Transformers Combiner Wars Devastator - Retail & SDCC Comparison
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Posted by Optimizzy on July 1st, 2015 @ 12:11pm CDT
Posted by Killraven on July 1st, 2015 @ 12:21pm CDT
Posted by OptimalOptimus2 on July 1st, 2015 @ 12:26pm CDT
Killraven wrote:Yeah, I think I'm going to just stick w/ the Hasbro version and pass on the SDCC. Now that I've seen them next to each other, I personally think the Hasbro one looks much, much better.
You can say that again.
Sabrblade wrote:Uh oh, he don't look too happy, guys.Burn wrote:william-james88 wrote:And while Burn might look intimidating, let me reassure you guys that he is warm and fuzzy when you get to know him.
Oh you are so going to regret that ...
That's our Burn!
Posted by GuyIncognito on July 1st, 2015 @ 12:29pm CDT
What's with the elbows/forearms in that picture where they're side by side? Are the elbows just rotated differently?
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 1st, 2015 @ 12:54pm CDT
Posted by Samsonator on July 1st, 2015 @ 1:24pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 1st, 2015 @ 1:28pm CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 1st, 2015 @ 1:34pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Uh oh, he don't look too happy, guys.Burn wrote:william-james88 wrote:And while Burn might look intimidating, let me reassure you guys that he is warm and fuzzy when you get to know him.
Oh you are so going to regret that ...
Sensei Wu is never happy
Posted by Mr_Autobot411 on July 1st, 2015 @ 2:04pm CDT
he doesnt have the visor, and he looks like a diff character.
I like the hasbro version, but im waiting for takara's personally.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 1st, 2015 @ 2:15pm CDT
Mr_Autobot411 wrote:SDCC head is wrong imo.
he doesnt have the visor, and he looks like a diff character.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 1st, 2015 @ 2:16pm CDT
Mr_Autobot411 wrote:SDCC head is wrong imo.
he doesnt have the visor, and he looks like a diff character.
I like the hasbro version, but im waiting for takara's personally.
"Correct" is a matter of interpretation:
The TakaraTomy version has the visor head.
EDIT: Primus slag it, Sabrblade!
Posted by Spanbauer on July 1st, 2015 @ 2:36pm CDT
shajaki wrote:There's plenty of Devastator to go around these days, and Planet Iacon has uploaded a shot comparing the Retail Hasbro Combiner Wars Devastator to the upcoming SDCC Exclusive version! The retail version has just started hitting the market in Australia, the US, and online at ToysRus.com, while the shiny exclusive version will be available at San Diego Comic-Con July 8th to 12th. All that's left to see is TakaraTomy's Unite Warriors rendition, but there's no release date slated yet. See the Hasbro pair below, and stay tuned to Seibertron.com: home for the best Galleries and Conversation around!
Two things I wish that Takara Tomy had carried over to their version from the SDCC version is the extra purple where the legs meet the hips (cartoon accurate) and the hashmark caution stickers mimicking the G1 toys.
If Hasbro was going for an "ultimate G1" deco with their SDCC version, I don't know why in God's name Hasbro opted to vac-metal some of the purple parts instead of the silver parts. Nobody likes the pink metal business; at best, some people are tolerating it to get the extra decals and paint apps the SDCC version additionally offers.
Posted by Mr_Autobot411 on July 1st, 2015 @ 3:16pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Mr_Autobot411 wrote:SDCC head is wrong imo.
he doesnt have the visor, and he looks like a diff character.
I like the hasbro version, but im waiting for takara's personally.
"Correct" is a matter of interpretation:
The TakaraTomy version has the visor head.
EDIT: Primus slag it, Sabrblade!
well he has been drawn differently time to time in the g1 show, but i personally feel the head isnt as good as homage as hasbro's. To each their own as they say.
Posted by Shockwave7 on July 1st, 2015 @ 3:24pm CDT
Mr_Autobot411 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Mr_Autobot411 wrote:SDCC head is wrong imo.
he doesnt have the visor, and he looks like a diff character.
I like the hasbro version, but im waiting for takara's personally.
"Correct" is a matter of interpretation:
The TakaraTomy version has the visor head.
EDIT: Primus slag it, Sabrblade!
well he has been drawn differently time to time in the g1 show, but i personally feel the head isnt as good as homage as hasbro's. To each their own as they say.
