Top 5 Most Show Accurate Transformers Toylines
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Every two weeks, Seibertron.com brings you a Top 5 list related to all things Transformers written by me, your fellow editor. These are my opinions (just like movie or game reviews hosted by sites are still just the opinion of one person) so what matters most is what you guys think of the topic or list, and I hope to see your own lists or comments on omissions and ranking. Let's have fun! All previous lists can be found here. Thanks to fellow staff member Kurona for helping me with this one, along with fellow Seibertronian TK415 for helping me shape this list.
Top 5 Most Show Accurate Transformers Toylines
This list has been mulling in my head for quite sometime. I always find it hard when a list is a tad bit lest subjective since it means there are measures that have to be clear rather than it simply being "I think this toy is awesome while this one blows". However, this idea of comparing the toys we get with what we see on screen is a longstanding theme in this brand and it's a request I get quite a bit. Now, to make it more diverse and add some variety, I have chosen to deal with this subject of screen accuracy while looking at toylines rather than the individual toys themselves. Feel free to discuss which toys within the mentioned (or unmentioned) toylines you find superior to others in terms of accuracy though, it should make for a fun discussion. Now off with the list!
5. Robots in Disguise 2001 (Car Robots)
Transformers Prime was supposed to take this spot at first, especially since the RID line still had the defacto inaccuracies that come with using G1 toys to represent your show characters. But you know what, I realized the Prime line had less to offer for show accuracy. Sure, there were some heavy hitters, but then you realize that Hasbro never gave us anything close to a screen accurate Voyager Megatron, none of the black Beast Hunter Bees had the right paint scheme, neither Arcee really looked like the character model (which I admit is hard to pull off) and the crappier Cliffjumper toy was the one with the screen accurate legs.
And then there is RID, a show that went out of its way to show us all the wonderful modes Megatron had, including the hand mode and griffin mode. All the new molds made for RID, such as Optimus, Railracer and the brothers had toys which seemed to jump off the screen. And while Ruination's proportions were off as expected, the colours were well represented. And we finally got to see some of those Beast Wars molds in action on screen in North America and they looked great. And let's not forget Scourge whose toy looked a lot like the show model. I especially love the sticker detail being very similar to the details we see on the screen. Its these peculiar and recognizable details, like the chest stickers, found both onscreen and on the toy that drive home how good a representation you have of the badass you see on screen.
Transformers Robots In Disguise Prowl (Mach Alert) Gallery
Transformers Robots In Disguise Gas Skunk (Gaskunk) Gallery
4. Beast Wars Transmetals (Bast Wars Metals)
I remember very well being a kid and being turned off by those odd masks the first year Beast Wars toys had. They weren't on the show. And while the inner Rhinox head looked more like the show, it looked too small on the body so young WJ88 settled on that brutish face when making him exchange blows with his Bane action figure. But then in that second year line, Beast Wars Transmetal, it was as if you were holding the characters you saw onscreen in your very hands. And that is the first time that ever happened for the brand. Tarantulus and Cheetor looked perfect, so did Rampage and both faction leaders. Plus you had the gimmicks at work too, like the surfing gorilla and thruster t-rex. I would even throw in Quickstrike and Silverbolt who were released at the very same tie within the Fuzors subline. And it culminated with Optimal Optimus and Depthcharge which really looked the part. That dedication between toy and screen was not as impressive with what followed in Transmetal 2 where toys like Tigerhawk looked different and gimmicks not being carried through to the screen (like the rollerblading dragon, though I do understand). Plus there were many many toys that had no onscreen counterparts. And that worsened with Beast Machines. But man, Transmetal, those toys still hold up and I honestly don't see how much better those toys would be if they were released today.
3. Transformers Masterpiece 2.0
Yeah, if we are going to talk about the Masterpiece line and screen accuracy, you have to let go of all that came at the beginning. It didn't help that MP 01 Optimus Prime wasn't based on the G1 show model, and neither was Starscream, and that MP 05 Megatron was more of an homage to the G1 toy than the cartoon. But MP 10 came along and BAM, we got ourselves a gorgeous line with a unified scale that to this day keeps getting closer and closer to being as screen accurate as possible. It's not perfect, unlike the name would suggest, what with Red Alert still not getting the molding changes he deserves and Optimus not having a white crotch, plus the deal with Hot Rod's non show accurate backpack and extraneous bits. But then you have Bumblebee, Soundave, Shockwave, Ultra Magnus and Inferno who are just so striking in terms of show accuracy. Right down to the smooth surfaces devoid of sculpted detail and even stickers for Sunbow inspired Decepticon symbols in one case. It even got to the point where fans would rather the toys strive less for cartoon accuracy and go for a happy medium of detail and smooth surfaces. What that tells me is that this line is of course right at home on this list.
And here is a fun video I found. Sure, not everything it uses it official but it gives a good idea of how far we have come.
2. Transformers Animated
I will always be amazed at what the Animated line was able to pull off. For the fist time, we had character models created before the toys in a Transformers show and these designs had exaggerated features. They were not proportioned, with some having ultra sleek waists, bigger feet, huge chins and so on. This was a more heroic style found across the 2000's and it persists now, which can make for very dynamic animation. We know that worked for a show, but now you had to engineer toys out of them which was extra tricky since these exaggerated proportions were more present in the robot modes than the vehicle modes. But Hasbro found a way. They were able to make transforming toys which really did have those dynamic looks. That deluxe Prowl toy still fascinates me for being so sleek in both modes and yet having that elongated head and huge feet. He's an easy example to show but that goes for all toys which found a way to have animated features in robot mode that did not have vehicle kibble (like forearms and legs) while not turning them all into shellformers. Even if you don't like the designs, you have to admit that turning this into one of the most show accurate lines is quite a feat.
1. Transformers Cybertron (Galaxy Force)
While Armada was naturally very toy-accurate and if you got an Armada toy just to get something that looked like what you saw on the show... well, unless you got Sideswipe, you wouldn't be terribly disappointed.
But Energon and Cybertron take it to whole new levels. The CGI models might as friggin' well just be the toys -- it gets to the extent that the models have the toy's buttons on them. The button you press on Cybertron Evac's toy to make his rotors turn? That's on his CGI model. Why is it there? What possible actual function would it serve to Evac as a character or soldier or disguise? Who the heck knows, but he has it.
Cybertron's toys are by far the most screen-accurate toys there have ever been because of how stupidly accurate to the toys Cybertron's animators were. Pretty much the only difference is in articulation for character expression (individual fingers moving, extra waist movement, that sort of thing). The Transformations were replicated too, which makes it even better!
