Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks

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While many come to Seibertron for the latest Transformers news, we also have a message board where many fans share their love and criticism of all things Transformers (and you are all welcome to join in on the fun). Lately there has been discussion on the Legacy Elita-1 toy coming out next and on its legitimacy as a mold for Elita-1 herself or a mold made with someone else in mind. While all molds are made with multiple uses in mind, and there being some solid rumours of Elita-1's mold being reused for Minerva, a recent deep dive into the design process does give us a big hint that Elita-1's mold was made for her first and foremost (at least, it reads that way). In a recent Instagram post, Mark Maher, the lead Transformers designer at Hasbro, write about how difficult the design process was for this particular toy since so many people wanted various aspects, and he shows some different designs. One of them looks a lot like Alex Milne's design for Arcee in the TF vs Terminator comic for instance. We see some changes in the car mode as well, with the tires.

We also see some images of the sample figure in the two different backpack configurations.

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Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134508)
Posted by First-Aid on May 25th, 2022 @ 10:12pm CDT

[quote="Rodimus Prime"And I also know what a high profile character is. [/quote]

Yep, 6 minutes of TOTAL screen time in a single episode of a series that ran 4 seasons and was never seen again after that. Totally high profile. It's like naming the Underminer the a main character of the first "Incredibles" movie.

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134509)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 25th, 2022 @ 10:17pm CDT

First-Aid wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:And I also know what a high profile character is.

Yep, 6 minutes of TOTAL screen time in a single episode of a series that ran 4 seasons and was never seen again after that. Totally high profile. It's like naming the Underminer the a main character of the first "Incredibles" movie.

Being heavily connected to a high profile character is all it takes. Look at Roller! :lol:

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134511)
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on May 25th, 2022 @ 10:51pm CDT

The first design is weird... Elita One is too (Muscualar? Fat? I dunno) And the size of those *breasts* is sus. I think Elita One turned out fine the way she is now.

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134512)
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on May 25th, 2022 @ 10:54pm CDT

First-Aid wrote:[quote="Rodimus Prime"And I also know what a high profile character is.

Yep, 6 minutes of TOTAL screen time in a single episode of a series that ran 4 seasons and was never seen again after that. Totally high profile. It's like naming the Underminer the a main character of the first "Incredibles" movie.[/quote]

It's unintentional, Cheetor has that strange hinge too. They just wanted to show that he can acually sit on the thone

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134513)
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on May 25th, 2022 @ 10:55pm CDT

And whats with the h-2-228 on Elita? Looked it up and it's https://www.google.com/search?q=h+2+228&oq=h+2+228&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i546l3.2769j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134514)
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on May 25th, 2022 @ 10:57pm CDT

Evil Eye wrote:To be fair, Elita's cartoon model, being as it is without even Arcee's shoulder pods, is completely unworkable as a transforming toy (it doesn't even have an onscreen transformation!). Now personally I feel like a new Voyager scale Elita that turned into a streamlined Cybertronian truck would be cool, but this one doesn't look half bad.

I've seen concepts of truck Elita, but it seems lazy. She should be her own charecter, not just female optimus prime!

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134516)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 25th, 2022 @ 10:59pm CDT

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:And whats with the h-2-228 on Elita? Looked it up and it's https://www.google.com/search?q=h+2+228&oq=h+2+228&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i546l3.2769j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

That's probably the ID number for the test shot, it won't be on the final release.

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134518)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on May 25th, 2022 @ 11:10pm CDT

First-Aid wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:And I also know what a high profile character is.

Yep, 6 minutes of TOTAL screen time in a single episode of a series that ran 4 seasons and was never seen again after that. Totally high profile. It's like naming the Underminer the a main character of the first "Incredibles" movie.

So why is she still being talked about even now, and having gotten attention in the last 2 trilogies? Yet Minerva has been nowhere? When it comes to profile, Elita > Minerva.

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134519)
Posted by william-james88 on May 25th, 2022 @ 11:16pm CDT

Rodimus Prime wrote:
First-Aid wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:And I also know what a high profile character is.

