swiss-strip and Banana-streaker? Wait, that sounds dirty...

I always prefer Sunstreaker's Takara colour, wish I had known about Japan versions way back when I got Universe Sunstreaker.

Ordered UW Defensor/Guardian from TFS Express! Hopefully he should be here soon!

So when can we expect the next combiner silhouette? I feel like unite warriors has been pretty dry lately when it comes to news.

Takara no doubt has plans.... beyond UW-07 Bruticus. But it could go a number of directions...

You Have Sky Reign, Computron, Victorion, *supposedly* LioKaiser... Today being March 1st, and with the recent release of UW-05. I expect before the end of month to see some final production pics (perhaps in-hand or in package pics) of UW-06 Grand Galvatron & some hint of the next UW.

I recall reading something (I think was written by user Powered Convoy) that said that Bruticus's success will determine the fate of the UW line. Like, if Bruticus does well, more UW combiner sets may come. But if Bruticus doesn't meet expectations, then the UW line might not have much, if anything, left after Bruticus.

Sabrblade wrote:I recall reading something (I think was written by user Powered Convoy) that said that Bruticus's success will determine the fate of the UW line. Like, if Bruticus does well, more UW combiner sets may come. But if Bruticus doesn't meet expectations, then the UW line might not have much, if anything, left after Bruticus.

Yuki tweeted that about how the future of the line depended on he Bruticus Preorders.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:I recall reading something (I think was written by user Powered Convoy) that said that Bruticus's success will determine the fate of the UW line. Like, if Bruticus does well, more UW combiner sets may come. But if Bruticus doesn't meet expectations, then the UW line might not have much, if anything, left after Bruticus.

Yuki tweeted that about how the future of the line depended on he Bruticus Preorders.

That's interesting, is the line not doing well?

I think its more a mater of material to work with. Of the remaining CW that *could* be made into UW, Computron has G1 recognition. It would be nice to see the others get UW sets as well, but again, you never know. plus *if* Computron became UW-08, then you would end the series even with 4 Combiners for each faction, a nice way to end, also with *hopefully* a G1 toon accurate Head resculpt.

o.supreme wrote:I think its more a mater of material to work with. Of the remaining CW that *could* be made into UW, Computron has G1 recognition. It would be nice to see the others get UW sets as well, but again, you never know. plus *if* Computron became UW-08, then you would end the series even with 4 Combiners for each faction, a nice way to end, also with *hopefully* a G1 toon accurate Head resculpt.

You would think a modern Liokaiser homage would do well there too

Hellscream9999 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:I think its more a mater of material to work with. Of the remaining CW that *could* be made into UW, Computron has G1 recognition. It would be nice to see the others get UW sets as well, but again, you never know. plus *if* Computron became UW-08, then you would end the series even with 4 Combiners for each faction, a nice way to end, also with *hopefully* a G1 toon accurate Head resculpt.

You would think a modern Liokaiser homage would do well there too

Maybe outside of the main line like Grand Scourge is?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:I think its more a mater of material to work with. Of the remaining CW that *could* be made into UW, Computron has G1 recognition. It would be nice to see the others get UW sets as well, but again, you never know. plus *if* Computron became UW-08, then you would end the series even with 4 Combiners for each faction, a nice way to end, also with *hopefully* a G1 toon accurate Head resculpt.

You would think a modern Liokaiser homage would do well there too

Maybe outside of the main line like Grand Scourge is?

Legends... UW... what does it matter what line name it has slapped on it

That's what has me puzzled a bit. Admittedly Liokaiser is my favorite of the combiners that appeared in the Japanese continuation of the original TF series. however when that CW Box Art popped up I thought it a bit odd it would come out in North America. Sure we got a Jagura Kreon, but nothing beyond that.

I would absolutely LOVE for either CW or UW to release Liokaiser. I think the toys by definition lend themselves to the idea very well. But...was there any confirmation beyond the boxart rumors?

Hellscream9999 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:I think its more a mater of material to work with. Of the remaining CW that *could* be made into UW, Computron has G1 recognition. It would be nice to see the others get UW sets as well, but again, you never know. plus *if* Computron became UW-08, then you would end the series even with 4 Combiners for each faction, a nice way to end, also with *hopefully* a G1 toon accurate Head resculpt.

