Transformers Studio Series Sentinel Prime and Scrapper Found at US Retail

Didn't Scrapper have a street date of September 1? Maybe we will get luck and get member number 8 early as well...

I vaguely remember seeing somewhere that said the Twins were around 8 feet tall? Honestly, I'd love to see a couple two packs of them, or one deluxe two pack with the ice cream truck mode, and maybe a ER Cliffjumper situation with them being released separate for their car modes so that the parts count could be used for transformation. Though, I fully expect them to be a two pack, if we ever see them

Sentinel_Primal wrote:I vaguely remember seeing somewhere that said the Twins were around 8 feet tall? Honestly, I'd love to see a couple two packs of them, or one deluxe two pack with the ice cream truck mode, and maybe a ER Cliffjumper situation with them being released separate for their car modes so that the parts count could be used for transformation. Though, I fully expect them to be a two pack, if we ever see them

Different sources list them as between 8 and 11.4 feet, and iirc in the movie itself their height varies a decent amount from scene to scene.

First-Aid wrote:Didn't Scrapper have a street date of September 1? Maybe we will get luck and get member number 8 early as well...

Scrapper was always May, with Overload being October. So Scrapper is only a few weeks early. I wouldn't get my hopes too high for Overload moving too far up.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:Didn't Scrapper have a street date of September 1? Maybe we will get luck and get member number 8 early as well...

Scrapper was always May, with Overload being October. So Scrapper is only a few weeks early. I wouldn't get my hopes too high for Overload moving too far up.

Pretty much this. I am fully anticipating any figure due out the 2nd half of the year are going to be months late compared to when they were planned to be released

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:Didn't Scrapper have a street date of September 1? Maybe we will get luck and get member number 8 early as well...

Scrapper was always May, with Overload being October. So Scrapper is only a few weeks early. I wouldn't get my hopes too high for Overload moving too far up.

Pretty much this. I am fully anticipating any figure due out the 2nd half of the year are going to be months late compared to when they were planned to be released

Possibly, but also maybe not. Remember when they were all revealed in February, many dates seemed very late to us. I thought someone at Hasbro acknowledged that they were already planning for delays. For Earthrise in particular, wave 2 was dated for September and wave 3 for November. Both would be very late for a regular schedule.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:Didn't Scrapper have a street date of September 1? Maybe we will get luck and get member number 8 early as well...

Scrapper was always May, with Overload being October. So Scrapper is only a few weeks early. I wouldn't get my hopes too high for Overload moving too far up.

Pretty much this. I am fully anticipating any figure due out the 2nd half of the year are going to be months late compared to when they were planned to be released

Possibly, but also maybe not. Remember when they were all revealed in February, many dates seemed very late to us. I thought someone at Hasbro acknowledged that they were already planning for delays. For Earthrise in particular, wave 2 was dated for September and wave 3 for November. Both would be very late for a regular schedule.

Except in the Earthrise case, Siege wave 5 WAS 2020 wave 1. Earthrise wave 1 is wave 2 2020, and so on. Wave 3 of Earthrise coming around the holidays makes sense since it is Wave 4 2020.

For Studio Series, they seem to be only doing 3 waves a year, with leaders in the first and last wave per year to spread them out appropriately. Overload coming out in September/October almost mirrors the wide release of DotM Prime from last year

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Except in the Earthrise case, Siege wave 5 WAS 2020 wave 1. Earthrise wave 1 is wave 2 2020, and so on. Wave 3 of Earthrise coming around the holidays makes sense since it is Wave 4 2020.

For Studio Series, they seem to be only doing 3 waves a year, with leaders in the first and last wave per year to spread them out appropriately. Overload coming out in September/October almost mirrors the wide release of DotM Prime from last year

Seige Wave 5 was given the official release date within 2019, made to ensure stock for the 2019 holiday season due to the line's popularity (aka more orders from retailers):

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... irs/43489/

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Except in the Earthrise case, Siege wave 5 WAS 2020 wave 1. Earthrise wave 1 is wave 2 2020, and so on. Wave 3 of Earthrise coming around the holidays makes sense since it is Wave 4 2020.