Transformers Cybertron Optimus Prime (Galaxy Convoy) Gallery
Transformers Cybertron Hot Shot (Excellion) Gallery
Top 5 Most Show Accurate Transformers Toylines
This list has been mulling in my head for quite sometime. I always find it hard when a list is a tad bit lest subjective since it means there are measures that have to be clear rather than it simply being "I think this toy is awesome while this one blows". However, this idea of comparing the toys we get with what we see on screen is a longstanding theme in this brand and it's a request I get quite a bit. Now, to make it more diverse and add some variety, I have chosen to deal with this subject of screen accuracy while looking at toylines rather than the individual toys themselves. Feel free to discuss which toys within the mentioned (or unmentioned) toylines you find superior to others in terms of accuracy though, it should make for a fun discussion. Now off with the list!
5. Robots in Disguise 2001 (Car Robots)
Transformers Prime was supposed to take this spot at first, especially since the RID line still had the defacto inaccuracies that come with using G1 toys to represent your show characters. But you know what, I realized the Prime line had less to offer for show accuracy. Sure, there were some heavy hitters, but then you realize that Hasbro never gave us anything close to a screen accurate Voyager Megatron, none of the black Beast Hunter Bees had the right paint scheme, neither Arcee really looked like the character model (which I admit is hard to pull off) and the crappier Cliffjumper toy was the one with the screen accurate legs.
And then there is RID, a show that went out of its way to show us all the wonderful modes Megatron had, including the hand mode and griffin mode. All the new molds made for RID, such as Optimus, Railracer and the brothers had toys which seemed to jump off the screen. And while Ruination's proportions were off as expected, the colours were well represented. And we finally got to see some of those Beast Wars molds in action on screen in North America and they looked great. And let's not forget Scourge whose toy looked a lot like the show model. I especially love the sticker detail being very similar to the details we see on the screen. Its these peculiar and recognizable details, like the chest stickers, found both onscreen and on the toy that drive home how good a representation you have of the badass you see on screen.
Transformers Robots In Disguise Prowl (Mach Alert) Gallery
Transformers Robots In Disguise Gas Skunk (Gaskunk) Gallery
4. Beast Wars Transmetals (Bast Wars Metals)
I remember very well being a kid and being turned off by those odd masks the first year Beast Wars toys had. They weren't on the show. And while the inner Rhinox head looked more like the show, it looked too small on the body so young WJ88 settled on that brutish face when making him exchange blows with his Bane action figure. But then in that second year line, Beast Wars Transmetal, it was as if you were holding the characters you saw onscreen in your very hands. And that is the first time that ever happened for the brand. Tarantulus and Cheetor looked perfect, so did Rampage and both faction leaders. Plus you had the gimmicks at work too, like the surfing gorilla and thruster t-rex. I would even throw in Quickstrike and Silverbolt who were released at the very same tie within the Fuzors subline. And it culminated with Optimal Optimus and Depthcharge which really looked the part. That dedication between toy and screen was not as impressive with what followed in Transmetal 2 where toys like Tigerhawk looked different and gimmicks not being carried through to the screen (like the rollerblading dragon, though I do understand). Plus there were many many toys that had no onscreen counterparts. And that worsened with Beast Machines. But man, Transmetal, those toys still hold up and I honestly don't see how much better those toys would be if they were released today.
3. Transformers Masterpiece 2.0
Yeah, if we are going to talk about the Masterpiece line and screen accuracy, you have to let go of all that came at the beginning. It didn't help that MP 01 Optimus Prime wasn't based on the G1 show model, and neither was Starscream, and that MP 05 Megatron was more of an homage to the G1 toy than the cartoon. But MP 10 came along and BAM, we got ourselves a gorgeous line with a unified scale that to this day keeps getting closer and closer to being as screen accurate as possible. It's not perfect, unlike the name would suggest, what with Red Alert still not getting the molding changes he deserves and Optimus not having a white crotch, plus the deal with Hot Rod's non show accurate backpack and extraneous bits. But then you have Bumblebee, Soundave, Shockwave, Ultra Magnus and Inferno who are just so striking in terms of show accuracy. Right down to the smooth surfaces devoid of sculpted detail and even stickers for Sunbow inspired Decepticon symbols in one case. It even got to the point where fans would rather the toys strive less for cartoon accuracy and go for a happy medium of detail and smooth surfaces. What that tells me is that this line is of course right at home on this list.
And here is a fun video I found. Sure, not everything it uses it official but it gives a good idea of how far we have come.
2. Transformers Animated
I will always be amazed at what the Animated line was able to pull off. For the fist time, we had character models created before the toys in a Transformers show and these designs had exaggerated features. They were not proportioned, with some having ultra sleek waists, bigger feet, huge chins and so on. This was a more heroic style found across the 2000's and it persists now, which can make for very dynamic animation. We know that worked for a show, but now you had to engineer toys out of them which was extra tricky since these exaggerated proportions were more present in the robot modes than the vehicle modes. But Hasbro found a way. They were able to make transforming toys which really did have those dynamic looks. That deluxe Prowl toy still fascinates me for being so sleek in both modes and yet having that elongated head and huge feet. He's an easy example to show but that goes for all toys which found a way to have animated features in robot mode that did not have vehicle kibble (like forearms and legs) while not turning them all into shellformers. Even if you don't like the designs, you have to admit that turning this into one of the most show accurate lines is quite a feat.
1. Transformers Cybertron (Galaxy Force)
While Armada was naturally very toy-accurate and if you got an Armada toy just to get something that looked like what you saw on the show... well, unless you got Sideswipe, you wouldn't be terribly disappointed.
But Energon and Cybertron take it to whole new levels. The CGI models might as friggin' well just be the toys -- it gets to the extent that the models have the toy's buttons on them. The button you press on Cybertron Evac's toy to make his rotors turn? That's on his CGI model. Why is it there? What possible actual function would it serve to Evac as a character or soldier or disguise? Who the heck knows, but he has it.
Cybertron's toys are by far the most screen-accurate toys there have ever been because of how stupidly accurate to the toys Cybertron's animators were. Pretty much the only difference is in articulation for character expression (individual fingers moving, extra waist movement, that sort of thing). The Transformations were replicated too, which makes it even better!
