Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Superion Art by Marcelo Matere

Nice art work! Looks pretty faithful to the figure.

Menasor looks a lot better when the legs are displayed as below. Now just a case of whether I want him to have the chest open, or closed. I'm thinking closed at the moment, looks a lot less top heavy. Would like to see another pic of him like this with Blackjack in there, but so far I've not been keen on how Blackjack looks sitting in there.

Having the surprising quality and relative sturdiness of a mostly completed Superion in my hands only makes me even angrier about the piece of crap that was FOC Bruticus. On the other hand, it does make me look forward to the rest of this line.

Valandar wrote:Having the surprising quality and relative sturdiness of a mostly completed Superion in my hands only makes me even angrier about the piece of crap that was FOC Bruticus. On the other hand, it does make me look forward to the rest of this line.

The thing is with FoC Bruticus is that the figure was just created as an individual set and not part of a toyline devoted to combiners. They got it out there off the back of the video games and in some ways was a good way to test the water at how well Generations combiners would be received.

Combiner Wars is their new pet project, it's a serious toyline that they know they have to get right. It's a big risk because if people are burnt by Superion, like they were with Bruticus, they won't be successful. This is why I think Superion has been released first, it's the best looking. Like releasing the opening track of an album as a single, which happens often.

I still like my Bruticus, he really kickstarted me into collecting after a trip to Japan where I picked up the Takara versions, so he's got a place in my heart. On his own he has some big flaws, but I think the Third Party upgrades help a little. He's a lot better with the Boosticus set, and looks good with a Voyager torso from Microblaze's Notslaught (although apparently that makes him a fair bit bigger than Superion). I've not invested in the latter as I think the Boosticus set looks good enough for what isn't the best of figures already.

I'm not sure whether I'll pick up the CW Bruticus, because I actually like the Cybertronian aesthetic of FoC Bruticus, but if it's as good as the rest of this line has been so far, I may just have to.

Damn! Once again Marcelo knocks it outta the park. Umm...Leader Class Ultra Magnus next please ?

Love that picture, like it better than the devy one actually.

Syn_13 wrote:Nice art work! Looks pretty faithful to the figure.

Menasor looks a lot better when the legs are displayed as below. Now just a case of whether I want him to have the chest open, or closed. I'm thinking closed at the moment, looks a lot less top heavy. Would like to see another pic of him like this with Blackjack in there, but so far I've not been keen on how Blackjack looks sitting in there.

Finally a good picture of menasor!!!, looks a lot better when the legs are mistransformed

Curious as to where the art work is to be used, since Superion doesn't have a box. Takara's set perhaps? Or is it promo art for something else?

hinomars19 wrote:Curious as to where the art work is to be used, since Superion doesn't have a box. Takara's set perhaps? Or is it promo art for something else?

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I saw someone started this the other day, but didn't finish:

G1 Silverbolt - Aérospatiale-BAC Concorde Passenger Jet
Maximum speed: ≈1,354 mph, 2,179 km/h, 1,176 knots (Mach 2.04) at cruise altitude
Service ceiling: 60,000 ft (18,300 m)

G1 Skydive - General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon
High Altitude: 1,320 mph, 2,120 km/h (Mach 2) clean configuration
Low Altitude: 915 mph, 1,470 km/h (Mach 1.2)
Service ceiling: 50,000+ ft[2] (15,240+ m)

G1 Air-Raid - McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle
High altitude: 1,650+ mph, 2,665+ km/h (Mach 2.5+)
Low altitude: 900 mph, 1,450 km/h (Mach 1.2)
Service ceiling: 65,000 ft (20,000 m)

G1 Fireflight - McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II
Maximum speed: 1,472 mph, 2,370 km/h (Mach 2.23) at 40,000 ft (12,190 m)

G1 Slingshot - British Aerospace Sea Harrier FA2
Maximum speed: 735 mph, 1,182 km/h (Mach 0.96?)
Service ceiling: 51,000 ft (16,000 m)

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CW Silverbolt - Modified Aérospatiale-BAC Concorde Passenger Jet(?)
Maximum speed: ≈1,354 mph, 2,179 km/h, 1,176 knots (Mach 2.04) at cruise altitude
Service ceiling: 60,000 ft (18,300 m)