I always did wonder why Devastator only had that head for that ONE scene. Obviously they whipped up that episode while Devastator was still being worked on. The basics are there, just not 'finished'. (In the episode, Scrapper called Scavenger 'Scrounge' instead of Scavenger, so they must also have been confused about the names)
But I'm looking forward to Titan Trypticon - I had G1 Trypticon back in the day....
Posted by william-james88 on July 1st, 2015 @ 3:55pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Mr_Autobot411 wrote:SDCC head is wrong imo.
he doesnt have the visor, and he looks like a diff character.
That head is still wrong then since they didnt even paint the top silver, so now that SDCC version represents no interpretation of the character
While Takara's represents both simultaneously.
Posted by Burn on July 1st, 2015 @ 4:14pm CDT
Cobotron wrote:Anybody heard from Burn yet? Is he back from his trek across the wastelands? Hope he didn't run into any of those mohawked gasoline stealing mutant warlords.
Aiming to head up this afternoon after work. So if everything goes according to plan (and me being the Negatron that I am, expect something to go wrong), I should have him in about 12 hours.
And I don't live in the desert you git.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 1st, 2015 @ 4:18pm CDT
Burn wrote:Cobotron wrote:Anybody heard from Burn yet? Is he back from his trek across the wastelands? Hope he didn't run into any of those mohawked gasoline stealing mutant warlords.
Aiming to head up this afternoon after work. So if everything goes according to plan (and me being the Negatron that I am, expect something to go wrong), I should have him in about 12 hours.
And I don't live in the desert you git.
You sure? I, mean it is an hour to the nearest Devastator
Posted by Cobotron on July 1st, 2015 @ 4:21pm CDT
Well, since 22% of Australia is inhabitable, I had a 78% chance of being right.Burn wrote:And I don't live in the desert you git.
Good luck bro. Safe journey.
Posted by Burn on July 1st, 2015 @ 4:28pm CDT
Cobotron wrote:Well, since 22% of Australia is inhabitable, I had a 78% chance of being right.Burn wrote:And I don't live in the desert you git.
Good luck bro. Safe journey.
You've got a 78% chance of getting a new sig at this rate.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 1st, 2015 @ 4:28pm CDT
"Heavy Metal War" (left image):Shockwave7 wrote:I always did wonder why Devastator only had that head for that ONE scene.
"City of Steel":
william-james88 wrote:That head is still wrong then since they didnt even paint the top silver, so now that SDCC version represents no interpretation of the character
Posted by william-james88 on July 1st, 2015 @ 4:31pm CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 1st, 2015 @ 4:37pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:still, the audience you are attracting with that head sculpt and paint job becomes more and more niche by the second.
So, wait, a lack of silver paint on the forehead is keeping you from buying a figure we have been clamoring for forever? Sounds to me like it's not the toy that has issues
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 1st, 2015 @ 5:01pm CDT
Burn wrote:Cobotron wrote:Well, since 22% of Australia is inhabitable, I had a 78% chance of being right.Burn wrote:And I don't live in the desert you git.
Good luck bro. Safe journey.
You've got a 78% chance of getting a new sig at this rate.
What is a "git" and a "sig"?
On topic: I need Devy now. He's coming out and I need him
Posted by King Kuuga on July 1st, 2015 @ 5:13pm CDT
Sig: That thing below your post where you can put banners and text.
Posted by william-james88 on July 1st, 2015 @ 5:14pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:william-james88 wrote:still, the audience you are attracting with that head sculpt and paint job becomes more and more niche by the second.
So, wait, a lack of silver paint on the forehead is keeping you from buying a figure we have been clamoring for forever? Sounds to me like it's not the toy that has issues
Your comment assumed SDCC is our only option which it isnt. What I am saying is that with a Hasbro version available, wooing your audience into buying a more expensive one aint gonna happen when the cheaper version has the more accurate headsculpt and actual paint on it. Are you saying you will buy the SDCC version? You arent and I caught that. So please catch what I am trying to say too instead of putting words in my mouth, I dont care if you were joking.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 1st, 2015 @ 5:27pm CDT
That Bot wrote:Git: Slang pejorative in British and apparently Austalian English.
Sig: That thing below your post where you can put banners and text.
Thank you much!
Posted by Emerje on July 1st, 2015 @ 5:34pm CDT
brokenchopstick wrote:Looks like even Hasbro were confused about Mixmaster's new 'front discharge' configuration...
Guys, you had one job.
The Hasbro version is a little shaky backwards since they didn't paint the details aside from the black windows and stacks, but the Takara Tomy version should look pretty good backwards with all the truck details painted in.
