Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology'
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An MTV Movies exclusive interview with Hasbro CEO Brian Goldner sheds some light on the possible background of Transfomers 3.
There are more goodies over at MTV Movies Blog, as you can check out the entire interview there.
Keep it tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest Transformers news on the net!
"You’re going to see that great core mythology brought to the fore, and Michael is hard at work at making this a reality and we’re very excited about it,"
"What we’re really doing is getting back to some of the core character development and storytelling. And I think there’s some elements of the core story that the filmmakers, Michael in particular wanted to tell,"
There are more goodies over at MTV Movies Blog, as you can check out the entire interview there.
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Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1050904)
Posted by alanburk on March 1st, 2010 @ 3:56pm CST
Posted by alanburk on March 1st, 2010 @ 3:56pm CST
I'm excited about this. Yeah, ROTF had maybe too many characters, but I like the idea of flashbacks. I just hope he gets this one out of the gutter and knocks it out of the park.
Yours truly,
Forever Optimistic
Yours truly,
Forever Optimistic
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1050910)
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on March 1st, 2010 @ 4:25pm CST
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on March 1st, 2010 @ 4:25pm CST
What would 'core mythology' refer to here?
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1050913)
Posted by ConBotFormer on March 1st, 2010 @ 4:40pm CST
Posted by ConBotFormer on March 1st, 2010 @ 4:40pm CST
All I can say is, they better make this movie good. And it's sad that it's taking 3 moives to, maybe getting right.
And ROTF really wasn't overpopulated. Bay just didn't give enough screen time to the TransFormers. It was all about jokes...that aren't funny. But if Hasbro really is having a say in this movie, then maybe we'll see if TF3 will be good. But really, ROTF could have been much better if it was a TransFormers movie.
I'm a writer so yes, I know you need humans in the film, I agree. But if it's called TransFormers, you need it to be more about TransFormers. And not having scenes that go nowhere. You see, since the TransFormers are already very much like humans, they talk, show emtion, plan, fight, etc... You can get away with a movie like TransFormers with out too many human scenes.
And ROTF really wasn't overpopulated. Bay just didn't give enough screen time to the TransFormers. It was all about jokes...that aren't funny. But if Hasbro really is having a say in this movie, then maybe we'll see if TF3 will be good. But really, ROTF could have been much better if it was a TransFormers movie.
I'm a writer so yes, I know you need humans in the film, I agree. But if it's called TransFormers, you need it to be more about TransFormers. And not having scenes that go nowhere. You see, since the TransFormers are already very much like humans, they talk, show emtion, plan, fight, etc... You can get away with a movie like TransFormers with out too many human scenes.
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1050925)
Posted by SlyTF1 on March 1st, 2010 @ 5:06pm CST
Posted by SlyTF1 on March 1st, 2010 @ 5:06pm CST
This is great! And Im hoping that Transformers 3 will be considered one of the great movies of the decade, like I hoped the first 2 would. When I first saw ROTF I said to myself "there is no way any one can complain about this movie!" But when I got home and checked the reviews, I was pissed. But I do have to admit, I see where some of these people are coming from, but the good just out weighs the bad in ROTF for me. So, I hope that Transformers 3 will appeal to the critics and the general "know it all" movie goers.
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1050933)
Posted by Hard Hacker on March 1st, 2010 @ 5:37pm CST
Posted by Hard Hacker on March 1st, 2010 @ 5:37pm CST
Just so long as the elements of the core mythology actually encompasses the entire mythos as it claims, I'm happy.
I'd be very happy to see more diverse homages. Rampantly homaging G1 gets old for this RiD/UT fan.
So that might stipulate Mini-cons and Haiku.
I'd be very happy to see more diverse homages. Rampantly homaging G1 gets old for this RiD/UT fan.
So that might stipulate Mini-cons and Haiku.
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1050935)
Posted by zenosaurus_x on March 1st, 2010 @ 6:02pm CST
Posted by zenosaurus_x on March 1st, 2010 @ 6:02pm CST
I hope this is true, part 1 was good but part 2 was lacking, hopefully 3 will be good enough to fill the lack and be even better than part one(and I LOVED part one).
But the overuse of the word "core" seems a bit.....disturbing, seems like they are just using it to make it sound "deep."
But the overuse of the word "core" seems a bit.....disturbing, seems like they are just using it to make it sound "deep."
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1050938)
Posted by Mechabreaker on March 1st, 2010 @ 6:13pm CST
Lies.
More lies.
Posted by Mechabreaker on March 1st, 2010 @ 6:13pm CST
"You’re going to see that great core mythology brought to the fore, and Michael is hard at work at making this a reality and we’re very excited about it,"
Lies.
"What we’re really doing is getting back to some of the core character development and storytelling. And I think there’s some elements of the core story that the filmmakers, Michael in particular wanted to tell,"
More lies.
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1050948)
Posted by PhunkJunkion on March 1st, 2010 @ 6:34pm CST
My thoughts exactly. The core mythology of the Transformers brand or the core mythology as created by the movieverse? It's really hard to determine much from these statements.
Posted by PhunkJunkion on March 1st, 2010 @ 6:34pm CST
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:What would 'core mythology' refer to here?
My thoughts exactly. The core mythology of the Transformers brand or the core mythology as created by the movieverse? It's really hard to determine much from these statements.
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1050955)
Posted by Solrac333 on March 1st, 2010 @ 7:11pm CST
Posted by Solrac333 on March 1st, 2010 @ 7:11pm CST
ROTF was just awesome. If this one is better it's because it's without those two canon destroying writers. I am glad they are gone.