You would think a modern Liokaiser homage would do well there too

Maybe outside of the main line like Grand Scourge is?

Legends... UW... what does it matter what line name it has slapped on it

Grand scourge was an Ehobby exclusive

Hellscream9999 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:I think its more a mater of material to work with. Of the remaining CW that *could* be made into UW, Computron has G1 recognition. It would be nice to see the others get UW sets as well, but again, you never know. plus *if* Computron became UW-08, then you would end the series even with 4 Combiners for each faction, a nice way to end, also with *hopefully* a G1 toon accurate Head resculpt.

You would think a modern Liokaiser homage would do well there too

Maybe outside of the main line like Grand Scourge is?

Legends... UW... what does it matter what line name it has slapped on it

It makes a pretty big difference since Grand Scourge is not a mainline toy. He is an exclusive and costs a pretty penny.

Liokaiser would not work in Japan. Not because the character isnt recognized by them but because what Hasbro has worked up wouldnt be good enough for takara. Because he is so iconic, turning him into an amalgomation of Liokaiser and Deathsaurus and reducing the number of individuals would be a major insult to fans. I think this is more of a case of the G2 stuff which arent being done in Japan either. Its just a box set reusing pre-existing molds. Takara has made it quite clear that they want all their combiners to be truly unique.

Anyways, those are the reasons I dont think Japan will see a Liokaiser. It would be poetic since we didnt get him last time. And the Die Hard japanese fans who are ok with this liokaiser homage could still get him through their local Hasbro importers like they are currently doing with G2 Superion.

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:I think its more a mater of material to work with. Of the remaining CW that *could* be made into UW, Computron has G1 recognition. It would be nice to see the others get UW sets as well, but again, you never know. plus *if* Computron became UW-08, then you would end the series even with 4 Combiners for each faction, a nice way to end, also with *hopefully* a G1 toon accurate Head resculpt.

You would think a modern Liokaiser homage would do well there too

Maybe outside of the main line like Grand Scourge is?

Legends... UW... what does it matter what line name it has slapped on it

It makes a pretty big difference since Grand Scourge is not a mainline toy. He is an exclusive and costs a pretty penny.

Liokaiser would not work in Japan. Not because the character isnt recognized by them but because what Hasbro has worked up wouldnt be good enough for takara. Because he is so iconic, turning him into an amalgomation of Liokaiser and Deathsaurus and reducing the number of individuals would be a major insult to fans. I think this is more of a case of the G2 stuff which arent being done in Japan either. Its just a box set reusing pre-existing molds. Takara has made it quite clear that they want all their combiners to be truly unique.

Anyways, those are the reasons I dont think Japan will see a Liokaiser. It would be poetic since we didnt get him last time. And the Die Hard japanese fans who are ok with this liokaiser homage could still get him through their local Hasbro importers like they are currently doing with G2 Superion.

So homaging for the sake of homaging is dead in the eye's of TT, sorry, but I'm not buying that

It may not be the 'perfect' Liokaiser we all want and deserve, but, neither were the energon combiners (devs, bruticus and sups), and I'm sure those did well

Hellscream9999 wrote:So homaging for the sake of homaging is dead in the eye's of TT, sorry, but I'm not buying that

It may not be the 'perfect' Liokaiser we all want and deserve, but, neither were the energon combiners (devs, bruticus and sups), and I'm sure those did well

Why dont you buy it? They went out of their way to make a deluxe groove and shuttle blastoff, they sure as hell arent compromising for the Unite Warriors line or else they would have released a jet blast off too. If they are that anal about their combiner in this line, then there is no way they would release this Liokaiser.

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:So homaging for the sake of homaging is dead in the eye's of TT, sorry, but I'm not buying that

It may not be the 'perfect' Liokaiser we all want and deserve, but, neither were the energon combiners (devs, bruticus and sups), and I'm sure those did well

Why dont you buy it? They went out of their way to make a deluxe groove and shuttle blastoff, they sure as hell arent compromising for the Unite Warriors line or else they would have released a jet blast off too. If they are that anal about their combiner in this line, then there is no way they would release this Liokaiser.

