Transformers Legacy Bludgeon Design Notes

The only thing I wish they did was retool the chest. The paint apps help, but I still see Tarn's chest plate. It's not a dealbreaker, just a wish.

sol magnus wrote:The only thing I wish they did was retool the chest. The paint apps help, but I still see Tarn's chest plate. It's not a dealbreaker, just a wish.

I agree, he really only needed the new chest to truly stand apart

That Bludgeon is 100% pure disappointment.
Seriously.

Now, if only Super 7 would release their damn figures already!

For those of you playing along at home, Amazon finally swapped the images and descriptions on their exclusive listings for the two packs. Guess they got tired of all the returns. Pretty sure they reset the reviews, too.

Emerje

Speaking of Tarn those fans that managed to secure said figure did those of you score at retail? We are to expect Tarn to hit retail on the horizon and be just be as illousive as Cosmos?

For anyone that hasn't noticed on eBay the figure is as pricey as Cosmos. In fact some mental seller wants over $400 for the figure!

Nemesis Destron wrote:Speaking of Tarn those fans that managed to secure said figure did those of you score at retail? We are to expect Tarn to hit retail on the horizon and be just be as illousive as Cosmos?

For anyone that hasn't noticed on eBay the figure is as pricey as Cosmos. In fact some mental seller wants over $400 for the figure!

I've never seen him in stores, I'm still waiting for Entertainment Earth to ship mine which they've delayed several times already (now expected in August). He was single packed with Leo Prime so if you've seen him in stores you've missed Tarn. His artificial rarity plus high demand are what's leading to those high aftermarket prices.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Nemesis Destron wrote:Speaking of Tarn those fans that managed to secure said figure did those of you score at retail? We are to expect Tarn to hit retail on the horizon and be just be as illousive as Cosmos?

For anyone that hasn't noticed on eBay the figure is as pricey as Cosmos. In fact some mental seller wants over $400 for the figure!

I've never seen him in stores, I'm still waiting for Entertainment Earth to ship mine which they've delayed several times already (now expected in August). He was single packed with Leo Prime so if you've seen him in stores you've missed Tarn. His artificial rarity plus high demand are what's leading to those high aftermarket prices.

Emerje

Got Tarn on Amazon and it's been delayed as well

Nemesis Destron wrote:Speaking of Tarn those fans that managed to secure said figure did those of you score at retail? We are to expect Tarn to hit retail on the horizon and be just be as illousive as Cosmos?

For anyone that hasn't noticed on eBay the figure is as pricey as Cosmos. In fact some mental seller wants over $400 for the figure!

I found mine in Target months back.

Cyber Bishop wrote:

Nemesis Destron wrote:Speaking of Tarn those fans that managed to secure said figure did those of you score at retail? We are to expect Tarn to hit retail on the horizon and be just be as illousive as Cosmos?

For anyone that hasn't noticed on eBay the figure is as pricey as Cosmos. In fact some mental seller wants over $400 for the figure!

I found mine in Target months back.

Really? And if what Emerje said is a fact on the count per box that hits shelves I may try to hunt for a great deal unless another wave of Tarn figures is released....then quickly sell out of course.

Nemesis Destron wrote:Speaking of Tarn those fans that managed to secure said figure did those of you score at retail? We are to expect Tarn to hit retail on the horizon and be just be as illousive as Cosmos?

For anyone that hasn't noticed on eBay the figure is as pricey as Cosmos. In fact some mental seller wants over $400 for the figure!

I got mine in store and have seen him a few times. He's not sticking around, but it's not unheard of to see him.

I've never seen Tarn in stores, ever.

I've seen Tarn twice a while ago, before Amazon pre-orders started shipping. The first time I bought him and cancelled my pre-order and the second time was about a week later. Both times at Target, but 2 different stores.

I have not seen Tarn in stores, but I have seen Lio Convoy at least 4 times, so Tarn was there, and was promptly bought out before I got there

I saw one Tarn and one Leo Prime once in Target.
And that was the only time I've seen Tarn.
Originally he was one I was willing to wait to get if/when he went on a sale.
Really glad I bought him.
Even though I still think Jhiaxus is a better figure overall, Tarn is a welcomed, fresh and unexpected addition to the collection.

sol magnus wrote:I got mine in store and have seen him a few times. He's not sticking around, but it's not unheard of to see him.

