Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview
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The past two chapters of Transformers: Ongoing has seen two fan-favorite characters being blasted in the chest. Will both of them survive? Courtesy of Comic Book Resources, we have five-page preview of Transformers: Ongoing #14. Check out the covers, description and the preview below!
You'll find Transformers: Ongoing #14 in your local comic store this Wednesday!
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Two Autobots felled in the past two issues and the punishment is only beginning! A shocking revelation and an unexpected attack begins the “REVENGE OF THE DECEPTICONS,” the storyline that leaves a lot more Autobots on the operating table, and their entire future on Earth in question—and also features the return of superstar artist DON FIGUEROA!
You'll find Transformers: Ongoing #14 in your local comic store this Wednesday!
Keep it at Seibertron.com for the latest Transformers news on the net!
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Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1154693)
Posted by Chaoslock on December 7th, 2010 @ 4:19am CST
Posted by Chaoslock on December 7th, 2010 @ 4:19am CST
So he just went and ordered the gun on the net?
That's one convenient explanation...
That's one convenient explanation...
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1154703)
Posted by BATTLEMASTER IIC on December 7th, 2010 @ 5:21am CST
Posted by BATTLEMASTER IIC on December 7th, 2010 @ 5:21am CST
Awww Don is back 
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1154705)
Posted by Heavy B on December 7th, 2010 @ 5:30am CST
gotta love craigs list
Posted by Heavy B on December 7th, 2010 @ 5:30am CST
Chaoslock wrote:So he just went and ordered the gun on the net?
That's one convenient explanation...
gotta love craigs list
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1154726)
Posted by bluecatcinema on December 7th, 2010 @ 7:27am CST
Posted by bluecatcinema on December 7th, 2010 @ 7:27am CST
Is it just me, or does Rumble's head look a little out of proportion?
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1154728)
Posted by dragons on December 7th, 2010 @ 7:35am CST
Posted by dragons on December 7th, 2010 @ 7:35am CST
go don its nice to get change once & while like to see more detail in there faces once in while intersted see how soundwave looks in this art
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1154736)
Posted by Optimutt on December 7th, 2010 @ 7:47am CST
Posted by Optimutt on December 7th, 2010 @ 7:47am CST
Y'know, when I first heard that G1 was going on-going, I was thrilled. I was ecstatic and bouncing off the walls. Then came the first issue. Don's art was atrocious, the story was mediocre at best, and the characterizations were dull. Fast forward a dozen issues and Don's art is better, but the story is still rubbish. A human. Again. Blowing big holes in robots. Again. Forgive me, but Budianski did this so much better in the original take on this story, way back in issue 13. When Megatron's alt mode actually served its function. The only good thing that this book has to offer is that Prime B gets shot in the chest. Sadly, there'll be no drama and he won't die, but at least he gets the shot.
My expectations for this series have been unalterably quashed. Next up, Zombies - another potentially crap storyline. And after that, who knows? The only way to drop my esteem of this series is by giving us a Christmas episode. Highly Disappointing, IDW, highly disappointing.
My expectations for this series have been unalterably quashed. Next up, Zombies - another potentially crap storyline. And after that, who knows? The only way to drop my esteem of this series is by giving us a Christmas episode. Highly Disappointing, IDW, highly disappointing.
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1154757)
Posted by Counterpunch on December 7th, 2010 @ 9:08am CST
Posted by Counterpunch on December 7th, 2010 @ 9:08am CST
Can't we just leave Cliffjumper alone?
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1154766)
Posted by Darth Bombshell on December 7th, 2010 @ 9:38am CST
Actual coincidences are less coincidental than this. This is yet another example of Costa's favoritie style of storytelling: present incredibly controversial and stupid act now, present equally/greater controversial and stupid reason for it later.
Also, Yay! for the return of the Movie-styled designs.[/sarcasm] Didn't IDW get the memo that the fans hated them?
Oh, yeah. They're pretty much ignoring the fans these days. The fact that they let Costa stay on as writer is all the proof we need of that.
Posted by Darth Bombshell on December 7th, 2010 @ 9:38am CST
Chaoslock wrote:So he just went and ordered the gun on the net?
That's one convenient explanation...
Actual coincidences are less coincidental than this. This is yet another example of Costa's favoritie style of storytelling: present incredibly controversial and stupid act now, present equally/greater controversial and stupid reason for it later.
Also, Yay! for the return of the Movie-styled designs.[/sarcasm] Didn't IDW get the memo that the fans hated them?
