Toy Fair 2016: Official Images of Platinum Robots in Disguise and Cyclonus and Sweeps Sets #HasbroToyFair #TFNY

Those look... interesting???

not a fan of the translucent parts at all. not sure what they were thinking.

nice that we get the takara battle grimlock though.

griftimus prime wrote:not a fan of the translucent parts at all. not sure what they were thinking.

I think it's a reference to the transformation scene in the movie when their becoming Galvatron and Cyclonus etc.

yeah i'm not that impressed with Cyclonus & Scourge(i still prefer the look of the Titan Wars one)

Grimlock looks ok

Deadput wrote:

griftimus prime wrote:not a fan of the translucent parts at all. not sure what they were thinking.

I think it's a reference to the transformation scene in the movie when their becoming Galvatron and Cyclonus etc.

i thought the same thing. but i do not like being able to see through the figures.

More overuse of transparent plastic on what's bound to be another poorly priced platinum set. Why use a new Devcon head we've never seen before for this nonsense?

Whoever is thinking up these sets and deccos really needs to move onto a different toyline. Their heart is clearly not in it.

It's like a complete line of afterthoughts.

Here's an idea for a Platinum Set!

Troop building Junkions and Sweeps. No silly gimmicks like translucent plastic, just troop builders, a set people would actually be interested in instead of tacky reuses of old molds.

MemphisR56 wrote:More overuse of transparent plastic on what's bound to be another poorly priced platinum set. Why use a new Devcon head we've never seen before for this nonsense?

Whoever is thinking up these sets and deccos really needs to move onto a different toyline. Their heart is clearly not in it.

It's like a complete line of afterthoughts.

It's actually not the Devcon tooling. It actually looks like a whole new tooling, with Devcon's face but Scourge's head tube thing. Why even bother making a new head just for this set, who knows.

Burn wrote:Here's an idea for a Platinum Set!

Troop building Junkions and Sweeps. No silly gimmicks like translucent plastic, just troop builders, a set people would actually be interested in instead of tacky reuses of old molds.

Or two 3-packs of the seeker limbs, if you look, airraid has a triangle cut-out under his cockpit, almost as if the head it were to conceal ended in a cone shape

Mindmaster wrote:

MemphisR56 wrote:More overuse of transparent plastic on what's bound to be another poorly priced platinum set. Why use a new Devcon head we've never seen before for this nonsense?

Whoever is thinking up these sets and deccos really needs to move onto a different toyline. Their heart is clearly not in it.

It's like a complete line of afterthoughts.

It's actually not the Devcon tooling. It actually looks like a whole new tooling, with Devcon's face but Scourge's head tube thing. Why even bother making a new head just for this set, who knows.

I actually did say that it was a new head, this was exactly the point I was driving at.

Burn wrote:here's an idea

Y'know, when I heard the rumours of a cyclonus' armada set, and a junkion set, that was exactly what I was hoping it to be.

But instead we get this shit show

MemphisR56 wrote:

Burn wrote:here's an idea

Y'know, when I heard the rumours of a cyclonus' armada set, and a junkion set, that was exactly what I was hoping it to be.

But instead we get this SHIZZLESNIT show

Ironically, I wonder if hasbro considered doing that (it would be cheap) but thought that we (consumers) would say that that was 'lazy' of them, and changed it at the last minute

griftimus prime wrote:nice that we get the takara battle grimlock though.

yeah i thought that was a nice touch too

Hellscream9999 wrote:

MemphisR56 wrote:

Burn wrote:here's an idea

Y'know, when I heard the rumours of a cyclonus' armada set, and a junkion set, that was exactly what I was hoping it to be.

But instead we get this SHIZZLESNIT show

Ironically, I wonder if hasbro considered doing that (it would be cheap) but thought that we (consumers) would say that that was 'lazy' of them, and changed it at the last minute

It seems possible. But considering some of the mold choices (e.g. Classics Hotrod, Universe Galvatron & Titanium Rodimus) I'd say they're very much dissociated from any idea of what the fans want, at least for the platinum sets.


I just keep wondering 'who are they for?'.
The pricepoint is too high for your average casual fan to go "oh wow, i remember these guys!", a lot of the more seasoned collectors will already have most of the molds and characters in one way or another, or even be looking to get new versions in the case of Galvatron. The diehard G1 fabs will look at the inaccurate deccos and be turned off.

