Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Wave 3 Deluxes Sighted at UK Retail

*is so tickled over the thought of Torso Soundwave and cassette limbs*

I'd been wondering about Soundwave's new robot mode in the IDW comic. Can't believe I didn't notice its similarity to the Motormaster/Optimus mold.

shajaki wrote:*is so tickled over the thought of Torso Soundwave and cassette limbs*

Well, Frenzy and Rumble are motorcycles in the comics now. They look more like Hasbro's Legends-class Groove than Takara's deluxe-class Groove, though.

I just hope the limbs are new molds. They have good repaint value, since each mold has been repainted at least three or four times.

If I had my way, they would simply mold Soundwave with an opening chest... and make G1 size cassettes that go inside. Limbs could be other characters... seekers, etc.

Not sure what vehicles the limbs could be that I'd be happy with. While I guess the tanks we got were probably the best option, they still didn't quite sit right with me.

Pondering....

mblase75 wrote:

shajaki wrote:*is so tickled over the thought of Torso Soundwave and cassette limbs*

Well, Frenzy and Rumble are motorcycles in the comics now. They look more like Hasbro's Legends-class Groove than Takara's deluxe-class Groove, though.

I think this is most likely what'll happen, but as well as that I wouldn't mind a repaint/retool of Leader Megatron based on that Galvatron design.

Thanks for reminding me... yeah, guessing you're right with the twins being motorcycles. That would make them too small for limbs... but they'll attach at the chest, likely. That's not bad. I also like them that size much better.

gothsaurus wrote:Thanks for reminding me... yeah, guessing you're right with the twins being motorcycles. That would make them too small for limbs... but they'll attach at the chest, likely. That's not bad. I also like them that size much better.

Those wouldnt serve as limbs of course, so I dont know what would happen. There is also the notion that the wheels along his chest section mean show that this isn't really the same mold and maybe just the artist inspiring himself. After all he does still transform into the same body he had before:

gothsaurus wrote:Thanks for reminding me... yeah, guessing you're right with the twins being motorcycles. That would make them too small for limbs... but they'll attach at the chest, likely.

The Hot spot mold's chest, yes, but not the Optimus/Motormaster mold.

Groove is now available at hsbrotoyshop.com

http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/tra-gen-le ... 6&ID=33951

I'm holding out on the Protectobots so far, as I am not huge fan of buying repaints/remolds, So I am waiting to see if the 3 unique molds for Defensor (Hotspot, Rook, Groove) will all show up in future eventual releases like the Combaticons or Technobots.

This is all v ery well and good but what about wave 2?

SimianProphet wrote:Groove is now available at hsbrotoyshop.com

Warpath too!

Still waiting for the rest of the Protectobots.

Robogeek1973 wrote:Still waiting for the rest of the Protectobots.

Likewise Rob, likewise.

I'd be okay with a combiner team of his minions, or I'd settle for a Rumble from Groove. Oi! Somebody who owns the CW Motormaster or Prime, see if you can fit Groove as a chestplate.

this would have to be a heavy retool to be pulled off. could be cool though. lets see.

for proper use of Laserbeak. More proof that Hasbro's focus should be on G1 and the season 1 Transformers in particular, because no Combiner has generated more excitement this year than Devastator!

1984forever wrote::APPLAUSE: for proper use of Laserbeak. More proof that Hasbro's focus should be on G1 and the season 1 Transformers in particular, because no Combiner has generated more excitement this year than Devastator!

Hmm, you seem familiar. Can't quite put it together, though.

1984forever wrote::APPLAUSE: for proper use of Laserbeak. More proof that Hasbro's focus should be on G1 and the season 1 Transformers in particular, because no Combiner has generated more excitement this year than Devastator!

Devastator's toy came out in 1985.

Ravage and Laserbeak/Buzzsaw at deluxe size also could be remolded for Predacons.

I really hope they don't use the Optimus/Motormaster mold if they make Soundwave because the vehicle mode and robot mode proportions would be way off for him. Honestly I'd like to see a leader class Soundwave to fit in with Megatron and the Seekers and not just some voyager class repaint.

Hmmmmm. I actually was tempted to get Generations FOC Soundwave, but this one looks like it'll be better! I hope it actually comes with Lazerbeak!

His vehicle mode looks more like Hot Spot than Prime/Motormaster. Maybe well get Soundwave from that mold if they decide to do it?