Yep, 6 minutes of TOTAL screen time in a single episode of a series that ran 4 seasons and was never seen again after that. Totally high profile. It's like naming the Underminer the a main character of the first "Incredibles" movie.
So why is she still being talked about even now, and having gotten attention in the last 2 trilogies? Yet Minerva has been nowhere? When it comes to profile, Elita > Minerva.

Yes, and the designer is aware, hence my article. This mold is Elita's. Now if you like it or not, it's a different story and any take is valid. But Hasbro deems this their attempt at a mold focused on a G1 Elita-1.

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134521)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on May 25th, 2022 @ 11:29pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
First-Aid wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:And I also know what a high profile character is.

Yep, 6 minutes of TOTAL screen time in a single episode of a series that ran 4 seasons and was never seen again after that. Totally high profile. It's like naming the Underminer the a main character of the first "Incredibles" movie.
So why is she still being talked about even now, and having gotten attention in the last 2 trilogies? Yet Minerva has been nowhere? When it comes to profile, Elita > Minerva.

Yes, and the designer is aware, hence my article. This mold is Elita's. Now if you like it or not, it's a different story and any take is valid. But Hasbro deems this their attempt at a mold focused on a G1 Elita-1.

I understand that, which is why I don't like it and said so. But I'm just 1 person, and Hasbro goes with majority opinion, because that makes them the most money. So if a lot of others like the figure and accept it as an adequate or even excellent representation of the character, it is what it is. We all have our opinion and (presumably) our own money to spend and in the end that's what matters. We must speak with our wallets because that's the most common language Hasbro understands, from design to accounting to marketing.

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134522)
Posted by Glarryg on May 25th, 2022 @ 11:45pm CDT

I gotta admit, this design appeals to me more than the majority of the lady-bot car designs from the last few years of CHUG. And, personally, I've stopped caring just how much the term "Legacy" applies to these figures, since some of the better-looking ones (like Elita and the Prime Universe figures) have strayed the most from their original looks. Sacrificing show accuracy for a better Transformer toy is worth it to me.

Glarryg

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134525)
Posted by cloudballoon on May 26th, 2022 @ 12:57am CDT

Glarryg wrote:I gotta admit, this design appeals to me more than the majority of the lady-bot car designs from the last few years of CHUG. And, personally, I've stopped caring just how much the term "Legacy" applies to these figures, since some of the better-looking ones (like Elita and the Prime Universe figures) have strayed the most from their original looks. Sacrificing show accuracy for a better Transformer toy is worth it to me.

Glarryg

Legacy is a fun & great concept if Hasbro can pull it off properly. I think, as lacking as Bulkhead & especially Arcee were in its execution, choosing them to Geewunify is a good idea. Legacy brings Bulkhead into the G1/80's universe, and Arcee a more realistic Earth mode that people can't complain like the T30/ER/SS versions. So Geewunify more popular non-G1 characters into G1 designs, I'm fine with that!

But I wished Hasbro would go with doing faithful-to-toon TFP Knockout, Blackarachnia & Smokescreen. If not in Legacy than in a future toy line. Those were the weakest of the TFP figures and deserve a redo. Bring TFP Ratchet into the Voyager scale would be nice too.

So Legacy Knockout is a disappointment in that regard (for me). But I still pre-ordered as it's a good figure. It'll replace the original until I can get a near-MSRP R.E.D. Knockout as a replacement on my Prime shelf (then I'll rework it into Rapido). I haven't found R.E.D. Knockout available in stores or online at Walmart Canada yet though. I don't have my hopes up.

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134526)
Posted by Bounti76 on May 26th, 2022 @ 1:43am CDT

Evil Eye wrote:To be fair, Elita's cartoon model, being as it is without even Arcee's shoulder pods, is completely unworkable as a transforming toy (it doesn't even have an onscreen transformation!). Now personally I feel like a new Voyager scale Elita that turned into a streamlined Cybertronian truck would be cool, but this one doesn't look half bad.

