Transformers: SIEGE Deluxe Autobot Chromia Video Review!

Wolfman Jake wrote:It seems like the Transformer: SIEGE line has just barely gotten the entirety of Wave 1 into brick and mortar stores in the United States, and already, we have some exciting stuff to show you for Wave 2, fellow Seibertronians! YouTuber TonTon has just published a video on his channel of the upcoming Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Deluxe Chromia! As usual, TonTon gives us a good look at the conversion of Chromia from Cybertronian car to robot and back again, giving us a good look at the detailing sculpted into this figure. Chromia may share some engineering inspiration with her forbearers in the Power of the Primes line, Moonracer and Novastar, and the upcoming Greenlight (and maybe Lancer too?), but there are some key differences with her transformation that set her apart form her teammates. As such, we know for absolute certain that Chromia has no Combiner Wars or Power of the Primes combiner compatibility. TonTon also gives us some size comparisons with other figures from various lines in both robot mode and vehicle mode to give you a good sense of scale. The video is narrated in English by a computer generated voice. Check it out below.

What do you think of this latest figure of Chromia? Will she be worth adding to your collections, or are you content with some previous releases of this character? Tell us what you think in the comments below, and keep tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest news on all things Transformers!

carytheone wrote:

Emerje wrote:

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:He's got headlights on top and on the front of his cab, so what are those circular bits on the lower corner of the cab? They kinda look like gatling guns.

I hadn't noticed these weren't lights until I had him in hand. They definitely look like guns to me.

Emerje

Well there is only one logical conclusion then!



The way his legs are articulated makes him almost infinitely posable. This is the figure (line) that just keeps on giving.

Nemesis Maximo wrote:How is Siege the perfect platform to do Trainbots? Jon Warden is hard pressed to do a reference to anything that isn’t super Geewun; we’re all super excited at the mere possibility that a future Leader Class Optimus Prime will be styled after Galaxy Convoy, and that’s a definite maybe. But you expect the TF Design Team to do Trainbots?

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

Nemesis Maximo wrote:How is Siege the perfect platform to do Trainbots? Jon Warden is hard pressed to do a reference to anything that isn’t super Geewun; we’re all super excited at the mere possibility that a future Leader Class Optimus Prime will be styled after Galaxy Convoy, and that’s a definite maybe. But you expect the TF Design Team to do Trainbots?

Reintroduce figures that never had one, with a Cybertronian altmode. Plus, just from the Bots mentioned there is one Triple Changer and Five Gestalts. The latter would really interest the Design Team, given none of the Gestalts have had modernisation since a minor retool in 2003 with Rail Racer, 2001 with JRX and 1987 with Raiden.

What can't they do with these figures? Certainly a bit more interesting than another naff car or truck.

Z3ROhour wrote:hmmm...
SKYTREAD
the gun mount in tank mode is too tight and aims down.
or did i do something wrong?

DeathReviews wrote:A Chromia that uses the Moonracer mold, but has NO combiner limb capability? That's like being served a pizza without any cheese or toppings. Pass.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:It's not a fully new mold from what people have determined; it's got a tiny handful of recycled parts similar to PotP Jazz recycling a few of Drag Strip's parts.

Regardless, the backpack isn't due to the combiner limb nature of the Moonracer mold's engineering. The backpack is due to the fact that Floron the Moron Dery gave the Female Autobots curvy robot modes and angular vehicle modes and the designers are trying to accommodate both.

Z3ROhour wrote:hmmm...
SKYTREAD
the gun mount in tank mode is too tight and aims down.
or did i do something wrong?

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

Nemesis Maximo wrote:How is Siege the perfect platform to do Trainbots? Jon Warden is hard pressed to do a reference to anything that isn’t super Geewun; we’re all super excited at the mere possibility that a future Leader Class Optimus Prime will be styled after Galaxy Convoy, and that’s a definite maybe. But you expect the TF Design Team to do Trainbots?

Reintroduce figures that never had one, with a Cybertronian altmode. Plus, just from the Bots mentioned there is one Triple Changer and Five Gestalts. The latter would really interest the Design Team, given none of the Gestalts have had modernisation since a minor retool in 2003 with Rail Racer, 2001 with JRX and 1987 with Raiden.

What can't they do with these figures? Certainly a bit more interesting than another naff car or truck.

