Toy Fair US 2015 Coverage - Official Hasbro Images of Transformers Robots in Disguise figures
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These give us an up close look at the new minicons and the clear armour bits they come with. It is interesting to note that these clear plastic pieces are packaged in a way that imitates the minicon's fraction symbol. The ones shaped as disks are for Drift while the ones shapes like arrow heads (torpedos) are for Fracture.
Scott notes the following regarding what he saw at the show:
Cool bit about the Minicons - each sprue has a piece on it that can be combined with pieces from other Minicons, and if you buy the whole wave of them you can make a new bot out of said pieces. Pretty neat concept! The transformations also really remind me of the data discs from FoC, just not automatic/spring-loaded like those.
These minicons include:
Akita Wolf
BeastBox
Buzzsaw
Dragon
Fracture
Jetstorm
Ratbat
Scorpion
Slipstream
Sliver
Deployers
Hyperchange Steeljaw
Mega Optimus Prime
Super Bumblebee
Warrior Class figures
One Step
Legion Class Figures
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Posted by PrymeStriker on February 14th, 2015 @ 10:50pm CST
Sideswipe still looks cool, but something about Jazz just doesn't feel right. I'll probably still get him because, screw it, it's fucking Jazz.
Posted by Noideaforaname on February 14th, 2015 @ 11:04pm CST
The Mini-Cons are a bit of a lot of things: the Data Discs, the Construct-Bot dinosaurs, even a bit of BMOG. I wonder if there's a specific bot you make after getting them all, or if it's just an open-ended make whatever.
Posted by william-james88 on February 14th, 2015 @ 11:35pm CST
Lastly, I thought Jazz looked weird too, and then I realized he had eyes.
That Sideswipe looks awesome though!
Posted by welcometothedarksyde on February 14th, 2015 @ 11:37pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on February 14th, 2015 @ 11:49pm CST
welcometothedarksyde wrote:Anybody else getting an Energon Omnicon/Terrorcon vibe from these minicons? These in my opinion fill a collecting niche that the Construct-bots Dinobot Riders and before that Botshots filled. Something inexpensive to waste my money on Any pricing on them yet? They look cute, but they'll certainly cost enough that I'll hesitate to buy them. It's also neat that the transparent armor pieces will combine into their own robot.
4.99$ each packed individually, all the pricing can be found here. I actually think its a fair price since its half a data disk set for half the price.
Posted by Henry921 on February 15th, 2015 @ 12:32am CST
I hope it gets a Warrior class figure, because I like this design best out of the new Decepticons revealed so far.
Posted by william-james88 on February 15th, 2015 @ 12:33am CST
Posted by william-james88 on February 15th, 2015 @ 12:42am CST
Henry921 wrote:I was completely on-board with Fracture, until I looked closer at the little launcher. If I can't hide that thing somewhere in robot mode that's a deal breaker.
I hope it gets a Warrior class figure, because I like this design best out of the new Decepticons revealed so far.
More than hunderoof? I hope that guys gets a warrior treatment and that when the time comes, the rake transforms into his antlers instead of being replaced by them.
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on February 15th, 2015 @ 2:07am CST
HAZZ
EYEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
BLURRRRRRRRRRRRRGGHGGHGHEBBDFS *vomits blood in rage*
Meh, doesn't really bother me to be honest. I can deal with it.
Posted by SkyWarpt on February 15th, 2015 @ 2:46am CST
Posted by Va'al on February 15th, 2015 @ 7:23am CST
And keep scrolling to find out more about the Hero Mashers line, as it takes on the characters from the upcoming animated series too, featuring bodyswapped creations of Bumblebee, Steeljaw, Clampdown - and some intruding Marvel Ant-Man, Guardians of the Galaxy and Avengers characters too!
Robots in Disguise
Hero Mashers
Posted by RhA on February 15th, 2015 @ 9:14am CST
Hasbro: 'Nah.'
Posted by LE0KING on February 15th, 2015 @ 9:52am CST
RhA wrote:RhA: 'Impress me, Hasbro!'
Hasbro: 'Nah.'
Did you not see that Ultra Magnus? Nothing else matters, all these toys can suck it.
Posted by william-james88 on February 15th, 2015 @ 10:10am CST
Posted by RhA on February 15th, 2015 @ 11:14am CST
LE0KING wrote:RhA wrote:RhA: 'Impress me, Hasbro!'
Hasbro: 'Nah.'
Did you not see that Ultra Magnus? Nothing else matters, all these toys can suck it.
You are right. Everything besides CW is meh.