I just watched 'Search for Alpha Trion' today, and she actually did transform in that episode, right when she and Prime pull up after she's repaired. It's mostly obscured by Prime, though. The front of her car mode kind of shrinks and forms her chest. You'd think the leader of the female Autobots (and Prime's girlfriend) would have gotten a better transformation than that. Hell, you see more of Lancer and Greenlight's transformations than Elita's, and they didn't even have any lines in the episode, not to mention it took almost 25 years after it aired for them to even get names.

That being said, I do think Elita One should have been a larger Deluxe (like Ironhide), or a Voyager, to better scale with Prime.

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134535)
Posted by Rtron on May 26th, 2022 @ 7:13am CDT

First-Aid wrote:As a TF Prime lover, that Knockout is just a$$. Yes the original toy was also, but Geewunning that figure is a horrific insult to the animation model. If it were, say, a new character or even Prowl/Bluestreak/Smokescreen it would be infinitely better. But as a TFP figure, it's just insulting.

It's also such a weird decision. They didn't G1-ify Beast Wars or the Unicron trilogy, thankfully. So I don't know what the deal with them doing that crap to Transformers Prime is. Everyone is saying "hey, but what ifs are cool". Yeah, they're cool when you've gotten the main version first. Otherwise, it feels like a crappy bait and switch.

For those who don't get the complaints about the Prime guys having gotten G-ified. Imagine if Hasbro had never made a new G1 Starscream, no classics seeker mold, no Generations, no Combiner Wars or WFC or anything. And then, when it finally seems like you'll get a new one, it's 2007 movie Starscream in G1 colors. You'd all be losing your shit.

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134537)
Posted by Emerje on May 26th, 2022 @ 8:33am CDT

Rtron wrote:For those who don't get the complaints about the Prime guys having gotten G-ified. Imagine if Hasbro had never made a new G1 Starscream, no classics seeker mold, no Generations, no Combiner Wars or WFC or anything. And then, when it finally seems like you'll get a new one, it's 2007 movie Starscream in G1 colors. You'd all be losing your ****.

Funny thing is if Classics didn't happen we would have gotten just that.

I wonder how we would have reacted? RobotMasters was out there in Japan, but Hasbro didn't have any interest in importing it so most fans didn't have access. There was the Starscream repaint from Energon, but that's no better than the movie repaint since it was a different character and not a perfect resemblance. I feel like we just would have been amused and a little annoyed by the paint app more than anything since there wasn't much of a precedence for new G1 figures back then. We're pretty spoiled now.

What I want to know is why people want new Prime toys that look exactly like the original toys? What could Hasbro possibly do to improve on them now? Ankle tilts? Nothing they could do today would be better than what we had then so they may as well do something different. What we need is more reissues IMO.

Emerje

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134539)
Posted by TulioDude on May 26th, 2022 @ 8:40am CDT

I think it's cool to have a unified design aesthetic for a line(and the brand as whole), I just don't think it's a good idea to call it the "G1 aesthetic".

Elita One is looking cool.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
First-Aid wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:And I also know what a high profile character is.

Yep, 6 minutes of TOTAL screen time in a single episode of a series that ran 4 seasons and was never seen again after that. Totally high profile. It's like naming the Underminer the a main character of the first "Incredibles" movie.

Being heavily connected to a high profile character is all it takes. Look at Roller!

There's so many characters that have brief story appearances. If we can get all of the seeker repaints, we can have Elita One.

Day 877 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134540)
Posted by Evil Eye on May 26th, 2022 @ 8:41am CDT

Emerje wrote:
Rtron wrote:For those who don't get the complaints about the Prime guys having gotten G-ified. Imagine if Hasbro had never made a new G1 Starscream, no classics seeker mold, no Generations, no Combiner Wars or WFC or anything. And then, when it finally seems like you'll get a new one, it's 2007 movie Starscream in G1 colors. You'd all be losing your ****.