Transformers Cybertron Optimus Prime (Galaxy Convoy) Gallery
Transformers Cybertron Hot Shot (Excellion) Gallery
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Re: Top 5 Most Show Accurate Transformers Toylines (2024620)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 15th, 2019 @ 12:25am CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 15th, 2019 @ 12:25am CDT
Not bad. If I had a list, the only change I would make is replacing the MP line with Prime. Those figures were pretty good, especially the deluxes. I wouldn't include the MP line because like you said, some of the earlier pieces were way off the mark.
Re: Top 5 Most Show Accurate Transformers Toylines (2024621)
Posted by Stargrave on June 15th, 2019 @ 1:22am CDT
Posted by Stargrave on June 15th, 2019 @ 1:22am CDT
Bam ya got me. I’m like lalala Animated will take the cake lalala BaM! Got me. 
great call and great list dude another win. These are always the best, so much fun.
Thanks for the article and thanks for the extra touches on the MP stuff I’ve totally had MPs on the brain with all the Hound news this week.
great call and great list dude another win. These are always the best, so much fun.Thanks for the article and thanks for the extra touches on the MP stuff I’ve totally had MPs on the brain with all the Hound news this week.
Re: Top 5 Most Show Accurate Transformers Toylines (2024622)
Posted by Regimus Prime on June 15th, 2019 @ 1:39am CDT
Posted by Regimus Prime on June 15th, 2019 @ 1:39am CDT
I definitely would’ve substituted anyone of these lines, particularly MP for Transformers Prime. Especially with the way those Vehicon figures came out. Great army builders too. Awesome list though. 
Re: Top 5 Most Show Accurate Transformers Toylines (2024623)
Posted by Bumblevivisector on June 15th, 2019 @ 2:36am CDT
Well, I can think of one: Replace the original chrome with a variety that doesn't flake.
Could hardly agree more with this list. I even recall Toyfare Magazine once extolling Energon for its cartoon-accuracy, but by the end, that was probably just an unwelcome reminder of a cartoon many of us would just as soon forget. So Cybertron's accuracy to the sort-of-accidental-restart-toon FTW!!!
Posted by Bumblevivisector on June 15th, 2019 @ 2:36am CDT
william-james88 wrote:But man, Transmetal, those toys still hold up and I honestly don't see how much better those toys would be if they were released today.
Well, I can think of one: Replace the original chrome with a variety that doesn't flake.
Could hardly agree more with this list. I even recall Toyfare Magazine once extolling Energon for its cartoon-accuracy, but by the end, that was probably just an unwelcome reminder of a cartoon many of us would just as soon forget. So Cybertron's accuracy to the sort-of-accidental-restart-toon FTW!!!
Re: Top 5 Most Show Accurate Transformers Toylines (2024631)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 15th, 2019 @ 4:28am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 15th, 2019 @ 4:28am CDT
Fuzzy memory or lack of interest made me surprised to see RiD 2001 and Transmetals on this list. I did watched both shows. Guest they didn't had an impact on me.
The other 3 however, were sure to be. I wasn't sure of the order but yours is pretty much perfect.
MP 2.0 need some ironing out before being truly a "complete line" of show accurate toys. And IMO, the fact that each toys now cost a kidney and your first born make it lose points.
Animated was certainly a baffling line. With an awesome show and the toys to match. And most of these toys were absolutely fantastic. Too bad we got gimped out of that last season. I would really have liked to see Blackout out of Japan and a combining Animated Devastator...
And Cybertron? Not surprised it's #1. The accuracy is ridiculous to the point that ever the SCREW HOLES are present on the character models! Along Bayformers 2007 and Master Force, Galaxy Force was the show that brought me back to Transformers. Galaxy Force leader Optimus Prime was also my very first Ebay purchase and the very first Transformers I bought with my own money... as a 31 years old back in 2007. Man, time does fly!
The other 3 however, were sure to be. I wasn't sure of the order but yours is pretty much perfect.
MP 2.0 need some ironing out before being truly a "complete line" of show accurate toys. And IMO, the fact that each toys now cost a kidney and your first born make it lose points.
Animated was certainly a baffling line. With an awesome show and the toys to match. And most of these toys were absolutely fantastic. Too bad we got gimped out of that last season. I would really have liked to see Blackout out of Japan and a combining Animated Devastator...
And Cybertron? Not surprised it's #1. The accuracy is ridiculous to the point that ever the SCREW HOLES are present on the character models! Along Bayformers 2007 and Master Force, Galaxy Force was the show that brought me back to Transformers. Galaxy Force leader Optimus Prime was also my very first Ebay purchase and the very first Transformers I bought with my own money... as a 31 years old back in 2007. Man, time does fly!
Re: Top 5 Most Show Accurate Transformers Toylines (2024635)
Posted by Evil Eye on June 15th, 2019 @ 6:13am CDT
Posted by Evil Eye on June 15th, 2019 @ 6:13am CDT
Nice list! And good to see Animated still getting love 11 years later. That was one hell of a line, possibly one of my favourites (and easily my favourite Western TF cartoon with BW in close second). There's so many figures from the line I want- Lockdown, Oil Slick, Swindle and Prowl to name just a few. I will say that as accurate as the line was, I wouldn't mind some Generations or 3P figs based on Animated to either make characters who never got figures or to replace the few duds in the line (Lugnut for example- I know we have the stellar 2010 figure but an actual cartoon-styled Lugnut which is the right size would be awesome. Also Blitzwing.)
Re: Top 5 Most Show Accurate Transformers Toylines (2024636)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 15th, 2019 @ 6:27am CDT
Oilslick is one of the BEST bikeformer ever. Plus he's damn cheap. As for lockdown, he have been repainted a few times and that special Takara edition is surprisingly cheap too. Go get them already!
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 15th, 2019 @ 6:27am CDT
Black Hat wrote:There's so many figures from the line I want- Lockdown, Oil Slick, Swindle and Prowl to name just a few.
Oilslick is one of the BEST bikeformer ever. Plus he's damn cheap. As for lockdown, he have been repainted a few times and that special Takara edition is surprisingly cheap too. Go get them already!
Re: Top 5 Most Show Accurate Transformers Toylines (2024657)
Posted by Stargrave on June 15th, 2019 @ 12:04pm CDT
Posted by Stargrave on June 15th, 2019 @ 12:04pm CDT
You all crack me up
Jeez so many great memories you’re all taking me back the whole Lockdown Ratchet storyline was so boss.
Jeez so many great memories you’re all taking me back the whole Lockdown Ratchet storyline was so boss.
