Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons)
Tuesday, October 27th, 2015 10:56PM CDT
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Fellow Seibertronian extraordinaire Cobotron has just recieved TAV30 Battle Grimlock and has graciously made a review filled with pictures. What is most interesting is the level of changes from the previous use of the mold (for FOC Grimlock) along with the minicon ports found on the figure. Take it away Cobotron!
FANTASTIC! This TAV30 Battle Grimlock is just fantstic everybody. I mean it.
This re-shell is amazing. He's almost a whole new toy. We're talking Springer/Sandstorm good. He is bulked out in all the right places. 92% of the surfaces of this figure have all new sculpted detailing. There are paint apps everywhere.
The modified T-Rex head transformation is a little more refined than his predecessor, and really well concealed in robot mode. Everything else about his transformation is identical to FoC Grim.
The plastic is quality, and much more durable than the AOE Target exclusive version I have. (which I think is flimsier than the OG FoC release)
He does have a few of the quirks of his older bro. The little dino arms still pop off real easy, and the feet. With all the re-tooling they did, I'm really surprised they kept the feet. They're not the most stable. But hey, we can work with it.
Let's look at the box!
The back of the box has this great shot of Grimlock just turning poor Rumble and Frenzy to pure chunder.
Now the toy.
So as I was transforming him I noticed on his shoulders, were some little I-beam shaped tabs, and it dawned on me...
...I had seen those before. On the soon to be released TAV33 Optimus Prime Supreme Mode. Who is capable of equipping the minicons.
So I scooped up all my Autobot minicons. I fussed and fiddled. but couldn't quite get them to peg on. They have these little "skies' on there underside , so they slide when they're launched. They wouldn't allow the mini to peg on. So, I grabbed a Decepticon and he COULD peg on!
Ok, that's odd, but ... MINICON INTERGRATION! Woot! Woot!
There is even a tab on his belly in dino mode. Dragonus here does a great job of filling out that cavity, and covering up some kibble.
Let's see some comps!
The robot mode is a little elongated compared to the cartoon model, but I never hold too close a magnifying glass to these types of things. Grimlock is a solid toy that looks good and plays fun. He is a brilliant re-tool of an older toy, and a genius re-use of that mold. And, if scale is a thing for you, he goes SOOOO well the Warrior Class figures. Big! Like Gimlock ought to be.
Roll out Strongarm!
Credit(s): Cobotron
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Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737355)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 27th, 2015 @ 11:12pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 27th, 2015 @ 11:12pm CDT
Thanks for the review! That is a marvelous retool and pretty dang impressive. 
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737358)
Posted by william-james88 on October 27th, 2015 @ 11:14pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on October 27th, 2015 @ 11:14pm CDT
Just an idea but could it be that the reason he is geared towards interaction with decepticon minicons is because he is a decepticon?
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737359)
Posted by Cobotron on October 27th, 2015 @ 11:23pm CDT
Posted by Cobotron on October 27th, 2015 @ 11:23pm CDT
My pleasure D! 
Will, that had occured to me, but he has that blazing on his shoulder. I wonder if Takara has "different" plans for the minicons.
Edit: Oh and BTW, there is no mention of minicons in the instructions. By mention, I mean pictures. Unfortunately I don't read Japanese.
Will, that had occured to me, but he has that blazing
on his shoulder. I wonder if Takara has "different" plans for the minicons.Edit: Oh and BTW, there is no mention of minicons in the instructions. By mention, I mean pictures. Unfortunately I don't read Japanese.
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737361)
Posted by no-one on October 27th, 2015 @ 11:33pm CDT
Posted by no-one on October 27th, 2015 @ 11:33pm CDT
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737362)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 27th, 2015 @ 11:34pm CDT
maybe, or maybe they didn't think about how the autobot ones were designed
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 27th, 2015 @ 11:34pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Just an idea but could it be that the reason he is geared towards interaction with decepticon minicons is because he is a decepticon?
maybe, or maybe they didn't think about how the autobot ones were designed
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737364)
Posted by Cobotron on October 27th, 2015 @ 11:39pm CDT
Posted by Cobotron on October 27th, 2015 @ 11:39pm CDT
Cary, you win the prize! 
I didn't even see it until I was editing the pics. I decided to run with it.
The preexisting 5mm ports on the shoulders aren't helping the mini s from tabbing in either.
I didn't even see it until I was editing the pics. I decided to run with it.
The preexisting 5mm ports on the shoulders aren't helping the mini
s from tabbing in either.