CW Skydive - McDonnell Douglas F/A-18 Hornet (Hybrid with General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon)
High Altitude (Falcon): 1,320 mph, 2,120 km/h (Mach 2)
Low altitude (Hornet): 915 mph, 1,473 km/h (Mach 1.2)
Service ceiling (Falcon): 50,000+ ft (15,240+ m)

CW Air-Raid - Grumman F-14 Tomcat (Hybrid with McDonnell Douglas F/A-18 Hornet)
High altitude (Tomcat): 1,544 mph, 2,485 km/h (Mach 2.34)
Low altitude (Hornet): 915 mph, 1,473 km/h (Mach 1.2)
Service ceiling (Tomcat): 50,000+ ft (15,200 m)

CW Firefly - McDonnell Douglas AV-8B Harrier II Plus
Maximum speed: 673 mph, 1,083 km/h (Mach 0.9)

CW Slingshot - McDonnell Douglas AV-8B Harrier II Plus
Maximum speed: 673 mph, 1,083 km/h (Mach 0.9)

CW Alpha Bravo - Modified Aerospatiale Eurocopter AS365 Dauphin - twin engines
Maximum speed: 190 mph; 306 km/h
Service ceiling: 5,865 m (19,242 ft)

CW Blades - Modified Aerospatiale Eurocopter HH-65 Dolphin (SA366 G1)
Maximum speed: 201 mph; 324 km/h
Service ceiling: 5,486 m (17,999 ft)

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So, ranked for speed:

G1 Air-Raid - 1,650+ mph, 2,665+ km/h

CW Air-Raid - 1,544 mph, 2,485 km/h

G1 Fireflight - 1,472 mph, 2,370 km/h

G1 Silverbolt - ≈1,354 mph, 2,179 km/h

CW Silverbolt - ≈1,354 mph, 2,179 km/h

G1 Skydive - 1,320 mph, 2,120 km/h

CW Skydive - 1,320 mph, 2,120 km/h

G1 Slingshot - 735 mph, 1,182 km/h

CW Firefly - 673 mph, 1,083 km/h

CW Slingshot - 673 mph, 1,083 km/h

CW Blades - 201 mph; 324 km/h

CW Alpha Bravo - 190 mph; 306 km/h


So, unfortunately, without some sort of teleportation system, Alpha Bravo does get left behind, even by his fellow new Aerialbot Powerglide, who tops out at 439mph (unarmed). Of course, everyone gets ditched by Blastoff who orbits at 17,180 mph (27,650 km/h), but I don't thing that really counts.

Va'al wrote:

hinomars19 wrote:Curious as to where the art work is to be used, since Superion doesn't have a box. Takara's set perhaps? Or is it promo art for something else?

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OOh, nifty! Cheers Va'al

Just picked up Legends Windcharger today. That completes wave 1 for me.
But my random thought of the day is, This opalescent red plastic that he is cast in is gorgeous, just GORGEOUS!

The more I see of Menasor, the more I like him, especially with the mis-transformed/not-pegged-in legs. The only thing that's really irking me at this point is the way the trunks of the cars flip over when in leg mode, but I guess I'll get over that, too.

Cobotron wrote:Just picked up Legends Windcharger today. That completes wave 1 for me.
But my random thought of the day is, This opalescent red plastic that he is cast in is gorgeous, just GORGEOUS!

The colour is great, I just haven't opened the packaging yet, as I' e already got the United set, and not sure if I need another Windcharger...

prjkt wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Just picked up Legends Windcharger today. That completes wave 1 for me.
But my random thought of the day is, This opalescent red plastic that he is cast in is gorgeous, just GORGEOUS!

The colour is great, I just haven't opened the packaging yet, as I' e already got the United set, and not sure if I need another Windcharger...

I just picked up that United set too, which is why I was reluctant to even get this version. But that plastic kinda made it worth it alone. Or that's just guilt justifying it for me.

Hmmmmmm.......a lot of awesome looking figures have been revealed at Toy Fair. Now, I'm going to skip getting Warpath, and stick with my United Warpath. I really like the G.I. Joe homage in Viper, so definitely getting him. Protectobots look good, will be picking those up. Now Devastator is where I come to a draw: I like the combined form, but I HATE a couple of the individual designs. For starters, why doesn't Scrapper have elbow joints? Was it that hard? Secondly, why does Long Haul look like utter crap. I'm talking about the proportions, like him having a really wide chest, and articulation, like elbows only moving inward. The rest are great.

i remember watching a vid and the hasbro designers were so over hyping the combiner wars, for that vid i knew they would be a joke.....

wft is this hasbro, u kidding me.......hes a goddamn mess. very very laughable........