Oh, yeah. They're pretty much ignoring the fans these days. The fact that they let Costa stay on as writer is all the proof we need of that.
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1154773)
Posted by Angelus on December 7th, 2010 @ 9:47am CST
Posted by Angelus on December 7th, 2010 @ 9:47am CST
I am really lost my interest in this G1 comic...
Preview pages of the Transformers... Yet it has no Transformers in it except for the final page (the covers not counted of course) and even that Transformer is shot by a human with a bang...
IDW has totally lost their way.
At first I just didn't like the updated characters but the stories were okay... But now... *sigh*
I have been re-reading the DW G1 comics and those people knew how to tell a story. What they told in 6 issues, IDW cannot tell in 14 issues.
The stories are just going nowhere fast, well, going nowhere slow because their story telling is so slow that by the time they reach some kind of conclusion, nobody remembers what the issue was anyway.
IDW should kill off this series...
Pick up where G1 season 2 left off en build from there. Enough stories to tell untill the movie and plenty of characters to build that were unknown by then but known since the movie.
Characters that everybody remembers and get Furman to tell the stories.
Fans will read it and non-fans might remember some characters.
Now, non-fans do not recognise anybody and fans, well, same story. They don't recognise anybody; not the way the characters are drawn (although I must admit this is getting better) and not the way these characters are acting...
IDW: Get your act together or get out!
You can pull off G.I. Joe, why not Transformers???
Preview pages of the Transformers... Yet it has no Transformers in it except for the final page (the covers not counted of course) and even that Transformer is shot by a human with a bang...
IDW has totally lost their way.
At first I just didn't like the updated characters but the stories were okay... But now... *sigh*
I have been re-reading the DW G1 comics and those people knew how to tell a story. What they told in 6 issues, IDW cannot tell in 14 issues.
The stories are just going nowhere fast, well, going nowhere slow because their story telling is so slow that by the time they reach some kind of conclusion, nobody remembers what the issue was anyway.
IDW should kill off this series...
Pick up where G1 season 2 left off en build from there. Enough stories to tell untill the movie and plenty of characters to build that were unknown by then but known since the movie.
Characters that everybody remembers and get Furman to tell the stories.
Fans will read it and non-fans might remember some characters.
Now, non-fans do not recognise anybody and fans, well, same story. They don't recognise anybody; not the way the characters are drawn (although I must admit this is getting better) and not the way these characters are acting...
IDW: Get your act together or get out!
You can pull off G.I. Joe, why not Transformers???
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1154803)
Posted by Stormwolf on December 7th, 2010 @ 10:57am CST
Posted by Stormwolf on December 7th, 2010 @ 10:57am CST
I dropped the title a while back, these preview pages are a confirmation to me that the comic is still ass.
Even Brad Mick wrote better stories then this
Even Brad Mick wrote better stories then this
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1154823)
Posted by Oilspill on December 7th, 2010 @ 11:42am CST
Posted by Oilspill on December 7th, 2010 @ 11:42am CST
OK, enough is enough. I should have stopped buying ongoing a long time back, but that's it for me now. I don't hate humans in Transformers fiction, in fact I think they are quite necessary, but I've had enough of humans killing TFs easy as pie. I'm guessing Soundwave was manipulating the guy to assassinate BB, but that doesn't make it any better - like the previous 13 issues, it looks like it is still going to be a steaming pile of crap.
I will get any decent looking minis, like LSOTW, Ironhide & Drift, but no more ongoing for me. I'm out.
I will get any decent looking minis, like LSOTW, Ironhide & Drift, but no more ongoing for me. I'm out.
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1154831)
Posted by The Legend on December 7th, 2010 @ 12:17pm CST
Posted by The Legend on December 7th, 2010 @ 12:17pm CST
Neither this or the 10 page preview over at TFW have made me reconsider giving this up. How much longer 'til IDW goes with a reboot with a decent writer? That's the only way they'll get any of my money again.
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1154841)
Posted by Windsweeper on December 7th, 2010 @ 1:16pm CST
Posted by Windsweeper on December 7th, 2010 @ 1:16pm CST
What ever did happen to Brad Mick? I loved Dreamwave G1 stuff. For one thing, he knew the characters.
Actually, what happened to Simon Furman? While I wasn't happy with another G1 reboot, especially with so many major changes, his 'ation' series' were great. Wish he kept Thunderwing's Matrix affinity though, his Marvel run was the best version of Transformers. Oh if only we could get Furman and Mick. Furman's sense of the epic and Mick's characterisations.
Slag it, let Roche write the ongoing. He does Prowl brilliantly.