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1050960)
Posted by SlyTF1 on March 1st, 2010 @ 7:24pm CST
I agree 100% Even though I loved ROTF, I hated those writers to ass!
Posted by SlyTF1 on March 1st, 2010 @ 7:24pm CST
omega666 wrote:ROTF was just awesome. If this one is better it's because it's without those two canon destroying writers. I am glad they are gone.
I agree 100% Even though I loved ROTF, I hated those writers to ass!
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1050967)
Posted by icenemesis on March 1st, 2010 @ 7:49pm CST
Thank God that there is someone out there that agrees with me. Yeah there were to many bad joke (one of them being wheelie) and to much human stuff, but it was NOT a bad movie.
Posted by icenemesis on March 1st, 2010 @ 7:49pm CST
SlyTF1 wrote: When I first saw ROTF I said to myself "there is no way any one can complain about this movie!" But when I got home and checked the reviews, I was pissed. But I do have to admit, I see where some of these people are coming from, but the good just out weighs the bad in ROTF for me.
Thank God that there is someone out there that agrees with me. Yeah there were to many bad joke (one of them being wheelie) and to much human stuff, but it was NOT a bad movie.
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1050971)
Posted by SlyTF1 on March 1st, 2010 @ 8:06pm CST
Yeah, I didnt mind the jokes, I actually liked them. I liked the Twins. Wheelie, got on my nerves with the whole humping leg thing and shouting "bitch" every second when he was first introduced, but the only thing that got me mad in ROTF was Simmon's ass and the dogs f*king eachother, other than those 2 one second scenes, I loved ROTF. Its in a 3 way tie with my favorite movie of all time.
Posted by SlyTF1 on March 1st, 2010 @ 8:06pm CST
icenemesis wrote:SlyTF1 wrote: When I first saw ROTF I said to myself "there is no way any one can complain about this movie!" But when I got home and checked the reviews, I was pissed. But I do have to admit, I see where some of these people are coming from, but the good just out weighs the bad in ROTF for me.
Thank God that there is someone out there that agrees with me. Yeah there were to many bad joke (one of them being wheelie) and to much human stuff, but it was NOT a bad movie.
Yeah, I didnt mind the jokes, I actually liked them. I liked the Twins. Wheelie, got on my nerves with the whole humping leg thing and shouting "bitch" every second when he was first introduced, but the only thing that got me mad in ROTF was Simmon's ass and the dogs f*king eachother, other than those 2 one second scenes, I loved ROTF. Its in a 3 way tie with my favorite movie of all time.
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1051005)
Posted by Serpent O - R on March 1st, 2010 @ 9:54pm CST
Posted by Serpent O - R on March 1st, 2010 @ 9:54pm CST
Hmmm, Core Mythology, huh?
Whatever that means to them is one thing we will never really know. But, I do know what it isn't. It isn't ROTF. If it was, they wouldn't need to go back to it, would they?
Now, I'm not a fancy, high-class hollywood executive or anything like that, but isn't this something they should have addressed in, I don't know, THE FIRST 5 HOURS OF FEATURE FILM?
Granted, I watch the hell out of both movies... thanks to rifftrax. I wish I could watch them because they were good movies and not because they are easy to laugh at... At, not with.
After dozens of viewings of both, I can say with a clear conscious that I have absolutely no idea what any of the characters motivations are, nor why they interact with each other the way they do. I've been a human my whole life and can't understand the social gymnastics performed on screen by the humans in these films.
Transformers 3: Death of an Intellectual Property will follow the same pattern as the first two films, regardless of any nonsense spewed before hand by its financiers. Isn't this nearly the same thing they said before ROTF came out?
If anything, Bay should just keep doing the same crap he has done this far and keep any established cannon from the cartoons and comics out of it.
To paraphrase the ROTF Rifftrax at the moment of primes death:
Mike: Wow, his death had more emotional resonance in the animated version.
Bill: That's not a sentence you hear very often.
Whatever that means to them is one thing we will never really know. But, I do know what it isn't. It isn't ROTF. If it was, they wouldn't need to go back to it, would they?
Now, I'm not a fancy, high-class hollywood executive or anything like that, but isn't this something they should have addressed in, I don't know, THE FIRST 5 HOURS OF FEATURE FILM?
Granted, I watch the hell out of both movies... thanks to rifftrax. I wish I could watch them because they were good movies and not because they are easy to laugh at... At, not with.
After dozens of viewings of both, I can say with a clear conscious that I have absolutely no idea what any of the characters motivations are, nor why they interact with each other the way they do. I've been a human my whole life and can't understand the social gymnastics performed on screen by the humans in these films.
Transformers 3: Death of an Intellectual Property will follow the same pattern as the first two films, regardless of any nonsense spewed before hand by its financiers. Isn't this nearly the same thing they said before ROTF came out?
If anything, Bay should just keep doing the same crap he has done this far and keep any established cannon from the cartoons and comics out of it.
To paraphrase the ROTF Rifftrax at the moment of primes death:
Mike: Wow, his death had more emotional resonance in the animated version.
Bill: That's not a sentence you hear very often.
