Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leaked Image - White Ultra Prime Redeco and More
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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 17th, 2015 @ 3:58pm CST
Posted by SkyWarpt on January 17th, 2015 @ 3:58pm CST
wetwithwaterwings wrote:Cobotron wrote:Just trying to sniff out the trail.
Has anyone found CW Voyagers at retail yet?
or only online.
East Coast are you wit me?
They've hit Texas. Silverbolt is fantastic. He's superior to CW Prime.
Must be a different part of TX, all my stores have peg warmed Tankor, the rodent, and TF4 one step changers
Posted by Emerje on January 17th, 2015 @ 3:59pm CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:SkyWarpt wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Emerje wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Can't say I'm excited for defensor as it means it's now more or less certain that the combaticons are coming and I had really hoped that we'd get a team like the seacons (or extreme long shot, liokaiser)
I wouldn't loose all hope. Since the Fan Built Combiner is coming out in 2016 it isn't unreasonable to assume we'll continue to get combiners past Hasbro's use of the Combiner Wars label. Now that Hasbro has established a new combining system and they've proven their popularity I wouldn't be surprised if we got at least one new set every year for a while.
Emerje
How do we know that this new combiner system is popular? Are there any sales figures in yet and does Hasbro share that info? I would say we'd have to wait for the first quarter 2015 stock report for any dom had their pre-orders pushed back to February and BBTS has theirs listed for March.
The fact that the "in stocks" sold out over night on Amazon is a good indication.
That's tough to say since we don't know how much stock Amazon had in the first place? If they had only 10 figures each (gross exaggeration I know) those would definitely sell out.
A single, and relatively small toy line like Generations is probably not going to make much of an impact on a stock report. The local Walmarts finished their resets and the AOE section is still bigger than the Generations section (with no RID in sight).
I'm simply calling it popular based on the fan reaction. It's been incredibly positive for a line that has a way of dividing fans and the "gotta catch 'em all!" mentality of CW is a sure way to sell figures. From what I've heard people are experiencing some really fast sellouts when finding these in stores. Plus it sounds like Hasbro is giving this line an unprecedented international release, even ahead of North America so they're certainly aware of the line's potential to be big.
I just wish I could find them in stores already. Walmart probably wont get wave one and won't get anything new until April like last year. Target doesn't stock enough to keep the anything on the shelf this time of year. Kmart is Kmart.
Emerje
Posted by Mindmaster on January 17th, 2015 @ 3:59pm CST
Also, BUMBLEBEE? Are you kidding me? If they're bringing him back, then there's no excuse for Scrapper not to be a part of Devastator.
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on January 17th, 2015 @ 4:02pm CST
Posted by prjkt on January 17th, 2015 @ 4:02pm CST
Probably Ultra Magnus. Hot Rod chest is amusing, but I'm hoping they still trailer this guy up, rather than combined limbs
Posted by Cobotron on January 17th, 2015 @ 4:05pm CST
Thats what I was afraid of.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Ultra Magnus with Rodimus. I believe we have part of our Leader-sized gift set.
Does anyone else think that Bee art looks a lot like Classics Bee?
Posted by KnightStrike on January 17th, 2015 @ 4:06pm CST
Posted by prjkt on January 17th, 2015 @ 4:07pm CST
Cobotron wrote:Thats what I was afraid of.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Ultra Magnus with Rodimus. I believe we have part of our Leader-sized gift set.
Does anyone else think that Bee art looks a lot like Classics Bee?
It is
But
It's the artwork from the Legends game, like OP in the top corner, so based on earlier toys/fiction design (if they exist) - not the CW figures
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on January 17th, 2015 @ 4:15pm CST
Posted by Cobotron on January 17th, 2015 @ 4:15pm CST
Don't be. these are way better.KnightStrike wrote:sort of afraid of another FoC Combaticon situation.
Not at all.They look to have the poor articulation of Energon/Cybertron era molds.
Extremley. Other than the two things you mentioned, feet and wrists, they are as articulated as any Gen figure. More if we're talking about Skids. The hands and feet make sense and are excusable due to the combination aspect.Overall are those of you that have found them happy with them in hand regardless of these issues?
I don't even have the voyagers yet, and I'm pleased as punch.
Posted by Cobotron on January 17th, 2015 @ 4:24pm CST
m'kay, m'kayprjkt wrote:Cobotron wrote:Thats what I was afraid of.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Ultra Magnus with Rodimus. I believe we have part of our Leader-sized gift set.
Does anyone else think that Bee art looks a lot like Classics Bee?