Twitchythe3rd wrote:His vehicle mode looks more like Hot Spot than Prime/Motormaster. Maybe well get Soundwave from that mold if they decide to do it?

I think it will be the Prime/Motormaster mold that will be remolded as Soundwave. I am just wondering why Soundwave would have a truck mode...

I'm hoping for a leader class Soundwave to go with leader Megs and Starscream.

I wonder if they'll finally do a combiner Soundwave. I've been thinking for years that Soundwave and his minions would lend themselves well to a Scramble City combiner play style. Heck, just think of how many possibilities there could be if they designed them right!

Just take Ravage for example. Cat mode, bot mode, limb mode. Cat mode obviously based on his G1 self. Bot mode based on his various BW and Alternators versions: cat head becomes the robot head like his TM(and TMII fan mode) version with the easy retool, or even alternate transformation, to be chest with proper robot mode head like Shadow Panther. And with that, easy repaints/retools would include G1 Rampage, BW Cheetor, BW Tigatron, and more.

Laserbeak and Buzzsaw could easily be made into Divebomb/Airazor repaints since they've never had robot modes, except for their BotCon and GDO figures. Heck, they might even be able to remold them into Swoop and Terrorsaur.

Rumble and Frenzy, they could probably figure out some alt mode to give them that makes sense and could also be repurposed into even more repaints and retools.

I think making Soundwave and his minions into a combiner team is a brilliant way to re-invent the interplay between SW and his crew. Let's face it cassette tapes are antiquated, and MP3 players, satellites, etc. are just boring.

Silly wrote:

Twitchythe3rd wrote:His vehicle mode looks more like Hot Spot than Prime/Motormaster. Maybe well get Soundwave from that mold if they decide to do it?

I think it will be the Prime/Motormaster mold that will be remolded as Soundwave. I am just wondering why Soundwave would have a truck mode...

Well, there were no casette players on cybertron, so he must have been some ind of vehicle. And thats what the video games did and that idea carried on in the IDW comics.

william-james88 wrote:

Silly wrote:

Twitchythe3rd wrote:His vehicle mode looks more like Hot Spot than Prime/Motormaster. Maybe well get Soundwave from that mold if they decide to do it?

I think it will be the Prime/Motormaster mold that will be remolded as Soundwave. I am just wondering why Soundwave would have a truck mode...

Well, there were no casette players on cybertron, so he must have been some ind of vehicle. And thats what the video games did and that idea carried on in the IDW comics.

Now for another opinion.

I was talking it over with my good shabudi, and we both agreed that Combiner Wars Legends class Huffer ROXX!
Sure I love the old Huff, with his orange hoodie and exhaust pipe arms. He was always one of my favorite minis, and always will be. Thats why I think it's so cool that he got this super sleek new update. He just looks so bad arse wearing this skin. I know, it's IDW's Prime, but that really means nothing to me, personaly. I am digging all these Legends redo's of the classic minis and The Huff takes the cake.
Who woulda thunk a simple repaint could hit my awesome button better than it's intended purpose?





And if that's not enough to flip you G1 purists on your ear.
I feel the exact same about War Path.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Silly wrote:

Twitchythe3rd wrote:His vehicle mode looks more like Hot Spot than Prime/Motormaster. Maybe well get Soundwave from that mold if they decide to do it?

I think it will be the Prime/Motormaster mold that will be remolded as Soundwave. I am just wondering why Soundwave would have a truck mode...

Well, there were no casette players on cybertron, so he must have been some ind of vehicle. And thats what the video games did and that idea carried on in the IDW comics.

Damn you Sabr, you make me loo like the world's biggest amateur. First Sharpnel, then the two takara Rodimi (no wonder they both looked so good!) and now this!

Although to be fair, that is just Soundwave's car mode transformed into a mishapen boombox

william-james88 wrote:Although to be fair, that is just Soundwave's car mode transformed into a mishapen boombox

Still plays music, though.

If Soundwave is to be made, I feel like I'd like him more if he were Deluxe scaled. I dunno, I just have this weird mentality that Soundwave should be the same height as the Starscream and the Seekers. Or, have Soundwave as a Voyager and downsize Leader Starscream to Voyager scale (which is what SHOULD have been done to begin with).