Funny thing is if Classics didn't happen we would have gotten just that.

I wonder how we would have reacted? RobotMasters was out there in Japan, but Hasbro didn't have any interest in importing it so most fans didn't have access. There was the Starscream repaint from Energon, but that's no better than the movie repaint since it was a different character and not a perfect resemblance. I feel like we just would have been amused and a little annoyed by the paint app more than anything since there wasn't much of a precedence for new G1 figures back then. We're pretty spoiled now.

What I want to know is why people want new Prime toys that look exactly like the original toys? What could Hasbro possibly do to improve on them now? Ankle tilts? Nothing they could do today would be better than what we had then so they may as well do something different. What we need is more reissues IMO.

Emerje

[Sighs in Airachnid]

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134543)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 26th, 2022 @ 8:50am CDT

Evil Eye wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Rtron wrote:For those who don't get the complaints about the Prime guys having gotten G-ified. Imagine if Hasbro had never made a new G1 Starscream, no classics seeker mold, no Generations, no Combiner Wars or WFC or anything. And then, when it finally seems like you'll get a new one, it's 2007 movie Starscream in G1 colors. You'd all be losing your ****.

Funny thing is if Classics didn't happen we would have gotten just that.

I wonder how we would have reacted? RobotMasters was out there in Japan, but Hasbro didn't have any interest in importing it so most fans didn't have access. There was the Starscream repaint from Energon, but that's no better than the movie repaint since it was a different character and not a perfect resemblance. I feel like we just would have been amused and a little annoyed by the paint app more than anything since there wasn't much of a precedence for new G1 figures back then. We're pretty spoiled now.

What I want to know is why people want new Prime toys that look exactly like the original toys? What could Hasbro possibly do to improve on them now? Ankle tilts? Nothing they could do today would be better than what we had then so they may as well do something different. What we need is more reissues IMO.

Emerje

[Sighs in Airachnid]

This. there were figures that were subpar that needed a redo, among them Knockout, Airachnid, and Smokescreen. There are also figures that needed something more in scale and could use an improvement, like Predaking, Darksteel, and Sky Lynx. Then there were some where they got a good figure, but it was the damned first editions that were hard to get a hold of and are uber expensive now, like Cliffjumper and Arcee. Lest we forget that Hasbro never released a Breakdown until the new re-release and we were shorted a Unicron Megatron.

There were options.

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134551)
Posted by sol magnus on May 26th, 2022 @ 9:57am CDT

Rodimus Prime wrote:
First-Aid wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:And I also know what a high profile character is.

Yep, 6 minutes of TOTAL screen time in a single episode of a series that ran 4 seasons and was never seen again after that. Totally high profile. It's like naming the Underminer the a main character of the first "Incredibles" movie.
So why is she still being talked about even now, and having gotten attention in the last 2 trilogies? Yet Minerva has been nowhere? When it comes to profile, Elita > Minerva.

You're definitely correct there. Minerva hasn't really been used in American fiction, until very recently - The Wreckers comic that wrapped a few months back. In that comic, she's sporting that body and alt-mode given to the currently discussed Elita-1.

Besides the rumors, my thinking was that it takes a good while to plan all this stuff out. Minerva started appearing as a Wrecker last year, which means they probably started finalizing all this in 2020(?). Is it the chicken or the egg? I don't know - I don't care, either. I'm just breaking down why it 'makes sense' that Minerva was the original and Elita-1 the tool modification, but we know all these alternate heads and body parts get put on the same sprue so it doesn't really have to be either/or.

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134552)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 26th, 2022 @ 10:20am CDT

sol magnus wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
First-Aid wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:And I also know what a high profile character is.

Yep, 6 minutes of TOTAL screen time in a single episode of a series that ran 4 seasons and was never seen again after that. Totally high profile. It's like naming the Underminer the a main character of the first "Incredibles" movie.
So why is she still being talked about even now, and having gotten attention in the last 2 trilogies? Yet Minerva has been nowhere? When it comes to profile, Elita > Minerva.