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737365)
Posted by no-one on October 27th, 2015 @ 11:41pm CDT
Posted by no-one on October 27th, 2015 @ 11:41pm CDT
Do I get a cookie? I really hope it's a cookie!Cobotron wrote:Cary, you win the prize!
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737366)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 27th, 2015 @ 11:45pm CDT
Kinda like how Universe Dinobot had both Maximal and Predcon symbols despite his being Maximal-aligned for most of the BW cartoon.
Posted by Sabrblade on October 27th, 2015 @ 11:45pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Just an idea but could it be that the reason he is geared towards interaction with decepticon minicons is because he is a decepticon?
He used to be a Con, though, so it could possibly be a subtle nod to his original roots.Cobotron wrote:Will, that had occured to me, but he has that blazing
Kinda like how Universe Dinobot had both Maximal and Predcon symbols despite his being Maximal-aligned for most of the BW cartoon.
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737382)
Posted by fenrir72 on October 28th, 2015 @ 1:40am CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on October 28th, 2015 @ 1:40am CDT
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737388)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 28th, 2015 @ 4:19am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 28th, 2015 @ 4:19am CDT
That Grimlock is AWESOME!
I'm still gonna pass though. The 3 steps fill the role aplenty for me.
I'm still gonna pass though. The 3 steps fill the role aplenty for me.
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737389)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on October 28th, 2015 @ 4:23am CDT
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on October 28th, 2015 @ 4:23am CDT
I don't like the aesthetic much (or the horribly dorky robot face especially on the box art) but I appreciate how the work gone into retooling the really disappointing FoC Grimlock mold into this. The dino mode looks far better (despite the goofy jaw)
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737397)
Posted by Robogeek1973 on October 28th, 2015 @ 7:11am CDT
Posted by Robogeek1973 on October 28th, 2015 @ 7:11am CDT
I can't wait for mine to get here!
Now if only HLJ would hurry up and get their stock in so they could ship it.
Now if only HLJ would hurry up and get their stock in so they could ship it.
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737401)
Posted by ScottyP on October 28th, 2015 @ 8:15am CDT
Posted by ScottyP on October 28th, 2015 @ 8:15am CDT
Ugh, I know. At this rate it's gonna be coming in my shipment with Tracks!Robogeek1973 wrote:I can't wait for mine to get here!
Now if only HLJ would hurry up and get their stock in so they could ship it.
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737402)
Posted by william-james88 on October 28th, 2015 @ 8:21am CDT
Any reason HLJ gets their stuff later than Amiami ?
Posted by william-james88 on October 28th, 2015 @ 8:21am CDT
ScottyP wrote:Ugh, I know. At this rate it's gonna be coming in my shipment with Tracks!Robogeek1973 wrote:I can't wait for mine to get here!
Now if only HLJ would hurry up and get their stock in so they could ship it.
Any reason HLJ gets their stuff later than Amiami ?
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737438)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 28th, 2015 @ 12:11pm CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 28th, 2015 @ 12:11pm CDT
I just figured they wanted to integrate the mini-cons into the main line to give them a reason for existing, like with super o/p - except that they aren't selling any of the individual mini-cons...
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737462)
Posted by Flashwave on October 28th, 2015 @ 1:17pm CDT
Posted by Flashwave on October 28th, 2015 @ 1:17pm CDT
Can't wait. I missed the Pre-Orders, one of them due to my own stupidity, so I ordered him from Amazon. Should be here in two weeks...
Woth the remold, does he have Hips? And Or can you move his legs on the arm swivel? I hated that on the FOC mold, to get leg movement you had to utab the arm and partially transform it out to get clearence.
With the thicker body/spine and bigger head, is the chest gap and relatively small undercarraige noiceable, and is it worth it then to run out and find me a dragonus and repaint it?
What I love about this Grimmy, besides the character he represents, is he's not begging to be one of a (very expensive) set. And yes, the relative scale (Bug guys should be big, small guys not so much) IS nice.
Woth the remold, does he have Hips? And Or can you move his legs on the arm swivel? I hated that on the FOC mold, to get leg movement you had to utab the arm and partially transform it out to get clearence.
With the thicker body/spine and bigger head, is the chest gap and relatively small undercarraige noiceable, and is it worth it then to run out and find me a dragonus and repaint it?
What I love about this Grimmy, besides the character he represents, is he's not begging to be one of a (very expensive) set. And yes, the relative scale (Bug guys should be big, small guys not so much) IS nice.