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1051014)
Posted by Megatronsdemise666 on March 1st, 2010 @ 10:51pm CST
Posted by Megatronsdemise666 on March 1st, 2010 @ 10:51pm CST
honostly i thought rotf was ok but
it had major falws with the characters
i mean megatron would not bow down to anyone an why the fallen?
and was prime able to beat the crap out of megatron, starscream and grindor?
that just didnt make sense to me cause the first movie megatron and starscream seemed to be way better fighters then prime
but i hope they do focus more on the cybertronians on this movie
and i hope they make the decepticons win cause it would get boring if the autobots win again
it had major falws with the characters
i mean megatron would not bow down to anyone an why the fallen?
and was prime able to beat the crap out of megatron, starscream and grindor?
that just didnt make sense to me cause the first movie megatron and starscream seemed to be way better fighters then prime
but i hope they do focus more on the cybertronians on this movie
and i hope they make the decepticons win cause it would get boring if the autobots win again
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1051044)
Posted by Megatron Wolf on March 2nd, 2010 @ 1:36am CST
Posted by Megatron Wolf on March 2nd, 2010 @ 1:36am CST
core mythos of the entire TF universe or just the crappy movie universe?
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1051068)
Posted by Emperor Primacron the 1st on March 2nd, 2010 @ 3:22am CST
Posted by Emperor Primacron the 1st on March 2nd, 2010 @ 3:22am CST
Bay movies and character development are things one does not often see mixed together. Also, I hope we do see more TRANSFORMERS and lesser humans....we don't need the first half of Armada retold. 
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1051099)
Posted by Requiem Prime on March 2nd, 2010 @ 6:56am CST
Posted by Requiem Prime on March 2nd, 2010 @ 6:56am CST
Poor Man... deluding himself like that.
What happened to Bay saying he's learned not to listen to fans.
You're already two movies in. It's too late to try to prod Bay to be better. Just let him run the movieverse (deeper) into the ground and we can move on with new franchises.
What happened to Bay saying he's learned not to listen to fans.
You're already two movies in. It's too late to try to prod Bay to be better. Just let him run the movieverse (deeper) into the ground and we can move on with new franchises.
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1051119)
Posted by Black Bumblebee on March 2nd, 2010 @ 8:14am CST
Posted by Black Bumblebee on March 2nd, 2010 @ 8:14am CST
Wow, the people whose finances depend on people going to see the movie say it'll be good... that means, I should like totally believe them. 
Michael Bay doesn't care about this stuff. All he cares about is making lots of money by catering to the lowest common denominator. He doesn't understand the characters at all, and thinks that as long as you have explosions, wavy camera angles, and the sort of sexual humor that middle school students think up, then people will watch his movie.
The sad thing is--the sales receipts show that he was right.
Michael Bay doesn't care about this stuff. All he cares about is making lots of money by catering to the lowest common denominator. He doesn't understand the characters at all, and thinks that as long as you have explosions, wavy camera angles, and the sort of sexual humor that middle school students think up, then people will watch his movie.
The sad thing is--the sales receipts show that he was right.
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1051132)
Posted by SlyTF1 on March 2nd, 2010 @ 9:50am CST
So, Michael Bay IS smart...just not in the way you think as smart.
Posted by SlyTF1 on March 2nd, 2010 @ 9:50am CST
Black Bumblebee wrote:Wow, the people whose finances depend on people going to see the movie say it'll be good... that means, I should like totally believe them.
Michael Bay doesn't care about this stuff. All he cares about is making lots of money by catering to the lowest common denominator. He doesn't understand the characters at all, and thinks that as long as you have explosions, wavy camera angles, and the sort of sexual humor that middle school students think up, then people will watch his movie.
The sad thing is--the sales receipts show that he was right.
So, Michael Bay IS smart...just not in the way you think as smart.
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1051154)
Posted by Gasket on March 2nd, 2010 @ 11:43am CST
Posted by Gasket on March 2nd, 2010 @ 11:43am CST
Hi, I'm new to the forum. So here's my virgin post.
I loved the first two movies, but honestly I was bugged by all the gimmicks in ROTF. There was so much G1 referencing going on even I got lost in alle the matrixes, solar harvester, original TF's and whatnot... I'd like to see where Bay is going with this.
I'm not counting on depth storywise. I don't like Transformers for it's depth.
I loved the first two movies, but honestly I was bugged by all the gimmicks in ROTF. There was so much G1 referencing going on even I got lost in alle the matrixes, solar harvester, original TF's and whatnot... I'd like to see where Bay is going with this.
I'm not counting on depth storywise. I don't like Transformers for it's depth.
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1051176)
Posted by Mechabreaker on March 2nd, 2010 @ 12:58pm CST
Welcome to the boards, and warning:Seibertron may contain nuts!
Posted by Mechabreaker on March 2nd, 2010 @ 12:58pm CST
Gasket wrote:Hi, I'm new to the forum. So here's my virgin post.
I loved the first two movies, but honestly I was bugged by all the gimmicks in ROTF. There was so much G1 referencing going on even I got lost in alle the matrixes, solar harvester, original TF's and whatnot... I'd like to see where Bay is going with this.
I'm not counting on depth storywise. I don't like Transformers for it's depth.
Welcome to the boards, and warning:Seibertron may contain nuts!
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1051178)
Posted by Serpent O - R on March 2nd, 2010 @ 1:08pm CST
Yes, I will give you that he is smart...
In the same way that lowering required test scores for diploma's and degree's makes people on a whole smarter...
Posted by Serpent O - R on March 2nd, 2010 @ 1:08pm CST
SlyTF1 wrote:So, Michael Bay IS smart...just not in the way you think as smart.
Yes, I will give you that he is smart...
In the same way that lowering required test scores for diploma's and degree's makes people on a whole smarter...
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1051183)
Posted by Windsweeper on March 2nd, 2010 @ 1:54pm CST
Posted by Windsweeper on March 2nd, 2010 @ 1:54pm CST
Just keep Leo out of it AND bring back Anthony Anderson.
Also, lets focus on the cool bots this time - Ratchet, Sideswipe, Jolt and Arcee.
No more crap head designs like the Twins.