I have to agree with the earlier poster, the Marvel and Dreamwave stories never dragged or gave so much focus to humans, well furman didn't. I could have done without Budiansky's Mechanic, Circuit Breaker and Robotmaster.
Actually, what happened to Simon Furman? While I wasn't happy with another G1 reboot, especially with so many major changes, his 'ation' series' were great. Wish he kept Thunderwing's Matrix affinity though, his Marvel run was the best version of Transformers. Oh if only we could get Furman and Mick. Furman's sense of the epic and Mick's characterisations.
Slag it, let Roche write the ongoing. He does Prowl brilliantly.
I have to agree with the earlier poster, the Marvel and Dreamwave stories never dragged or gave so much focus to humans, well furman didn't. I could have done without Budiansky's Mechanic, Circuit Breaker and Robotmaster.
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1154859)
Posted by Supreme Convoy on December 7th, 2010 @ 2:04pm CST
So are his arms!
Seriously though. I'm really enjoying the series and I'm always puzzled by the reactions. I don't agree that the book is "slow" but I do understand that the story is being told in an arc like most modern comics so it can be sold in a paperback later thus the pacing is different as opposed to stand alone issues.
Instead of listing things you don't like about comic, what do you want to see in the ongoing?
Posted by Supreme Convoy on December 7th, 2010 @ 2:04pm CST
bluecatcinema wrote:Is it just me, or does Rumble's head look a little out of proportion?
So are his arms!
Seriously though. I'm really enjoying the series and I'm always puzzled by the reactions. I don't agree that the book is "slow" but I do understand that the story is being told in an arc like most modern comics so it can be sold in a paperback later thus the pacing is different as opposed to stand alone issues.
Instead of listing things you don't like about comic, what do you want to see in the ongoing?
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1154862)
Posted by geterman on December 7th, 2010 @ 2:17pm CST
Posted by geterman on December 7th, 2010 @ 2:17pm CST
I got my issue yesterday. I was a good read. The preview pages don't do it justice. The ending was real good I was surprised. Can wait for next month. Even though I hate the Bay-formers design. I actually like these. A hybrid of the two. At least I can tell them apart unlike in the bay movies.
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1154863)
Posted by Chaoslock on December 7th, 2010 @ 2:18pm CST
Mike Costas head rolling?
Posted by Chaoslock on December 7th, 2010 @ 2:18pm CST
Supreme Convoy wrote:Instead of listing things you don't like about comic, what do you want to see in the ongoing?
Mike Costas head rolling?
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1154872)
Posted by Darth Bombshell on December 7th, 2010 @ 2:37pm CST
How, exactly? It's not supposed to be out until tomorrow, and I doubt any store would have gotten it already. (And even if they did, they sure as hell shouldn't have sold it before tomorrow.)
1). A decent storyline that doesn't come off as being written the night before.
2). A plot that's engaging and interesting.
3). Characterization that stays true to the characters, not characterization that suits the storyline.
4). Human characters that aren't ciphers and stock cliches.
5). No character deaths that aren't simply for shock value. If you're going to kill someone off, make him sympathetic and make us care.
Posted by Darth Bombshell on December 7th, 2010 @ 2:37pm CST
geterman wrote:I got my issue yesterday.
How, exactly? It's not supposed to be out until tomorrow, and I doubt any store would have gotten it already. (And even if they did, they sure as hell shouldn't have sold it before tomorrow.)
Supreme Convoy wrote:Instead of listing things you don't like about comic, what do you want to see in the ongoing?
1). A decent storyline that doesn't come off as being written the night before.
2). A plot that's engaging and interesting.
3). Characterization that stays true to the characters, not characterization that suits the storyline.
4). Human characters that aren't ciphers and stock cliches.
5). No character deaths that aren't simply for shock value. If you're going to kill someone off, make him sympathetic and make us care.
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1154886)
Posted by Stormwolf on December 7th, 2010 @ 3:16pm CST
1. Characters that stay consistent, so no more dumbing down to fit the story
2. More post 1986 characters, most cartoon oriented writers are scared to do this
3. Massive Autobot and Decepticon armies, no more petty gangwars
4. Focus on the Transformers, not on the humans
5. More Wreckers style violence
6. Transformers staying true to their powers and abilities, a little bit of acid shouldn't damage a TF too much
7. Bring back more obscure characters, Xaaron and Flame would be good characters
8. Furman style Grimlock
9. Budiansky style Blaster
10. Smeltingpools, I shouldn't have to explain this one
11. Thunderwing restored to full sanity
12. Citybot battles, G1 has 6 citybots to use for this
13. More Japan exclusive characters, Star Saber, Deathsaurus, and Metalhawk would make awesome commanders
14. Quintesons as a credible threat, not villains of the week
15. Shockwave as a leader
16. Omega Supreme vs Liokaiser, this battle would be beyond awesome
This any good?