Same. I've seen plenty of all the voyagers at Target. Though strangely I've seen Armada Starscream and BW Inferno AFTER the first two waves of Legacy Evolution. But while Tarn and Twincast being shrtpacked sell quicker, even when Ive seen some stores with 4 Leo's or 4 Metalhawks. They are moving and not shelf warming.

Emerje wrote:For those of you playing along at home, Amazon finally swapped the images and descriptions on their exclusive listings for the two packs. Guess they got tired of all the returns. Pretty sure they reset the reviews, too.

Emerje

My Orion Pax and Senator Shockwave set should be delivered today. I hope it actually is the right set this time! I’ll let you all know either way.

Update! Yes, I got the right set this time.

Got a cheap Armada Starsacream during Prime Day, and I'm of 2 minds about it.

While it does do some things better than the original, I can't help but miss the original's size, heft and gimmicks.

The Jet mode is good, If a bit odd to get the legs in position, at least they hold up correctly.

The original had a bad tendency of not allowing the legs to clip on to the underside of the plane, so they'd just dangle below it.

Surprisingly enough I don't miss the sounds. They got annoying really fast, but I would have liked at least a couple of missiles to plug into the shoulder cannons.

The folding cannons are great improvement.

The Wing Sword never worked well in my copy, it was super floppy, so I appreciate the solid one this one has. The tiny Star Saber on the other hand is just silly. I think it goes better with Hot Shot. Which is not half bad all things considered.







Weirdly I have a stress mark on Starscrem's right foot.




Picked up Bulkhead for 15 bucks too, but have not yet opened him.

Amazon has charged me for The Nemesis, so I imagine it will be shipping soon.

o.supreme wrote:Amazon has charged me for The Nemesis, so I imagine it will be shipping soon.

Mine hasn't shipped yet, but supposedly will arrive Monday.

Emerje

Since we are/were doing figure sighting bingo again, I guess I'll throw in what I've seen of Evolution thus far.
Target: Core Waves 1-3, Animated Prowl, Crosscut, Leo Prime, Metalhawk, Twincast, Blitzwing, Armada Megatron (supplemented by last year's Deluxe Wave 3, Voyager Wave 3, and Galvatron)
Walmart: Crosscut, Metalhawk (supplemented by last year's Core Wave 1, Deluxe Wave 3, Jhiaxus, Galvatron, and Blitzwing)
Gamestop: Scarr, Beachcomber, Blitzwing
Local comic store: Slug, Bomb-Burst, Grimlock, Scraphook, Needlenose, Armada Hot Shot, Deluxe Wave 2, Axlegrease, Voyager Wave 2, Nemesis Leo, Prime Skyquake (supplemented by last year's Deluxe Wave 2, Crankcase, Skullgrin, Pointblank, Voyager Wave 3, and Blitzwing)

So far I've bought Metalhawk at Walmart (and Dead End because I never saw him last year), the comic store provided me with Needlenose and Shrapnel, and then I got Bomb-Burst, Scarr, Crashbar, Animated Prowl, Leo Prime, Tarn, Twincast, and Prime Skyquake all online because either they were available online before they were at brick-and-mortar, I never saw them at brick-and-mortar (Tarn), or it was cheaper to get them online than it was at the comic store. Everything else I'm planning to get this year either isn't out yet (all of Wave 4 sans Snarl, exclusives) and/or I'm intending to get on sale if possible (Nemesis).

My Pulse packages finally arrived, including my Copy Convoy, Armada Megatron, and Armada Optimus Prime.

Full disclosure on Copy Convoy: i was not going to get him, because I do not like the Legacy Lio Convoy mold. But with the colors and some pictures a buddy took, I decided to get him anyways. He's not bad. I like lion mode, and the colors are very nice. It's just the robot mode that I do not like. So he will likely remain in beast mode.

Armada Megatron is interesting. I was excited for him, and I do like him, but I feel the whole "he's too vanilla" thing. He needed the blade in the left arm, the face plate for alt mode to slide instead of flip, and I feel like he needed some of his compartments jointed. He's just a bit too bland really. i like him, don't get me wrong, but this may be the first case where i miss the gimmicks compared to the articulation. Which, I hate that he has Legacy Laser Prime shoulders. Bah.