Mainly though, just get rid of Leo!!!!
Also, lets focus on the cool bots this time - Ratchet, Sideswipe, Jolt and Arcee.
No more crap head designs like the Twins.
Mainly though, just get rid of Leo!!!!
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1051185)
Posted by SlyTF1 on March 2nd, 2010 @ 2:10pm CST
The general audience does love stupidity. Even though I dont think ROTF was stupid at all. How else do you think that vid about that lady sitting on a toilet got so many views?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYW6C44zo24
Posted by SlyTF1 on March 2nd, 2010 @ 2:10pm CST
Serpent O - R wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:So, Michael Bay IS smart...just not in the way you think as smart.
Yes, I will give you that he is smart...
In the same way that lowering required test scores for diploma's and degree's makes people on a whole smarter...
The general audience does love stupidity. Even though I dont think ROTF was stupid at all. How else do you think that vid about that lady sitting on a toilet got so many views?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYW6C44zo24
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1051289)
Posted by Mechabreaker on March 2nd, 2010 @ 7:46pm CST
I second this. I especially support writing the twins and Leo out of the third movie, mainly the twins, just give some off-hand explanation saying that they got killed or something, just leave them out and I will be very happy!
Posted by Mechabreaker on March 2nd, 2010 @ 7:46pm CST
Windsweeper wrote:Just keep Leo out of it AND bring back Anthony Anderson.
Also, lets focus on the cool bots this time - Ratchet, Sideswipe, Jolt and Arcee.
No more crap head designs like the Twins.
Mainly though, just get rid of Leo!!!!
I second this. I especially support writing the twins and Leo out of the third movie, mainly the twins, just give some off-hand explanation saying that they got killed or something, just leave them out and I will be very happy!
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1051418)
Posted by SEXFIGHTER on March 3rd, 2010 @ 8:41am CST
Posted by SEXFIGHTER on March 3rd, 2010 @ 8:41am CST
They need to get rid of that pile of crap Michael tv commercial Bay. Honestly, I sat in the cinema watching ROTF and i felt like getting up and leaving. Batman and Robin made good box office but Joel Schumacher was not invited back due to crapness of the film he delivered, same should happen to Bay, the man is AWFUL and ROTF was just.....UUURRRGH. Get Furman on board for the script and get a director who really IS a fan, not doin it just for the cash.Look at the designs for the cons, yeah, big fans worked on those I must say. Ravage was bout the only Con done right, Soundwave maybe also. Core mythology = apolology for ROTF....AND THEY WONT STICK TO IT.
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Posted by SEXFIGHTER on March 3rd, 2010 @ 8:44am CST
Posted by SEXFIGHTER on March 3rd, 2010 @ 8:44am CST
Oh and those awful twins.... wasnt funny Bay, you gettin to do the 3rd film is hysterical though.
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1051439)
Posted by Blurrz on March 3rd, 2010 @ 9:43am CST
You're 6 months late to the party. We've heard the whining before. Now it's all about making amends and a better third movie. Bay's done good movies before. If you haven't heard of them I'll be sure to bring some cheese for the whine.
Posted by Blurrz on March 3rd, 2010 @ 9:43am CST
SEXFIGHTER wrote:They need to get rid of that pile of crap Michael tv commercial Bay. Honestly, I sat in the cinema watching ROTF and i felt like getting up and leaving. Batman and Robin made good box office but Joel Schumacher was not invited back due to crapness of the film he delivered, same should happen to Bay, the man is AWFUL and ROTF was just.....UUURRRGH. Get Furman on board for the script and get a director who really IS a fan, not doin it just for the cash.Look at the designs for the cons, yeah, big fans worked on those I must say. Ravage was bout the only Con done right, Soundwave maybe also. Core mythology = apolology for ROTF....AND THEY WONT STICK TO IT.
You're 6 months late to the party. We've heard the whining before. Now it's all about making amends and a better third movie. Bay's done good movies before. If you haven't heard of them I'll be sure to bring some cheese for the whine.
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1051451)
Posted by SEXFIGHTER on March 3rd, 2010 @ 10:25am CST
Posted by SEXFIGHTER on March 3rd, 2010 @ 10:25am CST
No he hasn't, and i clearly referenced 'core mythology'. Hes the least creative director out there, time Hasbro gave someone else a shot for Transformers 3 before Bay kills this franchise with another joke and inuendo ridden pile of tosh. Film maker...ha
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1051495)
Posted by Blurrz on March 3rd, 2010 @ 2:07pm CST
Posted by Blurrz on March 3rd, 2010 @ 2:07pm CST
You do realize that Michael Bay had nothing to do with those characters? It was Kurtzman and Orci that had a lot to play in it. The movies haven't killed anything. They've revitalized a franchise that was becoming unpopular.
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Posted by SlyTF1 on March 3rd, 2010 @ 4:05pm CST
Posted by SlyTF1 on March 3rd, 2010 @ 4:05pm CST
I was just watching an episode of Cybertron and just thought..."What if Michael Bay decides to put Primus in this movie, and decides to give him moon balls..." i know this is sort of random, but I just needed to say it.
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Posted by SEXFIGHTER on March 3rd, 2010 @ 5:17pm CST
Posted by SEXFIGHTER on March 3rd, 2010 @ 5:17pm CST
Come on, its his name on the whole mess, we all know none of those pathetic anti-transformer designs would be approved without his talentless say so...if you love transformers, you'll wanna get rid of him.
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1051565)
Posted by Blurrz on March 3rd, 2010 @ 5:21pm CST
My enjoyment of Transformers has nothing to do with whether or not I like Michael Bay. The success of the movies has contributed to Transformers unlike anything else since it's existence. Whether TF3 is badly rated or not, it doesn't matter because it will rack up the big money, much like ROTF did.