Posted by Stormwolf on December 7th, 2010 @ 3:16pm CST
Supreme Convoy wrote:Instead of listing things you don't like about comic, what do you want to see in the ongoing?
1. Characters that stay consistent, so no more dumbing down to fit the story
2. More post 1986 characters, most cartoon oriented writers are scared to do this
3. Massive Autobot and Decepticon armies, no more petty gangwars
4. Focus on the Transformers, not on the humans
5. More Wreckers style violence
6. Transformers staying true to their powers and abilities, a little bit of acid shouldn't damage a TF too much
7. Bring back more obscure characters, Xaaron and Flame would be good characters
8. Furman style Grimlock
9. Budiansky style Blaster
10. Smeltingpools, I shouldn't have to explain this one
11. Thunderwing restored to full sanity
12. Citybot battles, G1 has 6 citybots to use for this
13. More Japan exclusive characters, Star Saber, Deathsaurus, and Metalhawk would make awesome commanders
14. Quintesons as a credible threat, not villains of the week
15. Shockwave as a leader
16. Omega Supreme vs Liokaiser, this battle would be beyond awesome
This any good?
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1154959)
Posted by Doctor McGrath on December 7th, 2010 @ 8:29pm CST
Posted by Doctor McGrath on December 7th, 2010 @ 8:29pm CST
Is that Bee or CJ?
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1154964)
Posted by Blurrz on December 7th, 2010 @ 8:38pm CST
Bee
Posted by Blurrz on December 7th, 2010 @ 8:38pm CST
amcgrath929 wrote:Is that Bee or CJ?
Bee
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1154967)
Posted by Doctor McGrath on December 7th, 2010 @ 8:48pm CST
Thank you sir.
Maybe with BB getting taken down, Hot Rod getting blasted, Prime can take control again. You know, grow out of this emo stage he is in.
Posted by Doctor McGrath on December 7th, 2010 @ 8:48pm CST
Blurrz wrote:amcgrath929 wrote:Is that Bee or CJ?
Bee
Thank you sir.
Maybe with BB getting taken down, Hot Rod getting blasted, Prime can take control again. You know, grow out of this emo stage he is in.
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1155016)
Posted by Angelus on December 8th, 2010 @ 3:45am CST
What I like to see in a Transformers comic?
- A Transformers driven story
- They transform to hide and blend in... thus not a military part of some kind of 'Earth Force'
- Stay true to the characters and the way they look; The characters have to look the part!
- Faster pacing / (if it has to fit a TPB) better/longer story. For instance 6 issues Dreamwave told a great story, 6 issues IDW do not tell anything that could not have been told in 2 issues)
- Stop the reboot en continue somewhere that happened before. Plenty to dig up!
- Finish the effing stories! (What happened to the Quintessons from the final page of the Wheelie issue?)
- Get Simon Furman back! Or any Dreamwave writer, just get Mr. Costa out. He can tell a story just not a Transformers story!
- Did I already write that the characters have to stay true to who they are?
It is just sad to see that many fanmade Mosaics are better than what the official publisher can release...
Posted by Angelus on December 8th, 2010 @ 3:45am CST
Supreme Convoy wrote:bluecatcinema wrote:Instead of listing things you don't like about comic, what do you want to see in the ongoing?
What I like to see in a Transformers comic?
- A Transformers driven story
- They transform to hide and blend in... thus not a military part of some kind of 'Earth Force'
- Stay true to the characters and the way they look; The characters have to look the part!
- Faster pacing / (if it has to fit a TPB) better/longer story. For instance 6 issues Dreamwave told a great story, 6 issues IDW do not tell anything that could not have been told in 2 issues)
- Stop the reboot en continue somewhere that happened before. Plenty to dig up!
- Finish the effing stories! (What happened to the Quintessons from the final page of the Wheelie issue?)
- Get Simon Furman back! Or any Dreamwave writer, just get Mr. Costa out. He can tell a story just not a Transformers story!
- Did I already write that the characters have to stay true to who they are?
It is just sad to see that many fanmade Mosaics are better than what the official publisher can release...
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1155041)
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on December 8th, 2010 @ 6:48am CST
Not just you. Also looks butt ugly.