You're definitely correct there. Minerva hasn't really been used in American fiction, until very recently - The Wreckers comic that wrapped a few months back. In that comic, she's sporting that body and alt-mode given to the currently discussed Elita-1.

Besides the rumors, my thinking was that it takes a good while to plan all this stuff out. Minerva started appearing as a Wrecker last year, which means they probably started finalizing all this in 2020(?). Is it the chicken or the egg? I don't know - I don't care, either. I'm just breaking down why it 'makes sense' that Minerva was the original and Elita-1 the tool modification, but we know all these alternate heads and body parts get put on the same sprue so it doesn't really have to be either/or.

Pretty much this, we know that it takes about 2 years to design a toy.

Also, if you want to get technical, mineva has vastly more screen Time then Elita, only difference is the countries that it was shown

Ultimately I don't think it matters who came first or who wears it best. As long as the Mineva rumours are correct, she'll get her first toy in the west (unless there's some exclusive I'm not familiar with) that should be cause for celebration anyway.

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134554)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on May 26th, 2022 @ 10:40am CDT

I wasn't crapping on Minerva, I wish she had been featured more. I'm just saying they're distinct enough that they deserve separate designs.

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Posted by sol magnus on May 26th, 2022 @ 10:44am CDT

Rodimus Prime wrote:I wasn't crapping on Minerva, I wish she had been featured more. I'm just saying they're distinct enough that they deserve separate designs.

Oh, I never thought you were. And I don't disagree. If I had an issue with saturation, though, I'd say Arcee and Elita-1 are both being made a bit too repeatedly.

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134559)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 26th, 2022 @ 11:20am CDT

Also, Elita, her pals, and Arcee may have all appeared first, but Minerva was the first-ever female character to get a TOY released at mass retail (barring later-made retcons).

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134561)
Posted by Autobot N on May 26th, 2022 @ 11:26am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:Also, Elita, her pals, and Arcee may have all appeared first, but Minerva was the first-ever female character to get a TOY released at mass retail (barring later-made retcons).

I don't count Ask Vector Prime retcons, Minerva was the first figure specifically intended to be a girl

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Posted by Sabrblade on May 26th, 2022 @ 11:36am CDT

Autobot N wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Also, Elita, her pals, and Arcee may have all appeared first, but Minerva was the first-ever female character to get a TOY released at mass retail (barring later-made retcons).
I don't count Ask Vector Prime retcons, Minerva was the first figure specifically intended to be a girl

AllSpark Almanac, but same author.

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134574)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 26th, 2022 @ 12:38pm CDT

Who was the later retcon?

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134577)
Posted by grimdragon2001 on May 26th, 2022 @ 12:45pm CDT

Here's hoping Minerva comes with her Titanmaster that came with LGEX God Ginrai, just to make her truly complete

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134581)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 26th, 2022 @ 1:16pm CDT

ZeroWolf wrote:Who was the later retcon?

Freezon.

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Posted by ZeroWolf on May 26th, 2022 @ 1:30pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Who was the later retcon?
Freezon.

Interesting, thanks Sabrblade.

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Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 26th, 2022 @ 5:50pm CDT

Evil Eye wrote:[Sighs in Airachnid]

Pssst!

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134611)
Posted by Emerje on May 26th, 2022 @ 8:28pm CDT

Autobot N wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Also, Elita, her pals, and Arcee may have all appeared first, but Minerva was the first-ever female character to get a TOY released at mass retail (barring later-made retcons).
I don't count Ask Vector Prime retcons, Minerva was the first figure specifically intended to be a girl

Uh...

Semantics, but let's just settle for "first female figure".

Emerje

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134614)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 26th, 2022 @ 9:43pm CDT

Emerje wrote:
Autobot N wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Also, Elita, her pals, and Arcee may have all appeared first, but Minerva was the first-ever female character to get a TOY released at mass retail (barring later-made retcons).
I don't count Ask Vector Prime retcons, Minerva was the first figure specifically intended to be a girl

Uh...