Re: Top 5 Most Show Accurate Transformers Toylines (2024663)
Posted by william-james88 on June 15th, 2019 @ 12:35pm CDT
For me, Prime was a contender but i judged it worse than MP (Airachnid anyone?). The fact that we never got a show accurate deco for season 1 voyager megs was enough to tip it in the favour of mp 2.0 for me.
Posted by william-james88 on June 15th, 2019 @ 12:35pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Not bad. If I had a list, the only change I would make is replacing the MP line with Prime. Those figures were pretty good, especially the deluxes. I wouldn't include the MP line because like you said, some of the earlier pieces were way off the mark.
For me, Prime was a contender but i judged it worse than MP (Airachnid anyone?). The fact that we never got a show accurate deco for season 1 voyager megs was enough to tip it in the favour of mp 2.0 for me.
Re: Top 5 Most Show Accurate Transformers Toylines (2024677)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 15th, 2019 @ 3:18pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 15th, 2019 @ 3:18pm CDT
So when you put MP on the list you were only referring to MP 2.0?william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Not bad. If I had a list, the only change I would make is replacing the MP line with Prime. Those figures were pretty good, especially the deluxes. I wouldn't include the MP line because like you said, some of the earlier pieces were way off the mark.
For me, Prime was a contender but i judged it worse than MP (Airachnid anyone?). The fact that we never got a show accurate deco for season 1 voyager megs was enough to tip it in the favour of mp 2.0 for me.
Re: Top 5 Most Show Accurate Transformers Toylines (2024678)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 15th, 2019 @ 3:22pm CDT
Yes, if we consider all the MPs post MP-10 as "MP 2.0".
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 15th, 2019 @ 3:22pm CDT
So when you put MP on the list you were only referring to MP 2.0?[/quote]Rodimus Prime wrote:
Yes, if we consider all the MPs post MP-10 as "MP 2.0".
Re: Top 5 Most Show Accurate Transformers Toylines (2024685)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 15th, 2019 @ 4:11pm CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 15th, 2019 @ 4:11pm CDT
Another strong list, although to be fair, RiD and Beast Wars were the only parts of the list I have ever owned. Those Car Robots TM 2 redecos are so garish 
The Transmetals however, were near flawless as a line in their accuracy. TM Rattrap still remains the anomaly though, all these years later.
The Transmetals however, were near flawless as a line in their accuracy. TM Rattrap still remains the anomaly though, all these years later.
Re: Top 5 Most Show Accurate Transformers Toylines (2024692)
Posted by william-james88 on June 15th, 2019 @ 5:23pm CDT
Isn't that what I wrote on the list?
Posted by william-james88 on June 15th, 2019 @ 5:23pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:So when you put MP on the list you were only referring to MP 2.0?william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Not bad. If I had a list, the only change I would make is replacing the MP line with Prime. Those figures were pretty good, especially the deluxes. I wouldn't include the MP line because like you said, some of the earlier pieces were way off the mark.
For me, Prime was a contender but i judged it worse than MP (Airachnid anyone?). The fact that we never got a show accurate deco for season 1 voyager megs was enough to tip it in the favour of mp 2.0 for me.
Isn't that what I wrote on the list?
Re: Top 5 Most Show Accurate Transformers Toylines (2024694)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 15th, 2019 @ 5:57pm CDT
Exactly. But who have the time to actually read articles? Only the headlines matter.
Welcome to current year.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 15th, 2019 @ 5:57pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Isn't that what I wrote on the list?
Exactly. But who have the time to actually read articles? Only the headlines matter.
Welcome to current year.
Re: Top 5 Most Show Accurate Transformers Toylines (2024703)
Posted by Stargrave on June 15th, 2019 @ 6:45pm CDT
Kanra you kill me sometimes
Posted by Stargrave on June 15th, 2019 @ 6:45pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:william-james88 wrote:Isn't that what I wrote on the list?
Exactly. But who have the time to actually read articles? Only the headlines matter.
Welcome to current year.
Kanra you kill me sometimes
Re: Top 5 Most Show Accurate Transformers Toylines (2024714)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 15th, 2019 @ 8:23pm CDT
Clickbait, smear campaigns and fake news. All thrive because of that unfortunate fact about the average joe's intellectual laziness. As if there's a massive outbreak of ADHD going on.
I, on the other hand, am an intellectual. I read every single words of every single articles I come across and I double check every sources twice for each of them.
I'm very efficient in using all 72 hours of the day.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 15th, 2019 @ 8:23pm CDT
00Stargrave00 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:william-james88 wrote:Isn't that what I wrote on the list?
Exactly. But who have the time to actually read articles? Only the headlines matter.
Welcome to current year.
Kanra you kill me sometimes
Clickbait, smear campaigns and fake news. All thrive because of that unfortunate fact about the average joe's intellectual laziness. As if there's a massive outbreak of ADHD going on.
I, on the other hand, am an intellectual. I read every single words of every single articles I come across and I double check every sources twice for each of them.
I'm very efficient in using all 72 hours of the day.
Re: Top 5 Most Show Accurate Transformers Toylines (2024726)
Posted by Ultra Markus on June 15th, 2019 @ 10:17pm CDT
Posted by Ultra Markus on June 15th, 2019 @ 10:17pm CDT
if you put Cybertron shouldn't the whole Unicron trilogy be on there?
Re: Top 5 Most Show Accurate Transformers Toylines (2024728)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 15th, 2019 @ 11:13pm CDT
Galaxy Force/Cybertron took it to the extreme by not only retaining the triggers for the toy gimmicks, but... Come on, look at this:
Any series that shows the underside of any vehicle, exactly like it is on the toy:
... deserves an award. RiD X-Brawn deserves an honorable mention in that department because in the cartoon his head would pop up in vehicle mode next to the driver, the position it's in on the toy.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 15th, 2019 @ 11:13pm CDT
Ultra Markus wrote:if you put Cybertron shouldn't the whole Unicron trilogy be on there?
Galaxy Force/Cybertron took it to the extreme by not only retaining the triggers for the toy gimmicks, but... Come on, look at this:
Any series that shows the underside of any vehicle, exactly like it is on the toy:
... deserves an award. RiD X-Brawn deserves an honorable mention in that department because in the cartoon his head would pop up in vehicle mode next to the driver, the position it's in on the toy.
Re: Top 5 Most Show Accurate Transformers Toylines (2024729)
Posted by william-james88 on June 15th, 2019 @ 11:20pm CDT
Well, I did include specifically him in the article. As for the Hot Shot, they even kept his robot head exposed in the undercarriage. Even the pic on seibertorn chose to turn his head around.