Armada Optimus Prime, however, obliterates everything in Legacy this year. This isn't just figure of the year; this is the figure of Legacy so far. He is incredible. The alt mode is chunky, strong, and just looks mean. Robot mode is really nice, and very posable. And the super mode is perfect. He puts Motormaster/Menasor to shame in every capacity. He's well painted, beautiful colors, and so so playable. He is amazing, plain and simple. And he is purposely compatible with the old overload toy, which adds to the fun.

I'd love to try the overload combination with my Armada Prime when it comes, but I just can't bring myself to bust out a 20 year old toy.

I finally decided to open and fiddle with my Nemesis.

First and foremost, something that is never shown in any reviews. When you open the box, you notice right away that the thing must obviously be assembled.



These tiny planes are as small as a 10 cents coin. Luckily, they peg in solidly.



Assembling everything is just a matter of minutes and is easily done. The ship is huge and magnificent.





The transformation isn't harder than the Ark. Once again, you'll have to deal with 2 panels that pop off too easily. There's even stress marks on it.



The bot mode is imposing and is decently articulated. She's pretty bad-ass looking. I know her face is supposed to be a , but that's not the face of a fembot. Especially not whit that small chin beard. I mean, come on now.



Despite the face mishaps, I fin her adorable with her sailgun and her little cheerleader flag.



She pair perfectly well with the Ark.



Overall, she's well worth it. And surprisingly, with minimum hollows. Appart for the obvious articulated hands, I wonder what a D.N.A. de sign upgrade kit would offer to improves her? A new face? A big-ass flight stand?

TlDr; get Nemesis. She's awesome.

Considering all the lilac accents on the upper body and arms. The lack of any details at all on the legs/shins, looks really off.

-Kanrabat- wrote:I finally decided to open and fiddle with my Nemesis.

... .... Anyway....

Glad you are enjoying it. Mine is flying in from Texas, should arrive on Tuesday.

o.supreme wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I finally decided to open and fiddle with my Nemesis.

... .... Anyway....

Glad you are enjoying it. Mine is flying in from Texas, should arrive on Tuesday.

You'll enjoy your big Madame and her manly goat patch!

I definitely want one, but with Haslabs and all that I'm going to wait until it goes on sale. I'm glad you guys can take the plunge, though!

sol magnus wrote:I definitely want one, but with Haslabs and all that I'm going to wait until it goes on sale. I'm glad you guys can take the plunge, though!

Do you mean the Nemesis?
Oh, it will be on sale sooner or later. Just wait.

It's just that for me, I wanted it ASAP and my local geek store will give store credits for used Transformers. The store credit is good at around 50% of the value, PLUS TAXES. I didn't paid any cash and I got rid of some fluff while getting Nemesis early. I got so many things from that store in this way!

o.supreme wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I finally decided to open and fiddle with my Nemesis.

... .... Anyway....

Glad you are enjoying it. Mine is flying in from Texas, should arrive on Tuesday.

Mine was supposed to ship Friday and arrive Monday, but instead it shipped Sunday afternoon and now due Tuesday. At least the price came down by $10 since my order so I saved some more that way.

Emerje

-Kanrabat- wrote:I finally decided to open and fiddle with my Nemesis.

First and foremost, something that is never shown in any reviews. When you open the box, you notice right away that the thing must obviously be assembled.

What...some assembly required??? Damnation!!!

Nemesis Destron wrote:
What...some assembly required??? Damnation!!!

The ark too required some assembly. But the Nemesis have a few more parts to assemble. Plus, the guns and ships on a sprue tickled my hobbyist bone.

I'm waiting on the Nemesis price to drop some before I get her myself

ScottyP wrote::checks emails: I do see that, but someone else did several hours beforehand, thus the new credit went to them. Sorry! I know it can be hard to know when it takes awhile for stuff to go up, but if you're interested in helping us be better at that we pretty much always need new volunteers for news staff. Anyway, the submission is much appreciated regardless, so thank you

Ah, it's fine. I'd had a bad night and was salty about something unrelated and it spilled out here a little. I was News Staff many years ago and (should!) know better. Unfortunately I'm still busy with too many other things in life, the reason I stepped down all those years ago. It was good fun being part of the team though.