For Studio Series, they seem to be only doing 3 waves a year, with leaders in the first and last wave per year to spread them out appropriately. Overload coming out in September/October almost mirrors the wide release of DotM Prime from last year

Seige Wave 5 was given the official release date within 2019, made to ensure stock for the 2019 holiday season due to the line's popularity (aka more orders from retailers):

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... irs/43489/

Which is the 2020 wave 1 timeline: early release to get stuff out for holidays, but many will not see stock until the new year.

It is how Siege wave 1 was, Siege wave 5, and PotP Wave 1. it follows the pattern

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:Didn't Scrapper have a street date of September 1? Maybe we will get luck and get member number 8 early as well...

Scrapper was always May, with Overload being October. So Scrapper is only a few weeks early. I wouldn't get my hopes too high for Overload moving too far up.

Pretty much this. I am fully anticipating any figure due out the 2nd half of the year are going to be months late compared to when they were planned to be released

Possibly, but also maybe not. Remember when they were all revealed in February, many dates seemed very late to us. I thought someone at Hasbro acknowledged that they were already planning for delays. For Earthrise in particular, wave 2 was dated for September and wave 3 for November. Both would be very late for a regular schedule.

Except in the Earthrise case, Siege wave 5 WAS 2020 wave 1. Earthrise wave 1 is wave 2 2020, and so on. Wave 3 of Earthrise coming around the holidays makes sense since it is Wave 4 2020.

For Studio Series, they seem to be only doing 3 waves a year, with leaders in the first and last wave per year to spread them out appropriately. Overload coming out in September/October almost mirrors the wide release of DotM Prime from last year

Damnit, I'm a medic not a calendar...

While I love SS Devastator, I doubt we'll get twins perfectly in scale with him, because they sacrificed some of his height to make him fit in the limited size classes available to the Studio Series and make him more affordable.

The line basically has two robot mode scales: the most widespread one, which is the one the twins will probably use (so that they're in scale with most of the other figures, specially the car bots), and the "this character is huge but there's no Commander Class for SS" scale, which is the one used for Grimlock and Scavenger. That second scale makes sure they're bigger than most figures, but still doesn't manage to give them proper screen accurate scale.

For Devastator to truly be in scale with everyone else, Scavenger would have to be a Commander, Long Haul would have to be a leader, and the right leg should use another voyager to help Rampage/Skipjack form it. This difference in scale is easily noticed when you see all of the constructicon altmodes lined up. This of course would have made Devastator waaaay more expensive, and would have required a Commander Class toy which is something that Studio Series just won't get.

TL;DR: The twins will probably be Legends sized, and way smaller than Devastator, but probably not perfectly scaled with him, because HasTak had to make him in a smaller scale because of cost reasons.

First-Aid wrote:Damnit, I'm a medic not a calendar...

OK Dr McCoy

All I really want from the twins is them to be a size where they can sorta kinda get eaten by Devastator. Legends size is the ideal size for them here

I finally found Sentinel and Scrapper in the wild. I don't need Scrapper (if anyone does, I can get him for you for cost plus shipping) but Sentinel looks really sharp in-hand. I had made up my mind to pass on him, but it's really tempting. He looks good, even with the excess black on his legs.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I finally found Sentinel and Scrapper in the wild. I don't need Scrapper (if anyone does, I can get him for you for cost plus shipping) but Sentinel looks really sharp in-hand. I had made up my mind to pass on him, but it's really tempting. He looks good, even with the excess black on his legs.

Get him! Better to buy and resell than to pass up and forever regret it

Some Bumblebee vs. Barricade!

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Except in the Earthrise case, Siege wave 5 WAS 2020 wave 1. Earthrise wave 1 is wave 2 2020, and so on. Wave 3 of Earthrise coming around the holidays makes sense since it is Wave 4 2020.

For Studio Series, they seem to be only doing 3 waves a year, with leaders in the first and last wave per year to spread them out appropriately. Overload coming out in September/October almost mirrors the wide release of DotM Prime from last year

Seige Wave 5 was given the official release date within 2019, made to ensure stock for the 2019 holiday season due to the line's popularity (aka more orders from retailers):

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... irs/43489/

Which is the 2020 wave 1 timeline: early release to get stuff out for holidays, but many will not see stock until the new year.