I think Seibertron should run a poll to see if people prefer the retail or SDCC version of Devastator most since it seems to be less about price and difficulty and more about aesthetic choices.
My choice is definitely retail, I don't think I've ever been more disappointed in an SDCC exclusive.
Emerje
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 1st, 2015 @ 5:56pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:william-james88 wrote:still, the audience you are attracting with that head sculpt and paint job becomes more and more niche by the second.
So, wait, a lack of silver paint on the forehead is keeping you from buying a figure we have been clamoring for forever? Sounds to me like it's not the toy that has issues
Your comment assumed SDCC is our only option which it isnt. What I am saying is that with a Hasbro version available, wooing your audience into buying a more expensive one aint gonna happen when the cheaper version has the more accurate headsculpt and actual paint on it. Are you saying you will buy the SDCC version? You arent and I caught that. So please catch what I am trying to say too instead of putting words in my mouth, I dont care if you were joking.
No, I noticed that too, I found it really funny; putting the 2 side by side really brought out a lot of weird stuff in the deco. If I get any version, it will be the TT version. I was merely pointing out that stuff like the forehead do keep people from buying something that they've wanted forever.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 1st, 2015 @ 6:01pm CDT
Emerje wrote:brokenchopstick wrote:Looks like even Hasbro were confused about Mixmaster's new 'front discharge' configuration...
Guys, you had one job.
The Hasbro version is a little shaky backwards since they didn't paint the details aside from the black windows and stacks, but the Takara Tomy version should look pretty good backwards with all the truck details painted in.
Eh... those aren't windows. Those are the vents for the engine that rotates the drum. It's not a second cab.
Posted by william-james88 on July 1st, 2015 @ 6:06pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:william-james88 wrote:still, the audience you are attracting with that head sculpt and paint job becomes more and more niche by the second.
So, wait, a lack of silver paint on the forehead is keeping you from buying a figure we have been clamoring for forever? Sounds to me like it's not the toy that has issues
Your comment assumed SDCC is our only option which it isnt. What I am saying is that with a Hasbro version available, wooing your audience into buying a more expensive one aint gonna happen when the cheaper version has the more accurate headsculpt and actual paint on it. Are you saying you will buy the SDCC version? You arent and I caught that. So please catch what I am trying to say too instead of putting words in my mouth, I dont care if you were joking.
No, I noticed that too, I found it really funny; putting the 2 side by side really brought out a lot of weird stuff in the deco. If I get any version, it will be the TT version. I was merely pointing out that stuff like the forehead do keep people from buying something that they've wanted forever.
Its a good thing those people who wanted it forever have a choice in the version they want. A more apt feature to comment on would have been the elbows. How much are the elbows worth to people (including me). We will find out when it's on preorder. I am personally hoping for 175$ US or under at amiami.
Posted by shajaki on July 1st, 2015 @ 6:16pm CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 1st, 2015 @ 6:48pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:No, I noticed that too, I found it really funny; putting the 2 side by side really brought out a lot of weird stuff in the deco. If I get any version, it will be the TT version. I was merely pointing out that stuff like the forehead do keep people from buying something that they've wanted forever.
Its a good thing those people who wanted it forever have a choice in the version they want. A more apt feature to comment on would have been the elbows. How much are the elbows worth to people (including me). We will find out when it's on preorder. I am personally hoping for 175$ US or under at amiami.
I'm guessing it will very well received. From the comments I've read, every person who even considers displaying them separately are waiting to see what the price will be.
Personally I would be willing to pay an additional $50 for a PREMIUM paint job, just see TT's Devastator just dripping in painted details, like a Behr store just sneezed on it
Posted by Burn on July 1st, 2015 @ 7:48pm CDT
That Bot wrote:Git: Slang pejorative in British and apparently Austalian English.
Or as we like to call it, "English".
Posted by Emerje on July 1st, 2015 @ 7:57pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Emerje wrote:The Hasbro version is a little shaky backwards since they didn't paint the details aside from the black windows and stacks, but the Takara Tomy version should look pretty good backwards with all the truck details painted in.
Eh... those aren't windows. Those are the vents for the engine that rotates the drum. It's not a second cab.
Takara Tomy is definitely treating it like a second cab.
They even painted the bar between the windows to look like Mixmaster's single cab window.
Emerje
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 1st, 2015 @ 8:01pm CDT
Emerje wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Emerje wrote:The Hasbro version is a little shaky backwards since they didn't paint the details aside from the black windows and stacks, but the Takara Tomy version should look pretty good backwards with all the truck details painted in.