Posted by Sodan-1 on February 15th, 2015 @ 1:46pm CST
As for the rest of the Robots in Disguise line, I'm still trying to figure out what all the different figure types are. I get the impression Hasbro are falling back into the habit of over-saturating their own brand with numerous play options. I feel like I'm going to have to buy them all before I can figure out which one I actually want.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 15th, 2015 @ 1:56pm CST
Sodan-1 wrote:I might go ahead and pick up the Mini-Cons, as they're a little different and quite cool looking. The Deployers don't appeal to me in the slightest and the new play-style is beyond weak.
It's not as new as you think: FoC Soundwave and Blaster have the same gimmick, especially with the Mini-Cons being more like their little buddies.
Posted by Tsutsukakushi on February 15th, 2015 @ 3:06pm CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 15th, 2015 @ 3:11pm CST
Tsutsukakushi wrote:I've got a few questions about this Rid toy.
What is the bigger non minicon toy's name? is it Fracture or Airazor?
How big is the non minicon toy? Deluxe class or Voyager Class?
What is HasTak calling the vechicle mode for the bigger non minicon toy? Please don't say deployer as that's the gimmick.
Fracture, Voyager Class, hover bike.
Posted by Burn on February 15th, 2015 @ 3:34pm CST
Posted by Sodan-1 on February 15th, 2015 @ 3:36pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sodan-1 wrote:I might go ahead and pick up the Mini-Cons, as they're a little different and quite cool looking. The Deployers don't appeal to me in the slightest and the new play-style is beyond weak.
It's not as new as you think: FoC Soundwave and Blaster have the same gimmick, especially with the Mini-Cons being more like their little buddies.
It's not the same gimmick, though. Not entirely. The internal storage and automatic transformation of Rewind, Frenzy and company is what made them special to me. These Mini-Con are more like spring-launched projectiles that happen to transform. I don't know whether to view them as poor functioning weapons or broken Bot Shots.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 15th, 2015 @ 3:43pm CST
Sodan-1 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sodan-1 wrote:I might go ahead and pick up the Mini-Cons, as they're a little different and quite cool looking. The Deployers don't appeal to me in the slightest and the new play-style is beyond weak.
It's not as new as you think: FoC Soundwave and Blaster have the same gimmick, especially with the Mini-Cons being more like their little buddies.
It's not the same gimmick, though. Not entirely. The internal storage and automatic transformation of Rewind, Frenzy and company is what made them special to me. These Mini-Con are more like spring-launched projectiles that happen to transform. I don't know whether to view them as poor functioning weapons or broken Bot Shots.
I view them as a de-evolution of Gen. Rumble, Frenzy and co.: all transform into the same shape and can be shot out, they just don't have a springloaded transformation.
Posted by Sodan-1 on February 15th, 2015 @ 4:08pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sodan-1 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sodan-1 wrote:I might go ahead and pick up the Mini-Cons, as they're a little different and quite cool looking. The Deployers don't appeal to me in the slightest and the new play-style is beyond weak.
It's not as new as you think: FoC Soundwave and Blaster have the same gimmick, especially with the Mini-Cons being more like their little buddies.
It's not the same gimmick, though. Not entirely. The internal storage and automatic transformation of Rewind, Frenzy and company is what made them special to me. These Mini-Con are more like spring-launched projectiles that happen to transform. I don't know whether to view them as poor functioning weapons or broken Bot Shots.
I view them as a de-evolution of Gen. Rumble, Frenzy and co.: all transform into the same shape and can be shot out, they just don't have a springloaded transformation.
That's fair, but as a de-evolution I just can't help but think 'what's the point'? I suppose you could accuse me of over thinking it, but once you fire off a projectile you generally don't interact with it much. Otherwise what's the point of it being a projectile?
Posted by Zeedust on February 15th, 2015 @ 6:49pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I view them as a de-evolution of Gen. Rumble, Frenzy and co.: all transform into the same shape and can be shot out, they just don't have a springloaded transformation.
Except judging from the video, these things can actually shoot properly instead of jamming in the chest.
Posted by Cobotron on February 15th, 2015 @ 8:26pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on February 15th, 2015 @ 9:58pm CST
Tsutsukakushi wrote:I've got a few questions about this Rid toy.
What is the bigger non minicon toy's name? is it Fracture or Airazor?
How big is the non minicon toy? Deluxe class or Voyager Class?
What is HasTak calling the vechicle mode for the bigger non minicon toy? Please don't say deployer as that's the gimmick.