It is how Siege wave 1 was, Siege wave 5, and PotP Wave 1. it follows the pattern

Its not the same thing. Early release of wave 1 still has a defined release date of January 1st. And not all stores get them that early, just some retail stores that dont care about going by those dates. Did BBTS get Siege before 2020 as early as retail did? I don't remember that being the case, but I could be wrong.

These, by contrast were actually slated for 2019. Meaning online stores and brick and mortar retail stores would have them for 2019 and not have to adhere to releasing them in 2020.

Which month in the year did BBTS/TFSource have Siege Wave 1 figures available and which month in the year did BBTS/TFSource have Siege Wave 5 figures available? I don't shop there so I wouldn't know but that would help settle this.

found the new wave deluxes today while grabbing groceries. More thoughts on them are to come, for now, appreciate Roadbuster's alt mode complete with some older toys

time to finally have this movie moment

Bravo!

Gah, I need that Shatter, but I can’t leave my house in order to get her thanks to the quarantine!

Ig89ninja wrote:Gah, I need that Shatter, but I can’t leave my house in order to get her thanks to the quarantine!

She's still in stock on pulse, or is that not an option for you?

Very cool DMax. I am really pumped for this one (and Blitzwing)

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Let's get offroadin'

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Ig89ninja wrote:Gah, I need that Shatter, but I can’t leave my house in order to get her thanks to the quarantine!

She's still in stock on pulse, or is that not an option for you?

It’s technically an option, but I have an in-store-only Target gift card that would pay her off in full, (got it when I returned a spare helicopter Dropkick I got as a gift) that I specifically saved to use on her. I just hope that quarantine will end when she’s still on the shelf.

Love shatter 2.0, miss my dropkick 2 electric-boogaloo, wish he was still with us, but I have to say, I love how she compacts together for jet mode, just really streamlined

Let's Wreck n' Rule, Bayverse Style

Now where's the Leadfoot reveal???

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Let's Wreck n' Rule, Bayverse Style

I Can't say how impressed I am with this figure. As for the Bumblebee villains,it seems that each of them got one good figure and one bad figure.

First-Aid wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Let's Wreck n' Rule, Bayverse Style

I Can't say how impressed I am with this figure. As for the Bumblebee villains,it seems that each of them got one good figure and one bad figure.

Triple-changing and the movie style do not mix.

To those who have Offroad Bee, is he worth the price? I'm really on the fence about it, as I don't have the space for it currently but if its worth it then I can make it!

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

First-Aid wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Let's Wreck n' Rule, Bayverse Style

I Can't say how impressed I am with this figure. As for the Bumblebee villains,it seems that each of them got one good figure and one bad figure.

Triple-changing and the movie style do not mix.

Heck, even Triple Changing and G1 style don't mix. The only recent Triple Changer I can think of that didn't have at least one sub-par mode was T30 Springer (and Sandstorm, for that matter).

First-Aid wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Let's Wreck n' Rule, Bayverse Style

I Can't say how impressed I am with this figure. As for the Bumblebee villains,it seems that each of them got one good figure and one bad figure.

Fully agreed. Roadbuster is a great sculpt, and I am stoked to get the full wreckers roster in armored up form!

Bee movie characters: I'm hoping Blitzwing follows the Optimus Prime route and only needs 1 good toy. Car Shatter, copter Dropkick, and VW Bee aren't very good, yet Jeep Bee, Jet Shatter, and car Dropkick are all stellar toys.

If there is 1 thing I am disappointed with in these, I would like a redo of Dropkick with a movie accurate triple changer body as a copter, so we actually have a Dropkick with the proper body/kibble like jet Shatter.

LeAwesome1 wrote:To those who have Offroad Bee, is he worth the price? I'm really on the fence about it, as I don't have the space for it currently but if its worth it then I can make it!

Offroad Bee is a pretty dang good toy, and definitely the best Bee-movie Bumblebee (including the Masterpiece).

also, the Offroad Bee has a thing I love about some recent figures: even though he has a fake robot mode chest, the real thing is right behind it, so the part ends up in the right spot, but there is a fake to make it more accurate. MP Dinobot is another similar example, and that toy also turned out great.