When there's something to like, we will. Okay, seriously? They had an awesome storyline going on pre-AHM and Shane McCarthy effin' it all up. It was G1, but not the same old same old. It was familiar, yet original enough not to be a rehash with this crap.
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on December 8th, 2010 @ 6:48am CST
bluecatcinema wrote:Is it just me, or does Rumble's head look a little out of proportion?
Not just you. Also looks butt ugly.
Supreme Convoy wrote:bluecatcinema wrote:Is it just me, or does Rumble's head look a little out of proportion?
So are his arms!
Seriously though. I'm really enjoying the series and I'm always puzzled by the reactions. I don't agree that the book is "slow" but I do understand that the story is being told in an arc like most modern comics so it can be sold in a paperback later thus the pacing is different as opposed to stand alone issues.
Instead of listing things you don't like about comic, what do you want to see in the ongoing?
When there's something to like, we will. Okay, seriously? They had an awesome storyline going on pre-AHM and Shane McCarthy effin' it all up. It was G1, but not the same old same old. It was familiar, yet original enough not to be a rehash with this crap.
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1155115)
Posted by geterman on December 8th, 2010 @ 10:21am CST
Posted by geterman on December 8th, 2010 @ 10:21am CST
@ Darth Bombshell - I have a subscription directly with IDW, so it comes right to my house.
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1155869)
Posted by Supreme Convoy on December 9th, 2010 @ 10:25pm CST
Posted by Supreme Convoy on December 9th, 2010 @ 10:25pm CST
SPOILERS AHEAD!
Read it yesterday and really dug it.
I was wondering how a normal person was able to take down Bumblebee with ease. I was floored to discover that someone is mass producing Megatron guns.
And I've got to say I really like Don's redesign for Frenzy & Rumbles. I've liked those characters but this is the first time I've seen them as dangerous. Wicked design.
Man, I'm really excited about "Revenge of the Decepitcons."
Read it yesterday and really dug it.
I was wondering how a normal person was able to take down Bumblebee with ease. I was floored to discover that someone is mass producing Megatron guns.
And I've got to say I really like Don's redesign for Frenzy & Rumbles. I've liked those characters but this is the first time I've seen them as dangerous. Wicked design.
Man, I'm really excited about "Revenge of the Decepitcons."
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1155889)
Posted by Pyrostrata on December 9th, 2010 @ 11:38pm CST
Posted by Pyrostrata on December 9th, 2010 @ 11:38pm CST
As much as I would LIKE to like this series, I just cannot keep interested. The story just isn't good enough to be carried by mediocre-to-downright-bad art...Yes, I am looking RIGHT at you, Don! I bought a few issues during the time when Don wasn't doing the art and was just struck with the total "meh" of the story...Some of the ideas are nice, but I just cannot get into it!
Now that Don and his BSC art is back, I am just plain done with Ongoing.
Too bad.
Now that Don and his BSC art is back, I am just plain done with Ongoing.
Too bad.
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1155980)
Posted by Darth Bombshell on December 10th, 2010 @ 8:30am CST
You should be "floored". It's a plot twist that makes no damn sense at all. Of course, crafting plot twists that make no damn sense at all is what Costa's (sadly) known for, so on that level, I don't know why you would be surprised at all.
Posted by Darth Bombshell on December 10th, 2010 @ 8:30am CST
Supreme Convoy wrote:I was floored to discover that someone is mass producing Megatron guns.
You should be "floored". It's a plot twist that makes no damn sense at all. Of course, crafting plot twists that make no damn sense at all is what Costa's (sadly) known for, so on that level, I don't know why you would be surprised at all.
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1156387)
Posted by hook line and sinker on December 11th, 2010 @ 3:57pm CST
Posted by hook line and sinker on December 11th, 2010 @ 3:57pm CST
Well, could it be a forum where logical criticism of the ongoing wreck can be discussed without the risk of getting mobbed torn limb from limb by the fans who like it?
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1156540)
Posted by Stormwolf on December 12th, 2010 @ 9:49am CST
Yes, but make sure that you explain why you dislike something. Simply saying "it sucks" isn't a good enough reason.
Posted by Stormwolf on December 12th, 2010 @ 9:49am CST
hook line and sinker wrote:Well, could it be a forum where logical criticism of the ongoing wreck can be discussed without the risk of getting mobbed torn limb from limb by the fans who like it?
Yes, but make sure that you explain why you dislike something. Simply saying "it sucks" isn't a good enough reason.