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737488)
Posted by Cobotron on October 28th, 2015 @ 2:38pm CDT
Posted by Cobotron on October 28th, 2015 @ 2:38pm CDT
It's similar, but works better. The hips still tab to the torso, but when untabbed it looks better. The inside of the shoulder is sculpted to kind of hide the the joints and hinges. It doesn't look like his leg is dislocated.Flashwave wrote:CWoth the remold, does he have Hips? And Or can you move his legs on the arm swivel? I hated that on the FOC mold, to get leg movement you had to utab the arm and partially transform it out to get clearence.
It is noticeable, but because it's black inside there it kind of helps obscure it all better. You might not need to repaint Dragonus. His green is almost a dead-on match with Grim's green. Unless you want him black. The other minicons fit down there too.With the thicker body/spine and bigger head, is the chest gap and relatively small undercarraige noiceable, and is it worth it then to run out and find me a dragonus and repaint it?
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737535)
Posted by Robogeek1973 on October 28th, 2015 @ 6:14pm CDT
Usually they get their stuff around the same time, but this time HLJ is late with Grimmy, Rumble, and Frenzy.
No idea why.
Posted by Robogeek1973 on October 28th, 2015 @ 6:14pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:ScottyP wrote:Ugh, I know. At this rate it's gonna be coming in my shipment with Tracks!Robogeek1973 wrote:I can't wait for mine to get here!
Now if only HLJ would hurry up and get their stock in so they could ship it.
Any reason HLJ gets their stuff later than Amiami ?
Usually they get their stuff around the same time, but this time HLJ is late with Grimmy, Rumble, and Frenzy.
No idea why.
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737671)
Posted by Va'al on October 29th, 2015 @ 9:39am CDT
Posted by Va'al on October 29th, 2015 @ 9:39am CDT
Usual suspect and Japan resident Matt Daniele has sent along some in hand images of the latest releases in the Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure - TAV 32 Rumble and Frenzy! The two-pack also included a 'not for sale' addition of the clear campaign Sideswipe figure, and Matt was nice enough to show the cannon features in the mirrored images below. Check them out.
Found this 2 pack at my local electronics shop for ¥2,975($24.73). It even came with a free mini figure of clear Sideswipe. (marked not for sale in Japanese).
The last picture shows the spring loaded cannons you can deploy by hitting the silver button above the tank treads.
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737672)
Posted by Cobotron on October 29th, 2015 @ 9:52am CDT
Posted by Cobotron on October 29th, 2015 @ 9:52am CDT
I wish we could get those awesome premiums/freebies. Love me some clear guys.
I got these guys along with Grimlock and...
A. Didn't realize the guns were detachable. Cool! (thanks Matt)
B. Did the United release not have the spring loaded pile drivers?
I'm so glad Takara gave us a second chance to get these guys. They're GREAT!
I got these guys along with Grimlock and...
A. Didn't realize the guns were detachable. Cool! (thanks Matt)
B. Did the United release not have the spring loaded pile drivers?
I'm so glad Takara gave us a second chance to get these guys. They're GREAT!
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737673)
Posted by Flashwave on October 29th, 2015 @ 10:03am CDT
Oh buddy were tbey spring loaded. Blow on one from 30ft and SPROING! I think the TFSS Rewind and Eject triggers are a little stiffer at least, hope these are too
Posted by Flashwave on October 29th, 2015 @ 10:03am CDT
Cobotron wrote:I wish we could get those awesome premiums/freebies. Love me some clear guys.
I got these guys along with Grimlock and...
A. Didn't realize the guns were detachable. Cool! (thanks Matt)
B. Did the United release not have the spring loaded pile drivers?
I'm so glad Takara gave us a second chance to get these guys. They're GREAT!
Oh buddy were tbey spring loaded. Blow on one from 30ft and SPROING! I think the TFSS Rewind and Eject triggers are a little stiffer at least, hope these are too
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737675)
Posted by Cobotron on October 29th, 2015 @ 10:10am CDT
These are pretty itchy on the trigger finger too. Makes transforming them ... mildly frustrating, to say the least.
Still super great figures. Makes me really miss Scout Class.
Posted by Cobotron on October 29th, 2015 @ 10:10am CDT
Flashwave wrote:Cobotron wrote:I wish we could get those awesome premiums/freebies. Love me some clear guys.
I got these guys along with Grimlock and...
A. Didn't realize the guns were detachable. Cool! (thanks Matt)
B. Did the United release not have the spring loaded pile drivers?
I'm so glad Takara gave us a second chance to get these guys. They're GREAT!
Oh buddy were tbey spring loaded. Blow on one from 30ft and SPROING! I think the TFSS Rewind and Eject triggers are a little stiffer at least, hope these are too
These are pretty itchy on the trigger finger too. Makes transforming them ... mildly frustrating, to say the least.Still super great figures. Makes me really miss Scout Class.