Autobot N wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

First-Aid wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Let's Wreck n' Rule, Bayverse Style

I Can't say how impressed I am with this figure. As for the Bumblebee villains,it seems that each of them got one good figure and one bad figure.

Triple-changing and the movie style do not mix.

Heck, even Triple Changing and G1 style don't mix. The only recent Triple Changer I can think of that didn't have at least one sub-par mode was T30 Springer (and Sandstorm, for that matter).

Well, I find both of SIEGE Springer's altmodes good, and both of Cybertron Megatron's, but both those figures are using future/alien altmodes so they have wiggle room that most don't.

The G1 style does have issues with triple-changing, yes. But the movie style is even worse due to both the higher realism standard and the much greater complexity of the aesthetic. It's so unfriendly to triple-changing, that not only did it hurt the robot mode on one version of each figure... they had to give each altmode its own figure in the first place!

After playing around with all 3 deluxes, I have to say that Shatter is the standout from this wave of deluxes. Her robot mode is so accurate and cool, and she can pose pretty dang good, definitely better than her car self. and the jet kibble isn't really a bother, it's mostly movie accurate and comes off pretty nicely.

Roadbuster is pretty good, with a stocky robot mode and a pretty beefy robot mode. He really needed to be more involved in his transformation, but he still isn't bad at all. Shatter is just better.

Bumblebee is still pretty good, and the best Bee movie Bumblebee, but honestly, he needed to be a bit bigger to properly enjoy this design. Again, not a bad one, but just not quite as good as I think it could be.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:The G1 style does have issues with triple-changing, yes. But the movie style is even worse due to both the higher realism standard and the much greater complexity of the aesthetic. It's so unfriendly to triple-changing, that not only did it hurt the robot mode on one version of each figure... they had to give each altmode its own figure in the first place!

And two of the four still sucked anyway! A real shame, since Dropkick and Shatter are easily some of the coolest Movie designs we've gotten.

Apparently Toyworld is doing them as actual Triple Changers. I wonder how that will work out...

Autobot N wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:The G1 style does have issues with triple-changing, yes. But the movie style is even worse due to both the higher realism standard and the much greater complexity of the aesthetic. It's so unfriendly to triple-changing, that not only did it hurt the robot mode on one version of each figure... they had to give each altmode its own figure in the first place!

And two of the four still sucked anyway! A real shame, since Dropkick and Shatter are easily some of the coolest Movie designs we've gotten.

Apparently Toyworld is doing them as actual Triple Changers. I wonder how that will work out...

Having seen prototypes, Shatter's car mode is kinda butt ugly thanks to the attempt.

I love their triple changer bodies, and their muscle car bodies. They made some excellent designs with those 2, truly awesome movie styled cons.

The biggest problems and differences between G1 and Movie Triplechangers is that the G1 characters start with two convincing alt modes and then try to build a bot somehow out of the in between transformation. Movie Triplechangers start with a bot mode that has elements of their alt modes and then fake the transformations. of course then you've got Movie Drift who is like, "yeah, I also turn into a helicopter" even though he doesn't have any visible helicopter parts (aside from the swords on his back). Never understood why they didn't just repaint a Springer figure, I guess they don't like crossing lines like that and are really attached to his realistic car alt mode.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:The biggest problems and differences between G1 and Movie Triplechangers is that the G1 characters start with two convincing alt modes and then try to build a bot somehow out of the in between transformation.

To be fair, that's an extension of the general design process for the Diaclone Car Robots and Micro Change robots - they started with the real thing and built a bot into the pieces. I'd say another part of the problem is just the sheer difference between the altmodes (which impacts the movie characters too). G1 Blitzwing probably suffers the most of all Transformers on that account; his wings end up super chunky. The absolute worst though was the jet-helicopter design - that one was so janky Hasbro scrapped their plan to sell it as a Transformer.

Emerje wrote:Movie Triplechangers start with a bot mode that has elements of their alt modes and then fake the transformations. of course then you've got Movie Drift who is like, "yeah, I also turn into a helicopter" even though he doesn't have any visible helicopter parts (aside from the swords on his back). Never understood why they didn't just repaint a Springer figure, I guess they don't like crossing lines like that and are really attached to his realistic car alt mode.