Semantics, but let's just settle for "first female figure".

Emerje

Let's do it like this, barring retcons:

MF Minerva: first female character to get a toy, period
BotCon 1995 Nightracer: first female character to get a toy in the US
BW Blackarachnia: first female character to get a toy in US main retail
BW Transmetal Airazor: first toy specifically designed as female

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Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 26th, 2022 @ 10:13pm CDT

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Let's do it like this, barring retcons:

MF Minerva: first female character to get a toy, period
BotCon 1995 Nightracer: first female character to get a toy in the US
BW Blackarachnia: first female character to get a toy in US main retail
BW Transmetal Airazor: first toy specifically designed as female

Meanwhile, they'res that annoying person who always cry out "first":

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134624)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on May 27th, 2022 @ 9:25am CDT

Chefatron put up reviews of leadfoot, spindle, clampdown, and ss Bumblebee

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Posted by Sabrblade on May 27th, 2022 @ 11:10am CDT

Razorbeast88 wrote:Chefatron put up reviews of leadfoot, spindle, clampdown, and ss Bumblebee

And none of which go in this thread.

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134631)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on May 27th, 2022 @ 11:17am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
Razorbeast88 wrote:Chefatron put up reviews of leadfoot, spindle, clampdown, and ss Bumblebee
And none of which go in this thread.

Haha my bad, wasn't sure what thread leadfoot and spindle go to

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134632)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 27th, 2022 @ 11:18am CDT

Razorbeast88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Razorbeast88 wrote:Chefatron put up reviews of leadfoot, spindle, clampdown, and ss Bumblebee
And none of which go in this thread.

Haha my bad, wasn't sure what thread leadfoot and spindle go to

Oh wait, yeah, those two are fine.

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134639)
Posted by MadProject on May 27th, 2022 @ 11:28am CDT

Seen this this afternoon on Facebook, I don't remember who's the original poster.
But, we finally see that Wildrider's backpack can be collapsed on his back a-la-CW style.

wildrider back.jpg

wildrider side.jpg

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134642)
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on May 27th, 2022 @ 11:41am CDT

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:And whats with the h-2-228 on Elita? Looked it up and it's https://www.google.com/search?q=h+2+228&oq=h+2+228&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i546l3.2769j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

That's probably the ID number for the test shot, it won't be on the final release.

Alright, thought it was something like that.

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134646)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on May 27th, 2022 @ 12:21pm CDT

MadProject wrote:Seen this this afternoon on Facebook, I don't remember who's the original poster.
But, we finally see that Wildrider's backpack can be collapsed on his back a-la-CW style.

wildrider back.jpg

wildrider side.jpg

I swear they showed this off in the reveal stream like how they showed off Elita's being collapsible? It's nice to see stock photography with it, but persoanlly, I don't have any issue with the splayed out version

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134647)
Posted by sol magnus on May 27th, 2022 @ 12:23pm CDT

Sentinel_Primal wrote:
MadProject wrote:Seen this this afternoon on Facebook, I don't remember who's the original poster.
But, we finally see that Wildrider's backpack can be collapsed on his back a-la-CW style.

wildrider back.jpg

wildrider side.jpg

I swear they showed this off in the reveal stream like how they showed off Elita's being collapsible? It's nice to see stock photography with it, but persoanlly, I don't have any issue with the splayed out version

Exactly. Talk about a nitpick (although I will be using the backpack version lol)

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134648)
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on May 27th, 2022 @ 12:25pm CDT

Sentinel_Primal wrote:
MadProject wrote:Seen this this afternoon on Facebook, I don't remember who's the original poster.
But, we finally see that Wildrider's backpack can be collapsed on his back a-la-CW style.

wildrider back.jpg

wildrider side.jpg

I swear they showed this off in the reveal stream like how they showed off Elita's being collapsible? It's nice to see stock photography with it, but persoanlly, I don't have any issue with the splayed out version