It is
But
It's the artwork from the Legends game, like OP in the top corner, so based on earlier toys/fiction design (if they exist) - not the CW figures
and on our dreams.SW's SilverHammer wrote:Ultra magnus is just a white ultra prime. GOD DAMN IT HASBRO YOU DUN GOOFED! You came so close, and then just **** the bed.
Posted by Burn on January 17th, 2015 @ 4:39pm CST
Mindmaster wrote:I'm betting my imaginary Generations Titan-class Metroplex that what we're looking at is the legendary rumored Ultra Magnus. Or, rather, a part of him. I'm playing it safe with that bet. I can't afford to get Burned!
Yeah go on people, take this bet. I'm sure Mindmaster is just as reliable as T-Macksimus!
Posted by Dr. Caelus on January 17th, 2015 @ 4:42pm CST
Possible Set #1
CW Optimus => Ultra Magnus
CW Blackjack => Rodimus
CW Brawl(?) => Perceptor
CW Alpha Bravo => Springer
CW Off Road => Kup
CW ??? => Arcee??? (Would make Rodimus look pretty wimpy...)
Possible Set #2
CW Optimus => Ultra Magnus
CW Blackjack => Rodimus
CW Brawl(?) => Perceptor
CW Alpha Bravo => Whirl
CW Deadend => Chromedome
CW Skydive => Cyclonus
I actually think a Lost Light combiner is fairly likely, since Ratchet, First Aid, and Tailgate are viable alternate components which we know will or do exist, and since we're still waiting to find out what Rung's alternate mode does!
Posted by prjkt on January 17th, 2015 @ 4:45pm CST
Posted by trence5 on January 17th, 2015 @ 4:49pm CST
Posted by robotmel on January 17th, 2015 @ 5:10pm CST
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Ultra magnus is just a white ultra prime. GOD DAMN IT HASBRO YOU DUN GOOFED! You came so close, and then just **** the bed.
trence5 wrote:Dear god - I hope that is NOT going to be this leader class Magnus we've been hearing rumbling about
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on January 17th, 2015 @ 5:12pm CST
Cobotron wrote:Thats what I was afraid of.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Ultra Magnus with Rodimus. I believe we have part of our Leader-sized gift set.
Does anyone else think that Bee art looks a lot like Classics Bee?
They're going to release MP Bumblebee as a deluxe figure
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 17th, 2015 @ 5:14pm CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Cobotron wrote:Thats what I was afraid of.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Ultra Magnus with Rodimus. I believe we have part of our Leader-sized gift set.
Does anyone else think that Bee art looks a lot like Classics Bee?
They're going to release MP Bumblebee as a deluxe figure
... priced as a Voyager.
Posted by Tsutsukakushi on January 17th, 2015 @ 5:17pm CST
Cobotron wrote:m'kay, m'kayprjkt wrote:Cobotron wrote:Thats what I was afraid of.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Ultra Magnus with Rodimus. I believe we have part of our Leader-sized gift set.
Does anyone else think that Bee art looks a lot like Classics Bee?
It is
But
It's the artwork from the Legends game, like OP in the top corner, so based on earlier toys/fiction design (if they exist) - not the CW figuresand on our dreams.SW's SilverHammer wrote:Ultra magnus is just a white ultra prime. GOD DAMN IT HASBRO YOU DUN GOOFED! You came so close, and then just **** the bed.
Hoping HasTak creates a big trailer that breaks apart into pieces. that can plug into the CW ports on the UM toy to form a bigger armored up robot. Think a Trailer is a good idea to include. As it can get repurposed later for Motormaster and Optimus.
Posted by MightyMagnus78 on January 17th, 2015 @ 5:17pm CST
robotmel wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:Ultra magnus is just a white ultra prime. GOD DAMN IT HASBRO YOU DUN GOOFED! You came so close, and then just **** the bed.trence5 wrote:Dear god - I hope that is NOT going to be this leader class Magnus we've been hearing rumbling about
I actually really like that.
Posted by Tsutsukakushi on January 17th, 2015 @ 5:35pm CST
MightyMagnus78 wrote:robotmel wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:Ultra magnus is just a white ultra prime. GOD DAMN IT HASBRO YOU DUN GOOFED! You came so close, and then just **** the bed.trence5 wrote:Dear god - I hope that is NOT going to be this leader class Magnus we've been hearing rumbling about
I actually really like that.
At least Wave Three CW Hotspot chances of using the Voyager Optimus toy decreases. some guessed CW Hotspot would use the Optimus toy.
Posted by Burn on January 17th, 2015 @ 5:36pm CST
MightyMagnus78 wrote:I actually really like that.
No you do not! You are The MightyMagnus, don't buy into these white Prime repaints. You are like me, you want a Magnus that combines with his trailer, anything else is blasphemy!