The decco doesn't even seem to be the sort of premium paint job stuff you'd get from an e-hobby or asain market 3-pack set to justify that price.

Who actually wants to buy these?

MemphisR56 wrote:Who actually wants to buy these?

Two types of people
Those who "gotta have them all" and those who missed out on previous releases.

Otherwise ... yeah, who wants to buy them? There's just no appeal, translucent plastic is NOT an appeal.

Burn wrote:

MemphisR56 wrote:Who actually wants to buy these?

Two types of people
Those who "gotta have them all" and those who missed out on previous releases.

Otherwise ... yeah, who wants to buy them? There's just no appeal, translucent plastic is NOT an appeal.

The latter being me. Never got Wreck-Gar, could use Scrapheap as a buddy for Junkheap, and I sorta like Rodimus enough to replace the RTS one that came with Cyclonus.

But agreed; translucent plastic only works for light piping. Imagine my discomfort when I realized BotCon 2014 Pounce and Wingspan had translucent hinges in their calves....

Mindmaster wrote:

Burn wrote:

MemphisR56 wrote:Who actually wants to buy these?

Two types of people
Those who "gotta have them all" and those who missed out on previous releases.

Otherwise ... yeah, who wants to buy them? There's just no appeal, translucent plastic is NOT an appeal.

The latter being me. Never got Wreck-Gar, could use Scrapheap as a buddy for Junkheap, and I sorta like Rodimus enough to replace the RTS one that came with Cyclonus.

But agreed; translucent plastic only works for light piping. Imagine my discomfort when I realized BotCon 2014 Pounce and Wingspan had translucent hinges in their calves....

Or, option 3, people who want anything that deals with TF:TM 30th Anniversary...which is me..

itscramtastic wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

Burn wrote:

MemphisR56 wrote:Who actually wants to buy these?

Two types of people
Those who "gotta have them all" and those who missed out on previous releases.

Otherwise ... yeah, who wants to buy them? There's just no appeal, translucent plastic is NOT an appeal.

The latter being me. Never got Wreck-Gar, could use Scrapheap as a buddy for Junkheap, and I sorta like Rodimus enough to replace the RTS one that came with Cyclonus.

But agreed; translucent plastic only works for light piping. Imagine my discomfort when I realized BotCon 2014 Pounce and Wingspan had translucent hinges in their calves....

Or, option 3, people who want anything that deals with TF:TM 30th Anniversary...which is me..

I refer you back to option 1: "Gotta have 'em all"

MemphisR56 wrote:

itscramtastic wrote:Or, option 3, people who want anything that deals with TF:TM 30th Anniversary...which is me..

I refer you back to option 1: "Gotta have 'em all"

Except that it's not the same thing.

Wanting all of a specific thing is not the same as wanting everything.

Deadput wrote:

MemphisR56 wrote:

itscramtastic wrote:Or, option 3, people who want anything that deals with TF:TM 30th Anniversary...which is me..

I refer you back to option 1: "Gotta have 'em all"

Except that it's not the same thing.

Wanting all of a specific thing is not the same as wanting everything.

I agree that it's the same but not, so less "Pokémon: Gotta Catch 'Em All" and more "Dare! Dare to believe I'll buy the toys! They hold my future in their hands!"

Both of those references need to be sung, one louder and with the passion of Stan Bush.

Well, we are getting the takara voyager Grimlock! However, I cannot consider this a win.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Well, we are getting the takara voyager Grimlock! However, I cannot consider this a win.

Why not? I mean, its not a win for me, but why wouldnt it be a win for you? Or anyone?

Well, it being a Platinum release means that it's probably not gonna be any cheaper than getting the Takara original.

Not to mention that it's less show-accurate than the Takara original anyway.

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Well, we are getting the takara voyager Grimlock! However, I cannot consider this a win.

Why not? I mean, its not a win for me, but why wouldnt it be a win for you? Or anyone?

Being how costly the Platinum editions are, it makes it a bit difficult to justify a price that will probably end up about $90-100. For most. for a few, it may be a win though

Sabrblade wrote:Well, it being a Platinum release means that it's probably not gonna be any cheaper than getting the Takara original.

Not to mention that it's less show-accurate than the Takara original anyway.