Eh... those aren't windows. Those are the vents for the engine that rotates the drum. It's not a second cab.
Takara Tomy is definitely treating it like a second cab.
They even painted the bar between the windows to look like Mixmaster's single cab window.
Emerje
That's an interesting and unique way of being both a modern vehicle and G1 accurate at the same time; I kinda like it
Still would've liked a ball-jointed neck on him, and the silverbolt and hot/slaught torso mold.
Posted by william-james88 on July 1st, 2015 @ 8:22pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:I'm guessing it will very well received. From the comments I've read, every person who even considers displaying them separately are waiting to see what the price will be.
Personally I would be willing to pay an additional $50 for a PREMIUM paint job, just see TT's Devastator just dripping in painted details, like a Behr store just sneezed on it
Not to dissapoint but he wont be. The SDCC version still has the most paint apps, TT is just trying to be as G1 as possible. There are better paint apps sure, but he isn't drenching in them:
SDCC Exclusive
Hasbro Combiner Wars
Generation 1
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 1st, 2015 @ 9:03pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:I'm guessing it will very well received. From the comments I've read, every person who even considers displaying them separately are waiting to see what the price will be.
Personally I would be willing to pay an additional $50 for a PREMIUM paint job, just see TT's Devastator just dripping in painted details, like a Behr store just sneezed on it
Not to dissapoint but he wont be. The SDCC version still has the most paint apps, TT is just trying to be as G1 as possible. There are better paint apps sure, but he isn't drenching in them:
I know what he will look like; I was actually hearkening back to the first movie and the "premium" sub-line where everyone got a spiffy new or better paint job. It wouldn't sell well if the general retail version was $200+ just for paint apps, but if they released a pseudo-masterpiece version or a 'premium' version with a lot of painted details, I think it would sell really well to collectors.
As for being 'G1 accurate' that's just a sleazy cop-out to leave most of the figure unpainted. Nostalgia wasn't stopping them from painting additional vents or pipes in silver or black. There's nothing keeping them from applying a little more paint to, say, the hydralics on Scrapper's lower legs, or Devs' thighs. Few G1 fans would decry it for 'not being G1 accurate' if they applied those, or others.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 1st, 2015 @ 9:05pm CDT
At the very least, the Takara one has more paint apps than the Hasbro retail one.Hellscream9999 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:I'm guessing it will very well received. From the comments I've read, every person who even considers displaying them separately are waiting to see what the price will be.
Personally I would be willing to pay an additional $50 for a PREMIUM paint job, just see TT's Devastator just dripping in painted details, like a Behr store just sneezed on it
Not to dissapoint but he wont be. The SDCC version still has the most paint apps, TT is just trying to be as G1 as possible. There are better paint apps sure, but he isn't drenching in them:
I know what he will look like; I was actually hearkening back to the first movie and the "premium" sub-line where everyone got a spiffy new or better paint job. It wouldn't sell well if the general retail version was $200+ just for paint apps, but if they released a pseudo-masterpiece version or a 'premium' version with a lot of painted details, I think it would sell really well to collectors.
As for being 'G1 accurate' that's just a sleazy cop-out to leave most of the figure unpainted. Nostalgia wasn't stopping them from painting additional vents or pipes in silver or black. There's nothing keeping them from applying a little more paint to, say, the hydralics on Scrapper's lower legs, or Devs' thighs. Few G1 fans would decry it for 'not being G1 accurate' if they applied those, or others.
Posted by happylock on July 1st, 2015 @ 9:09pm CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 1st, 2015 @ 9:13pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:At the very least, the Takara one has more paint apps than the Hasbro retail one.Hellscream9999 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:I'm guessing it will very well received. From the comments I've read, every person who even considers displaying them separately are waiting to see what the price will be.
Personally I would be willing to pay an additional $50 for a PREMIUM paint job, just see TT's Devastator just dripping in painted details, like a Behr store just sneezed on it
Not to dissapoint but he wont be. The SDCC version still has the most paint apps, TT is just trying to be as G1 as possible. There are better paint apps sure, but he isn't drenching in them:
I know what he will look like; I was actually hearkening back to the first movie and the "premium" sub-line where everyone got a spiffy new or better paint job. It wouldn't sell well if the general retail version was $200+ just for paint apps, but if they released a pseudo-masterpiece version or a 'premium' version with a lot of painted details, I think it would sell really well to collectors.
