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Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology'

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Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology'

Postby Mechabreaker » Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:46 pm

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Windsweeper wrote:Just keep Leo out of it AND bring back Anthony Anderson.

Also, lets focus on the cool bots this time - Ratchet, Sideswipe, Jolt and Arcee.

No more crap head designs like the Twins.

Mainly though, just get rid of Leo!!!!


I second this. I especially support writing the twins and Leo out of the third movie, mainly the twins, just give some off-hand explanation saying that they got killed or something, just leave them out and I will be very happy!
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Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology'

Postby SEXFIGHTER » Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:41 am

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They need to get rid of that pile of crap Michael tv commercial Bay. Honestly, I sat in the cinema watching ROTF and i felt like getting up and leaving. Batman and Robin made good box office but Joel Schumacher was not invited back due to crapness of the film he delivered, same should happen to Bay, the man is AWFUL and ROTF was just.....UUURRRGH. Get Furman on board for the script and get a director who really IS a fan, not doin it just for the cash.Look at the designs for the cons, yeah, big fans worked on those I must say. Ravage was bout the only Con done right, Soundwave maybe also. Core mythology = apolology for ROTF....AND THEY WONT STICK TO IT.
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Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology'

Postby SEXFIGHTER » Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:44 am

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Oh and those awful twins.... wasnt funny Bay, you gettin to do the 3rd film is hysterical though.
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Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology'

Postby Blurrz » Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:43 am

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SEXFIGHTER wrote:They need to get rid of that pile of crap Michael tv commercial Bay. Honestly, I sat in the cinema watching ROTF and i felt like getting up and leaving. Batman and Robin made good box office but Joel Schumacher was not invited back due to crapness of the film he delivered, same should happen to Bay, the man is AWFUL and ROTF was just.....UUURRRGH. Get Furman on board for the script and get a director who really IS a fan, not doin it just for the cash.Look at the designs for the cons, yeah, big fans worked on those I must say. Ravage was bout the only Con done right, Soundwave maybe also. Core mythology = apolology for ROTF....AND THEY WONT STICK TO IT.


You're 6 months late to the party. We've heard the whining before. Now it's all about making amends and a better third movie. Bay's done good movies before. If you haven't heard of them I'll be sure to bring some cheese for the whine.
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Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology'

Postby SEXFIGHTER » Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:25 am

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No he hasn't, and i clearly referenced 'core mythology'. Hes the least creative director out there, time Hasbro gave someone else a shot for Transformers 3 before Bay kills this franchise with another joke and inuendo ridden pile of tosh. Film maker...ha
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Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology'

Postby Blurrz » Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:07 pm

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You do realize that Michael Bay had nothing to do with those characters? It was Kurtzman and Orci that had a lot to play in it. The movies haven't killed anything. They've revitalized a franchise that was becoming unpopular.
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Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology'

Postby SlyTF1 » Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:05 pm

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I was just watching an episode of Cybertron and just thought..."What if Michael Bay decides to put Primus in this movie, and decides to give him moon balls..." i know this is sort of random, but I just needed to say it.
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Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology'

Postby SEXFIGHTER » Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:17 pm

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Come on, its his name on the whole mess, we all know none of those pathetic anti-transformer designs would be approved without his talentless say so...if you love transformers, you'll wanna get rid of him.
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Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology'

Postby Blurrz » Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:21 pm

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SEXFIGHTER wrote:Come on, its his name on the whole mess, we all know none of those pathetic anti-transformer designs would be approved without his talentless say so...if you love transformers, you'll wanna get rid of him.


My enjoyment of Transformers has nothing to do with whether or not I like Michael Bay. The success of the movies has contributed to Transformers unlike anything else since it's existence. Whether TF3 is badly rated or not, it doesn't matter because it will rack up the big money, much like ROTF did.

In terms of this movie, we've got a fresh start. Go ahead and try to bring down the ship, but Michael Bay will still be the one filming this movie, and whether you like it or not is your opinion.
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Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology'

Postby Mechabreaker » Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:46 pm

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SlyTF1 wrote:I was just watching an episode of Cybertron and just thought..."What if Michael Bay decides to put Primus in this movie, and decides to give him moon balls..." i know this is sort of random, but I just needed to say it.


Heh... moon balls... Seriously, Devastator's "constructicles were not funny in ROTF, I hope he doesn't do anything like that in the third film.