Posted by Madeus Prime on January 17th, 2015 @ 5:45pm CST
I'm not positive, but can't Blackjack store his weapon on his back?
Tsutsukakushi wrote:At least Wave Three CW Hotspot chances of using the Voyager Optimus toy decreases. some guessed CW Hotspot would use the Optimus toy.
Yeah, but honestly, I wouldn't mind, CW Prime looks great as anybody but himself.
Posted by Dr. Caelus on January 17th, 2015 @ 6:09pm CST
I'd prefer a trailer that turns into armor, of course, but it just occurred to me that they might be doing it the other way around - Magnus's smaller form looks like Ultra Magnus, and then his combined form has the white Optimus Prime head.
Posted by Cobotron on January 17th, 2015 @ 6:17pm CST
I said this exact thing a couple of pages back. Glad we're on the same page.Tsutsukakushi wrote:Hoping HasTak creates a big trailer that breaks apart into pieces. that can plug into the CW ports on the UM toy to form a bigger armored up robot. Think a Trailer is a good idea to include. As it can get repurposed later for Motormaster and Optimus.
AGREED, Damn it! But only if the above mentioned idea were a thing. It would make sense as a leader class.MightyMagnus78 wrote:
I actually really like that.
Posted by Wreckgar on January 17th, 2015 @ 6:17pm CST
Caelus wrote:Not owning the CW Optimus mold to see for myself, I was wondering - would it be possible to retool and repaint the mold in such away that he looks like a white repaint of Prime in truck mode, but looks like his classic red and blue armored-up form in robot mode? Clearly his robot-mode chest can be remolded into just about anything.
I'd prefer a trailer that turns into armor, of course, but it just occurred to me that they might be doing it the other way around - Magnus's smaller form looks like Ultra Magnus, and then his combined form has the white Optimus Prime head.
Having a look at Motormaster, with the right combination of red & blue, his chest could work. So all you'd need is a new head.
Posted by Peridot on January 17th, 2015 @ 6:20pm CST
I want a 1986 movie combiner now. And what is that Bumblebee supposed to be?
Posted by Burn on January 17th, 2015 @ 6:31pm CST
Cobotron wrote:I said this exact thing a couple of pages back. Glad we're on the same page.Tsutsukakushi wrote:Hoping HasTak creates a big trailer that breaks apart into pieces. that can plug into the CW ports on the UM toy to form a bigger armored up robot. Think a Trailer is a good idea to include. As it can get repurposed later for Motormaster and Optimus.
Technically if you said it a few pages back then you're not on the same page.
*boom tish*
#BurnsADick
Posted by Cobotron on January 17th, 2015 @ 7:05pm CST
Ahhhhhh, wise guy, eh?Burn wrote:Technically if you said it a few pages back then you're not on the same page.
*boom tish*
#BurnsADick
Posted by Burn on January 17th, 2015 @ 7:33pm CST
Cobotron wrote:Ahhhhhh, wise guy, eh?Burn wrote:Technically if you said it a few pages back then you're not on the same page.
*boom tish*
#BurnsADick
Don't forget bully!
Posted by SkyWarpt on January 17th, 2015 @ 8:36pm CST
Emerje wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:SkyWarpt wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Emerje wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Can't say I'm excited for defensor as it means it's now more or less certain that the combaticons are coming and I had really hoped that we'd get a team like the seacons (or extreme long shot, liokaiser)
I wouldn't loose all hope. Since the Fan Built Combiner is coming out in 2016 it isn't unreasonable to assume we'll continue to get combiners past Hasbro's use of the Combiner Wars label. Now that Hasbro has established a new combining system and they've proven their popularity I wouldn't be surprised if we got at least one new set every year for a while.
Emerje
How do we know that this new combiner system is popular? Are there any sales figures in yet and does Hasbro share that info? I would say we'd have to wait for the first quarter 2015 stock report for any dom had their pre-orders pushed back to February and BBTS has theirs listed for March.
The fact that the "in stocks" sold out over night on Amazon is a good indication.
That's tough to say since we don't know how much stock Amazon had in the first place? If they had only 10 figures each (gross exaggeration I know) those would definitely sell out.
A single, and relatively small toy line like Generations is probably not going to make much of an impact on a stock report. The local Walmarts finished their resets and the AOE section is still bigger than the Generations section (with no RID in sight).
I'm simply calling it popular based on the fan reaction. It's been incredibly positive for a line that has a way of dividing fans and the "gotta catch 'em all!" mentality of CW is a sure way to sell figures. From what I've heard people are experiencing some really fast sellouts when finding these in stores. Plus it sounds like Hasbro is giving this line an unprecedented international release, even ahead of North America so they're certainly aware of the line's potential to be big.