Posted by william-james88 on June 15th, 2019 @ 11:20pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:RiD X-Brawn deserves an honorable mention in that department because in the cartoon his head would pop up in vehicle mode next to the driver, the position it's in on the toy.
Well, I did include specifically him in the article. As for the Hot Shot, they even kept his robot head exposed in the undercarriage. Even the pic on seibertorn chose to turn his head around.
Re: Top 5 Most Show Accurate Transformers Toylines (2024731)
Posted by Emerje on June 15th, 2019 @ 11:45pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on June 15th, 2019 @ 11:45pm CDT
There's something unfair about including MP on the list. All of the other lines are general retail cheap kids toys with retail budgets that came out at the same time as their animated series while MP had the benefits of coming out decades later as adult collectibles with large budgets and equally large price tags. I really would have either put them at 5 or gone for something entirely different like Prime or Prime RID (despite their inconsistent toy/cartoon accuracies) or double dipped on the Unicron Trilogy and gone with Energon.
Otherwise the rest of the entries are where I would have expected them.
Emerje
Otherwise the rest of the entries are where I would have expected them.
Emerje
Re: Top 5 Most Show Accurate Transformers Toylines (2024733)
Posted by Stargrave on June 15th, 2019 @ 11:52pm CDT
Posted by Stargrave on June 15th, 2019 @ 11:52pm CDT
I think a, I don’t know if I’d say cool list, but compelling and thought provoking if it hasn’t been done would be the opposite like Ironhide and Ratchet what are some of the loosest artistic interpretations we’ve seen or some of the favorites I mean there’s most of the ‘86 movie line but lots of others we all couldn’t help but fall in love with enough to compensate or blind us to their toy incarnations shortcomings.
but lots of others we all couldn’t help but fall in love with enough to compensate or blind us to their toy incarnations shortcomings.
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Posted by william-james88 on June 15th, 2019 @ 11:56pm CDT
So, say it is your list, what is your actual top 5?
Posted by william-james88 on June 15th, 2019 @ 11:56pm CDT
Emerje wrote:I really would have either put them at 5 or gone for something entirely different like Prime or Prime RID (despite their inconsistent toy/cartoon accuracies) or double dipped on the Unicron Trilogy and gone with Energon.
Otherwise the rest of the entries are where I would have expected them.
Emerje
So, say it is your list, what is your actual top 5?
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Posted by Emerje on June 16th, 2019 @ 2:05am CDT
Probably the same as yours minus MP in its spot and the bottom two moved up. With some thought I think Energon should get the 5 spot. The cartoon went CG allowing the character designs to become more toy accurate. It helped that, unlike Armada, it didn't have a toy line with an obstructive gimmick and the Powerlinx gimmick was pretty spot on in the show. The show may not have the visible toy screws, but it does still have the oddly accurate undercarriages.
So...
5. Energon
4. RID 2001
3. Beast Wars Transmetals (and 2 I guess)
2. Animated
1. Cybertron
Though, now that I think about it, aside from Animated aren't these all really "toy accurate shows"?
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on June 16th, 2019 @ 2:05am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Emerje wrote:I really would have either put them at 5 or gone for something entirely different like Prime or Prime RID (despite their inconsistent toy/cartoon accuracies) or double dipped on the Unicron Trilogy and gone with Energon.
Otherwise the rest of the entries are where I would have expected them.
Emerje
So, say it is your list, what is your actual top 5?
Probably the same as yours minus MP in its spot and the bottom two moved up. With some thought I think Energon should get the 5 spot. The cartoon went CG allowing the character designs to become more toy accurate. It helped that, unlike Armada, it didn't have a toy line with an obstructive gimmick and the Powerlinx gimmick was pretty spot on in the show. The show may not have the visible toy screws, but it does still have the oddly accurate undercarriages.
So...
5. Energon
4. RID 2001
3. Beast Wars Transmetals (and 2 I guess)
2. Animated
1. Cybertron
Though, now that I think about it, aside from Animated aren't these all really "toy accurate shows"?
Emerje
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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 16th, 2019 @ 2:08am CDT
It is so weird when you say that and then note the disparity between the Transmetals/TM 2 and Beast Machines...
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 16th, 2019 @ 2:08am CDT
Emerje wrote:Though, now that I think about it, aside from Animated aren't these all really "toy accurate shows"?
Emerje
It is so weird when you say that and then note the disparity between the Transmetals/TM 2 and Beast Machines...
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Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 16th, 2019 @ 3:11am CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 16th, 2019 @ 3:11am CDT
Oh...yeah. somehow I missed that...william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:So when you put MP on the list you were only referring to MP 2.0?william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Not bad. If I had a list, the only change I would make is replacing the MP line with Prime. Those figures were pretty good, especially the deluxes. I wouldn't include the MP line because like you said, some of the earlier pieces were way off the mark.
For me, Prime was a contender but i judged it worse than MP (Airachnid anyone?). The fact that we never got a show accurate deco for season 1 voyager megs was enough to tip it in the favour of mp 2.0 for me.
Isn't that what I wrote on the list?
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Posted by Burn on June 16th, 2019 @ 3:57am CDT
Posted by Burn on June 16th, 2019 @ 3:57am CDT
Today I finished a small project that's taken up three weekends.
Unpacking and setting up all my Optimus Primes/Convoys.
This spans the entire existence of Transformers.
I was, and still am not, a fan of Animated's aesthetic. But damn did they do some amazing engineering for that line to produce such cartoon accuracy. For that very reason alone I would put it at #1.
Sure, other lines did a good job too, but they never had to contend with the sleek misproportioned style of Animated.
Unpacking and setting up all my Optimus Primes/Convoys.
This spans the entire existence of Transformers.
I was, and still am not, a fan of Animated's aesthetic. But damn did they do some amazing engineering for that line to produce such cartoon accuracy. For that very reason alone I would put it at #1.
Sure, other lines did a good job too, but they never had to contend with the sleek misproportioned style of Animated.
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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 16th, 2019 @ 5:11am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 16th, 2019 @ 5:11am CDT
It took me a while to look beyond the aesthetic of Animated before I gave it a chance. Longer still for me to get my head around the idea of human villains. But after I did, it is probably my favourite Transformers show after Beast Wars. I never owned any of the figures BUT if they had released Animated Omega Supreme, I would have bought it Day One.