Cobotron wrote:

prjkt wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Just picked up Legends Windcharger today. That completes wave 1 for me.
But my random thought of the day is, This opalescent red plastic that he is cast in is gorgeous, just GORGEOUS!

The colour is great, I just haven't opened the packaging yet, as I' e already got the United set, and not sure if I need another Windcharger...

I just picked up that United set too, which is why I was reluctant to even get this version. But that plastic kinda made it worth it alone. Or that's just guilt justifying it for me.

I thought so based on your sig image :p

I may end up giving Legends Windcharger to my partner's nephew

Found the Armada version at a Toys R Us in San Diego. There were zero other Combiner Wars figures (frustrating since I am still looking for two CW Powerglide & Bombshell). It was like finding needle in a haystack of RiD and Generation figures...

helli0n wrote:Found the Armada version at a Toys R Us in San Diego. There were zero other Combiner Wars figures (frustrating since I am still looking for two CW Powerglide & Bombshell). It was like finding needle in a haystack of RiD and Generation figures...

Since this has already been reported here several times, it is best to write post like these in the appropriate sightings section instead. Like that, the flow of the conversation here isn't halted and people from your area who don't read this thread can know which stores might stock the figure.

Still waiting for combiner wars stuff to show up in shops here in Australia. Hopefully we should get them in the next few weeks.

DEANO85 wrote:Still waiting for combiner wars stuff to show up in shops here in Australia. Hopefully we should get them in the next few weeks.

My local TrU had a full case of Deluxe wave 1 when I stopped in last Friday, so hopefully it wont be long before you see them.

DEANO85 wrote:Still waiting for combiner wars stuff to show up in shops here in Australia. Hopefully we should get them in the next few weeks.

We've had them at various Toyworlds around the place, check otca.com.au for local sightings. I picked up Leader Megatron at my local a week or so back, and I've seen the other size classes too.

Apparently other retailers are starting to stock wave one also

prjkt wrote:

DEANO85 wrote:Still waiting for combiner wars stuff to show up in shops here in Australia. Hopefully we should get them in the next few weeks.

We've had them at various Toyworlds around the place, check otca.com.au for local sightings. I picked up Leader Megatron at my local a week or so back, and I've seen the other size classes too.

Apparently other retailers are starting to stock wave one also

I live in sydney. Been to my local toys r us, big w and kmart and the racks/shelves have got the last of the aoe stuff. Tho toys r us had mp magnus, mp bumble and leader jetfire.

Magnus was $299 but I already got him from robotkingdom for alot cheaper.

Found this:

That is hilarious I might display him like that just for fun.

Sabrblade wrote:Found this:

Are you pondering what I'm pondering?

Spending way too much $$$ on this line, Aerialbots are only ones I want. Just completed Superion using 4 Skydives as limbs. Powerglide, Alpha Bravo, Firefly are stand alone figs. Waiting on Air Raid and Slingshot (if he comes to USA). The rest of the team might get swapped in once I have them in hand.




I decided on the 4 Skydives because it looks like a VIP transport (Silverbolt) with its military escort. I turned my limbs around for the G1 vibe; really like the way the hands/feet appear like extensions of Skydive. The combined figure is very uniform. It's a very solid figure, way to go Hasbro!

Do not get me wrong, Alpha Bravo is a kick ass figure, very odd replacement. My biggest grip with his alt mode is when made into a limb, he is oriented in the opposite direction as the jets. The jets noses all point up whereas his vehicle front points down.

(Firefly wasn't bought when this picture was taken.)

jaws wrote:Spending way too much $$$ on this line, Aerialbots are only ones I want. Just completed Superion using 4 Skydives as limbs. Powerglide, Alpha Bravo, Firefly are stand alone figs. Waiting on Air Raid and Slingshot (if he comes to USA). The rest of the team might get swapped in once I have them in hand.

Why did you keep firefly as standalone?

And why powerglide? He's Superion's bfg for heaven's sake!

To: william-james88 and ZeroWolf

Still playing around with my combination, more to follow.