Nemesis Maximo wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

Nemesis Maximo wrote:How is Siege the perfect platform to do Trainbots? Jon Warden is hard pressed to do a reference to anything that isn’t super Geewun; we’re all super excited at the mere possibility that a future Leader Class Optimus Prime will be styled after Galaxy Convoy, and that’s a definite maybe. But you expect the TF Design Team to do Trainbots?

Reintroduce figures that never had one, with a Cybertronian altmode. Plus, just from the Bots mentioned there is one Triple Changer and Five Gestalts. The latter would really interest the Design Team, given none of the Gestalts have had modernisation since a minor retool in 2003 with Rail Racer, 2001 with JRX and 1987 with Raiden.

What can't they do with these figures? Certainly a bit more interesting than another naff car or truck.

I’m not saying it wouldn’t be cool, I’m saying that the current TF design team, led by ‘Geewun Jon’ Warden is about as likely to start making new toys of obscure (even by obscure standards) characters as Santa Claus is to start delivering presents in August.

steals_your_goats wrote:Are you forgetting all the obscure characters we've gotten in the past few years? Skylynx, Sky Shadow, two different Metalhawks, all the fem bots, punch/Counterpunch, both duocons and on and on. There's no real reason to think that train bots are any more obscure than anything we've gotten recently. Hell we even got (a version of) Liokaiser. Nothing is off the table.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Well, I don't know that you can call Astrotrain or Team Bullet Train "obscure" Although honestly, I think Team Bullet Train would be best served by a reissue - they're modern-design toys already and their molds are still viable. The RiD characters that most need remaking are in fact cars - the Autobot Brothers' molds have been confirmed as too degraded, and Prowl and X-Brawn's designs had some ill-advised use of clear plastic (especially Prowl).

I would like to see modernized versions of the Trainbots even if it seems unlikely with Warden's biases, since as Diaclone-originating bricks they need it the most. Even if they were going to be made, I doubt it would be during SIEGE simply because there's no room left in the line for them

There might possibly be room for Astrotrain, but then again maybe not. I wouldn't mind getting a new toy of him at some point in the WFC trilogy - if and only if it was Earth-modes. For one thing, we already got a Cybertronian mode Astrotrain during Titans Return. For another, steam locomotives are super awesome.

steals_your_goats wrote:Are you forgetting all the obscure characters we've gotten in the past few years? Skylynx, Sky Shadow, two different Metalhawks, all the fem bots, punch/Counterpunch, both duocons and on and on. There's no real reason to think that train bots are any more obscure than anything we've gotten recently. Hell we even got (a version of) Liokaiser. Nothing is off the table.

....Are you entirely clear on the meaning of the word "obscure"?
Sky Lynx and Punch/Counterpunch aren't obscure. Sky Lynx featured heavily in Season 3 of the G1 cartoon and was featured in the Marvel, Dreamwave, and IDW comics as well. Punch/Counterpunch was prominent in The Rebirth. Black Shadow was brought into western fans' awareness more prominently by the IDW comics. Metalhawk was similarly lifted by both Wings of Honor and the IDW comics.
The Duocons are a bit more obscure, but were still known to western fans from the Marvel comics, the IDW comics, and their original toy commercial.

Raiden on the other hand has never shown up in a western continuity, although he's at least well known to Japanophile G1 fans.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:It's not a fully new mold from what people have determined; it's got a tiny handful of recycled parts similar to PotP Jazz recycling a few of Drag Strip's parts.

Regardless, the backpack isn't due to the combiner limb nature of the Moonracer mold's engineering. The backpack is due to the fact that Floron the Moron Dery gave the Female Autobots curvy robot modes and angular vehicle modes and the designers are trying to accommodate both.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Fair points starfish...

In my defense, the thing that really got my goat was calling Sky Lynx obscure.

Regarding Crosscut and Acid Storm, they had the benefit of being ways to milk molds of characters that are more known - Crosscut was a logical choice as the alternate head for a Skids mold, and Acid Storm was "Guy they could redeco Starscream as that wouldn't undermine the recent convention exclusives".
Come to think of it, Generations Sky Shadow (the first recent(ish) Black Shadow toy we got) was the same way as Crosscut - a logical (because the original Black Shadow was a retool of the original Thunderwing because the Pretender concept fell flat in Japan) retool of the Generations Thunderwing toy to milk the mold. And TR Sky Shadow was made as much as a way of getting more out of (most of) the Overlord mold as he was for his own sake.