In terms of this movie, we've got a fresh start. Go ahead and try to bring down the ship, but Michael Bay will still be the one filming this movie, and whether you like it or not is your opinion.
Posted by Blurrz on March 3rd, 2010 @ 5:21pm CST
SEXFIGHTER wrote:Come on, its his name on the whole mess, we all know none of those pathetic anti-transformer designs would be approved without his talentless say so...if you love transformers, you'll wanna get rid of him.
My enjoyment of Transformers has nothing to do with whether or not I like Michael Bay. The success of the movies has contributed to Transformers unlike anything else since it's existence. Whether TF3 is badly rated or not, it doesn't matter because it will rack up the big money, much like ROTF did.
In terms of this movie, we've got a fresh start. Go ahead and try to bring down the ship, but Michael Bay will still be the one filming this movie, and whether you like it or not is your opinion.
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Posted by Mechabreaker on March 3rd, 2010 @ 6:46pm CST
Heh... moon balls... Seriously, Devastator's "constructicles were not funny in ROTF, I hope he doesn't do anything like that in the third film.
P.S. SlyTF1 I laughed for 10 minutes straight at your signature, especially the "Grammy" bit!
Posted by Mechabreaker on March 3rd, 2010 @ 6:46pm CST
SlyTF1 wrote:I was just watching an episode of Cybertron and just thought..."What if Michael Bay decides to put Primus in this movie, and decides to give him moon balls..." i know this is sort of random, but I just needed to say it.
Heh... moon balls... Seriously, Devastator's "constructicles were not funny in ROTF, I hope he doesn't do anything like that in the third film.
P.S. SlyTF1 I laughed for 10 minutes straight at your signature, especially the "Grammy" bit!
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1051605)
Posted by SlyTF1 on March 3rd, 2010 @ 7:41pm CST
I didnt mind the joke that much, I mean I sort of chuckeled a little bit, but It didnt bother me. And was my sig that funny? I guess so. I just quoted some guy off Youtube that I agreed with.
Posted by SlyTF1 on March 3rd, 2010 @ 7:41pm CST
Mechabreaker wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:I was just watching an episode of Cybertron and just thought..."What if Michael Bay decides to put Primus in this movie, and decides to give him moon balls..." i know this is sort of random, but I just needed to say it.
Heh... moon balls... Seriously, Devastator's "constructicles were not funny in ROTF, I hope he doesn't do anything like that in the third film.
P.S. SlyTF1 I laughed for 10 minutes straight at your signature, especially the "Grammy" bit!
I didnt mind the joke that much, I mean I sort of chuckeled a little bit, but It didnt bother me. And was my sig that funny? I guess so. I just quoted some guy off Youtube that I agreed with.
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1051661)
Posted by SEXFIGHTER on March 4th, 2010 @ 3:47am CST
Posted by SEXFIGHTER on March 4th, 2010 @ 3:47am CST
Hes not a fan, he 'hates' the dinobots and any slick MTV wannabe could puke out what he delivers. If hes stayin on board, and he probably will, I have a few suggestions.... 1.Start to humanise the faces of the bots, this isnt Alien and Bay certainly aint Giger
2.Get rid of the self indulgent design team completely, lets get the bots overall look more G1
3. Get rid of Sams idotic family and girlfriend, lets tell a Transformer story, with a single human perspective.
4.Unicron please.
5.Tell the Shockwave/Dinobot awakening story as a prologue, even throw some Beast wars nods in.
6. Im sure theres more i wanted to put...
2.Get rid of the self indulgent design team completely, lets get the bots overall look more G1
3. Get rid of Sams idotic family and girlfriend, lets tell a Transformer story, with a single human perspective.
4.Unicron please.
5.Tell the Shockwave/Dinobot awakening story as a prologue, even throw some Beast wars nods in.
6. Im sure theres more i wanted to put...
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1051676)
Posted by Burn on March 4th, 2010 @ 5:22am CST
I'm a fan (been so since the 80's) and I hate the dinobots. Your point?
I don't like the faces, but I can see where they're coming from. They're aliens, they're not meant to look humanised.
As much as I loved G1, they're not realistic looking. Oh and btw, this is the 21st century, time for updating!
eh, it could probably work.
Or we could NOT re-has the 80's animated movie and *gasp* DO SOMETHING ORIGINAL! (Which is likely to happen now that Hollywood's Un-Original Two-Some aren't onboard)
See, again with the lack of originality here.
Posted by Burn on March 4th, 2010 @ 5:22am CST
SEXFIGHTER wrote:Hes not a fan, he 'hates' the dinobots
I'm a fan (been so since the 80's) and I hate the dinobots. Your point?
1.Start to humanise the faces of the bots, this isnt Alien and Bay certainly aint Giger
I don't like the faces, but I can see where they're coming from. They're aliens, they're not meant to look humanised.
2.Get rid of the self indulgent design team completely, lets get the bots overall look more G1
As much as I loved G1, they're not realistic looking. Oh and btw, this is the 21st century, time for updating!
3. Get rid of Sams idotic family and girlfriend, lets tell a Transformer story, with a single human perspective.
eh, it could probably work.
4.Unicron please.
Or we could NOT re-has the 80's animated movie and *gasp* DO SOMETHING ORIGINAL! (Which is likely to happen now that Hollywood's Un-Original Two-Some aren't onboard)
5.Tell the Shockwave/Dinobot awakening story as a prologue, even throw some Beast wars nods in.
See, again with the lack of originality here.