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Posted by Beachjezus on June 16th, 2019 @ 8:22am CDT
Posted by Beachjezus on June 16th, 2019 @ 8:22am CDT
Cool list dude.
Ive just recently been letting my kids check out my transmetal beast wars toys. They hold up so well it’s insane. That was probably the most excited I’ve ever been in my life to collect toys. I can remember going into toys r us and picking up my first one (Cheetor). Good memories!
Ive just recently been letting my kids check out my transmetal beast wars toys. They hold up so well it’s insane. That was probably the most excited I’ve ever been in my life to collect toys. I can remember going into toys r us and picking up my first one (Cheetor). Good memories!
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Posted by Stargrave on June 16th, 2019 @ 11:18am CDT
It was just so undeniably entertaining. So well written so much fan service and some of the best voice acting across all the series. I loved Prowl and although I thought Bulkhead could be like a stereotypical character sometimes it was still Bulkhead. Who could transform his own kibble into a chair. Brilliant.
Posted by Stargrave on June 16th, 2019 @ 11:18am CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:It took me a while to look beyond the aesthetic of Animated before I gave it a chance. Longer still for me to get my head around the idea of human villains. But after I did, it is probably my favourite Transformers show after Beast Wars. I never owned any of the figures BUT if they had released Animated Omega Supreme, I would have bought it Day One.
It was just so undeniably entertaining. So well written so much fan service and some of the best voice acting across all the series. I loved Prowl and although I thought Bulkhead could be like a stereotypical character sometimes it was still Bulkhead. Who could transform his own kibble into a chair. Brilliant.
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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 16th, 2019 @ 11:23am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 16th, 2019 @ 11:23am CDT
A competent [non-BW] Megatron and the Decepticons were a credible threat throughout the first and much of the second series. I liked that they played up the fact that the Autobots were rookies and the Decepticons were warriors. That it actually took them a while to win in combat.
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Posted by Solrac333 on June 16th, 2019 @ 11:28am CDT
Posted by Solrac333 on June 16th, 2019 @ 11:28am CDT
Gobots were the most accurate. 
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Posted by Stargrave on June 16th, 2019 @ 11:30am CDT
Posted by Stargrave on June 16th, 2019 @ 11:30am CDT
Yes! Totally - they were all huge and the Autobots were all smaller with primarily melee weapons. That Decepticons having that overall upper hand brought me back to BW like ok we’re heroes oh crap we better figure this out fast.
I was so opposed to the animated style at first despite my love of Animated Batman and Superman but it was Transformers in the most radical new interpretation we’d seen I gave it a chance it hooked me with the great plot and all the fun fan service. I mean George Takei Werid Al Sue Blue all these guest voices and then Elita 1 story ugh drowning in nostalgia! And as a dad of two daughters on Father’s Day I’ll say Sari Sumdak will always have a special place in my heart next to Verity Carlos.
I was so opposed to the animated style at first despite my love of Animated Batman and Superman but it was Transformers in the most radical new interpretation we’d seen I gave it a chance it hooked me with the great plot and all the fun fan service. I mean George Takei Werid Al Sue Blue all these guest voices and then Elita 1 story ugh drowning in nostalgia! And as a dad of two daughters on Father’s Day I’ll say Sari Sumdak will always have a special place in my heart next to Verity Carlos.
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Posted by ScottyP on June 16th, 2019 @ 1:09pm CDT
Posted by ScottyP on June 16th, 2019 @ 1:09pm CDT
Clicked just to make sure Cybertron was #1, and it is. Nicely done!
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Posted by Epsilon Delta on June 16th, 2019 @ 8:04pm CDT
Posted by Epsilon Delta on June 16th, 2019 @ 8:04pm CDT
I pretty much agree with the list. Cybertron is my favorite line. It has everything I like in my Transformers. Electronic lights and sounds (though I do like actual voice clips better), projectiles (especially that don't stick out of the guns comically), and show accuracy. Cybertron just took the toys and animated them really, adding just a little more articulation and paint apps. Cybertron Prime is one of my favorites, especially with all the stuff he does and his combos.
Transmetals were awesome as well, and Transmetal Cheetor happens to be my favorite BW figure for his colors and design, though when my Cobalt Kitty is in robot mode I use a different transformation for his backpack legs than the official one. And looks pretty much just like the show. And Depthcharge is a thing of beauty along with so many others in the line.
When it comes to Animated I'm with Burn on this. Didn't care for the show, didn't like the designs, but my goodness were the toys amazing for nailing the look in both modes accurately. I got the Optimus in a lot I purchased, and while his look isn't my favorite, the engineering makes it a very awesome Transformer toy.
As for Prime, when I first heard about the cartoon and saw the designs I was so hyped. Then I saw the RID toys and was very disappointed. The weapon gimmick was the worst, especially because they didn't lock open. The first editions were much better, but as a whole I don't think I would put them above any on the list. I think the Cyberverse Prime toys would be more show accurate than the main line. I love the Cyberverse Megatron. I'm mostly disappointed that their hands don't morph into weapons like the show. MP line, give me my Prime Prime, wait, Prime Optimus, that doesn't sound right either, uh, give me my Prime squared with morphing hands already
Transmetals were awesome as well, and Transmetal Cheetor happens to be my favorite BW figure for his colors and design, though when my Cobalt Kitty is in robot mode I use a different transformation for his backpack legs than the official one. And looks pretty much just like the show. And Depthcharge is a thing of beauty along with so many others in the line.
When it comes to Animated I'm with Burn on this. Didn't care for the show, didn't like the designs, but my goodness were the toys amazing for nailing the look in both modes accurately. I got the Optimus in a lot I purchased, and while his look isn't my favorite, the engineering makes it a very awesome Transformer toy.
As for Prime, when I first heard about the cartoon and saw the designs I was so hyped. Then I saw the RID toys and was very disappointed. The weapon gimmick was the worst, especially because they didn't lock open. The first editions were much better, but as a whole I don't think I would put them above any on the list. I think the Cyberverse Prime toys would be more show accurate than the main line. I love the Cyberverse Megatron. I'm mostly disappointed that their hands don't morph into weapons like the show. MP line, give me my Prime Prime, wait, Prime Optimus, that doesn't sound right either, uh, give me my Prime squared with morphing hands already
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Posted by RainyDayMan2k on June 16th, 2019 @ 8:12pm CDT
Posted by RainyDayMan2k on June 16th, 2019 @ 8:12pm CDT
Yep, Cybertron's toy-to-screen accuracy was pretty spot-on... except for one change made to the animation model for one particular Decepticon that, to be honest, was really unnecessary. I am, of course, referring to Thunderboobs--err, Thunderbreast--I mean, Thunderblast.