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737676)
Posted by Janus Prime on October 29th, 2015 @ 10:13am CDT
Posted by Janus Prime on October 29th, 2015 @ 10:13am CDT
Ok, how many times has Takara reissued these toys? Maybe I'll be able to finally get them this time.
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737677)
Posted by william-james88 on October 29th, 2015 @ 10:13am CDT
So these are biger than the modern day legends right? If so, then sweet
Posted by william-james88 on October 29th, 2015 @ 10:13am CDT
Cobotron wrote:Flashwave wrote:Cobotron wrote:I wish we could get those awesome premiums/freebies. Love me some clear guys.
I got these guys along with Grimlock and...
A. Didn't realize the guns were detachable. Cool! (thanks Matt)
B. Did the United release not have the spring loaded pile drivers?
I'm so glad Takara gave us a second chance to get these guys. They're GREAT!
Oh buddy were tbey spring loaded. Blow on one from 30ft and SPROING! I think the TFSS Rewind and Eject triggers are a little stiffer at least, hope these are too
Still super great figures. Makes me really miss Scout Class.
So these are biger than the modern day legends right? If so, then sweet
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737679)
Posted by william-james88 on October 29th, 2015 @ 10:17am CDT
This is the first time they ever reissued the toys. Whats crazy is that these are actually hasbro designs for the reveal the shield line, and not takara in house products.
Posted by william-james88 on October 29th, 2015 @ 10:17am CDT
Janus Prime wrote:Ok, how many times has Takara reissued these toys? Maybe I'll be able to finally get them this time.
This is the first time they ever reissued the toys. Whats crazy is that these are actually hasbro designs for the reveal the shield line, and not takara in house products.
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737680)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 29th, 2015 @ 10:18am CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 29th, 2015 @ 10:18am CDT
So did we ever find out why hasbro never released these guys 
I mean, they look cool, and if I found them in the wild, I would buy one of them, but I won't pay $30+ for 2 of them
Plus with the upcoming release of the cassettes again (they were just released in foc) I don't see why hasbro would ever have a reason to release these guys
I mean, they look cool, and if I found them in the wild, I would buy one of them, but I won't pay $30+ for 2 of them
Plus with the upcoming release of the cassettes again (they were just released in foc) I don't see why hasbro would ever have a reason to release these guys
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737681)
Posted by Cobotron on October 29th, 2015 @ 10:19am CDT
Posted by Cobotron on October 29th, 2015 @ 10:19am CDT
Yes. I believe these and Windcharger/Wipe-out were the last of the true Scouts.william-james88 wrote:So these are biger than the modern day legends right? If so, then sweet
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737683)
Posted by Flashwave on October 29th, 2015 @ 10:22am CDT
Posted by Flashwave on October 29th, 2015 @ 10:22am CDT
Same height as the CW Armor/gun guys, Groove and Blackjack and Bombshell, but a little bulkier.william-james88 wrote:Janus Prime wrote:Ok, how many times has Takara reissued these toys? Maybe I'll be able to finally get them this time.
This is the first time they ever reissued the toys. Whats crazy is that these are actually hasbro designs for the reveal the shield line, and not takara in house products.
the scout class lives on, it just got more expensive and simpler. The worst part I think about that spring is more to do with that button being over the tab that attaches his pile xrivrr to his chest. You want to press there to tab in but when you do tbe back half of the tank takes off.Cobotron wrote:Flashwave wrote:Cobotron wrote:I wish we could get those awesome premiums/freebies. Love me some clear guys.
I got these guys along with Grimlock and...
A. Didn't realize the guns were detachable. Cool! (thanks Matt)
B. Did the United release not have the spring loaded pile drivers?
I'm so glad Takara gave us a second chance to get these guys. They're GREAT!
Oh buddy were tbey spring loaded. Blow on one from 30ft and SPROING! I think the TFSS Rewind and Eject triggers are a little stiffer at least, hope these are too
Still super great figures. Makes me really miss Scout Class.
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737685)
Posted by Agamemnon on October 29th, 2015 @ 10:23am CDT
Yup, I was going to say the same thing:
Though when I put Legends Starscream and Swerve near them, they are not that much smaller than Frumble...
Posted by Agamemnon on October 29th, 2015 @ 10:23am CDT
Cobotron wrote:Yes. I believe these and Windcharger/Wipe-out were the last of the true Scouts.william-james88 wrote:So these are biger than the modern day legends right? If so, then sweet
Yup, I was going to say the same thing:
Though when I put Legends Starscream and Swerve near them, they are not that much smaller than Frumble...