You might be asking nicely, but it doesn't change the fact that these things are officially called Minicon Deployers. here's the official Hasbro description of what they are called:
TRANSFORMERS: ROBOTS IN DISGUISE MINI-CON DEPLOYERS
(Ages 6 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: $19.99/Available: Fall 2015)
DEPLOYERS figures team with exclusive deployable MINI-CON figures to demolish enemies! Pick a side and choose a warrior: AUTOBOT DRIFT or DECEPTICON FRACTURE. Each DEPLOYERS figure comes with one MINI-CON figure that it can deploy into battle! DEPLOYERS figures convert from robot to vehicle in less than 10 steps. Their MINI-CON teammates convert in just one. AUTOBOT DRIFT figure works with all buzzsaw-shaped MINI-CON figures. DECEPTICON FRACTURE figure works with all torpedo-shaped MINI-CON figures. Collect and deploy! Take the action to your mobile device.
Download the TRANSFORMERS: ROBOTS IN DISGUISE app to your digital device, then scan the shield to unlock a character or weapons or more!
Also, they arent voyager size, they are more like the old Beast Wars Mega size, so just a tad bit bigger than a deluxe.
Posted by Tsutsukakushi on February 15th, 2015 @ 10:28pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Tsutsukakushi wrote:I've got a few questions about this Rid toy.
What is the bigger non minicon toy's name? is it Fracture or Airazor?
How big is the non minicon toy? Deluxe class or Voyager Class?
What is HasTak calling the vechicle mode for the bigger non minicon toy? Please don't say deployer as that's the gimmick.
Fracture, Voyager Class, hover bike.
Thanks for all the Information.
Posted by Tsutsukakushi on February 16th, 2015 @ 2:44am CST
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on February 16th, 2015 @ 3:29am CST
Posted by william-james88 on February 16th, 2015 @ 8:01am CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Anybody hear the rumor that Jazz is a heavy retool of Prime Deluxe Bumblebee? Personally I hope it's a retool of Hot Shot since that version of the mold had the gears in the neck fixed so the head would lay flat. Sideswipe looks really good but that Ultimate Prime looks exactly like the Hyperchange figure. I can maybe see one or two new parts.
Yeah, he's definitely been oversized. The new added parts are mostly to accomodate Minicons.
Posted by william-james88 on February 16th, 2015 @ 8:02am CST
Tsutsukakushi wrote:These Rid Minicons look interesting but probably won't buy any.
I'll get them when they are discounted. I dont feel the urge to also purchase the Minicon Deployers though, I dont feel the mechanism is worth playing with at my age (it looks very archaic). The minicons look good on their own, especially the animal ones.
Posted by King Kuuga on February 17th, 2015 @ 6:27pm CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Anybody hear the rumor that Jazz is a heavy retool of Prime Deluxe Bumblebee? Personally I hope it's a retool of Hot Shot since that version of the mold had the gears in the neck fixed so the head would lay flat. Sideswipe looks really good but that Ultimate Prime looks exactly like the Hyperchange figure. I can maybe see one or two new parts.
I'm not seeing it.
Posted by william-james88 on February 17th, 2015 @ 7:31pm CST
That Bot wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Anybody hear the rumor that Jazz is a heavy retool of Prime Deluxe Bumblebee? Personally I hope it's a retool of Hot Shot since that version of the mold had the gears in the neck fixed so the head would lay flat. Sideswipe looks really good but that Ultimate Prime looks exactly like the Hyperchange figure. I can maybe see one or two new parts.
I'm not seeing it.
Not seeing what? He's referring to these two toys by the way:
Posted by william-james88 on February 17th, 2015 @ 9:56pm CST
I hate seeing designs just wasted like this. I am really hoping for a warrior class in wave two.
Posted by Cobotron on February 17th, 2015 @ 10:04pm CST
Posted by shajaki on February 17th, 2015 @ 10:36pm CST
i know! when i first saw the pic i was all "sweeet!" cause i assumed it was warrior class. then i was all "awwwww" when i dropped my icecreamCobotron wrote::lol: So far he has been the one character I have been most excited about. I too was disappointed when I saw that stop drop flippity flop toy. Here's to hoping he gets a warrior class treatment.
Posted by Sabrblade on February 17th, 2015 @ 10:42pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on February 17th, 2015 @ 10:50pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:I'm more looking forward to Steeljaw since he's gonna take it upon himself to step up as leader and build up an army by recruiting/forcing the other Cons to join with him. Whereas the other Cons seem to be just upon to random mischief or personal gain, he's the one seeing the bigger picture and trying to plan out a long term strategy, as though he sees how just going about and doing whatever he wants like the other Cons appear to be doing is pointless and ineffective.
I think Cobotron and Shajaki were more referring to just the character design and possibility for a toy.