Emerje

Given some of the other redecoes from AoE, I'm still surprised they didn't redeco T30 Springer into Drift.


They did THIS for crying out loud!

I wonder if they could have been Duocons. The car transforms into the legs and crotch while the jet transforms into the torso, arms and head. 1 car, 1 flying vehicle, 1 bot for each of them. Yes, not true triplechangers, but closer than what they are now. The big question was how to market them? 1 package with 2 legends class figures that combine, kind of like Arcee, or a deluxe for each vehicle, which would have required the purchase of both parts. But in that case, it could have gone the Energon route, and the parts could have been mixed up.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I wonder if they could have been Duocons. The car transforms into the legs and crotch while the jet transforms into the torso, arms and head. 1 car, 1 flying vehicle, 1 bot for each of them.

And then they could have renamed Dropkick into Battletrap.

They honestly could have done that anyway, he seems to have a lot of influence from Battletrap and it wouldn't have clashed with the previous use of the name Dropkick.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:They honestly could have done that anyway, he seems to have a lot of influence from Battletrap and it wouldn't have clashed with the previous use of the name Dropkick.

Except the previous use of Dropkick actually lines up fairly well with how this one turned out.

I would not change anything about Shatter and Dropkick, i think they nailed them both by adding in 2 new triple changers that are a great bad guy duo who live up to the name "Decepticons" and are a good strong addition to the mythos.

Plus, I think a duocon in real life without 2 separate robot modes for the components (like PotP Battletrap) would be pretty useless if one couldn't carry around the other

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:They honestly could have done that anyway, he seems to have a lot of influence from Battletrap and it wouldn't have clashed with the previous use of the name Dropkick.

Except the previous use of Dropkick actually lines up fairly well with how this one turned out.

In the "grumbling about being on Earth" way, maybe. But the other major aspect (Mass-produced drone guy) isn't present.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I would not change anything about Shatter and Dropkick

I would. I'd have had them just stick to one altmode at a time for sanity's sake. I would also have made the movie they were in less of a hijack, but that's getting off-topic.

By all accounts Shatter and Dropkick seemed to be inspired by Movie toy line characters Fracture and Dropkick, their TFwiki article has more details and the possible connection.

If Shatter was inspired by Fracture the name change might of had something to do with legal stuff and/or the Gobot connection of Fracture.

Also Zelda Dropkick from 2007 was both a mass produced Drone and a individual character, and there is no reason that just because we didn't see it in Bumblebee does it mean that Dropkick drones don't also exist in that universe.

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Those are some nice deals.

Personally, my movie Starscream itch would be satisfied by someone doing a clay impression of the HFTD Leader's head and sending it to me so I can fabricate a head for mine.

Helicopter Drift is still horrendously over priced.

I just returned from a snack run to my local meijer and low and behold they where having 25% all size classes! So who did I pick up? The freshly put out jet Shatter and Jeep Bee! Only opened Shatter so far and shes a lovely toy. The transformation is nicely involved and everything fits and tabs together securely. The addition of the movable rear thruster nozzles like a real Harrier jump jet is a nice touch. I also really like the matte black accents used throughout. Overall just really blown away so far. All the jets in the Studio Series line have been pretty solid

Ironhidensh wrote:Helicopter Drift is still horrendously over priced.

I disagree, that is actually a pretty dang good toy, far better than the Dropkick use

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:Helicopter Drift is still horrendously over priced.

I disagree, that is actually a pretty dang good toy, far better than the Dropkick use

And Helicopter Dropkick is actually pretty good IMO - it’s not a good Dropkick at all (and since Studio Series is all about screen accuracy I see why people don’t like it), but as a generic Decepticon I think it’s actually pretty cool!

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:Helicopter Drift is still horrendously over priced.

I disagree, that is actually a pretty dang good toy, far better than the Dropkick use

And Helicopter Dropkick is actually pretty good IMO - it’s not a good Dropkick at all (and since Studio Series is all about screen accuracy I see why people don’t like it), but as a generic Decepticon I think it’s actually pretty cool!

I'm with you on Heli-kick. Solid generic con, with a fun transformation. I simply like how they got a reasonably normal width bot out of such a skinny helicopter.