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1051692)
Posted by SlyTF1 on March 4th, 2010 @ 6:42am CST
Bullshit! I agree with everything after #2 except for the dinobots, but the first 2 are pure unadulturated bullshit. This is NOT G1, its not a G1 movie, we got that 20 somthin years ago. This will never be G1. the robots are freking aliens! They are not supposed to have human faces. Again, G1 is gone, there is no bringing it back, unless they decide to re air it. But other than that, nothing will be G1, nothing is G1, it is a whole new ORIGINAL universe of Transformers, not trying to steal every single G1 reference there is and have people whine about that being "unoriginal"
Posted by SlyTF1 on March 4th, 2010 @ 6:42am CST
SEXFIGHTER wrote:Hes not a fan, he 'hates' the dinobots and any slick MTV wannabe could puke out what he delivers. If hes stayin on board, and he probably will, I have a few suggestions.... 1.Start to humanise the faces of the bots, this isnt Alien and Bay certainly aint Giger
2.Get rid of the self indulgent design team completely, lets get the bots overall look more G1
3. Get rid of Sams idotic family and girlfriend, lets tell a Transformer story, with a single human perspective.
4.Unicron please.
5.Tell the Shockwave/Dinobot awakening story as a prologue, even throw some Beast wars nods in.
6. Im sure theres more i wanted to put...
Bullshit! I agree with everything after #2 except for the dinobots, but the first 2 are pure unadulturated bullshit. This is NOT G1, its not a G1 movie, we got that 20 somthin years ago. This will never be G1. the robots are freking aliens! They are not supposed to have human faces. Again, G1 is gone, there is no bringing it back, unless they decide to re air it. But other than that, nothing will be G1, nothing is G1, it is a whole new ORIGINAL universe of Transformers, not trying to steal every single G1 reference there is and have people whine about that being "unoriginal"
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1051777)
Posted by SEXFIGHTER on March 4th, 2010 @ 11:54am CST
Posted by SEXFIGHTER on March 4th, 2010 @ 11:54am CST
1.Point is you're in a minority.
I don't like the faces, but I can see where they're coming from. They're aliens, they're not meant to look humanised.
Thats true, but if they can change into cars etc, they could alter their own faces easily.
As much as I loved G1, they're not realistic looking. Oh and btw, this is the 21st century, time for updating!
Says you. I dont mean using the G1 blueprint too rigidly, but reflect it the same way the Alternators line did, they looked great. The G1 designs were iconic, like Spidermans costume or mickey mouse.
eh, it could probably work.
Agreed.
Or we could NOT re-has the 80's animated movie and *gasp* DO SOMETHING ORIGINAL! (Which is likely to happen now that Hollywood's Un-Original Two-Some aren't onboard)
Its a MASSIVE part of the mythology, Sam in dicking around in highschool isnt. If you like that, theres always Highschool musical 1, 2, 3 etc.
See, again with the lack of originality here.[/quote]
Transformers in highschool the musical anyone?
1.Start to humanise the faces of the bots, this isnt Alien and Bay certainly aint Giger
I don't like the faces, but I can see where they're coming from. They're aliens, they're not meant to look humanised.
Thats true, but if they can change into cars etc, they could alter their own faces easily.
2.Get rid of the self indulgent design team completely, lets get the bots overall look more G1
As much as I loved G1, they're not realistic looking. Oh and btw, this is the 21st century, time for updating!
Says you. I dont mean using the G1 blueprint too rigidly, but reflect it the same way the Alternators line did, they looked great. The G1 designs were iconic, like Spidermans costume or mickey mouse.
3. Get rid of Sams idotic family and girlfriend, lets tell a Transformer story, with a single human perspective.
eh, it could probably work.
Agreed.
4.Unicron please.
Or we could NOT re-has the 80's animated movie and *gasp* DO SOMETHING ORIGINAL! (Which is likely to happen now that Hollywood's Un-Original Two-Some aren't onboard)
Its a MASSIVE part of the mythology, Sam in dicking around in highschool isnt. If you like that, theres always Highschool musical 1, 2, 3 etc.
5.Tell the Shockwave/Dinobot awakening story as a prologue, even throw some Beast wars nods in.
See, again with the lack of originality here.[/quote]
Transformers in highschool the musical anyone?
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1051829)
Posted by zenosaurus_x on March 4th, 2010 @ 3:13pm CST
Wow....just...wow.
1.NO, they are supposed to be ALIENS, why would they look like us? I loved the old designs but I prefer the new alienistic...(not a word...it should be!) designs.
2.The G1 bots did not look convincing at all, watching a bunch of blocks do the forest fight would've been terrible. Even with the alternators take it just wouldn't look that good...
3.Well....actually you're kinda right here.
4.So...you want it to be the 80's movie? Even if Unicron is important he just doesn't fit with the present movie verse unless it would be in a 4th or 5th movie.
5.I don't see how they'd fit all that well. It'd just confuse viewers more.
I don't know, I just like the movieverse and apparently you don't, if you don't like it then don't watch...easy as that.
Posted by zenosaurus_x on March 4th, 2010 @ 3:13pm CST
SEXFIGHTER wrote:Hes not a fan, he 'hates' the dinobots and any slick MTV wannabe could puke out what he delivers. If hes stayin on board, and he probably will, I have a few suggestions.... 1.Start to humanise the faces of the bots, this isnt Alien and Bay certainly aint Giger
2.Get rid of the self indulgent design team completely, lets get the bots overall look more G1
3. Get rid of Sams idotic family and girlfriend, lets tell a Transformer story, with a single human perspective.
4.Unicron please.