The reason there are two variations is so fans will all be pleased. Some will liked it collapsed, and some will like it "splayed out" better. Also, if it couldn't collapse, It wouldn't be able to transform. :BOWDOWN:

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134691)
Posted by Munkky on May 28th, 2022 @ 10:26am CDT

I got Drag Strip yesterday, and he's pretty nice. I was unsure how I felt about the Legacy Stunticons dropping Combiner Wars compatibility, but I ended up liking Legacy Drag Strip a lot more than the Combiner Wars version, he works better as a standalone figure than many Combiner Wars Deluxes do. Something I noticed is that there's no section in the instructions on how to separate the vehicle mode for the combination, I'm guessing that will be part of Motormaster's instructions.

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134692)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 28th, 2022 @ 10:42am CDT

Munkky wrote:I got Drag Strip yesterday, and he's pretty nice. I was unsure how I felt about the Legacy Stunticons dropping Combiner Wars compatibility, but I ended up liking Legacy Drag Strip a lot more than the Combiner Wars version, he works better as a standalone figure than many Combiner Wars Deluxes do. Something I noticed is that there's no section in the instructions on how to separate the vehicle mode for the combination, I'm guessing that will be part of Motormaster's instructions.

It looks to be something that happens when you plug the arm bots into the frame as sort of a auto morph.

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134698)
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on May 28th, 2022 @ 12:09pm CDT

Munkky wrote:I got Drag Strip yesterday, and he's pretty nice. I was unsure how I felt about the Legacy Stunticons dropping Combiner Wars compatibility, but I ended up liking Legacy Drag Strip a lot more than the Combiner Wars version, he works better as a standalone figure than many Combiner Wars Deluxes do. Something I noticed is that there's no section in the instructions on how to separate the vehicle mode for the combination, I'm guessing that will be part of Motormaster's instructions.

The new stunt icons look almost perfect, likely best we'll ever get from :HASBRO:

anyway! That original combiner wars dragstrip/mirage mold was terrible in my opinion. >:oP

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134705)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on May 28th, 2022 @ 2:14pm CDT

Just saw an image of Core class Shockwave…
Looks good from what I could see!

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134707)
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on May 28th, 2022 @ 2:50pm CDT

Sowndwave76 wrote:Just saw an image of Core class Shockwave…
Looks good from what I could see!

Just noticed it before I noticed your comment. It looks nice, but I'll have to skip

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134712)
Posted by sol magnus on May 28th, 2022 @ 4:41pm CDT

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:
Sowndwave76 wrote:Just saw an image of Core class Shockwave…
Looks good from what I could see!

Just noticed it before I noticed your comment. It looks nice, but I'll have to skip

I actually may get it and leave it in alt-mode.

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134714)
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on May 28th, 2022 @ 4:44pm CDT

sol magnus wrote:
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:
Sowndwave76 wrote:Just saw an image of Core class Shockwave…
Looks good from what I could see!

Just noticed it before I noticed your comment. It looks nice, but I'll have to skip

I actually may get it and leave it in alt-mode.

The alt mode is the mode I didn't like as much, but ok. Nevermind the alt mode is fine.

Re: Transformers Designer Discusses Legacy Elita-1 Design Process and Shares Different Looks (2134718)
Posted by william-james88 on May 28th, 2022 @ 5:21pm CDT

Felow Seibertronian RodimusPrimeUkraine1 sent us this image of the back of Legacy core class Shockwave's box. It is our very first look at the toy. While we knew of this toy for a good while now, it always threw fans for a loop since not only were we getting a core Shockwave in the SS line but Hasbro had already released a G1 styled Shockwave of that size in Combiner Wars. Well, now it makes sense since that toy's engineering can be seen repeated here. It is rather distinctive from the previous toy though with new accessories turning the gun alt mode into a ship similar to the Siege version. Check the photo below along with the case breakdown of the wave 2 core class assortment.

Iguanas x1
Optimus Prime (repack) x1
G2 Megatron x2
Shockwave x2