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Posted by Nathaniel Prime on June 16th, 2019 @ 8:24pm CDT
Ah, so Prime² with morphing hands it is, to differentiate between Prime with murderous morphing hands that is Bayformers Prime.
I think the list is great as it is, and I wouldn't change a thing here. The MP line is fine where it is because, frankly, the cartoon wasn't accurate to itself, meaning the toys wouldn't really be accurate anyway, no matter what they did.
Prime, while having great toys, wasn't as accurate to the show as others on this list, kinda like the first BW toys.
I considered Studio Series for this, but then I remember VW Bee and Dropkopter... yeah, not nearly accurate to the source for this list
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on June 16th, 2019 @ 8:24pm CDT
Epsilon Delta wrote:I pretty much agree with the list. Cybertron is my favorite line. It has everything I like in my Transformers. Electronic lights and sounds (though I do like actual voice clips better), projectiles (especially that don't stick out of the guns comically), and show accuracy. Cybertron just took the toys and animated them really, adding just a little more articulation and paint apps. Cybertron Prime is one of my favorites, especially with all the stuff he does and his combos.
Transmetals were awesome as well, and Transmetal Cheetor happens to be my favorite BW figure for his colors and design, though when my Cobalt Kitty is in robot mode I use a different transformation for his backpack legs than the official one. And looks pretty much just like the show. And Depthcharge is a thing of beauty along with so many others in the line.
When it comes to Animated I'm with Burn on this. Didn't care for the show, didn't like the designs, but my goodness were the toys amazing for nailing the look in both modes accurately. I got the Optimus in a lot I purchased, and while his look isn't my favorite, the engineering makes it a very awesome Transformer toy.
As for Prime, when I first heard about the cartoon and saw the designs I was so hyped. Then I saw the RID toys and was very disappointed. The weapon gimmick was the worst, especially because they didn't lock open. The first editions were much better, but as a whole I don't think I would put them above any on the list. I think the Cyberverse Prime toys would be more show accurate than the main line. I love the Cyberverse Megatron. I'm mostly disappointed that their hands don't morph into weapons like the show. MP line, give me my Prime Prime, wait, Prime Optimus, that doesn't sound right either, uh, give me my Prime squared with morphing hands already
Ah, so Prime² with morphing hands it is, to differentiate between Prime with murderous morphing hands that is Bayformers Prime.
I think the list is great as it is, and I wouldn't change a thing here. The MP line is fine where it is because, frankly, the cartoon wasn't accurate to itself, meaning the toys wouldn't really be accurate anyway, no matter what they did.
Prime, while having great toys, wasn't as accurate to the show as others on this list, kinda like the first BW toys.
I considered Studio Series for this, but then I remember VW Bee and Dropkopter... yeah, not nearly accurate to the source for this list
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Posted by Emerje on June 17th, 2019 @ 3:58am CDT
Beast Machines was really Hasbro's fault. Mainframe wanted to keep things going the way they were, but then Hasbro basically cut their animation budget in half when they told them to share it with a then-new Action Man series. Beast Machines was them cheating with kibble-free character designs that don't really transform in the classic sense to simplify the animation models and Hasbro doing toys that looked little like the cartoon since both companies were doing their own interpretations of Draxhall Jump's design concepts at the start. It was a no win situation for fans.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on June 17th, 2019 @ 3:58am CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Emerje wrote:Though, now that I think about it, aside from Animated aren't these all really "toy accurate shows"?
Emerje
It is so weird when you say that and then note the disparity between the Transmetals/TM 2 and Beast Machines...
Beast Machines was really Hasbro's fault. Mainframe wanted to keep things going the way they were, but then Hasbro basically cut their animation budget in half when they told them to share it with a then-new Action Man series. Beast Machines was them cheating with kibble-free character designs that don't really transform in the classic sense to simplify the animation models and Hasbro doing toys that looked little like the cartoon since both companies were doing their own interpretations of Draxhall Jump's design concepts at the start. It was a no win situation for fans.
Emerje
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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 17th, 2019 @ 10:02am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 17th, 2019 @ 10:02am CDT
Indeed. That said, in hindsight, it would have probably worked out better if they had just made Beast Machines an animated cartoon, instead of CG.
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Posted by Wh33l Jck on June 17th, 2019 @ 10:53am CDT
Posted by Wh33l Jck on June 17th, 2019 @ 10:53am CDT
Transformers Prime? Some aren't super accurate, but some are pretty close.
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 17th, 2019 @ 7:45pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 17th, 2019 @ 7:45pm CDT
I'm still really impressed with how close they managed to get Animated the show to its toys. Cybertron deserved #1 but I'm glad Animated made the list, it definitely worked some magic to make the toys show accurate!
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Posted by Stargrave on June 17th, 2019 @ 8:10pm CDT
Beast Machines was really Hasbro's fault. Mainframe wanted to keep things going the way they were, but then Hasbro basically cut their animation budget in half when they told them to share it with a then-new Action Man series. Beast Machines was them cheating with kibble-free character designs that don't really transform in the classic sense to simplify the animation models and Hasbro doing toys that looked little like the cartoon since both companies were doing their own interpretations of Draxhall Jump's design concepts at the start. It was a no win situation for fans.
Well at least the gambit paid off and Action Man went on to be far more popular with a succession of movies, animated series, and shrinky dinks
Wait....whoah wait a sec, are you talking about the "amazing" show with spliced in Universal Studios action sideshow scenes where the live actor had the big 'ol fake looking scar? Or was that earlier?
Wow I've not thought of that in ages. Friends from across the pond (waited my whole life to say that) help me out here I'm an Action Ham more than an Action Man. Is that the one I'm thinking of?
Posted by Stargrave on June 17th, 2019 @ 8:10pm CDT
Emerje wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Emerje wrote:Though, now that I think about it, aside from Animated aren't these all really "toy accurate shows"?
Emerje
It is so weird when you say that and then note the disparity between the Transmetals/TM 2 and Beast Machines...
Beast Machines was really Hasbro's fault. Mainframe wanted to keep things going the way they were, but then Hasbro basically cut their animation budget in half when they told them to share it with a then-new Action Man series. Beast Machines was them cheating with kibble-free character designs that don't really transform in the classic sense to simplify the animation models and Hasbro doing toys that looked little like the cartoon since both companies were doing their own interpretations of Draxhall Jump's design concepts at the start. It was a no win situation for fans.