Not sure if this was posted yet, but Hasbro Toy Store has a Coming soon on Deluxe Breakdown...

http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/transformers-generations-combiner-wars-deluxe-class-breakdown-figure?BR=496&ID=33962

Don't know if this video was posted yet or not.

Video review of CW Legends Class Blackjack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HDbTAkqUa8

You know what really bugs me about most of the reviews I'm seeing? How they refer to the artwork card as pointless, or useless. It's not all of the reviews I see, but it's enough to make me take exception to.

Someone put hours of work into creating that image. All the images that appear on the packaging are normally thrown away as garbage. I do it too, I toss out the packaging, I don't need packaging cluttering up my storage space. Sometimes I'll want to keep it because of the box art, but I can't.

The cards that come with the figures are great for me! And great for the artist who made them too. If Optibotimus doesn't want the cards, send them to me!

What bugs me about them is that they are one sided... That would have been an AWESOME place for some tech-specs and a bio.

I never had the aeriobots when I was young, so the first thing I did was have to wander around online to find out exactly WHO it was that I just bought. Toys without personality are boring...

My biggest issue with Alpha Bravo, is that I still know nothing about him

the cards are cool. i can see kids having fun with them.

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Don't know if this video was posted yet or not.

Video review of CW Legends Class Blackjack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HDbTAkqUa8

You know what really bugs me about most of the reviews I'm seeing? How they refer to the artwork card as pointless, or useless. It's not all of the reviews I see, but it's enough to make me take exception to.

Someone put hours of work into creating that image. All the images that appear on the packaging are normally thrown away as garbage. I do it too, I toss out the packaging, I don't need packaging cluttering up my storage space. Sometimes I'll want to keep it because of the box art, but I can't.

The cards that come with the figures are great for me! And great for the artist who made them too. If Optibotimus doesn't want the cards, send them to me!

Fully agreed, I LOVE the cards. As a canadian, we dont get the comics, so for once it was fun to have a little extra.

phantom1592 wrote:What bugs me about them is that they are one sided... That would have been an AWESOME place for some tech-specs and a bio.

I never had the aeriobots when I was young, so the first thing I did was have to wander around online to find out exactly WHO it was that I just bought. Toys without personality are boring...

My biggest issue with Alpha Bravo, is that I still know nothing about him

That's the fun thing about kids' toys, you can make up their personality. I used to get a bunch of toys given to me from lines I never watched (like Mummy's alive) as a kid and I just made up who these people were, even their names. Also, with Transformers, I am collecting them for the craft that they are and not the character. One of my all time favourite transformers is Alternators Decepticharge and that's all because of the toy since the character has less written about him than Alpha Bravo. Another good example: Prime RID Vehicon. He has no personality and no story, but we all agree that the toy is a masterpiece all on it's own. Just to say that bios and fiction have never played a part in enjoying my toy, either as a kid or now, for different reasons.

Prime Vehicon has a name. It is Steve.

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:
You know what really bugs me about most of the reviews I'm seeing? How they refer to the artwork card as pointless, or useless. It's not all of the reviews I see, but it's enough to make me take exception to.

Someone put hours of work into creating that image. All the images that appear on the packaging are normally thrown away as garbage. I do it too, I toss out the packaging, I don't need packaging cluttering up my storage space. Sometimes I'll want to keep it because of the box art, but I can't.

The cards that come with the figures are great for me! And great for the artist who made them too. If Optibotimus doesn't want the cards, send them to me!

I keep a large binder full of page protectors. Started when I restarted collecting during Energon.

Usually each protector is for a single release, and will have the instruction manual unfolded on the front with any other salvageable materials (backing cards from blister packs, box art, pack-in cards/comics/catalogs) tucked in behind.

I used to have a binder with tech specs and box art from G1, but unless it shows up in storage, it's been lost for some time.

We did kind of the same for all of our DVD/Blu-rays, disks is one binder, and we've pulled the liner notes to put in binder sleeves. Reduced a wall of disks down to a single shelf.

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Don't know if this video was posted yet or not.

Video review of CW Legends Class Blackjack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HDbTAkqUa8

You know what really bugs me about most of the reviews I'm seeing? How they refer to the artwork card as pointless, or useless. It's not all of the reviews I see, but it's enough to make me take exception to.

Someone put hours of work into creating that image. All the images that appear on the packaging are normally thrown away as garbage. I do it too, I toss out the packaging, I don't need packaging cluttering up my storage space. Sometimes I'll want to keep it because of the box art, but I can't.