I just wish I could find them in stores already. Walmart probably wont get wave one and won't get anything new until April like last year. Target doesn't stock enough to keep the anything on the shelf this time of year. Kmart is Kmart.
Emerje
It is a good indicator as the internet sales (whether presale or outright) lets a manufacturer/distributor know how much shelf space to buy for the upcoming year. Just because skylanders take up a whole aisle doesn't mean that store decided to dedicate that space, the aisle allocated was paid for. I'm noticing expanded TF resets in my area, which is good. Unfortunately, retailers often hold "new" stock in the back so old stock sells through by way of kids Xmas money, which is why we always have a tough time finding those end/beginning year releases on pegs.
Posted by william-james88 on January 17th, 2015 @ 9:09pm CST
Burn wrote:MightyMagnus78 wrote:I actually really like that.
No you do not! You are The MightyMagnus, don't buy into these white Prime repaints. You are like me, you want a Magnus that combines with his trailer, anything else is blasphemy!
I found the Beast Hunters Magnus to be a pretty impressive interpretation of the character using a mold based on Prime.
Posted by Noideaforaname on January 17th, 2015 @ 9:27pm CST
Posted by padfoo on January 17th, 2015 @ 9:40pm CST
SkyWarpt wrote:wetwithwaterwings wrote:Cobotron wrote:Just trying to sniff out the trail.
Has anyone found CW Voyagers at retail yet?
or only online.
East Coast are you wit me?
They've hit Texas. Silverbolt is fantastic. He's superior to CW Prime.
Must be a different part of TX, all my stores have peg warmed Tankor, the rodent, and TF4 one step changers
Your Silverbolt (this toy) looks so happy its like he flying home after meeting the girl of his dreams.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on January 17th, 2015 @ 10:15pm CST
Posted by Megatron Wolf on January 17th, 2015 @ 10:32pm CST
Posted by Windsweeper on January 17th, 2015 @ 10:46pm CST
Posted by Lordprime7755 on January 17th, 2015 @ 11:05pm CST
Posted by wetwithwaterwings on January 17th, 2015 @ 11:23pm CST
padfoo wrote:Your Silverbolt (this toy) looks so happy its like he flying home after meeting the girl of his dreams.
Posted by Sabrblade on January 17th, 2015 @ 11:40pm CST
Compare Ultra Prime's remold of Menasor with Leader Megatron. He's just way too big:
I'm more partial to this redeco, myself (the Optimus toy, specifically; not the limb-bots):robotmel wrote:
Posted by Immortal Starscream on January 18th, 2015 @ 12:22am CST
Posted by LE0KING on January 18th, 2015 @ 12:42am CST
Posted by koolkollectibleskhai on January 18th, 2015 @ 12:47am CST
Not liking that back kibble with the rotars flopping around, but overall not too bad a figure.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 18th, 2015 @ 12:47am CST
LE0KING wrote:I thought it was dumb seeing them use a mold so clearly designed for motormaster as a prime, but as the idea of it being used again as magnus is just idiotic.
The mold was much more likely developed to be BOTH Prime and Motormaster from the get-go. In fact, much more of the figure looks like Prime than it does anything like G1 Motormaster. The legs are a dead giveaway.
Posted by Madeus Prime on January 18th, 2015 @ 2:01am CST
Posted by Gearslide on January 18th, 2015 @ 2:25am CST
Wouldn't surprise me with all the alternate History happening in IDW if this is somehow Nova Prime or another old Prime.
Posted by lonrac on January 18th, 2015 @ 3:08am CST
(sorry just that I joined a sweepstakes years ago, and remember finding the 'winners' in a local newspaper for the prior week)
Posted by Dr. Caelus on January 18th, 2015 @ 3:25am CST
Wreckgar wrote:Having a look at Motormaster, with the right combination of red & blue, his chest could work. So all you'd need is a new head.
The lines aren't dead on, but they do seem generally reminiscent of Magnus's IDW look. Is there any way to fiddle his kibble to give him the iconic shoulder stacks?
Posted by Sabrblade on January 18th, 2015 @ 6:46am CST
The problem with it being Nova is that the Club is already doing a Nova toy, which they wouldn't have been allowed to do if Hasbro had upcoming plans for one of their own.Gearslide wrote:That White head with Black Faceplate and Blue eyes Ultra Prime redeco resembles Nova Prime, not Ultra Magnus' inner Not-Prime Design (Which has a White head with Blue Faceplate and Yellow eyes)
Wouldn't surprise me with all the alternate History happening in IDW if this is somehow Nova Prime or another old Prime.