You'd get an extra Bumblebee though... Oooooooooooooooooo...... right...

Uhm... Yay?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
You'd get an extra Bumblebee though... Oooooooooooooooooo...... right...

Uhm... Yay?

Yeah that Bumblebee looks quite nice love the metallic gold!


Oh wait you mean that in one of those ways...

Am I totally alone in thinking that Cyclonus, Scourge and Sweep look cool?

...Yes?... Lone Wolf!

I guess this set will cost as much the Planet of Junk set, right?

I can get the Planet of Junk for $129.95 AUD. Buying just one deluxe TF at the shops is $30 here, so that's what? an extra $40 for the platinum-ness of it all. It's not so bad comparitivly, mind you that is only because I get so monumentally screwed on the prices for regular TFs

Burn wrote:

MemphisR56 wrote:Who actually wants to buy these?

Two types of people
Those who "gotta have them all" and those who missed out on previous releases.

Otherwise ... yeah, who wants to buy them? There's just no appeal, translucent plastic is NOT an appeal.

B-but, I'm a completionist* that loves translucent plastic...

*there are still limits, let's not get caught up on the semantics

How can you not love clear plastic when it yielded these beautiful specimens:


Transformers Generation One Shining Ultra Magnus (Matrix Glow Magnus) Gallery


Transformers United Cyclonus (e-Hobby) Gallery


Transformers United Hot Rod (e-Hobby) Gallery


Or if homages are your thing, you could consider the new Platinum Cyclonus' partially clear state to homage Botcon Cyclonus:


Transformers Convention & Club Exclusives Cyclonus Gallery

I don't know when this post got goofy, so I'll apologize and end it now

There's just no appeal, translucent plastic is NOT an appeal.

What? Its very appealing. I love my translucent plastic bots. Main reason why I bought Transformers Prime Dark Energon Wheeljack, and I'm looking for Sons of Cybertron Rodimus.

Its fine if you don't like translucent plastic, but making a broad statement that there is no appeal is just wrong.

There are many out there that do like translucent plastic. Heck, I love the YOG G2 Optimus Prime because of its translucent plastic. And now he's pretty affordable because nobody wants him, he's on clearance now. Win win for me. I expect about the same for Optimus Primal.

I think Translucent plastic is pretty cool too when well implemented. I like those trans scanning varaints to the movie figures and I much preffer the Translucent version of Prime Predaking's wings:


Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Predaking (2014) Gallery

I concede the point, when done right, translucent plastic can be nice when done right. But in the case of these sets, the added transparency doesn't really (opinion alert) add anything of additional merit, but infact takes away by making some of the figure more fragile than it would have been if cast in HDPE.

With that qualifying remark, I stand by my assessment that the translucent plastic is not a draw (for me).

One last proof of how clear plastic has its place in TFs:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Well, we are getting the takara voyager Grimlock! However, I cannot consider this a win.

Which one is this-a reissue is it?

Nemesis Destron wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Well, we are getting the takara voyager Grimlock! However, I cannot consider this a win.

Which one is this-a reissue is it?

You may want to recheck that phrasing.

The platinum RID Grimlock is a reissue of Takara's Battle Grimlock with a more metalic paint job.

Nemesis Destron wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Well, we are getting the takara voyager Grimlock! However, I cannot consider this a win.

Which one is this-a reissue is it?

The remolded FOC Grimlock into Takara's Adventure Line TAV-30 Battle Grimlock:

i.e This



Which was remolded from this:



And was previously only available in Japan, now will look like this:

Ahhhh got it, thanks for crystallizing this!

Overcracker wrote:

Nemesis Destron wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Well, we are getting the takara voyager Grimlock! However, I cannot consider this a win.

Which one is this-a reissue is it?

The remolded FOC Grimlock into Takara's Adventure Line TAV-30 Battle Grimlock:

i.e This



Which was remolded from this:



And was previously only available in Japan, now will look like this:

Is it just me, or does the platinum rid grim look like it has more paint apps than the tt version

Yessss more sweeps is always good. If anything, these are going to work for my Unicron display. Shine a light through that clear plastic and instant reformatting scene.


Also nice to see we are getting the takara grimlock. I'll get the platinum set since I don't have warrior class bumblebee and this version looks a hell of a lot better than the mass release.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

Nemesis Destron wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Well, we are getting the takara voyager Grimlock! However, I cannot consider this a win.