Also, if you're talking about the Fearswoop I think you are then he's really a Hooligan homage

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Anywho, I don't know which Chromia to go for. The T30 Prime Arcee retool just for being unique, or the Siege Moonracer part cannibal for being similar....

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Such is the pain of the Leader-class' mass limit these days. If it was at its Unicron Trilogy through HFTD (and possibly DOTM but not sure) limit then it might be possible for their respective super modes to be substantially bigger compared to the Voyager inner robot, but nowadays that would require them to be Supreme-class.

Bah. That's a corporate excuses.

Partly. But it's also just the way the size class system works. As far as the Hasbro toylines go Transformers has been grouped into rigid, uniform size classes since the days of Beast Wars. And the plastic-per-item limit is the overarching rule by which each size class is defined. Not the height, not how much space it takes up, but how many milligrams of plastic go into it.

Ironhidensh wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Such is the pain of the Leader-class' mass limit these days. If it was at its Unicron Trilogy through HFTD (and possibly DOTM but not sure) limit then it might be possible for their respective super modes to be substantially bigger compared to the Voyager inner robot, but nowadays that would require them to be Supreme-class.

Bah. That's a corporate excuses.

Partly. But it's also just the way the size class system works. As far as the Hasbro toylines go Transformers has been grouped into rigid, uniform size classes since the days of Beast Wars. And the plastic-per-item limit is the overarching rule by which each size class is defined. Not the height, not how much space it takes up, but how many milligrams of plastic go into it.

CW Magnus(UW, whatever) weighs a full ounce less than Siege Magnus. Mass limit thrown straight out the window!

Ironhidensh wrote:I'm saying he is too damn small.

Ironhidensh wrote:I'm saying he is too damn small.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:I'm saying he is too damn small.

Okay, I'm just trying to understand what height has to do with mass limit, that's all.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:I'm saying he is too damn small.

Okay, I'm just trying to understand what height has to do with mass limit, that's all.

Ironhidensh wrote:I'm saying he is too damn small.

william-james88 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:I'm saying he is too damn small.

Small for a leader class? Small for 50$? Or too small an Ultra Magnus to scale with voyager Prime?

Sentinel_Primal wrote:TonTon just released a video about Prowl. Which makes me wonder: How do these reviewers manage to get their hands on these guys so early?!

Rainmaker wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:TonTon just released a video about Prowl. Which makes me wonder: How do these reviewers manage to get their hands on these guys so early?!

They steal products from factories most likely

ZeroWolf wrote:Does that include the new Sideswipe exclusive rumoured to be a G2 version that also comes with Slamdance? I think we know all main line releases so that just leaves exclusives...

ZeroWolf wrote:Does that include the new Sideswipe exclusive rumoured to be a G2 version that also comes with Slamdance? I think we know all main line releases so that just leaves exclusives...

Hellscream9999 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Does that include the new Sideswipe exclusive rumoured to be a G2 version that also comes with Slamdance? I think we know all main line releases so that just leaves exclusives...

Wait, we know who we're getting in waves 3-4? for deluxe, voyager and leader? what are the remaining wave breakdowns?

Emerje wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Does that include the new Sideswipe exclusive rumoured to be a G2 version that also comes with Slamdance? I think we know all main line releases so that just leaves exclusives...

Wait, we know who we're getting in waves 3-4? for deluxe, voyager and leader? what are the remaining wave breakdowns?

We don't know the actual wave breakdown, but we know the remaining characters:

Brunt (Weaponizer)
Impactor
Mirage
Red Alert
Refraktor
Barricade

Barricade is the only one that hasn't been officially announced yet but hasn't shown up in art and leaks. That's 14 figures to PotPs 13 Deluxe so it isn't likely there'll be another Deluxe in this line. We might actually get two figures in wave 4 this time, can't picture them doing five in wave 3. Probably Barricade and Red Alert since they're repaints.

Emerje

Hellscream9999 wrote:Does this include voyagers? and does this mean no other leaders?

Emerje wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Does this include voyagers? and does this mean no other leaders?

I forgot we do know most of them and edited my post. Wave 3 Voyagers is Thundercracker and Springer. Wave 2 Leader is definitely Optimus Prime from Ultra Magnus, probably paired with a Shockwave again and then a new mold for wave 3 if PotP is anything to go by.

Emerje