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737686)
Posted by Flashwave on October 29th, 2015 @ 10:25am CDT
Timing. They were tail end of a line before a movie.
And really, its 10ea for the modern day scouts, 15ea from Takara is not so outta line. But I agree, I would rather bave gotten them domestically priced
Posted by Flashwave on October 29th, 2015 @ 10:25am CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:So did we ever find out why hasbro never released these guys
I mean, they look cool, and if I found them in the wild, I would buy one of them, but I won't pay $30+ for 2 of them
Plus with the upcoming release of the cassettes again (they were just released in foc) I don't see why hasbro would ever have a reason to release these guys
Timing. They were tail end of a line before a movie.
And really, its 10ea for the modern day scouts, 15ea from Takara is not so outta line. But I agree, I would rather bave gotten them domestically priced
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Posted by william-james88 on October 29th, 2015 @ 10:28am CDT
Yes, we did find out. Stores opted to go for the new DOTM line instead of the 5th wave of scouts for the Transformers 2010 line. So the wave was discontinued. They werent the only ones, Downshift and Bodyblock were also discontinued. Interesting though, Frenzy (in red) was never gonna be released anyway in the states, even if we would have gotten that last wave with the (blue) Rumble.
Also, if you took the initial preorder, they only came out to 25$ shipping included.
And you are right, hasbro has no reason to ever release them. But the club released them redone as the autobot casettes so that it cant be said the mold was never released stateside (just like with the Prime Breakdown mold)
Posted by william-james88 on October 29th, 2015 @ 10:28am CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:So did we ever find out why hasbro never released these guys
I mean, they look cool, and if I found them in the wild, I would buy one of them, but I won't pay $30+ for 2 of them
Plus with the upcoming release of the cassettes again (they were just released in foc) I don't see why hasbro would ever have a reason to release these guys
Yes, we did find out. Stores opted to go for the new DOTM line instead of the 5th wave of scouts for the Transformers 2010 line. So the wave was discontinued. They werent the only ones, Downshift and Bodyblock were also discontinued. Interesting though, Frenzy (in red) was never gonna be released anyway in the states, even if we would have gotten that last wave with the (blue) Rumble.
Also, if you took the initial preorder, they only came out to 25$ shipping included.
And you are right, hasbro has no reason to ever release them. But the club released them redone as the autobot casettes so that it cant be said the mold was never released stateside (just like with the Prime Breakdown mold)
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Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 29th, 2015 @ 10:30am CDT
Before a movie? Did the rotf sub-lines really last all the way up to dotm?
The problem is price for figures I don't want that badly, but more, that I don't need two of this figure, let alone at import prices, had it been a 2-pack here, I would've probably gotten it, but I would have much preferred them to have been individually offered state-side
Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 29th, 2015 @ 10:30am CDT
Flashwave wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:So did we ever find out why hasbro never released these guys
I mean, they look cool, and if I found them in the wild, I would buy one of them, but I won't pay $30+ for 2 of them
Plus with the upcoming release of the cassettes again (they were just released in foc) I don't see why hasbro would ever have a reason to release these guys
Timing. They were tail end of a line before a movie.
And really, its 10ea for the modern day scouts, 15ea from Takara is not so outta line. But I agree, I would rather bave gotten them domestically priced
Before a movie? Did the rotf sub-lines really last all the way up to dotm?
The problem is price for figures I don't want that badly, but more, that I don't need two of this figure, let alone at import prices, had it been a 2-pack here, I would've probably gotten it, but I would have much preferred them to have been individually offered state-side
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Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 29th, 2015 @ 10:32am CDT
Technically it wasn't 'released' it was 'sent' to people who paid $300+ for the club set.
Sorry, I don't count club exclusives as anything; at those prices, I could buy multiple figures I care about way more - I know one was a freebie, but you had to pay for the set anyways
Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 29th, 2015 @ 10:32am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:So did we ever find out why hasbro never released these guys
I mean, they look cool, and if I found them in the wild, I would buy one of them, but I won't pay $30+ for 2 of them
Plus with the upcoming release of the cassettes again (they were just released in foc) I don't see why hasbro would ever have a reason to release these guys
Yes, we did find out. Stores opted to go for the new DOTM line instead of the 5th wave of scouts for the Transformers 2010 line. So the wave was discontinued. They werent the only ones, Downshift and Bodyblock were also discontinued. Interesting though, Frenzy (in red) was never gonna be released anyway in the states, even if we would have gotten that last wave with the (blue) Rumble.