Whatever, sounds like I'm probably right, but the only thing stopping them is their own perfectionist credo for the line

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:So homaging for the sake of homaging is dead in the eye's of TT, sorry, but I'm not buying that

It may not be the 'perfect' Liokaiser we all want and deserve, but, neither were the energon combiners (devs, bruticus and sups), and I'm sure those did well

Why dont you buy it? They went out of their way to make a deluxe groove and shuttle blastoff, they sure as hell arent compromising for the Unite Warriors line or else they would have released a jet blast off too. If they are that anal about their combiner in this line, then there is no way they would release this Liokaiser.

Sounds about right to me. Can't imagine Takara bending that much on Liokaiser with what they did with all the other combiners in Unite Warriors so far. The energon combiners was a different case to me since it was a differnt style combiner "setup" they had at the time and they didn't do the more complicated/varied ones then either. I have my pre-order in for UW Bruticus so I'm doing my part

Devastator is an amazing example of a 6 team combiner done right. I would love to see a Titan Class size Raiden ,Liokaiser, Landcross, & Dinoking (UW)/Monstructor(CW) but I know it will never happen.

o.supreme wrote:Devastator is an amazing example of a 6 team combiner done right. I would love to see a Titan Class size Raiden ,Liokaiser, Landcross, & Dinoking (UW)/Monstructor(CW) but I know it will never happen.

I would love to see them done at a smaller scale, devs had too many corners cut for both the budget, and general stability, I think a team of 6 deluxe's would work for them

I guess we have to wait and see what Takara is going to do.

It wouldn't surprise me TOO much if Takara released Hasbro's interpretation of Liokaiser, with some improvements, or as a "USA Version" (they've done similar in the past). Or they may go super G1 and replace Deathsaurus with whoever is missing. We'll see. I doubt they'll skip it altogether.

Hellscream9999 wrote:
I would love to see them done at a smaller scale, devs had too many corners cut for both the budget, and general stability, I think a team of 6 deluxe's would work for them

It was said by both Hasbro and Takara that stability had nothing to do with it. Any issue one may have is entirely related to cost control and Hasbro is fine with us knowing that.

That Bot wrote:It wouldn't surprise me TOO much if Takara released Hasbro's interpretation of Liokaiser, with some improvements, or as a "USA Version" (they've done similar in the past). Or they may go super G1 and replace Deathsaurus with whoever is missing. We'll see. I doubt they'll skip it altogether.

They are already skipping quite a bit. They arent releasing the G2 decos nor the Battle Core Torso. Takara seems to not want to do too many redecos. So my guess is we will get the Takaa version of the Skylynx mold once. It will be either as Skylynx or as Dethsaurus or something else, but not both. They will be skipping one version of this mold, I dont know which one though.

Did Japan even GET G2? That could be a reason they're not doing those. On the other side of the coin, Liokaiser is a Japanese original combiner and I would be quite surprised if they skipped it. If they wanted to avoid too much repetition, they wouldn't have released Convoy Grand Prime, which is literally a retool of Menasor.

Yes Japan did have a G2, however it was very limited. They didn't get any of the G1 recolors, only some of the new stuff (Laser Prime etc...) Also some of G2 & Machine Wars was used for BWII.

That Bot wrote:Did Japan even GET G2? That could be a reason they're not doing those. On the other side of the coin, Liokaiser is a Japanese original combiner and I would be quite surprised if they skipped it. If they wanted to avoid too much repetition, they wouldn't have released Convoy Grand Prime, which is literally a retool of Menasor.

By that Logic, Hasbro shouldnt get Liokaiser since they never got one to begin with. That fact alone takes away any certainty that a toy would be released if that same area had the original toys or not.

The only thing we know is that Takara is considering this line the end all be all for G1 combiners. Like MP but at a different scale. To the point where Bruticus' feet are colour coded. Looking at that I would be in total disbelief if they released a LioKaiser that was made up of 4 deluxe limbs with a voyager torso. That would be their only innacurate G1 combiner. How does that make sense?