5.Tell the Shockwave/Dinobot awakening story as a prologue, even throw some Beast wars nods in.
6. Im sure theres more i wanted to put...
Wow....just...wow.
1.NO, they are supposed to be ALIENS, why would they look like us? I loved the old designs but I prefer the new alienistic...(not a word...it should be!) designs.
2.The G1 bots did not look convincing at all, watching a bunch of blocks do the forest fight would've been terrible. Even with the alternators take it just wouldn't look that good...
3.Well....actually you're kinda right here.
4.So...you want it to be the 80's movie? Even if Unicron is important he just doesn't fit with the present movie verse unless it would be in a 4th or 5th movie.
5.I don't see how they'd fit all that well. It'd just confuse viewers more.
I don't know, I just like the movieverse and apparently you don't, if you don't like it then don't watch...easy as that.
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1052001)
Posted by Gasket on March 5th, 2010 @ 8:08am CST
Everytime you get worked up, Bay kills a kitten.
Posted by Gasket on March 5th, 2010 @ 8:08am CST
SEXFIGHTER wrote:Hes not a fan, he 'hates' the dinobots and any slick MTV wannabe could puke out what he delivers. If hes stayin on board, and he probably will, I have a few suggestions.... 1.Start to humanise the faces of the bots, this isnt Alien and Bay certainly aint Giger
2.Get rid of the self indulgent design team completely, lets get the bots overall look more G1
3. Get rid of Sams idotic family and girlfriend, lets tell a Transformer story, with a single human perspective.
4.Unicron please.
5.Tell the Shockwave/Dinobot awakening story as a prologue, even throw some Beast wars nods in.
6. Im sure theres more i wanted to put...
Everytime you get worked up, Bay kills a kitten.
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1052055)
Posted by SEXFIGHTER on March 5th, 2010 @ 12:50pm CST
Posted by SEXFIGHTER on March 5th, 2010 @ 12:50pm CST
Im afraid kittens are gonna be a bit scarce in Bays part of the world. Anyway, how can people be saying G1 BASED designs wont work when they haven't seen them put into practice with modern technology? they didn't give it a chance. Bay will make whatever crap he can put together in 5 minutes and we're supposed to lap it up cos it says Transformers on the tin? Whats the matter with you, ROTF was a turkey, crap beyond crap. Optimus and Bumblebee weren't too bad, but Megatron is Megatron, not a metallic Predator, wheres the 'originality' in that?
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1052100)
Posted by Burn on March 5th, 2010 @ 2:47pm CST
Given that both movies amassed so much money at the boxoffice, I think it's safe to say ALL TF fans are in the minority when it comes to the movies.
Not that you actually answered my question.
Or the director wants to show that they are in fact alien and doesn't want them to be humanised.
Iconic yes. But practical? No.
As you said later, no one's seen them used with today's technology. That includes you so how can you say they'll work and that those of us who say they won't are wrong? Face it mate, both sides of the party here have nothing to base their argument on so it's kind of a moot point.
Now this is funny. I love how you completely take my words and twist them into a baseless retort.
In the bigger picture, the scenes of Sam at school are very little compared to the rest of the movie.
As for Unicron being a major part of mythology, maybe so, but I still don't see WHY we need to see a giant transforming planet showing up to eat another planet. There's only so many ways that story can be told.
And is it so bad to want to see something NEW in the mythology? Really?
Lame baseless retorts anyone?
Well he transforms into an alt mode that doesn't require someone else to hold onto him for starters.
He's also a significantly different character from Megatron's original incarnation.
Oh and just because YOU think ROTF was bad doesn't mean you're right. It just means you have your own opinion which I don't necessarily agree with. That doesn't make you right, it doesn't make me right either, it just means we think differently. Nothing wrong with that at all.
Unless someone tries to jam their opinion down my throat because they think theirs is the only opinion that matters. Then we have a problem.
Posted by Burn on March 5th, 2010 @ 2:47pm CST
SEXFIGHTER wrote:1.Point is you're in a minority.
Given that both movies amassed so much money at the boxoffice, I think it's safe to say ALL TF fans are in the minority when it comes to the movies.
Not that you actually answered my question.
Thats true, but if they can change into cars etc, they could alter their own faces easily.
Or the director wants to show that they are in fact alien and doesn't want them to be humanised.
Says you. I dont mean using the G1 blueprint too rigidly, but reflect it the same way the Alternators line did, they looked great. The G1 designs were iconic, like Spidermans costume or mickey mouse.
Iconic yes. But practical? No.
As you said later, no one's seen them used with today's technology. That includes you so how can you say they'll work and that those of us who say they won't are wrong? Face it mate, both sides of the party here have nothing to base their argument on so it's kind of a moot point.
Its a MASSIVE part of the mythology, Sam in dicking around in highschool isnt. If you like that, theres always Highschool musical 1, 2, 3 etc.
Now this is funny. I love how you completely take my words and twist them into a baseless retort.
In the bigger picture, the scenes of Sam at school are very little compared to the rest of the movie.
As for Unicron being a major part of mythology, maybe so, but I still don't see WHY we need to see a giant transforming planet showing up to eat another planet. There's only so many ways that story can be told.
And is it so bad to want to see something NEW in the mythology? Really?
Transformers in highschool the musical anyone?
Lame baseless retorts anyone?
SEXFIGHTER wrote:Im afraid kittens are gonna be a bit scarce in Bays part of the world. Anyway, how can people be saying G1 BASED designs wont work when they haven't seen them put into practice with modern technology? they didn't give it a chance. Bay will make whatever crap he can put together in 5 minutes and we're supposed to lap it up cos it says Transformers on the tin? Whats the matter with you, ROTF was a turkey, crap beyond crap. Optimus and Bumblebee weren't too bad, but Megatron is Megatron, not a metallic Predator, wheres the 'originality' in that?