P.S. SlyTF1 I laughed for 10 minutes straight at your signature, especially the "Grammy" bit! :lol:
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Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology'

Postby SlyTF1 » Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:41 pm

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Mechabreaker wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:I was just watching an episode of Cybertron and just thought..."What if Michael Bay decides to put Primus in this movie, and decides to give him moon balls..." i know this is sort of random, but I just needed to say it.


Heh... moon balls... Seriously, Devastator's "constructicles were not funny in ROTF, I hope he doesn't do anything like that in the third film.

P.S. SlyTF1 I laughed for 10 minutes straight at your signature, especially the "Grammy" bit! :lol:


I didnt mind the joke that much, I mean I sort of chuckeled a little bit, but It didnt bother me. And was my sig that funny? I guess so. I just quoted some guy off Youtube that I agreed with.
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Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology'

Postby SEXFIGHTER » Thu Mar 04, 2010 3:47 am

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Hes not a fan, he 'hates' the dinobots and any slick MTV wannabe could puke out what he delivers. If hes stayin on board, and he probably will, I have a few suggestions.... 1.Start to humanise the faces of the bots, this isnt Alien and Bay certainly aint Giger
2.Get rid of the self indulgent design team completely, lets get the bots overall look more G1
3. Get rid of Sams idotic family and girlfriend, lets tell a Transformer story, with a single human perspective.
4.Unicron please.
5.Tell the Shockwave/Dinobot awakening story as a prologue, even throw some Beast wars nods in.
6. Im sure theres more i wanted to put...
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Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology'

Postby Burn » Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:22 am

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SEXFIGHTER wrote:Hes not a fan, he 'hates' the dinobots


I'm a fan (been so since the 80's) and I hate the dinobots. Your point?

1.Start to humanise the faces of the bots, this isnt Alien and Bay certainly aint Giger

I don't like the faces, but I can see where they're coming from. They're aliens, they're not meant to look humanised.

2.Get rid of the self indulgent design team completely, lets get the bots overall look more G1

As much as I loved G1, they're not realistic looking. Oh and btw, this is the 21st century, time for updating!

3. Get rid of Sams idotic family and girlfriend, lets tell a Transformer story, with a single human perspective.

eh, it could probably work.

4.Unicron please.

Or we could NOT re-has the 80's animated movie and *gasp* DO SOMETHING ORIGINAL! (Which is likely to happen now that Hollywood's Un-Original Two-Some aren't onboard)

5.Tell the Shockwave/Dinobot awakening story as a prologue, even throw some Beast wars nods in.

See, again with the lack of originality here.
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Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology'

Postby SlyTF1 » Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:42 am

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SEXFIGHTER wrote:Hes not a fan, he 'hates' the dinobots and any slick MTV wannabe could puke out what he delivers. If hes stayin on board, and he probably will, I have a few suggestions.... 1.Start to humanise the faces of the bots, this isnt Alien and Bay certainly aint Giger
2.Get rid of the self indulgent design team completely, lets get the bots overall look more G1
3. Get rid of Sams idotic family and girlfriend, lets tell a Transformer story, with a single human perspective.
4.Unicron please.
5.Tell the Shockwave/Dinobot awakening story as a prologue, even throw some Beast wars nods in.
6. Im sure theres more i wanted to put...


Bullshit! I agree with everything after #2 except for the dinobots, but the first 2 are pure unadulturated bullshit. This is NOT G1, its not a G1 movie, we got that 20 somthin years ago. This will never be G1. the robots are freking aliens! They are not supposed to have human faces. Again, G1 is gone, there is no bringing it back, unless they decide to re air it. But other than that, nothing will be G1, nothing is G1, it is a whole new ORIGINAL universe of Transformers, not trying to steal every single G1 reference there is and have people whine about that being "unoriginal"
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Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology'

Postby SEXFIGHTER » Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:54 am

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1.Point is you're in a minority.

1.Start to humanise the faces of the bots, this isnt Alien and Bay certainly aint Giger

I don't like the faces, but I can see where they're coming from. They're aliens, they're not meant to look humanised.
Thats true, but if they can change into cars etc, they could alter their own faces easily.
2.Get rid of the self indulgent design team completely, lets get the bots overall look more G1

As much as I loved G1, they're not realistic looking. Oh and btw, this is the 21st century, time for updating!
Says you. I dont mean using the G1 blueprint too rigidly, but reflect it the same way the Alternators line did, they looked great. The G1 designs were iconic, like Spidermans costume or mickey mouse.