Posted by King Kuuga on February 17th, 2015 @ 10:55pm CST
william-james88 wrote:That Bot wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Anybody hear the rumor that Jazz is a heavy retool of Prime Deluxe Bumblebee? Personally I hope it's a retool of Hot Shot since that version of the mold had the gears in the neck fixed so the head would lay flat. Sideswipe looks really good but that Ultimate Prime looks exactly like the Hyperchange figure. I can maybe see one or two new parts.
I'm not seeing it.
Not seeing what? He's referring to these two toys by the way:
http://static.seibertron.com/images/toy ... 1_rid1.jpg
http://cdn.tfw2005.com/transformers-new ... 964293.jpg
Whoops, I should have clarified. I meant I'm not seeing Jazz as a retool of PRID Bumblebee. I compared the two and I don't see much in the way of similarities.
Posted by Cobotron on February 17th, 2015 @ 11:04pm CST
Ya, the whole stag thing ices the cake for me. In fact thats the first I've seen of his alt mode. He's a tractor? Pppphhhhhhh, AWESOME! I'm down with that mischief.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I'm more looking forward to Steeljaw since he's gonna take it upon himself to step up as leader and build up an army by recruiting/forcing the other Cons to join with him. Whereas the other Cons seem to be just upon to random mischief or personal gain, he's the one seeing the bigger picture and trying to plan out a long term strategy, as though he sees how just going about and doing whatever he wants like the other Cons appear to be doing is pointless and ineffective.
I think Cobotron and Shajaki were more referring to just the character design and possibility for a toy.
I would hope that some day someone does a green and yellow repaint, of old Johny boy there.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on February 18th, 2015 @ 12:19am CST
That Bot wrote:william-james88 wrote:That Bot wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Anybody hear the rumor that Jazz is a heavy retool of Prime Deluxe Bumblebee? Personally I hope it's a retool of Hot Shot since that version of the mold had the gears in the neck fixed so the head would lay flat. Sideswipe looks really good but that Ultimate Prime looks exactly like the Hyperchange figure. I can maybe see one or two new parts.
I'm not seeing it.
Not seeing what? He's referring to these two toys by the way:
http://static.seibertron.com/images/toy ... 1_rid1.jpg
http://cdn.tfw2005.com/transformers-new ... 964293.jpg
Whoops, I should have clarified. I meant I'm not seeing Jazz as a retool of PRID Bumblebee. I compared the two and I don't see much in the way of similarities.
Look at the arms and shoulders. They're identical to Bumblebee's. Jazz also has that flap behind his head. It kinda makes sense they would re-use the mold since it has to be a simplified toy.
Posted by King Kuuga on February 18th, 2015 @ 2:16am CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Look at the arms and shoulders. They're identical to Bumblebee's. Jazz also has that flap behind his head. It kinda makes sense they would re-use the mold since it has to be a simplified toy.
The shoulders are similar, but definitely not identical. The head flap is completely different in both shape AND function between Jazz and Bumblebee. Bee's is a rounded "L" shape that his head sits on, with the middle of the grille sitting behind his head. It moves 180 degrees for transformation. Meanwhile, Jazz's is most likely a regular L shaped piece, with the part sitting behind his head becoming a wedge in the hood of the car (a common Jazz trait). It only rotates 90 degrees. The arms on Jazz form the front fender and grille of the car mode instead of the sides, and they clearly lack the rigid gearing that kept Bee's arms sitting low, instead having a thick moving connection between the shoulders and torso. On top of that, every single part of Jazz is shaped and sculpted differently from those on Bumblebee. They don't share any identifiable parts that I can see, and the only similar elements are the shoulder wheel hubs, the door wings, and the roof of the car on the back. That last trait is extremely common and not limited to just Prime Bumblebee's toys. These are two completely different molds.
Posted by Madeus Prime on February 19th, 2015 @ 10:16am CST
Posted by william-james88 on February 19th, 2015 @ 10:51am CST
One of the challenges we had with Transformers over the last five years, six years is the product line was getting more and more challenging. We had one product line for everybody and the feedback we were getting back from parents and kids is that it was too difficult.
So that's when we went to this "three pillar" strategy where we have both a story and product that is appropriate for the three age groups.
The three age groups are preschool (2-4), young children (5-9), and older children and collectors (10-).
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 19th, 2015 @ 11:01am CST
william-james88 wrote:Although many of us are coming to terms with it and have deduced as such, the guy in charge of the Transformers brand has just confirmed that this toy line as a whole is not collector oriented. We will not be getting more complicated transformers from the Robots in disguise line. The article is a bit long so I will just quote the main line:One of the challenges we had with Transformers over the last five years, six years is the product line was getting more and more challenging. We had one product line for everybody and the feedback we were getting back from parents and kids is that it was too difficult.