Well at least the gambit paid off and Action Man went on to be far more popular with a succession of movies, animated series, and shrinky dinks
Wait....whoah wait a sec, are you talking about the "amazing" show with spliced in Universal Studios action sideshow scenes where the live actor had the big 'ol fake looking scar? Or was that earlier?
Wow I've not thought of that in ages. Friends from across the pond (waited my whole life to say that) help me out here I'm an Action Ham more than an Action Man. Is that the one I'm thinking of?
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Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on June 19th, 2019 @ 5:14pm CDT
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on June 19th, 2019 @ 5:14pm CDT
That list is spot-on, William. It's quite accurate, like the toylines it lists. 
But yeah. I can't really think of any line to either add, or another order. Bravo!
But yeah. I can't really think of any line to either add, or another order. Bravo!
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Posted by TulioDude on June 19th, 2019 @ 11:42pm CDT
I don't doubt you,but could you give a source?This is the first time I'm hearing this.
Posted by TulioDude on June 19th, 2019 @ 11:42pm CDT
Emerje wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Emerje wrote:Though, now that I think about it, aside from Animated aren't these all really "toy accurate shows"?
Emerje
It is so weird when you say that and then note the disparity between the Transmetals/TM 2 and Beast Machines...
Beast Machines was really Hasbro's fault. Mainframe wanted to keep things going the way they were, but then Hasbro basically cut their animation budget in half when they told them to share it with a then-new Action Man series. Beast Machines was them cheating with kibble-free character designs that don't really transform in the classic sense to simplify the animation models and Hasbro doing toys that looked little like the cartoon since both companies were doing their own interpretations of Draxhall Jump's design concepts at the start. It was a no win situation for fans.
Emerje
I don't doubt you,but could you give a source?This is the first time I'm hearing this.
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Posted by william-james88 on June 19th, 2019 @ 11:47pm CDT
Could you also show us some of those draxall jump designs? On the internet, all I can find is their designs for the dropped line after that (along with a cheetor).
Posted by william-james88 on June 19th, 2019 @ 11:47pm CDT
TulioDude wrote:Emerje wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Emerje wrote:Though, now that I think about it, aside from Animated aren't these all really "toy accurate shows"?
Emerje
It is so weird when you say that and then note the disparity between the Transmetals/TM 2 and Beast Machines...
Beast Machines was really Hasbro's fault. Mainframe wanted to keep things going the way they were, but then Hasbro basically cut their animation budget in half when they told them to share it with a then-new Action Man series. Beast Machines was them cheating with kibble-free character designs that don't really transform in the classic sense to simplify the animation models and Hasbro doing toys that looked little like the cartoon since both companies were doing their own interpretations of Draxhall Jump's design concepts at the start. It was a no win situation for fans.
Emerje
I don't doubt you,but could you give a source?This is the first time I'm hearing this.
Could you also show us some of those draxall jump designs? On the internet, all I can find is their designs for the dropped line after that (along with a cheetor).
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Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on June 24th, 2019 @ 7:30am CDT
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on June 24th, 2019 @ 7:30am CDT
I just had a thought. Has there been a 'Bottom Five Least Accurate Transformers Toylines' list done?
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 24th, 2019 @ 8:26am CDT
For such a list to be valid each lines should have an official cartoon attached to it. Because it would be too easy to include special lines like the Xovers, the "running shoes", and the like.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 24th, 2019 @ 8:26am CDT
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:I just had a thought. Has there been a 'Bottom Five Least Accurate Transformers Toylines' list done?
For such a list to be valid each lines should have an official cartoon attached to it. Because it would be too easy to include special lines like the Xovers, the "running shoes", and the like.
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Posted by Nathaniel Prime on June 24th, 2019 @ 8:34am CDT
Not yet, but I can imagine G1 being on the list.
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on June 24th, 2019 @ 8:34am CDT
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:I just had a thought. Has there been a 'Bottom Five Least Accurate Transformers Toylines' list done?
Not yet, but I can imagine G1 being on the list.
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 24th, 2019 @ 9:12am CDT
I call it #1 for sure. Just with Ironhide, Megatron, and Reflector alone.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 24th, 2019 @ 9:12am CDT
Nathaniel Prime wrote:RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:I just had a thought. Has there been a 'Bottom Five Least Accurate Transformers Toylines' list done?
Not yet, but I can imagine G1 being on the list.
I call it #1 for sure. Just with Ironhide, Megatron, and Reflector alone.
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Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on June 24th, 2019 @ 9:15am CDT
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on June 24th, 2019 @ 9:15am CDT
G1... it depends on whether you're willing to make allowances for the artistic license dumbing-down. And of course, G1 has cases where IMO that license expires and it's fair to call the show inaccurate: Superion and the Aerialbots' heads (which seem to have been referenced from dark grainy catalog photos, hence Superion ending up with a mouthplate and the individual Aerialbots' heads being a tad off), everything about the Combaticons but their heads, Astrotrain's chest, Menasor almost every time he's drawn, and the Stunticon limbs' made-up heads.
That being said, there are still some color and design discrepancies that allowances don't quite cover (such as the shoulder migration and addition of heads to Ratchet and Ironhide - and maybe the Minibot head redesigns - for the latter, and every movie character except Ultra Magnus and Wreck-Gar for the former).
That being said, there are still some color and design discrepancies that allowances don't quite cover (such as the shoulder migration and addition of heads to Ratchet and Ironhide - and maybe the Minibot head redesigns - for the latter, and every movie character except Ultra Magnus and Wreck-Gar for the former).
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Posted by Nathaniel Prime on June 24th, 2019 @ 9:17am CDT
Which reminds me, who are the most accurate G1 toys? I think it's mostly the carbots, because Sideswipe, Prowl and Jazz pretty much looked like that in the show. Inferno as well maybe?
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on June 24th, 2019 @ 9:17am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Nathaniel Prime wrote:RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:I just had a thought. Has there been a 'Bottom Five Least Accurate Transformers Toylines' list done?
Not yet, but I can imagine G1 being on the list.
I call it #1 for sure. Just with Ironhide, Megatron, and Reflector alone.
Which reminds me, who are the most accurate G1 toys? I think it's mostly the carbots, because Sideswipe, Prowl and Jazz pretty much looked like that in the show. Inferno as well maybe?