~ Grim

SDCC Breakfast event has the first reveal of the day, pics from TFW & Toyark:

Woop something actually new (ish) to see. Weird how having the minicon completes the figure (sarcasm) but it does make it look better in car mode for having Jolt there. About time the new toys caught upto the old. Might pick this one up though it's definitely going to cost more with all the blast effects.

Those new guns that he comes with are based on ones he used in the Armada episode titled "Dash".

Dammit, i did not want to get the Powerlinx decos, but here we are.

Nemesis Primal wrote:SDCC Breakfast event has the first reveal of the day, pics from TFW & Toyark:

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That looks great, so much better than the original, I'll definitely buy this set! And the box art teases what looks like an Armada Thrust from the Earthrise Seeker mould, not ideal, but it would be great if Thrust also came with a Mini-Con and blast effects.

Will this Hotshot be sold as a deluxe, a voyager, or will it be some exclusive like RedCog with its own price point?

-Kanrabat- wrote:Will this Hotshot be sold as a deluxe, a voyager, or will it be some exclusive like RedCog with its own price point?

I would guess a Red Cog style price point and package

Awesome news.

Loving the deco. If course I do.

And the fact he gets Jolt now and a couple of extra guns is awesome.

Of course the minicon, and extra guns and blast effects effectively means he is now a voyager priced figure right?

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Will this Hotshot be sold as a deluxe, a voyager, or will it be some exclusive like RedCog with its own price point?

I would guess a Red Cog style price point and package

The pics show a big windowless box, suggesting a unique pricepoint outside of the normal size classes, since it's a set that comes with a Mini-Con, two new gun accessories, and blast effects.

Munkky wrote:And the box art teases what looks like an Armada Thrust from the Earthrise Seeker mould, not ideal, but it would be great if Thrust also came with a Mini-Con and blast effects.

....I don't know how I feel about that retool. Interesting note though, now that I'm looking at the background more closely, I think this box art is based off this shot from the episode the extra weapons are from, considering not just the Decepticon base backdrop but also Thrust's presence by the Hydra Cannon: And between this Hot Shot, the box art tease of Thrust, and the listing for Galvatron next year, the only missing character here would be Wheeljack.

My thoughts on today's reveals:

> Kaskade and Javelin - I don't read the comics so I had no idea who these characters were until this set was leaked so I probably won't buy them, but they look decent and it's nice that they went with the Bumblebee Movie Arcee mould for Javelin.
> Nacelle - Nope. Easy pass.
> Nova Prime - Again, I don't read the comics, but OH SWEET WAMPUM that looks nice! I like the Siege Ultra Magnus mould and I never had Galaxy Upgrade Optimus, so I may buy this.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Will this Hotshot be sold as a deluxe, a voyager, or will it be some exclusive like RedCog with its own price point?

I would guess a Red Cog style price point and package

Let's hope that is Toys R Us sell this, it will not be at 55$CAN like RedCog.
Dafuk was that price? No wonder Redcog became on "permanent sale" at the more normal 35/40$CAN.

I expect the same thing will happen with this Hotshot. I'll bid my time.

I'm a little annoyed they went with a red Jolt instead of yellow, but I guess they're going for cartoon accuracy. Maybe they'll release one later. At least it's a new mold. Will definitely get.

Munkky wrote:That looks great, so much better than the original, I'll definitely buy this set! And the box art teases what looks like an Armada Thrust from the Earthrise Seeker mould, not ideal, but it would be great if Thrust also came with a Mini-Con and blast effects.

I wonder if they'll actually release that. I can't tell how it's supposed to transform and actually maintain the colors. The cockpit is green which wouldn't work in jet mode and he has little wings on his arms which wouldn't exactly fit in his chest.



Emerje

Hot Shot looks cool, not something I'm interested in but the minicon is awesome. And now im hoping for powerlinx starscream and Optimus

I know it's accurate to the IDW2 comics, but Nacelle using the Siege Seeker mold instead of the Earthrise Thrust mold really misses the whole point of why the original Nacelle toy was made in the first place.

Sigh, they could've done the original Hot Shot with Jolt. Sigh, I'm going to buy this.

Sabrblade wrote:I know it's accurate to the IDW2 comics, but Nacelle using the Siege Seeker mold instead of the Earthrise Thrust mold really misses the whole point of why the original Nacelle toy was made in the first place.

Totally agree, they completely missed the mark here, celebrating the wrong part of his legacy.

Emerje