Which one is this-a reissue is it?

The remolded FOC Grimlock into Takara's Adventure Line TAV-30 Battle Grimlock:

i.e This



Which was remolded from this:



And was previously only available in Japan, now will look like this:

Is it just me, or does the platinum rid grim look like it has more paint apps than the tt version

It seems to have additional details that are not present on the takara version. For example the dino feet are green like the tv series while takara left them black. Also the feet have more black to better match the tv show.

skidflap wrote:Yessss more sweeps is always good. If anything, these are going to work for my Unicron display. Shine a light through that clear plastic and instant reformatting scene.


Also nice to see we are getting the takara grimlock. I'll get the platinum set since I don't have warrior class bumblebee and this version looks a hell of a lot better than the mass release.

Yeah, and plus, if you already have Universe Cyclonus, this extra one could be that extra one from that same scene:

Mindmaster wrote:

Burn wrote:

MemphisR56 wrote:Who actually wants to buy these?

Two types of people
Those who "gotta have them all" and those who missed out on previous releases.

Otherwise ... yeah, who wants to buy them? There's just no appeal, translucent plastic is NOT an appeal.

The latter being me.

Ditto, a lot of these recently announced platty sets are looking very appealing to me.

Tyberion wrote:Am I totally alone in thinking that Cyclonus, Scourge and Sweep look cool?

Nope, I think Cyclonus and friends look very cool with those bits of translucent plastic.

I'm also stoked for the voyager RID Grimlock set. I don't need another Bee in my life and I'm afraid the price is going hurt my feelings a bit.

I'm really digging the Sweeps. I think the translucent plastic makes them look pretty neat and I dig the shaved Sweep. The movie is a big part of my collecting drive, so having more Sweeps is always good. Maybe I'll even break out my other Sweeps and redo my Sweeps display (which would displace my Junkion display, not really liking that set much).

I dislike the translucent plastic on Cycloinus, though. Mostly just his head. I guess it must part of the same batch as the other translucent parts, but it's just weird IMO.

Fellow Seibertronians, TFW2005 member BattleUpSaber has reported finding the RID Platinum set in Singapore, where the set is priced at 129.90. The set, first seen at NY Toyfair this year, is of particular note, as it utilizes the Takara Tomy voyager class Grimlock - an extensive retool of Fall of Cybertron Grimlock. The picture has been mirrored, and can be seen below. And, as always, let us know what you think of this in the comments below.

Even translating to american dollars, dang that is a bit pricey

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Even translating to american dollars, dang that is a bit pricey

Indeed, somewhere near $100 US, this actually makes sense, if hasbro had nothing to do with this mold, they probably had to pay a bit to help offset TT's cost of making the mold. I still find it inexcusable, and won't be buying it, but at least it makes more sense than any of the other ones

Cool.

I am wondering if anyone happy with the announcement that this mold was coming to the west will still buy it at its approsimate 100$ US price tag. And while that price blows, it is very close to the other prices we have seen. If 3 insecticons cost 75$, a deluxe and voyager set being around that is not unimaginable.

william-james88 wrote:I am wondering if anyone happy with the announcement that this mold was coming to the west will still buy it at its approximate 100$ US price tag.

Nope

william-james88 wrote:I am wondering if anyone happy with the announcement that this mold was coming to the west will still buy it at its approsimate 100$ US price tag. And while that price blows, it is very close to the other prices we have seen. If 3 insecticons cost 75$, a deluxe and voyager set being around that is not unimaginable.

Do note that toys tend to be over charged around here, so if the set goes for $130SGD here that should be around $65USD, not $95.

Which is still overpriced, but it's better than what we have here.

BattleUpSaber wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I am wondering if anyone happy with the announcement that this mold was coming to the west will still buy it at its approsimate 100$ US price tag. And while that price blows, it is very close to the other prices we have seen. If 3 insecticons cost 75$, a deluxe and voyager set being around that is not unimaginable.

Do note that toys tend to be over charged around here, so if the set goes for $130SGD here that should be around $65USD, not $95.

Which is still overpriced, but it's better than what we have here.

HA! No way it's going to be that cheap, $65 is actually comparable to a decent deal

I'm just glad I got the Takara version when I could. The price was a lot better and the Takara color scheme is more screen accurate.