As for being 'G1 accurate' that's just a sleazy cop-out to leave most of the figure unpainted. Nostalgia wasn't stopping them from painting additional vents or pipes in silver or black. There's nothing keeping them from applying a little more paint to, say, the hydralics on Scrapper's lower legs, or Devs' thighs. Few G1 fans would decry it for 'not being G1 accurate' if they applied those, or others.
That's not saying much; and despite going for "G1 accuracy" they missed all the decals on longhauls legs
So, yeah, not necessarily G1 accurate after all.
Posted by Cobotron on July 1st, 2015 @ 9:35pm CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 1st, 2015 @ 9:45pm CDT
Cobotron wrote:With Devastator, I don't even know what "G1 accurate" is. Sabrblade has put up like 400 screen grabs, and he's different in each one!
Gee, that couldn't possibly be why it's completely ludicrous to try to do so, could it
Posted by Sabrblade on July 1st, 2015 @ 9:45pm CDT
Well, I s'pose we could go to the source:Cobotron wrote:With Devastator, I don't even know what "G1 accurate" is. Sabrblade has put up like 400 screen grabs, and he's different in each one!
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 1st, 2015 @ 9:47pm CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on July 1st, 2015 @ 10:12pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:God, the arts as bad as the one's on my deck of cards
Done on the cheap thanks to Sunbow. But back then, it was like a masterpiece
Posted by durroth on July 1st, 2015 @ 10:49pm CDT
then Takara showed their version and I looked at SDCC Devy again and was like "Mediocre!"
Posted by Sowndwave76 on July 1st, 2015 @ 11:01pm CDT
I don't need any "shiny" parts on my figures... Most of the time I don't mind them, but it depends on the application.
With SDCC Devastator, I think it almost clashes with the rest of the figure, specifically the other reg. purple areas.
The way light reflects off it creates a much lighter color...
It reminds me of the red-violet (I'm calling it "raspberry") on Hasbro's Dragstrip.
Even with additional paint apps, between this shiny issue, and the lack of gray/silver on the forehead,
I would never say the SDCC version is better than Hasbro's.
And IF TT's version is better, it's not by much.
Yeah, I'd like a set of guns for the individual bots, but even if that never happens,
I won't regret sticking with the Hasbro version.
I absolutely love the look of Hook and Scrapper enough... I don't need them to be holding a gun to enjoy them!!!
Posted by Ultra Markus on July 1st, 2015 @ 11:20pm CDT
Emerje wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Emerje wrote:The Hasbro version is a little shaky backwards since they didn't paint the details aside from the black windows and stacks, but the Takara Tomy version should look pretty good backwards with all the truck details painted in.
Eh... those aren't windows. Those are the vents for the engine that rotates the drum. It's not a second cab.
Takara Tomy is definitely treating it like a second cab.
They even painted the bar between the windows to look like Mixmaster's single cab window.
Emerje
the extra detail on the foot to make it look like a cab is enough on its own to make me prefer this version over the others, the added elbows on the smaller guys that needed them and the little black weapons for each constucticon is an added bonus
Posted by Sabrblade on July 1st, 2015 @ 11:44pm CDT
- More show-accurate deco for both Devastator and the Constructicons
- A brand new headsculpt that contains a retractable visor to switch between both head designs
- Brand new gun weapons for each individual figure, all of which can store on Devastator's back
- Re-engineered arms for Scrapper to give him elbows
- Re-engineered arms for Long Haul to give him proper elbows
- Re-engineered arms for Hook to give him better (and double-jointed) elbows
- Re-engineered arms for Mixmaster to give him better (and double-jointed) elbows
- Re-engineered legs for Scavenger to give him better knees
- Re-engineered legs for Bonecrusher to give him better knees
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 2nd, 2015 @ 12:11am CDT
Sowndwave76 wrote:My two cents:
I don't need any "shiny" parts on my figures... Most of the time I don't mind them, but it depends on the application.
With SDCC Devastator, I think it almost clashes with the rest of the figure, specifically the other reg. purple areas.
The way light reflects off it creates a much lighter color...
It reminds me of the red-violet (I'm calling it "raspberry") on Hasbro's Dragstrip.
Even with additional paint apps, between this shiny issue, and the lack of gray/silver on the forehead,
I would never say the SDCC version is better than Hasbro's.
And IF TT's version is better, it's not by much.
Yeah, I'd like a set of guns for the individual bots, but even if that never happens,
I won't regret sticking with the Hasbro version.
I absolutely love the look of Hook and Scrapper enough... I don't need them to be holding a gun to enjoy them!!!
I do not think I will regret the Hasbro version either man.