So my Unite Warriors Blades broke on me. The socket where you plug in the hand-foot-gun cracked when I put in the hand-foot-gun. I've pinged an email to TFS Express asking if they can send me a replacement...which I hope they can. Considering I paid £115 for this thing- and that's the CHEAPEST I could get it for- I'll be seriously pissed if I have to order a whole new set.

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:
I would love to see them done at a smaller scale, devs had too many corners cut for both the budget, and general stability, I think a team of 6 deluxe's would work for them

It was said by both Hasbro and Takara that stability had nothing to do with it. Any issue one may have is entirely related to cost control and Hasbro is fine with us knowing that.

First off, I was the one who was on that bandwagon. I was actually referring to the thin plastic, and horrid lower arms, they had to use really thin plastic to fit the budget and make him lighter so that he wouldn't topple, and the arms were probably sacrificed for similar reasons - they all just looked so bad

That Bot wrote:It wouldn't surprise me TOO much if Takara released Hasbro's interpretation of Liokaiser, with some improvements, or as a "USA Version" (they've done similar in the past). Or they may go super G1 and replace Deathsaurus with whoever is missing. We'll see. I doubt they'll skip it altogether.

They are already skipping quite a bit. They arent releasing the G2 decos nor the Battle Core Torso. Takara seems to not want to do too many redecos. So my guess is we will get the Takaa version of the Skylynx mold once. It will be either as Skylynx or as Dethsaurus or something else, but not both. They will be skipping one version of this mold, I dont know which one though.

That's not fair to say they're skipping it, TT seems to be about 6 months behind hasbro, and since the G2 stuff just came out in what, December, we should be seeing whether TT will be using them soon, but it's still too early to dismiss it

I don't now...I'm pretty sure we wont be seeing G2 decos as part of the UW line. Especially with the rumors that continuation of the UW line depends upon Bruticus pre-orders/sales.

However I am a fan of symmetry and order, which is why Transformers is almost a constant source of frustration. Also The CW/UW line has brought me out of a 10 year stint of not purchasing any toys, that's how much I like the line, and how powerful nostalgia can be .



I posted this as it is one of my favorite pieces of TF artwork in recent memory. However it presents some challenges to reenact with CW or UW

1-No Omega Supreme (well at least not until 2018 or 2019)...
2-Sky Lynx, is now Sky Reign -I actually like this change, as I feel he would be more an even match for Predaking now but...
3-No Predaking (Hasbro as of last year stated they will not be doing any "animal" combiners...who knows if that will change
4-No Abominus (See Predaking)

Now...If I had the funds, I would actually commission Dan to do a "Part 2" of the above Battle

1.Raiden vs Piranacon (aka King Poseidon)
2.Landcross vs Dinoking
3.Road Caesar vs Liokaiser
4.Sixliner vs Monstructor
5.Guard City vs Battle Gaia

Now it gets really dicey...and uneven... There's 4 additional Autobot Combiners as part of Operation Combination that have no Decepticon counterparts...

But anyway... I always felt the micro-combiners got cheated as the toys were small in scale. The IDW Optimus Prime Spotlight (Omega Supreme vs Monstructor & origin of Combining technology), is one of my favorites. I was *hoping* Hasbro would rectify this long standing error and perhaps give them a proper update (You know if Hasbro did Monstructor then TT would do Dinoking)...But sadly I don't see this happening. I mean I love CW & UW, but with Titans Return rolling it, it will (to me at least) feel like an unfinished toy line if they don't at least offer us a few more toys before its all over.

In the comics though they retconed combiner tech as being due to Nexus Prime and his enigma of combination. Jihaxus was just trying to get it going again.

True, but my point was that it was still a cool story, and made Monstructor a force to be reckoned with, whereas before he had basically no presence in any media prior to that. Kind of an odd twist that the *last* combiner toy in the original Transformers in the United States, became the *first* in IDW's Original TF continuity.

william-james88 wrote:

That Bot wrote:Did Japan even GET G2? That could be a reason they're not doing those. On the other side of the coin, Liokaiser is a Japanese original combiner and I would be quite surprised if they skipped it. If they wanted to avoid too much repetition, they wouldn't have released Convoy Grand Prime, which is literally a retool of Menasor.