Also, if you took the initial preorder, they only came out to 25$ shipping included.
And you are right, hasbro has no reason to ever release them. But the club released them redone as the autobot casettes so that it cant be said the mold was never released stateside (just like with the Prime Breakdown mold)
Technically it wasn't 'released' it was 'sent' to people who paid $300+ for the club set.
Sorry, I don't count club exclusives as anything; at those prices, I could buy multiple figures I care about way more - I know one was a freebie, but you had to pay for the set anyways
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737691)
Posted by Cobotron on October 29th, 2015 @ 10:37am CDT
Posted by Cobotron on October 29th, 2015 @ 10:37am CDT
Just for fun, here is another looky-lu.
The Usual Suspects
For some reason, in my mind, the Legend class seems smaller. Just proved myself wrong. Way to go me. I think Wipe-out/WC is just a little bigger than most.
The Usual Suspects
For some reason, in my mind, the Legend class seems smaller. Just proved myself wrong. Way to go me. I think Wipe-out/WC is just a little bigger than most.
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737692)
Posted by Mkall on October 29th, 2015 @ 10:38am CDT
Posted by Mkall on October 29th, 2015 @ 10:38am CDT
I have these two from the United line and I love them so much I can't willingly part with them even though by my collecting rules, I should do so.
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737694)
Posted by william-james88 on October 29th, 2015 @ 10:39am CDT
Not really, Between ROTF and DOTM there was the Transformers line which was a lot like today's generations line. It was made to celebrate the Brand as a whole and included (like Generations), external media toys (in this case the movies), G1 reissues and toys for a Classics collection. However, the distinction between this line and a standard movie line was not big enough that stores thought they could coexist (unlike today) so since it was seen as between movie lines, it was flushed as soon as the next movie came along.
Posted by william-james88 on October 29th, 2015 @ 10:39am CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Before a movie? Did the rotf sub-lines really last all the way up to dotm?
Not really, Between ROTF and DOTM there was the Transformers line which was a lot like today's generations line. It was made to celebrate the Brand as a whole and included (like Generations), external media toys (in this case the movies), G1 reissues and toys for a Classics collection. However, the distinction between this line and a standard movie line was not big enough that stores thought they could coexist (unlike today) so since it was seen as between movie lines, it was flushed as soon as the next movie came along.
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737701)
Posted by Flashwave on October 29th, 2015 @ 11:00am CDT
Posted by Flashwave on October 29th, 2015 @ 11:00am CDT
I rolled outta bed for this stalemate. One more size comparison
"Stalemate"
"Stalemate"
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737707)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 29th, 2015 @ 11:24am CDT
I know there was hftd and reveal the shield, and then there was the one with wreckgar and perceptor, right? Who was released/planned for release alongside them, as the entire series blends together between those movies for me...
Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 29th, 2015 @ 11:24am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:
Before a movie? Did the rotf sub-lines really last all the way up to dotm?
Not really, Between ROTF and DOTM there was the Transformers line which was a lot like today's generations line. It was made to celebrate the Brand as a whole and included (like Generations), external media toys (in this case the movies), G1 reissues and toys for a Classics collection. However, the distinction between this line and a standard movie line was not big enough that stores thought they could coexist (unlike today) so since it was seen as between movie lines, it was flushed as soon as the next movie came along.
I know there was hftd and reveal the shield, and then there was the one with wreckgar and perceptor, right? Who was released/planned for release alongside them, as the entire series blends together between those movies for me...
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737708)
Posted by mooncake623 on October 29th, 2015 @ 11:25am CDT
Posted by mooncake623 on October 29th, 2015 @ 11:25am CDT
TakaraTomy designer Hisashi Yuki tweeted out via TFYUKI, new images of the upcoming Transformers Adventure Optimus Prime Supreme Mode. This Prime will be a retool of the TAV21 Optimus Prime released earlier with retooled parts and a new sword. TAV33 Optimus Prime Supreme Mode is due to be released in November. Check out the images we've mirroed below and remember keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates, plus the best galleries around!
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737710)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 29th, 2015 @ 11:31am CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 29th, 2015 @ 11:31am CDT
Wow, that is a beat stick 
Man, TT should start selling weapons like that for CW and such individually - shame 3p's forgot that was kinda their job, I could use some weapons packs
Man, TT should start selling weapons like that for CW and such individually - shame 3p's forgot that was kinda their job, I could use some weapons packs
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737714)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 29th, 2015 @ 11:48am CDT
The line that came after ROTF was simply called "Transformers", though many refer to it as "Hunt for the Decepticons" due to the sticker the packaging bore that advertised a promotional online game that went by that name. The line contained primarily Movieverse toys, but would later incorporate some Classics/Generations-style figures as well, by which point the toyline would evolve into its subline imprint of "Transformers: Reveal the Shield".