3. Get rid of Sams idotic family and girlfriend, lets tell a Transformer story, with a single human perspective.

eh, it could probably work.
Agreed.
4.Unicron please.

Or we could NOT re-has the 80's animated movie and *gasp* DO SOMETHING ORIGINAL! (Which is likely to happen now that Hollywood's Un-Original Two-Some aren't onboard)
Its a MASSIVE part of the mythology, Sam in dicking around in highschool isnt. If you like that, theres always Highschool musical 1, 2, 3 etc.

5.Tell the Shockwave/Dinobot awakening story as a prologue, even throw some Beast wars nods in.

See, again with the lack of originality here.[/quote]
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Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology'

Postby zenosaurus_x » Thu Mar 04, 2010 3:13 pm

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SEXFIGHTER wrote:Hes not a fan, he 'hates' the dinobots and any slick MTV wannabe could puke out what he delivers. If hes stayin on board, and he probably will, I have a few suggestions.... 1.Start to humanise the faces of the bots, this isnt Alien and Bay certainly aint Giger
2.Get rid of the self indulgent design team completely, lets get the bots overall look more G1
3. Get rid of Sams idotic family and girlfriend, lets tell a Transformer story, with a single human perspective.
4.Unicron please.
5.Tell the Shockwave/Dinobot awakening story as a prologue, even throw some Beast wars nods in.
6. Im sure theres more i wanted to put...



Wow....just...wow.
1.NO, they are supposed to be ALIENS, why would they look like us? I loved the old designs but I prefer the new alienistic...(not a word...it should be!) designs.
2.The G1 bots did not look convincing at all, watching a bunch of blocks do the forest fight would've been terrible. Even with the alternators take it just wouldn't look that good...
3.Well....actually you're kinda right here.
4.So...you want it to be the 80's movie? Even if Unicron is important he just doesn't fit with the present movie verse unless it would be in a 4th or 5th movie.
5.I don't see how they'd fit all that well. It'd just confuse viewers more.


I don't know, I just like the movieverse and apparently you don't, if you don't like it then don't watch...easy as that.
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Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology'

Postby Gasket » Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:08 am

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SEXFIGHTER wrote:Hes not a fan, he 'hates' the dinobots and any slick MTV wannabe could puke out what he delivers. If hes stayin on board, and he probably will, I have a few suggestions.... 1.Start to humanise the faces of the bots, this isnt Alien and Bay certainly aint Giger
2.Get rid of the self indulgent design team completely, lets get the bots overall look more G1
3. Get rid of Sams idotic family and girlfriend, lets tell a Transformer story, with a single human perspective.
4.Unicron please.
5.Tell the Shockwave/Dinobot awakening story as a prologue, even throw some Beast wars nods in.
6. Im sure theres more i wanted to put...


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Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology'

Postby SEXFIGHTER » Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:50 pm

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Im afraid kittens are gonna be a bit scarce in Bays part of the world. Anyway, how can people be saying G1 BASED designs wont work when they haven't seen them put into practice with modern technology? they didn't give it a chance. Bay will make whatever crap he can put together in 5 minutes and we're supposed to lap it up cos it says Transformers on the tin? Whats the matter with you, ROTF was a turkey, crap beyond crap. Optimus and Bumblebee weren't too bad, but Megatron is Megatron, not a metallic Predator, wheres the 'originality' in that?
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Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology'

Postby Burn » Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:47 pm

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SEXFIGHTER wrote:1.Point is you're in a minority.


Given that both movies amassed so much money at the boxoffice, I think it's safe to say ALL TF fans are in the minority when it comes to the movies.

Not that you actually answered my question.

Thats true, but if they can change into cars etc, they could alter their own faces easily.


Or the director wants to show that they are in fact alien and doesn't want them to be humanised.

Says you. I dont mean using the G1 blueprint too rigidly, but reflect it the same way the Alternators line did, they looked great. The G1 designs were iconic, like Spidermans costume or mickey mouse.


Iconic yes. But practical? No.

As you said later, no one's seen them used with today's technology. That includes you so how can you say they'll work and that those of us who say they won't are wrong? Face it mate, both sides of the party here have nothing to base their argument on so it's kind of a moot point.