Well he transforms into an alt mode that doesn't require someone else to hold onto him for starters.
He's also a significantly different character from Megatron's original incarnation.
Oh and just because YOU think ROTF was bad doesn't mean you're right. It just means you have your own opinion which I don't necessarily agree with. That doesn't make you right, it doesn't make me right either, it just means we think differently. Nothing wrong with that at all.
Unless someone tries to jam their opinion down my throat because they think theirs is the only opinion that matters. Then we have a problem.
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1052111)
Posted by SEXFIGHTER on March 5th, 2010 @ 3:40pm CST
Posted by SEXFIGHTER on March 5th, 2010 @ 3:40pm CST
So you say they WONT work because the studio who multibillionaires couldnt be arsed tryin it and Transformers surrenders to the crassness that is ROTF...NOBODY with an intact brainstem found that to be a good movie...cept Transformers number 1 fan...you.
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1052113)
Posted by Burn on March 5th, 2010 @ 3:58pm CST
Please quote me where I said that.
oooookay. So you're saying I don't have an intact brainstem simply because I liked a movie that you didn't?
Your sarcasm is completely childish and un-necessary. You do yourself no favours here. I'm more than willing to have an intelligent discussion with you but you need to come back with something better than childish insults to get your point across.
Posted by Burn on March 5th, 2010 @ 3:58pm CST
SEXFIGHTER wrote:So you say they WONT work because the studio who multibillionaires couldnt be arsed tryin it and Transformers surrenders to the crassness that is ROTF...
Please quote me where I said that.
NOBODY with an intact brainstem found that to be a good movie...cept Transformers number 1 fan...you.
oooookay. So you're saying I don't have an intact brainstem simply because I liked a movie that you didn't?
Your sarcasm is completely childish and un-necessary. You do yourself no favours here. I'm more than willing to have an intelligent discussion with you but you need to come back with something better than childish insults to get your point across.
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1052117)
Posted by Mkall on March 5th, 2010 @ 4:14pm CST
That's getting very close to trolling and baiting. Edit. You know what? it IS trolling and baiting. Check your PMs
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Posted by Mkall on March 5th, 2010 @ 4:14pm CST
SEXFIGHTER wrote:So you say they WONT work because the studio who multibillionaires couldnt be arsed tryin it and Transformers surrenders to the crassness that is ROTF...NOBODY with an intact brainstem found that to be a good movie...cept Transformers number 1 fan...you.
That's getting very close to trolling and baiting. Edit. You know what? it IS trolling and baiting. Check your PMs
Here are our board rules, please familiarize yourself with them.
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1052120)
Posted by SEXFIGHTER on March 5th, 2010 @ 4:31pm CST
Posted by SEXFIGHTER on March 5th, 2010 @ 4:31pm CST
Im saying IIIIFFFF you liked it, thats your agenda, im not interested cobber. Im not baiting here, im being attacked for standing up for RRREEEEAAALLL transformers. For gods sake, i LOVE TRANSFORMERS a LOT more than the average Lady Ga Ga fan....
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1052145)
Posted by zenosaurus_x on March 5th, 2010 @ 6:16pm CST
Posted by zenosaurus_x on March 5th, 2010 @ 6:16pm CST
No...you aren't, you're opinion is NOT everyone's, I happen to really like the movie designs, everyone's tastes are different.
This is so very biased....since when has Megatron even looked the same in any continuity? Same general face sure but still Megatron really looks nothing like Predator anyways. Plus the human faces just don't reflect alien at all, and changing the faces 2/3 into the series really wouldn't make sense.
ROTF was a turkey, crap beyond crap. Optimus and Bumblebee weren't too bad, but Megatron is Megatron, not a metallic Predator, wheres the 'originality' in that?
This is so very biased....since when has Megatron even looked the same in any continuity? Same general face sure but still Megatron really looks nothing like Predator anyways. Plus the human faces just don't reflect alien at all, and changing the faces 2/3 into the series really wouldn't make sense.
Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology' (1052159)
Posted by SlyTF1 on March 5th, 2010 @ 7:57pm CST
Ah, the "REAL" transformers, yeah, now i see where your going . No one is attacking you, you took your happy little ass on this forum talking shit about ROTF, and now you're saying your being attacked for standing up for the "real" Transformers. There are no "real" Transformers, every series and its derrogatives are the "real" Transformers. There is no one "real" TF universe, because theyre ALL Transformers. If you want to sit at home in your little corner watching G1 all day and talking to yourself how G1 is "The one, the only real Transformers", then you do that, no one is stoping you!
Posted by SlyTF1 on March 5th, 2010 @ 7:57pm CST
SEXFIGHTER wrote:Im saying IIIIFFFF you liked it, thats your agenda, im not interested cobber. Im not baiting here, im being attacked for standing up for RRREEEEAAALLL transformers. For gods sake, i LOVE TRANSFORMERS a LOT more than the average Lady Ga Ga fan....
Ah, the "REAL" transformers, yeah, now i see where your going
. No one is attacking you, you took your happy little ass on this forum talking shit about ROTF, and now you're saying your being attacked for standing up for the "real" Transformers. There are no "real" Transformers, every series and its derrogatives are the "real" Transformers. There is no one "real" TF universe, because theyre ALL Transformers. If you want to sit at home in your little corner watching G1 all day and talking to yourself how G1 is "The one, the only real Transformers", then you do that, no one is stoping you!