In Japan, the line contained Movieverse toys only and was instead known as "Transformers: Autobot Alliance", which is believed to have been an early working name for the English line, as store listings and receipts referred to the line as such despite that name not being the final one (in the English line, that is).
Posted by Sabrblade on October 29th, 2015 @ 11:48am CDT
Wreck-Gar and Perceptor were Reveal the Shield toys.Hellscream9999 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:
Before a movie? Did the rotf sub-lines really last all the way up to dotm?
Not really, Between ROTF and DOTM there was the Transformers line which was a lot like today's generations line. It was made to celebrate the Brand as a whole and included (like Generations), external media toys (in this case the movies), G1 reissues and toys for a Classics collection. However, the distinction between this line and a standard movie line was not big enough that stores thought they could coexist (unlike today) so since it was seen as between movie lines, it was flushed as soon as the next movie came along.
I know there was hftd and reveal the shield, and then there was the one with wreckgar and perceptor, right? Who was released/planned for release alongside them, as the entire series blends together between those movies for me...
The line that came after ROTF was simply called "Transformers", though many refer to it as "Hunt for the Decepticons" due to the sticker the packaging bore that advertised a promotional online game that went by that name. The line contained primarily Movieverse toys, but would later incorporate some Classics/Generations-style figures as well, by which point the toyline would evolve into its subline imprint of "Transformers: Reveal the Shield".
In Japan, the line contained Movieverse toys only and was instead known as "Transformers: Autobot Alliance", which is believed to have been an early working name for the English line, as store listings and receipts referred to the line as such despite that name not being the final one (in the English line, that is).
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737722)
Posted by YoungPrime on October 29th, 2015 @ 12:07pm CDT
Posted by YoungPrime on October 29th, 2015 @ 12:07pm CDT
Meh, never did like the scrawny legs on this mold plus the PE versions of these guys fit in with my collection a lot better anyway. So I don't need replacements. I would've grabbed a PE version of Rewind as well if he was around for a reasonable price. So I guess I will grab that Titan Master version when it releases next year. TM Rumble and Frenzy will be a pass though.
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737724)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 29th, 2015 @ 12:11pm CDT
So I was right, it was a bloated blurr of unnamed sub-lines
Glad to have gotten it straightened out though
Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 29th, 2015 @ 12:11pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Wreck-Gar and Perceptor were Reveal the Shield toys.Hellscream9999 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:
Before a movie? Did the rotf sub-lines really last all the way up to dotm?
Not really, Between ROTF and DOTM there was the Transformers line which was a lot like today's generations line. It was made to celebrate the Brand as a whole and included (like Generations), external media toys (in this case the movies), G1 reissues and toys for a Classics collection. However, the distinction between this line and a standard movie line was not big enough that stores thought they could coexist (unlike today) so since it was seen as between movie lines, it was flushed as soon as the next movie came along.
I know there was hftd and reveal the shield, and then there was the one with wreckgar and perceptor, right? Who was released/planned for release alongside them, as the entire series blends together between those movies for me...
The line that came after ROTF was simply called "Transformers", though many refer to it as "Hunt for the Decepticons" due to the sticker the packaging bore that advertised a promotional online game that went by that name. The line contained primarily Movieverse toys, but would later incorporate some Classics/Generations-style figures as well, by which point the toyline would evolve into its subline imprint of "Transformers: Reveal the Shield".
In Japan, the line contained Movieverse toys only and was instead known as "Transformers: Autobot Alliance", which is believed to have been an early working name for the English line, as store listings and receipts referred to the line as such despite that name not being the final one (in the English line, that is).
So I was right, it was a bloated blurr of unnamed sub-lines
Glad to have gotten it straightened out though
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737727)
Posted by Shuttershock on October 29th, 2015 @ 12:13pm CDT
Posted by Shuttershock on October 29th, 2015 @ 12:13pm CDT
Just in case you thought Arcee's Combiner Hunters sword was too soberly proportioned...
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737731)
Posted by mooncake623 on October 29th, 2015 @ 12:35pm CDT
PE rewind doesn't even have a face... the Titan Master's version looks a million times better.
Posted by mooncake623 on October 29th, 2015 @ 12:35pm CDT
YoungPrime wrote:Meh, never did like the scrawny legs on this mold plus the PE versions of these guys fit in with my collection a lot better anyway. So I don't need replacements. I would've grabbed a PE version of Rewind as well if he was around for a reasonable price. So I guess I will grab that Titan Master version when it releases next year. TM Rumble and Frenzy will be a pass though.