Its a MASSIVE part of the mythology, Sam in dicking around in highschool isnt. If you like that, theres always Highschool musical 1, 2, 3 etc.


Now this is funny. I love how you completely take my words and twist them into a baseless retort.

In the bigger picture, the scenes of Sam at school are very little compared to the rest of the movie.

As for Unicron being a major part of mythology, maybe so, but I still don't see WHY we need to see a giant transforming planet showing up to eat another planet. There's only so many ways that story can be told.

And is it so bad to want to see something NEW in the mythology? Really?

Transformers in highschool the musical anyone?


Lame baseless retorts anyone?

SEXFIGHTER wrote:Im afraid kittens are gonna be a bit scarce in Bays part of the world. Anyway, how can people be saying G1 BASED designs wont work when they haven't seen them put into practice with modern technology? they didn't give it a chance. Bay will make whatever crap he can put together in 5 minutes and we're supposed to lap it up cos it says Transformers on the tin? Whats the matter with you, ROTF was a turkey, crap beyond crap. Optimus and Bumblebee weren't too bad, but Megatron is Megatron, not a metallic Predator, wheres the 'originality' in that?


Well he transforms into an alt mode that doesn't require someone else to hold onto him for starters.

He's also a significantly different character from Megatron's original incarnation.

Oh and just because YOU think ROTF was bad doesn't mean you're right. It just means you have your own opinion which I don't necessarily agree with. That doesn't make you right, it doesn't make me right either, it just means we think differently. Nothing wrong with that at all.

Unless someone tries to jam their opinion down my throat because they think theirs is the only opinion that matters. Then we have a problem. :wink:
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Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology'

Postby SEXFIGHTER » Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:40 pm

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So you say they WONT work because the studio who multibillionaires couldnt be arsed tryin it and Transformers surrenders to the crassness that is ROTF...NOBODY with an intact brainstem found that to be a good movie...cept Transformers number 1 fan...you.
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Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology'

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SEXFIGHTER wrote:So you say they WONT work because the studio who multibillionaires couldnt be arsed tryin it and Transformers surrenders to the crassness that is ROTF...


Please quote me where I said that.

NOBODY with an intact brainstem found that to be a good movie...cept Transformers number 1 fan...you.


oooookay. So you're saying I don't have an intact brainstem simply because I liked a movie that you didn't?

Your sarcasm is completely childish and un-necessary. You do yourself no favours here. I'm more than willing to have an intelligent discussion with you but you need to come back with something better than childish insults to get your point across.
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Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology'

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SEXFIGHTER wrote:So you say they WONT work because the studio who multibillionaires couldnt be arsed tryin it and Transformers surrenders to the crassness that is ROTF...NOBODY with an intact brainstem found that to be a good movie...cept Transformers number 1 fan...you.

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Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology'

Postby SEXFIGHTER » Fri Mar 05, 2010 4:31 pm

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Im saying IIIIFFFF you liked it, thats your agenda, im not interested cobber. Im not baiting here, im being attacked for standing up for RRREEEEAAALLL transformers. For gods sake, i LOVE TRANSFORMERS a LOT more than the average Lady Ga Ga fan....
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Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology'

Postby zenosaurus_x » Fri Mar 05, 2010 6:16 pm

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No...you aren't, you're opinion is NOT everyone's, I happen to really like the movie designs, everyone's tastes are different.

ROTF was a turkey, crap beyond crap. Optimus and Bumblebee weren't too bad, but Megatron is Megatron, not a metallic Predator, wheres the 'originality' in that?


This is so very biased....since when has Megatron even looked the same in any continuity? Same general face sure but still Megatron really looks nothing like Predator anyways. Plus the human faces just don't reflect alien at all, and changing the faces 2/3 into the series really wouldn't make sense.
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Re: Transformers 3 - Bringing Back 'Core Mythology'

Postby SlyTF1 » Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:57 pm

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Ah, the "REAL" transformers, yeah, now i see where your going :roll: . No one is attacking you, you took your happy little ass on this forum talking **** about ROTF, and now you're saying your being attacked for standing up for the "real" Transformers. There are no "real" Transformers, every series and its derrogatives are the "real" Transformers. There is no one "real" TF universe, because theyre ALL Transformers. If you want to sit at home in your little corner watching G1 all day and talking to yourself how G1 is "The one, the only real Transformers", then you do that, no one is stoping you!
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