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1157882)
Posted by trence5 on December 15th, 2010 @ 7:07pm CST
.....umm, Optimus - you really need to look into getting an upgrade.... like NOW!!
Posted by trence5 on December 15th, 2010 @ 7:07pm CST
.....umm, Optimus - you really need to look into getting an upgrade.... like NOW!!
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1158308)
Posted by Angelus on December 17th, 2010 @ 4:01am CST
What can I say?
It is in no way related to any G1 at all anymore...
Give it a new title, let the 2,5 people that still buy and read this enjoy it and start or pick up a G1 series that everybody can relate to.
This is getting way out of hand...
Hasbro should have stepped up or, like with so many things, they just don't care as long as the title 'Transformers' is out there...
This is not G1 to me...
Posted by Angelus on December 17th, 2010 @ 4:01am CST
trence5 wrote:#-o
What can I say?
It is in no way related to any G1 at all anymore...
Give it a new title, let the 2,5 people that still buy and read this enjoy it and start or pick up a G1 series that everybody can relate to.
This is getting way out of hand...
Hasbro should have stepped up or, like with so many things, they just don't care as long as the title 'Transformers' is out there...
This is not G1 to me...
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1158492)
Posted by Chaoslock on December 17th, 2010 @ 1:21pm CST
Megatrons new look I like, as it is a step out of the eternal G1 looks.
Too bad they forced the Witwickys into this continuity, I liked the IDWverse better before them. On second thought, it is a funny parallel, that the helper of G1 autobots was a builder, while the IDW equivalent is a soldier. Could sign the approach of the writers.
As for the issue: DULL SURPRISE! The art was bad, and having half the pages full with humans showing dull surprise without a decent dialogue didn't help either.
This issue was weak. The autobots didn't place a single guard beside the captured decepticons, and there is only four-five autobots at the base (in the same room)?
Smokescreen could have been anybody, and when I read Costas writing, I can't imagine the bots having more than one "voice" - they all have the same characteristics.
Posted by Chaoslock on December 17th, 2010 @ 1:21pm CST
Angelus wrote:trence5 wrote:#-o
What can I say?
It is in no way related to any G1 at all anymore...
Give it a new title, let the 2,5 people that still buy and read this enjoy it and start or pick up a G1 series that everybody can relate to.
This is getting way out of hand...
Hasbro should have stepped up or, like with so many things, they just don't care as long as the title 'Transformers' is out there...
This is not G1 to me...
Megatrons new look I like, as it is a step out of the eternal G1 looks.
Too bad they forced the Witwickys into this continuity, I liked the IDWverse better before them. On second thought, it is a funny parallel, that the helper of G1 autobots was a builder, while the IDW equivalent is a soldier. Could sign the approach of the writers.
As for the issue: DULL SURPRISE! The art was bad, and having half the pages full with humans showing dull surprise without a decent dialogue didn't help either.
This issue was weak. The autobots didn't place a single guard beside the captured decepticons, and there is only four-five autobots at the base (in the same room)?
Smokescreen could have been anybody, and when I read Costas writing, I can't imagine the bots having more than one "voice" - they all have the same characteristics.
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1158553)
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on December 17th, 2010 @ 4:44pm CST
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on December 17th, 2010 @ 4:44pm CST
That is the dumbest version of megatron I think I've ever seen. 
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1162117)
Posted by Stormer on December 26th, 2010 @ 9:56am CST
Every once in a while, there's a glimmer of hope, a little piece in the story that if it was given half a chance, could blossom into a story that would knock our socks of. Ok, so it's no secret that I am the eternal optimist who wants this series to succeed, but I'm really starting to reach out kinda desperately here. I want to like this, and it's just not manifesting the way I need it to - the way that will make this series a classic - in 20 years, how are we going to remember Ongoing? Mediocre and lackluster and un-exciting and (ugh) Don's art - Don, you are better than this.
The mass produced Megatron gun portion of the story, to me, is a pretty sinister plot twist. Soundwave talking humans into killing Autobots - that's a little scary too. I'm pretty tired of Transformers as hired military muscle for various world dictatorships. I'm tired of Autobots downgraded to cave dwellers at the mercy of the U.S. Government. I'm tired of roving Decepticons who don't really do much or pose much of a threat. It's like the whole of the Transformers on earth are depressed or something. Give me Autobots vs. Decepticons. Give me one good knock down, drag out battle scene where someone gets beat - by another robot. What, LSOTW wasn't a big enough hint as to what the fans want?