PE rewind doesn't even have a face... the Titan Master's version looks a million times better.
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737755)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 29th, 2015 @ 1:24pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 29th, 2015 @ 1:24pm CDT
Looks amazing! And this is a massive sword there bub
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737770)
Posted by AutobotAlvaron on October 29th, 2015 @ 1:49pm CDT
Posted by AutobotAlvaron on October 29th, 2015 @ 1:49pm CDT
This Takara TAV Prime, with all that chrome, and cool-looking sword is miles ahead of anything Hasbro has yet to produce for the US market. If this mold were brought here, and had Peter Cullen voice clips & appropriate SFX, it would be sure to sell out & produce good profit for them. Why not do that?
The only other changes I'd make to it, would be to put in G1-cartoon blue or G1-toy yellow LEDs in the head & chest, and not use a plain black plastic for his legs/trailer, but a sparkly metallic midnight blue instead. It's hard to believe that there is no real, properly-articulated, & non-1-2-3 Step Changer, Voyager or Leader Class Optimus Prime in the U.S.A. RID line. Why not?
The only other changes I'd make to it, would be to put in G1-cartoon blue or G1-toy yellow LEDs in the head & chest, and not use a plain black plastic for his legs/trailer, but a sparkly metallic midnight blue instead. It's hard to believe that there is no real, properly-articulated, & non-1-2-3 Step Changer, Voyager or Leader Class Optimus Prime in the U.S.A. RID line. Why not?
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737788)
Posted by Nemesis Destron on October 29th, 2015 @ 2:11pm CDT
Posted by Nemesis Destron on October 29th, 2015 @ 2:11pm CDT
This guy is epic! It will be one of the few from this line that I will own. I can't wait til this is finally available.
I don't see this as OP really. Any ideas or suggestions this figure can represent?
If none then I will have to dub him with a new name.
I don't see this as OP really. Any ideas or suggestions this figure can represent?
If none then I will have to dub him with a new name.
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737790)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 29th, 2015 @ 2:13pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 29th, 2015 @ 2:13pm CDT
This toy a remold of the previous version that already had blue legs.AutobotAlvaron wrote:The only other changes I'd make to it, would be to put in G1-cartoon blue or G1-toy yellow LEDs in the head & chest, and not use a plain black plastic for his legs/trailer, but a sparkly metallic midnight blue instead. It's hard to believe that there is no real, properly-articulated, & non-1-2-3 Step Changer, Voyager or Leader Class Optimus Prime in the U.S.A. RID line. Why not?
Re: Image review of Takara Transformers TAV30 Battle Grimlock (Minicon Interaction and Comparisons) (1737808)
Posted by AutobotAlvaron on October 29th, 2015 @ 2:29pm CDT
Thanks for the reference pic Sabrblade, though I already knew about that version. I prefer this newer mold with the chrome and additional sword, but I've never liked substituting black for blue on non-Nemesis Prime/Dark Convoy figures. Blue, even the darkest midnight-blue is my preference for use with "Super" Optimus figures.
I also disliked TF:Cybertron Leader "Galaxy Force" Optimus Prime's color for that same reason. Darker-shaded, clear-plastic, metallic-painted, or color-chromed (i.e. Primal Prime) variations of Optimus' classic red/blue/silver color-scheme are what I like best for his upgrades.
Posted by AutobotAlvaron on October 29th, 2015 @ 2:29pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:This toy a remold of the previous version that already had blue legs.AutobotAlvaron wrote:The only other changes I'd make to it, would be to put in G1-cartoon blue or G1-toy yellow LEDs in the head & chest, and not use a plain black plastic for his legs/trailer, but a sparkly metallic midnight blue instead. It's hard to believe that there is no real, properly-articulated, & non-1-2-3 Step Changer, Voyager or Leader Class Optimus Prime in the U.S.A. RID line. Why not?
Thanks for the reference pic Sabrblade, though I already knew about that version. I prefer this newer mold with the chrome and additional sword, but I've never liked substituting black for blue on non-Nemesis Prime/Dark Convoy figures. Blue, even the darkest midnight-blue is my preference for use with "Super" Optimus figures.
I also disliked TF:Cybertron Leader "Galaxy Force" Optimus Prime's color for that same reason. Darker-shaded, clear-plastic, metallic-painted, or color-chromed (i.e. Primal Prime) variations of Optimus' classic red/blue/silver color-scheme are what I like best for his upgrades.