The cards that come with the figures are great for me! And great for the artist who made them too. If Optibotimus doesn't want the cards, send them to me!

With the exception of TF GO!, Tomy knows how to do bio cards right! If only I can read Japanese. And I do miss the old art in G1 boxes. They were like mini masterpieces and help spur your imagination.

Back in Superlink and GF, despite being CGI renders, they put some effort to a decent battle scene. But I digress, wish Hasbro would return to those awesome biocards by Budiansky.

Editor wrote:I keep a large binder full of page protectors. Started when I restarted collecting during Energon.

These new cards have inspired me to do THIS. I have a file cabinet for all card backs, instructions, and anything else like stickers, collector cards, etc.
Thought I might get some of those baseball card sleeves and a binder.

I'm gonna get all orgamanized like Sgt. Angle here.

Cobotron wrote:I'm gonna get all orgamanized like Sgt. Angle here.

Yarb.
Step one: get a binder and sheets.
Step two: put your stuff in said binders and sheets.
Step three: grab a pint and/or Cornetto.
Step four: kick back and watch Bad Boys 2 or Point Blank.

Hows that for a slice of fried gold.

I started a binder with plastic sleeves recently. Have a lot of items to add into it... Just been adding ones from recent.

Ok so I REALLY don't get why G1 fans are dogging Superion so much. Seriously this guy made me have flash backs of memories from the 80's. Alpha Bravo sure, whatever he wasn't original, but WOW fantastic!

I still have my sky dive from my child hood... Looking at jet mode, WOW! (My family was rather poor so I only got to get one as a kid...)

I did keep the legs extended on the bottom which makes him MUCH more proportioned and well... I am going to have to photograph him tomorrow next to my ROTF Combiners... Because he DWARFS them... Its insane how tall this guy is when his legs are out... I can see why Hasbro has them folded in... But the sheer height it gives him REALLY adds to the insanity...

I will say my ***only compliant has and still is the dang feet are terrible... I must make a kit bash for them because there has to be more than these foot/hand missiles...

I seriously can't wait till Wave 2 comes out, and I can get them... (Hopefully soon I just got another dang coupon!)

When you talk about legs extended are you going on about sky dive or alpha Bravo?

ZeroWolf wrote:When you talk about legs extended are you going on about sky dive or alpha Bravo?

Really any of them can keep their "legs" extended in the combined mode from just transforming each of them. Ill see if I can get some pictures tomorrow.

Either route with them folded in he still does look pretty decent, but a little on the side of "ape arms."

We have recently seen in-hand shots of Combiner Wars Leader Class Megatron, but now we can see him with his additional Autobot sticker set! Thanks to Twitter user Manuel @RodimusPrime87 we finally get to see his recent IDW interpretation in action. Also included are stickers to give him the iconic swirl details inspired by his G1 counterpart. Down below are the pics, check them out!





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Not impressed by those stickers......

KnightAero wrote:Ok so I REALLY don't get why G1 fans are dogging Superion so much. Seriously this guy made me have flash backs of memories from the 80's. Alpha Bravo sure, whatever he wasn't original, but WOW fantastic!

Thank you Sir Knight. Thank you for some positivity. We need more around here. I was already excited, but now that you're so excited, I'm even more excited!!!!

I seriously can't wait till Wave 2 comes out, and I can get them... (Hopefully soon I just got another dang coupon!)

Me too...and the coupon. Came in the mail today and the first thing I thought was, MEGATRON! I'm goin' huntin' tomorrow.

Syn_13 wrote:Nice art work! Looks pretty faithful to the figure.

Menasor looks a lot better when the legs are displayed as below. Now just a case of whether I want him to have the chest open, or closed. I'm thinking closed at the moment, looks a lot less top heavy. Would like to see another pic of him like this with Blackjack in there, but so far I've not been keen on how Blackjack looks sitting in there.

Question about those legs: to the hip joints still work with the legs displayed like that?

This could well put the Stunticon set back on my to-buy list; the "birthing hips" from the earlier pics really killed it for me.

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Question about those legs: to the hip joints still work with the legs displayed like that?

I just tried it with Prime. Actually they are less impeded that when in the intended mode.

Also, I just realized the plates that fold up from the lower leg are different sculpts between OP and MM.