God! Thank you! How are we supposed to know what people like/don't like if you don't have something to say about it? You just can't be afraid to throw out your opinions on something - and for God's sake, don't just agree with what others are saying! What's the point of having a discussion if no one discusses anything? While I don't agree with ripping someone apart for having a thought, don't let that discourage you from voicing what you think! Besides, keep in mind that we're trying to get through IDW's thick skulls (* oh, is that yet another example of me being too optimistic? *
)to get some things changed for the better.
Sometimes things just don't get changed until everyone is pissed!
Posted by Stormer on December 26th, 2010 @ 9:56am CST
Supreme Convoy wrote:Instead of listing things you don't like about comic, what do you want to see in the ongoing?
Every once in a while, there's a glimmer of hope, a little piece in the story that if it was given half a chance, could blossom into a story that would knock our socks of. Ok, so it's no secret that I am the eternal optimist who wants this series to succeed, but I'm really starting to reach out kinda desperately here. I want to like this, and it's just not manifesting the way I need it to - the way that will make this series a classic - in 20 years, how are we going to remember Ongoing? Mediocre and lackluster and un-exciting and (ugh) Don's art - Don, you are better than this.
The mass produced Megatron gun portion of the story, to me, is a pretty sinister plot twist. Soundwave talking humans into killing Autobots - that's a little scary too. I'm pretty tired of Transformers as hired military muscle for various world dictatorships. I'm tired of Autobots downgraded to cave dwellers at the mercy of the U.S. Government. I'm tired of roving Decepticons who don't really do much or pose much of a threat. It's like the whole of the Transformers on earth are depressed or something. Give me Autobots vs. Decepticons. Give me one good knock down, drag out battle scene where someone gets beat - by another robot. What, LSOTW wasn't a big enough hint as to what the fans want?
Stormwolf wrote:hook line and sinker wrote:Well, could it be a forum where logical criticism of the ongoing wreck can be discussed without the risk of getting mobbed torn limb from limb by the fans who like it?
Yes, but make sure that you explain why you dislike something. Simply saying "it sucks" isn't a good enough reason.
God! Thank you! How are we supposed to know what people like/don't like if you don't have something to say about it? You just can't be afraid to throw out your opinions on something - and for God's sake, don't just agree with what others are saying! What's the point of having a discussion if no one discusses anything? While I don't agree with ripping someone apart for having a thought, don't let that discourage you from voicing what you think! Besides, keep in mind that we're trying to get through IDW's thick skulls (* oh, is that yet another example of me being too optimistic? *
)to get some things changed for the better.Sometimes things just don't get changed until everyone is pissed!
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1163126)
Posted by Hans on December 29th, 2010 @ 6:27am CST
Posted by Hans on December 29th, 2010 @ 6:27am CST
Hey guys. I read most of the negative comments here, and although others have already spoken out on IDW's forums about their opinions on the ongoing, I also did the same here:
http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?t=9024.
Feel free to chime in with your opinions (negative or positive), as I feel IDW needs to know how the fandom feels about their series. I decided to register on their forums just to let them know this is going all wrong... in my opinion.
http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?t=9024.
Feel free to chime in with your opinions (negative or positive), as I feel IDW needs to know how the fandom feels about their series. I decided to register on their forums just to let them know this is going all wrong... in my opinion.
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1163345)
Posted by Stormer on December 29th, 2010 @ 6:56pm CST
Good job, Hans! IDW does need to know how we feel. Either they make some changes, or they're going to lose Ongoing - which would make me very sad.
I've been the cheerleader for 14 issues now and it's hard to keep up the positive when there's nothing to cheer about. It's past time for an exciting, dynamic, edge-of-your-seat kind of story that will have us all breathless and wanting more. I'm gonna just have to let IDW have it - even though you've already said it best! 
Posted by Stormer on December 29th, 2010 @ 6:56pm CST
Hans wrote:Hey guys. I read most of the negative comments here, and although others have already spoken out on IDW's forums about their opinions on the ongoing, I also did the same here:
http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?t=9024.
Feel free to chime in with your opinions (negative or positive), as I feel IDW needs to know how the fandom feels about their series. I decided to register on their forums just to let them know this is going all wrong... in my opinion.
Good job, Hans! IDW does need to know how we feel. Either they make some changes, or they're going to lose Ongoing - which would make me very sad.
I've been the cheerleader for 14 issues now and it's hard to keep up the positive when there's nothing to cheer about. It's past time for an exciting, dynamic, edge-of-your-seat kind of story that will have us all breathless and wanting more. I'm gonna just have to let IDW have it - even though you've already said it best!