*thought you'd make a Legends thread*

Yes. Huffer is Huff-Tastic!
That Prime coat looks great on Huff. And I also don't immediately think "Prime" when looking at that mold anymore. If they really wanted to represent IDW Prime, they'd give him a proper Voyager mold.

Honestly, I'd even go as far to say Huffer feels like like a "premium" type figure. GDO'ish if you will. But maybe I'm crazy. I've said it somewhere else, but I'll reiterate it again here: I never thought I'd replace Rager (even when I saw Legends Huffer), but here I am.

Now I'm totally looking forward to Warpath, even with that perfect Generations Deluxe already on my shelf.

william-james88 wrote:

Silly wrote:

Twitchythe3rd wrote:His vehicle mode looks more like Hot Spot than Prime/Motormaster. Maybe well get Soundwave from that mold if they decide to do it?

I think it will be the Prime/Motormaster mold that will be remolded as Soundwave. I am just wondering why Soundwave would have a truck mode...

Well, there were no casette players on cybertron, so he must have been some ind of vehicle. And thats what the video games did and that idea carried on in the IDW comics.

Yeah but he was more of a military vehicle, not a truck cab. Has Soundwave ever had a trailer? Because this kind of truck pulls a trailer, even though the toy doesn't have one.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Although to be fair, that is just Soundwave's car mode transformed into a mishapen boombox

Still plays music, though.

I love that video! Though, Shockwave has a different voice than in the game for some reason.

shabudi wrote:*thought you'd make a Legends thread*

Maybe I should! Call it "Legends Love".

shabudi wrote:Now I'm totally looking forward to Warpath, even with that perfect Generations Deluxe already on my shelf.

Oh Gen De Path isn't going anywhere. He's gonna stay right on the shelf. Now he just has a lil' brother to mentor in the ways of SLAYING CHUMPS!!!


BTW - Legends War Path's bio is hilarious.
"Tank commander who loves watching his targets go blammo"

Cobotron wrote:

shabudi wrote:*thought you'd make a Legends thread*

Maybe I should! Call it "Legends Love".

shabudi wrote:Now I'm totally looking forward to Warpath, even with that perfect Generations Deluxe already on my shelf.

Oh Gen De Path isn't going anywhere. He's gonna stay right on the shelf. Now he just has a lil' brother to mentor in the ways of SLAYING CHUMPS!!!


BTW - Legends War Path's bio is hilarious.
"Tank commander who loves watching his targets go blammo"

IS THAT WHAT IT SAYS?!? OMG THAT IS AWESOME!
But seriously, if I am gonna get a warpath, it will be the Generations version.

Silly wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Although to be fair, that is just Soundwave's car mode transformed into a mishapen boombox

Still plays music, though.

I love that video! Though, Shockwave has a different voice than in the game for some reason.

They thought the video would be a good excuse to bring back Shockwave's G1 voice actor, Corey Burton. Honestly, he's the only Shockwave voice I'll ever need.

Cobotron wrote:Now he just has a lil' brother to mentor in the ways of SLAYING CHUMPS!!!

UltraPrimal wrote:I wonder if they'll finally do a combiner Soundwave. I've been thinking for years that Soundwave and his minions would lend themselves well to a Scramble City combiner play style. Heck, just think of how many possibilities there could be if they designed them right!

Just take Ravage for example. Cat mode, bot mode, limb mode. Cat mode obviously based on his G1 self. Bot mode based on his various BW and Alternators versions: cat head becomes the robot head like his TM(and TMII fan mode) version with the easy retool, or even alternate transformation, to be chest with proper robot mode head like Shadow Panther. And with that, easy repaints/retools would include G1 Rampage, BW Cheetor, BW Tigatron, and more.

Laserbeak and Buzzsaw could easily be made into Divebomb/Airazor repaints since they've never had robot modes, except for their BotCon and GDO figures. Heck, they might even be able to remold them into Swoop and Terrorsaur.

Rumble and Frenzy, they could probably figure out some alt mode to give them that makes sense and could also be repurposed into even more repaints and retools.

I think you may be dangerously close on this guess. It's not like we haven't seen deluxe cassettes or bigger with different altmodes in the past.
It would be a "great" way to get some pre-tools out there.
Where's the head-spinning emoticon?

william-james88 wrote:

gothsaurus wrote:Thanks for reminding me... yeah, guessing you're right with the twins being motorcycles. That would make them too small for limbs... but they'll attach at the chest, likely. That's not bad. I also like them that size much better.