By that Logic, Hasbro shouldnt get Liokaiser since they never got one to begin with. That fact alone takes away any certainty that a toy would be released if that same area had the original toys or not.

That is not what I said. What I said was that, because Liokaiser is a Japanese creation first and foremost, and the toy exists, it would surprise me greatly if it didn't get a Japanese release. I was also debunking your assertions of mold repetition.

The only thing we know is that Takara is considering this line the end all be all for G1 combiners. Like MP but at a different scale. To the point where Bruticus' feet are colour coded. Looking at that I would be in total disbelief if they released a LioKaiser that was made up of 4 deluxe limbs with a voyager torso. That would be their only innacurate G1 combiner. How does that make sense?

With a hypothetical UW Liokaiser being a year out or more, and with Takara's demonstrated willingness to make new molds, is it so inconceivable that they would replace Deathsaurus with new molds of Leozack and Jallguar? With this being possibly the only chance they'll ever have to release a Liokaiser, I would not be surprised if Takara did this.

And again, Takara's Unite Warriors isn't all G1 all the time. It's approximating G1 with the resources they have, and then throwing in some curveballs (Convoy Grand Prime, Grand Scourge, Grand Galvatron). This guy could be Grand Deathsaurus or something. My point is, don't write it off because it has five members. I will be surprised if we don't see this in Unite Warriors somehow.

o.supreme wrote:I don't now...I'm pretty sure we wont be seeing G2 decos as part of the UW line. Especially with the rumors that continuation of the UW line depends upon Bruticus pre-orders/sales.

However I am a fan of symmetry and order, which is why Transformers is almost a constant source of frustration. Also The CW/UW line has brought me out of a 10 year stint of not purchasing any toys, that's how much I like the line, and how powerful nostalgia can be .



I posted this as it is one of my favorite pieces of TF artwork in recent memory. However it presents some challenges to reenact with CW or UW

1-No Omega Supreme (well at least not until 2018 or 2019)...
2-Sky Lynx, is now Sky Reign -I actually like this change, as I feel he would be more an even match for Predaking now but...
3-No Predaking (Hasbro as of last year stated they will not be doing any "animal" combiners...who knows if that will change
4-No Abominus (See Predaking)

Awesome artwork and I have good news to make it come true for a few. Yes, we dont have Omega Supreme but that Predaking and Skylynx battle is easy as pie to recreate. For once, the G1 toys are actually in scale, not just with oneanother but with the other CW combiners.

G1 Predaking is just as tall as the CW Combiners and G1 Skylynx ends up being in the exact same scale depicted in that pic.

Sure it's G1 so it doesnt look too hot:



But add some sparkles and...

That's pretty cool, are those pics you pulled off the Internet or your own?

@o.supreme yes, I did like that monstructor was important for once though his Japanese counterpart was prominent in Victory. Though I looming at the history of the G1 IDWverse Nexus Prime is the first combiner.

ZeroWolf wrote:That's pretty cool, are those pics you pulled off the Internet or your own?

Just google searches. I have some of my own elsehwere on this site but coldnt find them.

I was really surprised Lokasier was made before Raidan.

Unless they are holding out for a titan Raidan to complement Devastator?

Six train cars, they all could be re retools of each other heh

A Titan Raiden would be amazing, but almost certainly not going to happen. The originals were all unique molds, and like Devastator, even if two of the molds were identical (front & back cars) , and the middle were all identical passenger cars, it would not work. They would all have to be unique, like the original version and like Devastator, for their combined form to work.

o.supreme wrote:A Titan Raiden would be amazing, but almost certainly not going to happen. The originals were all unique molds, and like Devastator, even if two of the molds were identical (front & back cars) , and the middle were all identical passenger cars, it would not work. They would all have to be unique, like the original version and like Devastator, for their combined form to work.

What if the limbs were made to scramble?

Raiden, like Devastator, is not a SC Combiner. TT would never go for an inaccurate rendition. Its basically like saying...Make Devastator with limbs made to scramble... most fans would not go for it.

Remember both *Devastator* & *Raiden* came out in Japan's Diaclone line (pre-transformers). The only reason Hasbro did not purchase the Trainbots at the same time as the Constructicons back around 1983 was because -"American kids don't like/cant identify with a bullet train"