So that's when we went to this "three pillar" strategy where we have both a story and product that is appropriate for the three age groups.
The three age groups are preschool (2-4), young children (5-9), and older children and collectors (10-).
So, Rescue Bots, Robots in Disguise and Generations, in that order. That also explains a bit the main medium used: TV shows vs. comics.
Posted by william-james88 on February 19th, 2015 @ 11:42am CST
Will we be seeing more Decepticons as Warrior Class figures (because so far everything we've been shown are Autobots)?
What we want to make sure is that some of the older boys that like more articulation and complex transformations and detail...that we had a SKU that represented that and the Warriors does that. What we want to do is continue to roll out more characters, both Autobots and Decepticons will be in that line.
What was the thought process behind making the "Robots in Disguise" Decepticons "animal-robots" that turn into vehicles as opposed to the Autobots who are just straight up robots to vehicles?
Honestly it was testing with kids. We tested some different versions of what the Decepticons could be. We liked the Autobots staying with the vehicle forms. We felt that was important. We wanted Bumblebee to stay a car. We wanted to see Sideswipe, he's go the red race car and Strongarm is a police vehicle. Grimlock was brought in because Grimlock was introduced in the movie, we wanted to bring him into the core team so obviously he's a dinosaur, a T-Rex.
But when we looked at the Decepticons we said "Okay, we've got an opportunity here. We can change it up a little bit." so we actually showed kids different vehicle forms, animal forms, like what if this guy could go into a wolf, then a robot, then a car - ok that's cool and so a lot of it just came down to what kids liked. We thought it was a cool way to introduce..we did a little bit with "Beast Hunters". "Beast Hunters" introduced Predaking with the dragon and we got some great feedback on that and some of the characters in there so we thought...we wanted to go a little more down the route of introducing some beast forms just to give the Decepticons a different edge to them that they hadn't had in the past. Plus over the years we've done a lot of vehicles, you know, whether it was an Autobot or Decepticon that the robot goes to a vehicle. We thought it was a level of newness and the kids responded really well to it so we thought this would be a great way to tell that story.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on February 19th, 2015 @ 2:34pm CST
That Bot wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Look at the arms and shoulders. They're identical to Bumblebee's. Jazz also has that flap behind his head. It kinda makes sense they would re-use the mold since it has to be a simplified toy.
The shoulders are similar, but definitely not identical. The head flap is completely different in both shape AND function between Jazz and Bumblebee. Bee's is a rounded "L" shape that his head sits on, with the middle of the grille sitting behind his head. It moves 180 degrees for transformation. Meanwhile, Jazz's is most likely a regular L shaped piece, with the part sitting behind his head becoming a wedge in the hood of the car (a common Jazz trait). It only rotates 90 degrees. The arms on Jazz form the front fender and grille of the car mode instead of the sides, and they clearly lack the rigid gearing that kept Bee's arms sitting low, instead having a thick moving connection between the shoulders and torso. On top of that, every single part of Jazz is shaped and sculpted differently from those on Bumblebee. They don't share any identifiable parts that I can see, and the only similar elements are the shoulder wheel hubs, the door wings, and the roof of the car on the back. That last trait is extremely common and not limited to just Prime Bumblebee's toys. These are two completely different molds.
Having seen both those shots I can see a difference, so while Jazz may not be a heavy retool, I believe they share the same buck. Looking at the chest of Jazz the gears are gone which may mean that while it'll Transform the same it won't be an automorph style.
Posted by william-james88 on February 19th, 2015 @ 2:36pm CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 19th, 2015 @ 2:58pm CST
william-james88 wrote:I think there's a huge difference between things being made in the same style and a retool. This is more of a case of G2 Smokejumper and Energon Starscream.
Even then it's not 100% faithful. Sharing bits of engineering happens all the time, look at G1 Jazz and the Datsun triplets, or even the G1 Micromasters.
Posted by william-james88 on February 19th, 2015 @ 3:03pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:william-james88 wrote:I think there's a huge difference between things being made in the same style and a retool. This is more of a case of G2 Smokejumper and Energon Starscream.
Even then it's not 100% faithful. Sharing bits of engineering happens all the time, look at G1 Jazz and the Datsun triplets, or even the G1 Micromasters.
Yup, thats exactly the way I was thinking. I really dont see much similarity in those two toys. I look at the chest and I go "maybe" but then I look at the limbs and any sense that these two might be based off eachother just falls apart.
All the examples you gave, Jelze, along with mine, are exactly what this is all about.