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1163397)
Posted by trence5 on December 29th, 2010 @ 9:45pm CST
whaaa....?!? This version of Megatron looks like he could take out Galvatron by himself!!!
Posted by trence5 on December 29th, 2010 @ 9:45pm CST
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:That is the dumbest version of megatron I think I've ever seen.
whaaa....?!? This version of Megatron looks like he could take out Galvatron by himself!!!
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1163424)
Posted by Hans on December 30th, 2010 @ 1:37am CST
Thanks!
Posted by Hans on December 30th, 2010 @ 1:37am CST
Stormer wrote:Hans wrote:Hey guys. I read most of the negative comments here, and although others have already spoken out on IDW's forums about their opinions on the ongoing, I also did the same here:
http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?t=9024.
Feel free to chime in with your opinions (negative or positive), as I feel IDW needs to know how the fandom feels about their series. I decided to register on their forums just to let them know this is going all wrong... in my opinion.
Good job, Hans! IDW does need to know how we feel. Either they make some changes, or they're going to lose Ongoing - which would make me very sad.
Thanks!
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1163425)
Posted by fenrir72 on December 30th, 2010 @ 2:21am CST
Posted by fenrir72 on December 30th, 2010 @ 2:21am CST
It's been like nearly 2 years since I read a TF IDW comic. It well downhill in AHM......DW despite all it's faults(Pat Lee mainly) had a much better take IMHO.
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1163936)
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on December 31st, 2010 @ 4:01pm CST
That is a Megatron so fanwanked and messed up it'd be a wonder he could move around. And what the hell is on his right arm there?
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on December 31st, 2010 @ 4:01pm CST
trence5 wrote:RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:That is the dumbest version of megatron I think I've ever seen.
That is a Megatron so fanwanked and messed up it'd be a wonder he could move around. And what the hell is on his right arm there?
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1169456)
Posted by mistaloko on January 15th, 2011 @ 8:10am CST
Posted by mistaloko on January 15th, 2011 @ 8:10am CST
Bad issue bad artwork
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1169467)
Posted by Stormer on January 15th, 2011 @ 9:20am CST
Why do you think it's bad? Please explain what it was you don't like about it. Don't just go along with what everyone else is saying -give us your opinion in detail.
Thank you.
Posted by Stormer on January 15th, 2011 @ 9:20am CST
mistaloko wrote:Bad issue bad artwork
Why do you think it's bad? Please explain what it was you don't like about it. Don't just go along with what everyone else is saying -give us your opinion in detail.
Thank you.
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1169476)
Posted by mistaloko on January 15th, 2011 @ 9:39am CST
Posted by mistaloko on January 15th, 2011 @ 9:39am CST
Nice.
Line work looks rushed at some points, color work is too simplistic it has no dynamic...
Movie verse faces on G1 characters. G1 needs to be done as G1!
I buy these books every single month hoping to have a suprise and it´s always the same disappoint get it? It´s been 15 months and still nothing...
Thats the reason of my disapointment.
Im not saying these people aren´t good artists, it just seems they aren´t putting a real effort in these books
Happy?
Line work looks rushed at some points, color work is too simplistic it has no dynamic...
Movie verse faces on G1 characters. G1 needs to be done as G1!
I buy these books every single month hoping to have a suprise and it´s always the same disappoint get it? It´s been 15 months and still nothing...
Thats the reason of my disapointment.
Im not saying these people aren´t good artists, it just seems they aren´t putting a real effort in these books
Happy?
Re: Transformers: Ongoing #14 Five-Page Preview (1169480)
Posted by Stormer on January 15th, 2011 @ 9:48am CST
I'm always happy! I just wanna know your opinion in detail - kinda like your post in the Transformers: Ongoing #15 Five-Page Preview. It's really not enough to just say "I don't like this." If changes need made, there needs to be details. For discussion purposes, there needs to be discussion.
I don't argue well. But I will prod you into giving up what you really think in living color detail.
That is all. Hope you're happy too!
Posted by Stormer on January 15th, 2011 @ 9:48am CST
mistaloko wrote:Nice.
Bad line work, color work is too simplistic... Megatron looks awfull
Happy?
I'm always happy! I just wanna know your opinion in detail - kinda like your post in the Transformers: Ongoing #15 Five-Page Preview. It's really not enough to just say "I don't like this." If changes need made, there needs to be details. For discussion purposes, there needs to be discussion.
I don't argue well. But I will prod you into giving up what you really think in living color detail.
That is all. Hope you're happy too!