Those wouldnt serve as limbs of course, so I dont know what would happen. There is also the notion that the wheels along his chest section mean show that this isn't really the same mold and maybe just the artist inspiring himself. After all he does still transform into the same body he had before:

I would love to see this design materialize, this would be a bad A@$ version of Soundwave. Thirty plus years and the best alternate design for Soundwave has been a satellite. I think a heavy duty armored military truck would be a great design especially if they could incorporate drones and motorcycles that attach (Laserbeak, Rumble).

For those speculating the Groove legends mold for Rumble/Frenzy, I'll raise you:
The supposed Technobot Afterburner remolded as the pair so they can be limbs. Maybe Lazerbeak/Buzzsaw at chest pieces to emulate Prime Soundwave. Eh?

Silly wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Although to be fair, that is just Soundwave's car mode transformed into a mishapen boombox

Still plays music, though.

I love that video! Though, Shockwave has a different voice than in the game for some reason.

Memory lane trip, I have never seen that before and I was a die hard fan of the games.

shajaki wrote:For those speculating the Groove legends mold for Rumble/Frenzy, I'll raise you:
The supposed Technobot Afterburner remolded as the pair so they can be limbs. Maybe Lazerbeak/Buzzsaw at chest pieces to emulate Prime Soundwave. Eh?

I'd rather see them as limbs and Ravage as the chest piece.

Burn wrote:

shajaki wrote:For those speculating the Groove legends mold for Rumble/Frenzy, I'll raise you:
The supposed Technobot Afterburner remolded as the pair so they can be limbs. Maybe Lazerbeak/Buzzsaw at chest pieces to emulate Prime Soundwave. Eh?

I'd rather see them as limbs and Ravage as the chest piece.

You raise a good point: I don't care.
If there's a CW Soundwave and cassette bot combiner coming out, I'll probably be happy whatever the configuration is

Don't mind repurposed toys for CW Bruticus and CW Computron.

Just don't want the CW repurposed toys in 2016 to be so dominating. that no CW toys for CW Abonimus, CW Predaking and CW Seacons get made.

Wouldn't mind seeing CW toys made for the G1 Dinobots. with Four deluxes limbs bots and One Voyager class Grimlock toy.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Don't mind repurposed toys for CW Bruticus and CW Computron.

Just don't want the CW repurposed toys in 2016 to be so dominating. that no CW toys for CW Abonimus, CW Predaking and CW Seacons get made.

Wouldn't mind seeing CW toys made for the G1 Dinobots. with Four deluxes limbs bots and One Voyager class Grimlock toy.

Somebody else said something like this, but I'll reiterate it, (Was it you prjkt?), and along the same lines as what shajaki just said. If we get Computron, we get Afterburner, who could be Frenzy an Rumble. Heck they don't HAVE to share an alt mode. One of them could be Lightspeed.

Than Abominus...

You got Cutthroat. There's Lazerbeak.


Sinnertwin is real cat like. There's Ravage.

I still like the idea too, that next years Titan might be Predaking.

Puhonix wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Puhonix wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:http://twitter.com/ToysRUs/status/603200348661092352/photo/1

From TRU twitter feed

Victorion's power will be "gravity" based. And her main rival would be Galvatronous (?)

Next year?!?! I thought that she would be a late 2015 release?

They always stated it would be REVEALED this year. It was never said it would come out.

Doh!

Though I guess that's good news for my wallet.

Next year toys start trickling out late this year so something coming early 2016 might just pop up around the holidays.

I cant decide on which side to fall on with a combiner Soundwave. On one hand it would be fun and a new Soundwave could be better than W/FOC was, but the G1 kid in me likes his smaller legend size minions with Soundwave. I also dont like Ravage and Laserbeak/Buzzsaw having humanoid robot modes. I still use BH GO! Soundwave as my classics Soundwave, Im sure that annoys some G1 people.

This is the way I would see CW Soundwave being done:
Soundwave: Retooled Motormaster
Rumble & Frenzy: Retooled Groove (if using bikes) or Retooled Rook (if using tanks)
Laserbeak/Buzzsaw: Retooled Air Raid
Ravage: Retooled Blackjack